• [Overlord DVD] Disney Ready to Dump Doctor Who? Terrible Ratings Making

    From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 7 04:30:48 2025
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    The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the history of the series across multiple metrics, which is not what Disney bargained for. Here's what a long-time source has told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on Disney Plus. #disney #doctorwho #disneyplus

    https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Fri Feb 7 14:52:24 2025
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    Ubiquitous wrote:

    The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the
    history of the series across multiple metrics, which is not
    what Disney bargained for. Here's what a long-time source has
    told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on Disney Plus.
    #disney #doctorwho #disneyplus

    https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the latest
    DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
    which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between the
    Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy with
    what they have been getting from their partnership with the BBC
    then there won't be a second order... the deal will have been
    completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on. I assume it
    will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that will be
    decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in the same
    ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to
    move on...

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to petertrei@gmail.com on Fri Feb 7 16:33:08 2025
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    In article <vo55g7$3hjkl$2@dont-email.me>,
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2/7/2025 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the history of the >> series across multiple metrics, which is not what Disney bargained for. Here's
    what a long-time source has told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on
    Disney Plus. #disney #doctorwho #disneyplus

    https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg

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    ^ Isn't that getting a little tired. He went.

    pt

    Brandon is gone.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to weberm@polaris.net on Fri Feb 7 16:32:51 2025
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    In article <vo50v1$3g5ie$8@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the history of the >series across multiple metrics, which is not what Disney bargained for. Here's >what a long-time source has told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on >Disney Plus. #disney #doctorwho #disneyplus

    https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg

    --
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    Looks like wrong partner.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Fri Feb 7 16:36:27 2025
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    In article <xn0p1ru6c57tsij005@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the
    history of the series across multiple metrics, which is not
    what Disney bargained for. Here's what a long-time source has
    told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on Disney Plus.
    #disney #doctorwho #disneyplus

    https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the latest
    DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
    which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between the
    Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy with
    what they have been getting from their partnership with the BBC
    then there won't be a second order... the deal will have been
    completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on. I assume it
    will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that will be
    decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in the same
    ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to
    move on...

    a new partner needed?
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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Fri Feb 7 17:00:35 2025
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    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0p1ru6c57tsij005@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
    latest DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26
    episodes", which will be completed once the spin-off "The
    War Between the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney
    are not happy with what they have been getting from their
    partnership with the BBC then there won't be a second
    order... the deal will have been completed and both Disney
    and the BBC can move on. I assume it will be the ratings for
    S2/S15 this spring that will be decisive, but if the
    ratings/viewing figures are in the same ball-park as they
    were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to move on...

    a new partner needed?

    Possibly.

    But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
    "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes. There's
    no guarantee that another streaming service would be be
    interested in the show.

    Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
    break? It wouldn't be the first time...

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Fri Feb 7 17:37:38 2025
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <vo55g7$3hjkl$2@dont-email.me>,
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2/7/2025 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

    ^ Isn't that getting a little tired. He went.

    pt

    Brandon is gone.

    The USA have gone from having a senile old man that could hardly
    walk or talk properly as its President, to a crazy old guy with
    a suntan who sounds like he wants to take over the world.

    Democracy, don't yer just love it?!

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Fri Feb 7 17:46:40 2025
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    In article <xn0p1rxmz5cepg5002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0p1ru6c57tsij005@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
    latest DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26
    episodes", which will be completed once the spin-off "The
    War Between the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney
    are not happy with what they have been getting from their
    partnership with the BBC then there won't be a second
    order... the deal will have been completed and both Disney
    and the BBC can move on. I assume it will be the ratings for
    S2/S15 this spring that will be decisive, but if the
    ratings/viewing figures are in the same ball-park as they
    were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to move on...

    a new partner needed?

    Possibly.

    But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
    "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes. There's
    no guarantee that another streaming service would be be
    interested in the show.

    Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
    break? It wouldn't be the first time...

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Fri Feb 7 17:48:11 2025
    In article <kqCdnX3sU8302Dv6nZ2dnZfqnPQAAAAA@giganews.com>,
    % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
    Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <vo55g7$3hjkl$2@dont-email.me>,
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2/7/2025 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

    ^ Isn't that getting a little tired. He went.

    pt

    Brandon is gone.

    The USA have gone from having a senile old man that could hardly
    walk or talk properly as its President, to a crazy old guy with
    a suntan who sounds like he wants to take over the world.

    Democracy, don't yer just love it?!

    yea

    Indeed.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Fri Feb 7 17:48:02 2025
    In article <xn0p1ryk35dqlup004@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <vo55g7$3hjkl$2@dont-email.me>,
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2/7/2025 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

    ^ Isn't that getting a little tired. He went.

    pt

    Brandon is gone.

    The USA have gone from having a senile old man that could hardly
    walk or talk properly as its President, to a crazy old guy with
    a suntan who sounds like he wants to take over the world.

    Democracy, don't yer just love it?!


    I prefer Constitutional morchy to Republic!
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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sat Feb 8 10:26:57 2025
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    On 2025-02-07 14:52:24 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the
    history of the series across multiple metrics, which is not
    what Disney bargained for. Here's what a long-time source has
    told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on Disney Plus.
    #disney #doctorwho #disneyplus

    https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the latest
    DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
    which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between the
    Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy with
    what they have been getting from their partnership with the BBC
    then there won't be a second order... the deal will have been
    completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on. I assume it
    will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that will be
    decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in the same
    ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to
    move on...

    A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the pre-Disney
    seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who because they stupidly
    believed it would raise their number of subscribers, which it wasn't
    ever going to do and anybody with more than one braincell could have
    told them the 'ratings' would drop dramatically. The only legal way for international viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently is to subscribe
    to Disney+, which most people simply weren't going to bother doing,
    especially for just one show and continual prices rises (both for
    Disney+ and general retail prices for everything).

    Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't really a good
    idea to begin with, let alone numerous services all with their own
    'exclusive' content. The old cable and satelitte TV services have been struggling for decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sat Feb 8 01:15:48 2025
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    In article <JhmcndDDi9zqwTv6nZ2dnZfqn_cAAAAA@giganews.com>,
    % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0p1rxmz5cepg5002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0p1ru6c57tsij005@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
    latest DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26
    episodes", which will be completed once the spin-off "The
    War Between the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney
    are not happy with what they have been getting from their
    partnership with the BBC then there won't be a second
    order... the deal will have been completed and both Disney
    and the BBC can move on. I assume it will be the ratings for
    S2/S15 this spring that will be decisive, but if the
    ratings/viewing figures are in the same ball-park as they
    were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to move on...

    a new partner needed?

    Possibly.

    But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
    "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes. There's
    no guarantee that another streaming service would be be
    interested in the show.

    Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
    break? It wouldn't be the first time...

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    i hope they don't put hyacinth back on

    The Timeless Child must be Hyacinth.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sat Feb 8 01:16:19 2025
    In article <JhmcndPDi9w-wTv6nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com>,
    % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0p1ryk35dqlup004@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <vo55g7$3hjkl$2@dont-email.me>,
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2/7/2025 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

    ^ Isn't that getting a little tired. He went.

    pt

    Brandon is gone.

    The USA have gone from having a senile old man that could hardly
    walk or talk properly as its President, to a crazy old guy with
    a suntan who sounds like he wants to take over the world.

    Democracy, don't yer just love it?!


    I prefer Constitutional morchy to Republic!

    i like you do what you do and i'll do what i do


    As long as Trump dies as the last President of the conquered USA!
    --
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to YourName@YourISP.com on Sat Feb 8 01:16:55 2025
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    In article <vo5tr1$3lv3f$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-07 14:52:24 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the
    history of the series across multiple metrics, which is not
    what Disney bargained for. Here's what a long-time source has
    told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on Disney Plus.
    #disney #doctorwho #disneyplus

    https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the latest
    DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
    which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between the
    Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy with
    what they have been getting from their partnership with the BBC
    then there won't be a second order... the deal will have been
    completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on. I assume it
    will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that will be
    decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in the same
    ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to
    move on...

    A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the pre-Disney >seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who because they stupidly >believed it would raise their number of subscribers, which it wasn't
    ever going to do and anybody with more than one braincell could have
    told them the 'ratings' would drop dramatically. The only legal way for >international viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently is to subscribe
    to Disney+, which most people simply weren't going to bother doing, >especially for just one show and continual prices rises (both for
    Disney+ and general retail prices for everything).

    Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't really a good
    idea to begin with, let alone numerous services all with their own >'exclusive' content. The old cable and satelitte TV services have been >struggling for decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.




    So Disney+ is not as popular as hoped.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sat Feb 8 06:59:09 2025
    In article <bMicnSi5JcZMKTv6nZ2dnZfqnPoAAAAA@giganews.com>,
    % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <JhmcndPDi9w-wTv6nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com>,
    % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0p1ryk35dqlup004@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <vo55g7$3hjkl$2@dont-email.me>,
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2/7/2025 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

    ^ Isn't that getting a little tired. He went.

    pt

    Brandon is gone.

    The USA have gone from having a senile old man that could hardly
    walk or talk properly as its President, to a crazy old guy with
    a suntan who sounds like he wants to take over the world.

    Democracy, don't yer just love it?!


    I prefer Constitutional morchy to Republic!

    i like you do what you do and i'll do what i do


    As long as Trump dies as the last President of the conquered USA!

    i can't reply to that or ,
    i wouldn't be doing what i do

    Oh. well.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sat Feb 8 15:30:19 2025
    In article <ypmdnbfcfYjkyzr6nZ2dnZfqnPsAAAAA@giganews.com>,
    % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <bMicnSi5JcZMKTv6nZ2dnZfqnPoAAAAA@giganews.com>,
    % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <JhmcndPDi9w-wTv6nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com>,
    % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0p1ryk35dqlup004@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <vo55g7$3hjkl$2@dont-email.me>,
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2/7/2025 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

    ^ Isn't that getting a little tired. He went.

    pt

    Brandon is gone.

    The USA have gone from having a senile old man that could hardly >>>>>>> walk or talk properly as its President, to a crazy old guy with
    a suntan who sounds like he wants to take over the world.

    Democracy, don't yer just love it?!


    I prefer Constitutional morchy to Republic!

    i like you do what you do and i'll do what i do


    As long as Trump dies as the last President of the conquered USA!

    i can't reply to that or ,
    i wouldn't be doing what i do

    Oh. well.

    fine thanks

    Down with the Republics!
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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Sat Feb 8 15:41:29 2025
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    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <vo5tr1$3lv3f$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the
    pre-Disney seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who
    because they stupidly believed it would raise their number
    of subscribers, which it wasn't ever going to do and anybody
    with more than one braincell could have told them the
    'ratings' would drop dramatically. The only legal way for
    international viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently is to
    subscribe to Disney+, which most people simply weren't going
    to bother doing, especially for just one show and continual
    prices rises (both for Disney+ and general retail prices for
    everything).

    Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't
    really a good idea to begin with, let alone numerous
    services all with their own 'exclusive' content. The old
    cable and satelitte TV services have been struggling for
    decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.

    So Disney+ is not as popular as hoped.

    Or more accurately...

    Doctor Who is not as popular as Disney hoped!

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sat Feb 8 15:50:57 2025
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    In article <xn0p1ta1wzdpq001@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <vo5tr1$3lv3f$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the
    pre-Disney seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who
    because they stupidly believed it would raise their number
    of subscribers, which it wasn't ever going to do and anybody
    with more than one braincell could have told them the
    'ratings' would drop dramatically. The only legal way for
    international viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently is to
    subscribe to Disney+, which most people simply weren't going
    to bother doing, especially for just one show and continual
    prices rises (both for Disney+ and general retail prices for
    everything).

    Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't
    really a good idea to begin with, let alone numerous
    services all with their own 'exclusive' content. The old
    cable and satelitte TV services have been struggling for
    decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.

    So Disney+ is not as popular as hoped.

    Or more accurately...

    Doctor Who is not as popular as Disney hoped!

    Draw not popular.
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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Your Name on Sat Feb 8 16:30:55 2025
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    Your Name wrote:

    A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the
    pre-Disney seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who
    because they stupidly believed it would raise their number of
    subscribers, which it wasn't ever going to do and anybody with
    more than one braincell could have told them the 'ratings'
    would drop dramatically. The only legal way for international
    viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently is to subscribe to
    Disney+, which most people simply weren't going to bother
    doing, especially for just one show and continual prices rises
    (both for Disney+ and general retail prices for everything).

    I don't think the directors of these streaming services live in
    the real world. I would never have thought anyone around the
    world would subscribe to Disney+ JUST for "Doctor Who"... it's
    not that kind of essential show. Maybe when the Tenth Doctor and
    Rose/Martha were around it might have happened to some degree,
    as that was a popular time for the show. But Disney were being
    delusional if they thought in 2023 that "Doctor Who" would be
    the show to hook the masses in to their shiny new streaming
    service.

    Now, I did think "Doctor Who" post 2023 would be more popular
    than it has been... but even as a fan, and had I needed to, I
    still wouldn't have subscribed to Disney+ just to watch "Doctor
    Who" at the prices they are charging.

    Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't
    really a good idea to begin with, let alone numerous services
    all with their own 'exclusive' content. The old cable and
    satelitte TV services have been struggling for decades to
    retain and grow subscriber numbers.

    There is a use for streaming services but I doubt anyone
    subscribes to any of them for just one show. When they were a
    bit cheaper, and during covid, they played their part in
    entertaining us, but now with the continual price rises, and
    adverts, people will be more choosy in which ones they
    subscribe to. So whenever I see reports that subscriber numbers
    are down on ______ service I just think, "What did you expect?"

    Nobody can subscribe to everything so somebody is going to
    suffer.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sat Feb 8 17:26:38 2025
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.fandom, rec.arts.sf.tv

    In article <xn0p1tbc82p8v9000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Your Name wrote:

    A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the
    pre-Disney seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who
    because they stupidly believed it would raise their number of
    subscribers, which it wasn't ever going to do and anybody with
    more than one braincell could have told them the 'ratings'
    would drop dramatically. The only legal way for international
    viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently is to subscribe to
    Disney+, which most people simply weren't going to bother
    doing, especially for just one show and continual prices rises
    (both for Disney+ and general retail prices for everything).

    I don't think the directors of these streaming services live in
    the real world. I would never have thought anyone around the
    world would subscribe to Disney+ JUST for "Doctor Who"... it's
    not that kind of essential show. Maybe when the Tenth Doctor and
    Rose/Martha were around it might have happened to some degree,
    as that was a popular time for the show. But Disney were being
    delusional if they thought in 2023 that "Doctor Who" would be
    the show to hook the masses in to their shiny new streaming
    service.

    Now, I did think "Doctor Who" post 2023 would be more popular
    than it has been... but even as a fan, and had I needed to, I
    still wouldn't have subscribed to Disney+ just to watch "Doctor
    Who" at the prices they are charging.

    Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't
    really a good idea to begin with, let alone numerous services
    all with their own 'exclusive' content. The old cable and
    satelitte TV services have been struggling for decades to
    retain and grow subscriber numbers.

    There is a use for streaming services but I doubt anyone
    subscribes to any of them for just one show. When they were a
    bit cheaper, and during covid, they played their part in
    entertaining us, but now with the continual price rises, and
    adverts, people will be more choosy in which ones they
    subscribe to. So whenever I see reports that subscriber numbers
    are down on ______ service I just think, "What did you expect?"

    Nobody can subscribe to everything so somebody is going to
    suffer.

    DW is suffering beacuse of an antiDisney sentiment.
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  • From The True Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sat Feb 8 18:30:00 2025
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    On 07/02/2025 17:00, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0p1ru6c57tsij005@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
    latest DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26
    episodes", which will be completed once the spin-off "The
    War Between the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney
    are not happy with what they have been getting from their
    partnership with the BBC then there won't be a second
    order... the deal will have been completed and both Disney
    and the BBC can move on. I assume it will be the ratings for
    S2/S15 this spring that will be decisive, but if the
    ratings/viewing figures are in the same ball-park as they
    were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to move on...

    a new partner needed?

    Possibly.

    But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
    "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes. There's
    no guarantee that another streaming service would be be
    interested in the show.

    Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
    break? It wouldn't be the first time...

    The BBC have killed off the entire franchise by hiring perverts to run
    the show who despite 70% of the audience being male and 97% being
    heterosexual turned the Doctor into an autistic lesbian woman and then
    into an effeminate promiscuous homosexual, then filled the show with transvestites in order to sexually groom children. But even that does
    not compare to the irreparable damage done the Timeless Child monster
    which has destroyed William Hartnell's entire legacy. Autism, women, homosexuals, and transvestites can all be tolerated. The Timeless Child
    monster cannot!

    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
    stands for." -William Shatner

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  • From The True Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sat Feb 8 18:19:03 2025
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    On 07/02/2025 14:52, Blueshirt wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the
    history of the series across multiple metrics, which is not
    what Disney bargained for. Here's what a long-time source has
    told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on Disney Plus.
    #disney #doctorwho #disneyplus

    https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the latest

    Former Doctor Who executive producer. Doctor Who ended in 2017.

    DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
    which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between the
    Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy with
    what they have been getting from their partnership with the BBC
    then there won't be a second order... the deal will have been
    completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on. I assume it
    will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that will be
    decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in the same
    ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to
    move on...

    With the woke degeneracy set do be worse than ever due to the woke
    racist and sexist bigot RTD only hiring people based on their race,
    gender, sexuality, and gender identity, does anyone seriously think the writing, acting, and production will improve?

    Kick DEI out of entertainment. Discrimination, Exclusion, and Inequity
    based on race, gender, sexuality, gender identity, and disability does
    not belong in the civilized world. Bring back the meritocracy.


    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
    stands for." -William Shatner

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Sat Feb 8 19:13:04 2025
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    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0p1tbc82p8v9000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Your Name wrote:

    A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the
    pre-Disney seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who
    because they stupidly believed it would raise their number
    of subscribers, which it wasn't ever going to do and
    anybody with more than one braincell could have told them
    the 'ratings' would drop dramatically. The only legal way
    for international viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently
    is to subscribe to Disney+, which most people simply
    weren't going to bother doing, especially for just one show
    and continual prices rises (both for Disney+ and general
    retail prices for everything).

    I don't think the directors of these streaming services live
    in the real world. I would never have thought anyone around
    the world would subscribe to Disney+ JUST for "Doctor
    Who"... it's not that kind of essential show. Maybe when the
    Tenth Doctor and Rose/Martha were around it might have
    happened to some degree, as that was a popular time for the
    show. But Disney were being delusional if they thought in
    2023 that "Doctor Who" would be the show to hook the masses
    in to their shiny new streaming service.

    Now, I did think "Doctor Who" post 2023 would be more popular
    than it has been... but even as a fan, and had I needed to, I
    still wouldn't have subscribed to Disney+ just to watch
    "Doctor Who" at the prices they are charging.

    Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't
    really a good idea to begin with, let alone numerous
    services all with their own 'exclusive' content. The old
    cable and satelitte TV services have been struggling for
    decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.

    There is a use for streaming services but I doubt anyone
    subscribes to any of them for just one show. When they were a
    bit cheaper, and during covid, they played their part in
    entertaining us, but now with the continual price rises, and
    adverts, people will be more choosy in which ones they
    subscribe to. So whenever I see reports that subscriber
    numbers are down on ______ service I just think, "What did
    you expect?"

    Nobody can subscribe to everything so somebody is going to
    suffer.

    DW is suffering beacuse of an antiDisney sentiment.

    "Doctor Who" was suffering before Disney came along, if that's
    the word you want to use to describe fandom unhappiness and poor
    ratings. Disney had nothing to do with the 13th Doctor's era,
    which was over before they came along. Plus, the ratings that
    the show has been getting in the UK (BBC1/iPlayer) since the
    15th Doctor arrived on the scene have nothing whatsoever to do
    with Disney either, as "Doctor Who" is not on Disney+ in the UK
    & Ireland. So maybe you need to start seeing the bigger picture.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The True Doctor on Sat Feb 8 19:19:20 2025
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    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 07/02/2025 14:52, Blueshirt wrote:

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
    latest

    Former Doctor Who executive producer.

    I'm sure the day will come when that is accurate!

    DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
    which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between
    the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy
    with what they have been getting from their partnership with
    the BBC then there won't be a second order... the deal will
    have been completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on.
    I assume it will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that
    will be decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in
    the same ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would
    expect Disney to move on...

    With the woke degeneracy set do be worse than ever due to the
    woke racist and sexist bigot RTD only hiring people based on
    their race, gender, sexuality, and gender identity, does
    anyone seriously think the writing, acting, and production
    will improve?

    I'd like to think that RTD would learn from the unimpressive
    ratings and generally poor feedback from last season and try to
    make S2/S15 a bit more entertaining... S1/S14 had some good
    moments, but it had a lot of weak points too.

    Kick DEI out of entertainment. Discrimination, Exclusion, and
    Inequity based on race, gender, sexuality, gender identity,
    and disability does not belong in the civilized world. Bring
    back the meritocracy.

    Is that from your manifesto?

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The True Doctor on Sat Feb 8 19:28:00 2025
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.sf.fandom

    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 07/02/2025 17:00, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    a new partner needed?

    Possibly.

    But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
    "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes.
    There's no guarantee that another streaming service would be
    be interested in the show.

    Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
    break? It wouldn't be the first time...

    The BBC have killed off the entire franchise by hiring
    perverts to run the show who despite 70% of the audience being
    male and 97% being heterosexual turned the Doctor into an
    autistic lesbian woman and then into an effeminate promiscuous
    homosexual, then filled the show with transvestites in order
    to sexually groom children. But even that does not compare to
    the irreparable damage done the Timeless Child monster which
    has destroyed William Hartnell's entire legacy.

    I wouldn't say the BBC have killed off the franchise just yet...
    but by the end of the year they might well have done!

    S2/S15 could be the make or break season for the show...

    Autism, women, homosexuals, and transvestites can all be
    tolerated.

    That's very generous of you... I never had you down as liberal
    minded.

    The Timeless Child monster cannot!

    Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but there
    will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child era next
    season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of guy than a
    retconner!

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  • From Tim Merrigan@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Sat Feb 8 11:30:10 2025
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    On 2/7/2025 5:16 PM, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <vo5tr1$3lv3f$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-07 14:52:24 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the
    history of the series across multiple metrics, which is not
    what Disney bargained for. Here's what a long-time source has
    told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on Disney Plus.
    #disney #doctorwho #disneyplus

    https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the latest
    DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
    which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between the
    Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy with
    what they have been getting from their partnership with the BBC
    then there won't be a second order... the deal will have been
    completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on. I assume it
    will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that will be
    decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in the same
    ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to
    move on...

    A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the pre-Disney
    seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who because they stupidly
    believed it would raise their number of subscribers, which it wasn't
    ever going to do and anybody with more than one braincell could have
    told them the 'ratings' would drop dramatically. The only legal way for
    international viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently is to subscribe
    to Disney+, which most people simply weren't going to bother doing,
    especially for just one show and continual prices rises (both for
    Disney+ and general retail prices for everything).

    Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't really a good
    idea to begin with, let alone numerous services all with their own
    'exclusive' content. The old cable and satelitte TV services have been
    struggling for decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.




    So Disney+ is not as popular as hoped.

    Streaming, and other "beamed" services" are not as popular as
    expected/hoped. The way to go is ad paid broadcast, that anyone with a receiver can get.

    --

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    Tim Merrigan

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun Feb 9 10:06:01 2025
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.fandom, rec.arts.sf.tv

    On 2025-02-08 15:41:29 +0000, Blueshirt said:

    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <vo5tr1$3lv3f$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the
    pre-Disney seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who
    because they stupidly believed it would raise their number
    of subscribers, which it wasn't ever going to do and anybody
    with more than one braincell could have told them the
    'ratings' would drop dramatically. The only legal way for
    international viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently is to
    subscribe to Disney+, which most people simply weren't going
    to bother doing, especially for just one show and continual
    prices rises (both for Disney+ and general retail prices for
    everything).

    Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't
    really a good idea to begin with, let alone numerous
    services all with their own 'exclusive' content. The old
    cable and satelitte TV services have been struggling for
    decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.

    So Disney+ is not as popular as hoped.

    Or more accurately...

    Doctor Who is not as popular as Disney hoped!

    Even more accurately, streaming services are, unsurprisingly, not as
    popular as the greedy fools in management thought they were going to be
    ... mainly because there are simply far too many streaming services.

    They can't get the amount of subscribers to maintain the services, so
    now most are shifting towards advertising, which will simply push even
    more people to stop bothering to subscribe. Some service are also
    looking at sharing their "exclusive" content, but it's just far too
    late. The number of streaming service will continue to dwindle until
    only those with very deep pockets remain and only for as long as those
    pockets can sustain the loses via the profits from the conmpanys' other businesses (the theme parks for Disney, but even those are struggling
    with rising costs).

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun Feb 9 10:16:59 2025
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.fandom, rec.arts.sf.tv

    On 2025-02-08 19:13:04 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0p1tbc82p8v9000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Your Name wrote:

    A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the
    pre-Disney seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who
    because they stupidly believed it would raise their number
    of subscribers, which it wasn't ever going to do and
    anybody with more than one braincell could have told them
    the 'ratings' would drop dramatically. The only legal way
    for international viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently
    is to subscribe to Disney+, which most people simply
    weren't going to bother doing, especially for just one show
    and continual prices rises (both for Disney+ and general
    retail prices for everything).

    I don't think the directors of these streaming services live
    in the real world. I would never have thought anyone around
    the world would subscribe to Disney+ JUST for "Doctor
    Who"... it's not that kind of essential show. Maybe when the
    Tenth Doctor and Rose/Martha were around it might have
    happened to some degree, as that was a popular time for the
    show. But Disney were being delusional if they thought in
    2023 that "Doctor Who" would be the show to hook the masses
    in to their shiny new streaming service.

    Now, I did think "Doctor Who" post 2023 would be more popular
    than it has been... but even as a fan, and had I needed to, I
    still wouldn't have subscribed to Disney+ just to watch
    "Doctor Who" at the prices they are charging.

    Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't
    really a good idea to begin with, let alone numerous
    services all with their own 'exclusive' content. The old
    cable and satelitte TV services have been struggling for
    decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.

    There is a use for streaming services but I doubt anyone
    subscribes to any of them for just one show. When they were a
    bit cheaper, and during covid, they played their part in
    entertaining us, but now with the continual price rises, and
    adverts, people will be more choosy in which ones they
    subscribe to. So whenever I see reports that subscriber
    numbers are down on ______ service I just think, "What did
    you expect?"

    Nobody can subscribe to everything so somebody is going to
    suffer.

    DW is suffering beacuse of an antiDisney sentiment.

    "Doctor Who" was suffering before Disney came along, if that's
    the word you want to use to describe fandom unhappiness and poor
    ratings. Disney had nothing to do with the 13th Doctor's era,
    which was over before they came along. Plus, the ratings that
    the show has been getting in the UK (BBC1/iPlayer) since the
    15th Doctor arrived on the scene have nothing whatsoever to do
    with Disney either, as "Doctor Who" is not on Disney+ in the UK
    & Ireland. So maybe you need to start seeing the bigger picture.

    You can at least partly thank the blantant Politically Correctness
    idiocy to appease BBC quota box ticking for that. I know of quite a few
    people who used to be big fans of Doctor Who, but the stupidity of
    gender and ethnicity swapping characaters meant none of them watched
    when it was still on free broadcast TV, let alone when it required a
    Disney+ subscription.

    The Disney+ shift has simply added more nails in the coffin lid for international viewers. I wouldn't be surprised if international DVD
    sales figures have risen *slightly* since that happened, and of course
    DVD sales likely don't count in the almighty "ratings". (The numbers
    watching via the nuaghty web have likely also risen slightly, but then
    there's no measure of that.)

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Tim Merrigan on Sun Feb 9 10:28:50 2025
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.fandom, rec.arts.sf.tv

    On 2025-02-08 19:30:10 +0000, Tim Merrigan said:
    On 2/7/2025 5:16 PM, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <vo5tr1$3lv3f$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-07 14:52:24 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the
    history of the series across multiple metrics, which is not
    what Disney bargained for. Here's what a long-time source has
    told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on Disney Plus.
    #disney #doctorwho #disneyplus

    https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the latest
    DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
    which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between the
    Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy with
    what they have been getting from their partnership with the BBC
    then there won't be a second order... the deal will have been
    completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on. I assume it
    will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that will be
    decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in the same
    ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to
    move on...

    A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the pre-Disney
    seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who because they stupidly
    believed it would raise their number of subscribers, which it wasn't
    ever going to do and anybody with more than one braincell could have
    told them the 'ratings' would drop dramatically. The only legal way for
    international viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently is to subscribe
    to Disney+, which most people simply weren't going to bother doing,
    especially for just one show and continual prices rises (both for
    Disney+ and general retail prices for everything).

    Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't really a good
    idea to begin with, let alone numerous services all with their own
    'exclusive' content. The old cable and satelitte TV services have been
    struggling for decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.

    So Disney+ is not as popular as hoped.

    Streaming, and other "beamed" services" are not as popular as
    expected/hoped. The way to go is ad paid broadcast, that anyone with a receiver can get.

    Paid streaming was never going to be sustainable (as already proven by
    many cable and satelitte services in the past). Most people cannot
    afford to keep paying out to 20 different streaming services just to
    watch a few shows on each one.

    What has happened is "churning" - with some people signing up to a
    streaming service for a week / month, binge watching the new season of
    the shows they want, then unsubscribing and moving to another service
    for a week / month. You've now got some streaming services that are
    moving back to ye olde "release one new episode per week" format, but
    that's not going to save them either.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM on Sat Feb 8 23:32:05 2025
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    In article <vo87r9$5e6a$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 07/02/2025 17:00, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0p1ru6c57tsij005@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
    latest DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26
    episodes", which will be completed once the spin-off "The
    War Between the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney
    are not happy with what they have been getting from their
    partnership with the BBC then there won't be a second
    order... the deal will have been completed and both Disney
    and the BBC can move on. I assume it will be the ratings for
    S2/S15 this spring that will be decisive, but if the
    ratings/viewing figures are in the same ball-park as they
    were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to move on...

    a new partner needed?

    Possibly.

    But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
    "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes. There's
    no guarantee that another streaming service would be be
    interested in the show.

    Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
    break? It wouldn't be the first time...

    The BBC have killed off the entire franchise by hiring perverts to run
    the show who despite 70% of the audience being male and 97% being >heterosexual turned the Doctor into an autistic lesbian woman and then
    into an effeminate promiscuous homosexual, then filled the show with >transvestites in order to sexually groom children. But even that does
    not compare to the irreparable damage done the Timeless Child monster
    which has destroyed William Hartnell's entire legacy. Autism, women, >homosexuals, and transvestites can all be tolerated. The Timeless Child >monster cannot!


    Retcon the Timeless Child!

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM on Sat Feb 8 23:31:37 2025
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    In article <vo876o$5e6a$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 07/02/2025 14:52, Blueshirt wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the
    history of the series across multiple metrics, which is not
    what Disney bargained for. Here's what a long-time source has
    told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on Disney Plus.
    #disney #doctorwho #disneyplus

    https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the latest

    Former Doctor Who executive producer. Doctor Who ended in 2017.

    DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
    which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between the
    Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy with
    what they have been getting from their partnership with the BBC
    then there won't be a second order... the deal will have been
    completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on. I assume it
    will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that will be
    decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in the same
    ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to
    move on...

    With the woke degeneracy set do be worse than ever due to the woke
    racist and sexist bigot RTD only hiring people based on their race,
    gender, sexuality, and gender identity, does anyone seriously think the >writing, acting, and production will improve?

    Kick DEI out of entertainment. Discrimination, Exclusion, and Inequity
    based on race, gender, sexuality, gender identity, and disability does
    not belong in the civilized world. Bring back the meritocracy.


    Base in on merit?


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sat Feb 8 23:33:25 2025
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    In article <xn0p1tfsi8pq5u002@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 07/02/2025 14:52, Blueshirt wrote:

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
    latest

    Former Doctor Who executive producer.

    I'm sure the day will come when that is accurate!

    DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
    which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between
    the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy
    with what they have been getting from their partnership with
    the BBC then there won't be a second order... the deal will
    have been completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on.
    I assume it will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that
    will be decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in
    the same ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would
    expect Disney to move on...

    With the woke degeneracy set do be worse than ever due to the
    woke racist and sexist bigot RTD only hiring people based on
    their race, gender, sexuality, and gender identity, does
    anyone seriously think the writing, acting, and production
    will improve?

    I'd like to think that RTD would learn from the unimpressive
    ratings and generally poor feedback from last season and try to
    make S2/S15 a bit more entertaining... S1/S14 had some good
    moments, but it had a lot of weak points too.


    The Timeless Child being the albatross.

    Kick DEI out of entertainment. Discrimination, Exclusion, and
    Inequity based on race, gender, sexuality, gender identity,
    and disability does not belong in the civilized world. Bring
    back the meritocracy.

    Is that from your manifesto?

    The AGA manifesto?
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sat Feb 8 23:32:52 2025
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    In article <xn0p1tfoi8jwuo001@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0p1tbc82p8v9000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Your Name wrote:

    A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the
    pre-Disney seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who
    because they stupidly believed it would raise their number
    of subscribers, which it wasn't ever going to do and
    anybody with more than one braincell could have told them
    the 'ratings' would drop dramatically. The only legal way
    for international viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently
    is to subscribe to Disney+, which most people simply
    weren't going to bother doing, especially for just one show
    and continual prices rises (both for Disney+ and general
    retail prices for everything).

    I don't think the directors of these streaming services live
    in the real world. I would never have thought anyone around
    the world would subscribe to Disney+ JUST for "Doctor
    Who"... it's not that kind of essential show. Maybe when the
    Tenth Doctor and Rose/Martha were around it might have
    happened to some degree, as that was a popular time for the
    show. But Disney were being delusional if they thought in
    2023 that "Doctor Who" would be the show to hook the masses
    in to their shiny new streaming service.

    Now, I did think "Doctor Who" post 2023 would be more popular
    than it has been... but even as a fan, and had I needed to, I
    still wouldn't have subscribed to Disney+ just to watch
    "Doctor Who" at the prices they are charging.

    Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't
    really a good idea to begin with, let alone numerous
    services all with their own 'exclusive' content. The old
    cable and satelitte TV services have been struggling for
    decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.

    There is a use for streaming services but I doubt anyone
    subscribes to any of them for just one show. When they were a
    bit cheaper, and during covid, they played their part in
    entertaining us, but now with the continual price rises, and
    adverts, people will be more choosy in which ones they
    subscribe to. So whenever I see reports that subscriber
    numbers are down on ______ service I just think, "What did
    you expect?"

    Nobody can subscribe to everything so somebody is going to
    suffer.

    DW is suffering beacuse of an antiDisney sentiment.

    "Doctor Who" was suffering before Disney came along, if that's
    the word you want to use to describe fandom unhappiness and poor
    ratings. Disney had nothing to do with the 13th Doctor's era,
    which was over before they came along. Plus, the ratings that
    the show has been getting in the UK (BBC1/iPlayer) since the
    15th Doctor arrived on the scene have nothing whatsoever to do
    with Disney either, as "Doctor Who" is not on Disney+ in the UK
    & Ireland. So maybe you need to start seeing the bigger picture.

    The real 13th Doctor looks like the 10th Doctor.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sat Feb 8 23:34:07 2025
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    In article <xn0p1tfzh8zt49003@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 07/02/2025 17:00, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    a new partner needed?

    Possibly.

    But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
    "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes.
    There's no guarantee that another streaming service would be
    be interested in the show.

    Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
    break? It wouldn't be the first time...

    The BBC have killed off the entire franchise by hiring
    perverts to run the show who despite 70% of the audience being
    male and 97% being heterosexual turned the Doctor into an
    autistic lesbian woman and then into an effeminate promiscuous
    homosexual, then filled the show with transvestites in order
    to sexually groom children. But even that does not compare to
    the irreparable damage done the Timeless Child monster which
    has destroyed William Hartnell's entire legacy.

    I wouldn't say the BBC have killed off the franchise just yet...
    but by the end of the year they might well have done!

    S2/S15 could be the make or break season for the show...

    Autism, women, homosexuals, and transvestites can all be
    tolerated.

    That's very generous of you... I never had you down as liberal
    minded.

    The Timeless Child monster cannot!

    Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but there
    will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child era next
    season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of guy than a
    retconner!

    Well RTD is oging the way of JN-T .
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to YourName@YourISP.com on Sat Feb 8 23:35:43 2025
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    In article <vo8gvo$7bd1$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-08 15:41:29 +0000, Blueshirt said:

    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <vo5tr1$3lv3f$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the
    pre-Disney seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who
    because they stupidly believed it would raise their number
    of subscribers, which it wasn't ever going to do and anybody
    with more than one braincell could have told them the
    'ratings' would drop dramatically. The only legal way for
    international viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently is to
    subscribe to Disney+, which most people simply weren't going
    to bother doing, especially for just one show and continual
    prices rises (both for Disney+ and general retail prices for
    everything).

    Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't
    really a good idea to begin with, let alone numerous
    services all with their own 'exclusive' content. The old
    cable and satelitte TV services have been struggling for
    decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.

    So Disney+ is not as popular as hoped.

    Or more accurately...

    Doctor Who is not as popular as Disney hoped!

    Even more accurately, streaming services are, unsurprisingly, not as
    popular as the greedy fools in management thought they were going to be
    ... mainly because there are simply far too many streaming services.

    They can't get the amount of subscribers to maintain the services, so
    now most are shifting towards advertising, which will simply push even
    more people to stop bothering to subscribe. Some service are also
    looking at sharing their "exclusive" content, but it's just far too
    late. The number of streaming service will continue to dwindle until
    only those with very deep pockets remain and only for as long as those >pockets can sustain the loses via the profits from the conmpanys' other >businesses (the theme parks for Disney, but even those are struggling
    with rising costs).



    Too many commercial in the streamers.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to tppm@rr.ca.com on Sat Feb 8 23:35:19 2025
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    In article <vo8bc2$68su$1@dont-email.me>, Tim Merrigan <tppm@rr.ca.com> wrote: >On 2/7/2025 5:16 PM, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <vo5tr1$3lv3f$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-07 14:52:24 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the
    history of the series across multiple metrics, which is not
    what Disney bargained for. Here's what a long-time source has
    told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on Disney Plus.
    #disney #doctorwho #disneyplus

    https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the latest
    DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
    which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between the
    Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy with
    what they have been getting from their partnership with the BBC
    then there won't be a second order... the deal will have been
    completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on. I assume it
    will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that will be
    decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in the same
    ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to
    move on...

    A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the pre-Disney
    seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who because they stupidly
    believed it would raise their number of subscribers, which it wasn't
    ever going to do and anybody with more than one braincell could have
    told them the 'ratings' would drop dramatically. The only legal way for
    international viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently is to subscribe
    to Disney+, which most people simply weren't going to bother doing,
    especially for just one show and continual prices rises (both for
    Disney+ and general retail prices for everything).

    Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't really a good
    idea to begin with, let alone numerous services all with their own
    'exclusive' content. The old cable and satelitte TV services have been
    struggling for decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.




    So Disney+ is not as popular as hoped.

    Streaming, and other "beamed" services" are not as popular as
    expected/hoped. The way to go is ad paid broadcast, that anyone with a >receiver can get.


    ad in streaming is what is killing streaming.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to YourName@YourISP.com on Sat Feb 8 23:36:14 2025
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    In article <vo8hkb$7fcp$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-08 19:13:04 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0p1tbc82p8v9000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Your Name wrote:

    A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the
    pre-Disney seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who
    because they stupidly believed it would raise their number
    of subscribers, which it wasn't ever going to do and
    anybody with more than one braincell could have told them
    the 'ratings' would drop dramatically. The only legal way
    for international viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently
    is to subscribe to Disney+, which most people simply
    weren't going to bother doing, especially for just one show
    and continual prices rises (both for Disney+ and general
    retail prices for everything).

    I don't think the directors of these streaming services live
    in the real world. I would never have thought anyone around
    the world would subscribe to Disney+ JUST for "Doctor
    Who"... it's not that kind of essential show. Maybe when the
    Tenth Doctor and Rose/Martha were around it might have
    happened to some degree, as that was a popular time for the
    show. But Disney were being delusional if they thought in
    2023 that "Doctor Who" would be the show to hook the masses
    in to their shiny new streaming service.

    Now, I did think "Doctor Who" post 2023 would be more popular
    than it has been... but even as a fan, and had I needed to, I
    still wouldn't have subscribed to Disney+ just to watch
    "Doctor Who" at the prices they are charging.

    Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't
    really a good idea to begin with, let alone numerous
    services all with their own 'exclusive' content. The old
    cable and satelitte TV services have been struggling for
    decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.

    There is a use for streaming services but I doubt anyone
    subscribes to any of them for just one show. When they were a
    bit cheaper, and during covid, they played their part in
    entertaining us, but now with the continual price rises, and
    adverts, people will be more choosy in which ones they
    subscribe to. So whenever I see reports that subscriber
    numbers are down on ______ service I just think, "What did
    you expect?"

    Nobody can subscribe to everything so somebody is going to
    suffer.

    DW is suffering beacuse of an antiDisney sentiment.

    "Doctor Who" was suffering before Disney came along, if that's
    the word you want to use to describe fandom unhappiness and poor
    ratings. Disney had nothing to do with the 13th Doctor's era,
    which was over before they came along. Plus, the ratings that
    the show has been getting in the UK (BBC1/iPlayer) since the
    15th Doctor arrived on the scene have nothing whatsoever to do
    with Disney either, as "Doctor Who" is not on Disney+ in the UK
    & Ireland. So maybe you need to start seeing the bigger picture.

    You can at least partly thank the blantant Politically Correctness
    idiocy to appease BBC quota box ticking for that. I know of quite a few >people who used to be big fans of Doctor Who, but the stupidity of
    gender and ethnicity swapping characaters meant none of them watched
    when it was still on free broadcast TV, let alone when it required a
    Disney+ subscription.

    The Disney+ shift has simply added more nails in the coffin lid for >international viewers. I wouldn't be surprised if international DVD
    sales figures have risen *slightly* since that happened, and of course
    DVD sales likely don't count in the almighty "ratings". (The numbers
    watching via the nuaghty web have likely also risen slightly, but then >there's no measure of that.)



    Disney seems to popular with the DEI crowd.
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  • From Dr. WTF@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Sat Feb 8 18:37:43 2025
    On 2025-02-08 4:31 p.m., The Doctor wrote:
    In article <vo876o$5e6a$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 07/02/2025 14:52, Blueshirt wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the
    history of the series across multiple metrics, which is not
    what Disney bargained for. Here's what a long-time source has
    told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on Disney Plus.
    #disney #doctorwho #disneyplus

    https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the latest

    Former Doctor Who executive producer. Doctor Who ended in 2017.

    DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
    which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between the
    Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy with
    what they have been getting from their partnership with the BBC
    then there won't be a second order... the deal will have been
    completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on. I assume it
    will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that will be
    decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in the same
    ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to
    move on...

    With the woke degeneracy set do be worse than ever due to the woke
    racist and sexist bigot RTD only hiring people based on their race,
    gender, sexuality, and gender identity, does anyone seriously think the
    writing, acting, and production will improve?

    Kick DEI out of entertainment. Discrimination, Exclusion, and Inequity
    based on race, gender, sexuality, gender identity, and disability does
    not belong in the civilized world. Bring back the meritocracy.


    Base in on merit?


    No moss growing on you eh binky, except Aggy's idea seems awfully close
    to white patriarchy which means you are back on the sidelines.



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  • From Dr. WTF@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sat Feb 8 18:35:48 2025
    On 2025-02-08 12:19 p.m., Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 07/02/2025 14:52, Blueshirt wrote:

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
    latest

    Former Doctor Who executive producer.

    I'm sure the day will come when that is accurate!

    DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
    which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between
    the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy
    with what they have been getting from their partnership with
    the BBC then there won't be a second order... the deal will
    have been completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on.
    I assume it will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that
    will be decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in
    the same ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would
    expect Disney to move on...

    With the woke degeneracy set do be worse than ever due to the
    woke racist and sexist bigot RTD only hiring people based on
    their race, gender, sexuality, and gender identity, does
    anyone seriously think the writing, acting, and production
    will improve?

    I'd like to think that RTD would learn from the unimpressive
    ratings and generally poor feedback from last season and try to
    make S2/S15 a bit more entertaining... S1/S14 had some good
    moments, but it had a lot of weak points too.

    Kick DEI out of entertainment. Discrimination, Exclusion, and
    Inequity based on race, gender, sexuality, gender identity,
    and disability does not belong in the civilized world. Bring
    back the meritocracy.

    Is that from your manifesto?

    Aggy's concept of "meritocracy" seems extremely similar to white patriarchy.

    Why is that I wonder.

    <cross-posts removed>

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    other sets oF people are human.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sun Feb 9 02:27:46 2025
    In article <VKKcnSC8dZPCljX6nZ2dnZfqn_gAAAAA@giganews.com>,
    % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
    Dr. WTF wrote:
    On 2025-02-08 4:31 p.m., The Doctor wrote:
    In article <vo876o$5e6a$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor  <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 07/02/2025 14:52, Blueshirt wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the
    history of the series across multiple metrics, which is not
    what Disney bargained for. Here's what a long-time source has
    told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on Disney Plus.
    #disney #doctorwho #disneyplus

    https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the latest

    Former Doctor Who executive producer. Doctor Who ended in 2017.

    DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
    which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between the
    Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy with
    what they have been getting from their partnership with the BBC
    then there won't be a second order... the deal will have been
    completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on. I assume it
    will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that will be
    decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in the same
    ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to
    move on...

    With the woke degeneracy set do be worse than ever due to the woke
    racist and sexist bigot RTD only hiring people based on their race,
    gender, sexuality, and gender identity, does anyone seriously think the >>>> writing, acting, and production will improve?

    Kick DEI out of entertainment. Discrimination, Exclusion, and Inequity >>>> based on race, gender, sexuality, gender identity, and disability does >>>> not belong in the civilized world. Bring back the meritocracy.


    Base in on merit?


    No moss growing on you eh binky, except Aggy's idea seems awfully close
    ^^^^^<-NAMBLA paedophile talker noted
    to white patriarchy which means you are back on the sidelines.



    sorry but you don't get to say who goes where

    Hear! Hear! % !
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  • From The True Doctor@21:1/5 to Dr. WTF on Sun Feb 9 03:58:00 2025
    On 09/02/2025 01:35, Dr. WTF wrote:
    On 2025-02-08 12:19 p.m., Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 07/02/2025 14:52, Blueshirt wrote:

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
    latest

    Former Doctor Who executive producer.

    I'm sure the day will come when that is accurate!
    DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
    which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between
    the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy
    with what they have been getting from their partnership with
    the BBC then there won't be a second order... the deal will
    have been completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on.
    I assume it will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that
    will be decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in
    the same ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would
    expect Disney to move on...

    With the woke degeneracy set do be worse than ever due to the
    woke racist and sexist bigot RTD only hiring people based on
    their race, gender, sexuality, and gender identity, does
    anyone seriously think the writing, acting, and production
    will improve?

    I'd like to think that RTD would learn from the unimpressive
    ratings and generally poor feedback from last season and try to
    make S2/S15 a bit more entertaining... S1/S14 had some good
    moments, but it had a lot of weak points too.
    Kick DEI out of entertainment. Discrimination, Exclusion, and
    Inequity based on race, gender, sexuality, gender identity,
    and disability does not belong in the civilized world. Bring
    back the meritocracy.

    Is that from your manifesto?

    Aggy's concept of "meritocracy" seems extremely similar to white
    patriarchy.

    Why is that I wonder.


    Because you're a moron. Meritocracy means selecting the best, not
    selecting people based on their class, race, nationality, gender, skin
    colour, or sexuality which have nothing to do with what they're being
    selected for.

    <cross-posts removed>



    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
    stands for." -William Shatner

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sun Feb 9 12:35:22 2025
    In article <pz6dnQYhco-phTX6nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
    % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
    Dr. WTF wrote:
    On 2025-02-08 12:19 p.m., Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 07/02/2025 14:52, Blueshirt wrote:

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
    latest

    Former Doctor Who executive producer.

    I'm sure the day will come when that is accurate!
    DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
    which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between
    the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy
    with what they have been getting from their partnership with
    the BBC then there won't be a second order... the deal will
    have been completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on.
    I assume it will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that
    will be decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in
    the same ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would
    expect Disney to move on...

    With the woke degeneracy set do be worse than ever due to the
    woke racist and sexist bigot RTD only hiring people based on
    their race, gender, sexuality, and gender identity, does
    anyone seriously think the writing, acting, and production
    will improve?

    I'd like to think that RTD would learn from the unimpressive
    ratings and generally poor feedback from last season and try to
    make S2/S15 a bit more entertaining... S1/S14 had some good
    moments, but it had a lot of weak points too.
    Kick DEI out of entertainment. Discrimination, Exclusion, and
    Inequity based on race, gender, sexuality, gender identity,
    and disability does not belong in the civilized world. Bring
    back the meritocracy.

    Is that from your manifesto?

    Aggy's concept of "meritocracy" seems extremely similar to white
    patriarchy.

    Why is that I wonder.

    <cross-posts removed>

    because it makes you post

    Dr.WTf is such a lost cause.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM on Sun Feb 9 12:35:57 2025
    In article <vo9949$esqd$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 09/02/2025 01:35, Dr. WTF wrote:
    On 2025-02-08 12:19 p.m., Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 07/02/2025 14:52, Blueshirt wrote:

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
    latest

    Former Doctor Who executive producer.

    I'm sure the day will come when that is accurate!
    DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
    which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between
    the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy
    with what they have been getting from their partnership with
    the BBC then there won't be a second order... the deal will
    have been completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on.
    I assume it will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that
    will be decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in
    the same ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would
    expect Disney to move on...

    With the woke degeneracy set do be worse than ever due to the
    woke racist and sexist bigot RTD only hiring people based on
    their race, gender, sexuality, and gender identity, does
    anyone seriously think the writing, acting, and production
    will improve?

    I'd like to think that RTD would learn from the unimpressive
    ratings and generally poor feedback from last season and try to
    make S2/S15 a bit more entertaining... S1/S14 had some good
    moments, but it had a lot of weak points too.
    Kick DEI out of entertainment. Discrimination, Exclusion, and
    Inequity based on race, gender, sexuality, gender identity,
    and disability does not belong in the civilized world. Bring
    back the meritocracy.

    Is that from your manifesto?

    Aggy's concept of "meritocracy" seems extremely similar to white
    patriarchy.

    Why is that I wonder.


    Because you're a moron. Meritocracy means selecting the best, not
    selecting people based on their class, race, nationality, gender, skin >colour, or sexuality which have nothing to do with what they're being >selected for.

    <cross-posts removed>



    Dr.WTF is a pro-Hamas troll from edm.general .


    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." -William Shatner


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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 11 00:14:39 2025
    On 8/02/2025 6:18 am, % wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0p1rxmz5cepg5002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    <Snip>

    But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
    "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes. There's
    no guarantee that another streaming service would be be
    interested in the show.

    Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
    break? It wouldn't be the first time...

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    i hope they don't put hyacinth back on

    Ah!! Hyacinth!! Now you're talking!! "Bouquet" wasn't it?? ;-P
    --
    Daniel70

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to daniel47@eternal-september.org on Mon Feb 10 15:03:00 2025
    In article <vocu3v$17bcn$2@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
    On 8/02/2025 6:18 am, % wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0p1rxmz5cepg5002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    <Snip>

    But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
    "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes. There's
    no guarantee that another streaming service would be be
    interested in the show.

    Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
    break? It wouldn't be the first time...

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    i hope they don't put hyacinth back on

    Ah!! Hyacinth!! Now you're talking!! "Bouquet" wasn't it?? ;-P
    --
    Daniel70

    Ah! Yes!
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Mon Feb 10 15:03:44 2025
    In article <qOKcnf1KMciHYTT6nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com>,
    % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:
    On 8/02/2025 6:18 am, % wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0p1rxmz5cepg5002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    <Snip>

    But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
    "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes. There's
    no guarantee that another streaming service would be be
    interested in the show.

    Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
    break? It wouldn't be the first time...

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    i hope they don't put hyacinth back on

    Ah!! Hyacinth!! Now you're talking!! "Bouquet" wasn't it?? ;-P

    bucket

    Kick it!
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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Tue Feb 11 23:46:56 2025
    On 9/02/2025 10:34 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0p1tfzh8zt49003@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    <Snip>

    Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but there
    will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child era next
    season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of guy than a
    retconner!

    Well RTD is oging the way of JN-T .

    "oging"??
    --
    Daniel70

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca on Tue Feb 11 10:31:53 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv
    XPost: can.arts.sf, rec.arts.sf.fandom

    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
    latest DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26
    episodes", which will be completed once the spin-off "The
    War Between the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney
    are not happy with what they have been getting from their
    partnership with the BBC then there won't be a second
    order... the deal will have been completed and both Disney
    and the BBC can move on. I assume it will be the ratings for
    S2/S15 this spring that will be decisive, but if the
    ratings/viewing figures are in the same ball-park as they
    were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to move on...

    a new partner needed?

    Possibly.

    But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
    "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes. There's
    no guarantee that another streaming service would be be
    interested in the show.

    Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
    break? It wouldn't be the first time...

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!

    --
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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to blueshirt@indigo.news on Tue Feb 11 10:34:28 2025
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.sf.fandom

    blueshirt@indigo.news wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    Autism, women, homosexuals, and transvestites can all be
    tolerated. The Timeless Child monster cannot!

    Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but there
    will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child era next
    season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of guy than a
    retconner!

    Isn't RTD pals with the person who came up with The Timeless Child
    and unwilling to undo it?

    --
    Not a joke! Don't jump!

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to YourName@YourISP.com on Tue Feb 11 10:36:15 2025
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.fandom, rec.arts.sf.tv

    In article <vo5tr1$3lv3f$1@dont-email.me>, YourName@YourISP.com wrote:

    Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't really a good
    idea to begin with, let alone numerous services all with their own >'exclusive' content. The old cable and satelitte TV services have been >struggling for decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.

    Is it true that cable is making a comeback, mostly because people are fed
    up with spending more for multiple streaming services?

    --
    Don't jump!

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to weberm@polaris.net on Tue Feb 11 15:38:58 2025
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.sf.fandom

    In article <vofqm5$1r2on$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    blueshirt@indigo.news wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    Autism, women, homosexuals, and transvestites can all be
    tolerated. The Timeless Child monster cannot!

    Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but there
    will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child era next
    season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of guy than a
    retconner!

    Isn't RTD pals with the person who came up with The Timeless Child
    and unwilling to undo it?


    Heance a new era is needed!

    --
    Not a joke! Don't jump!



    --
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to weberm@polaris.net on Tue Feb 11 16:01:26 2025
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.fandom, rec.arts.sf.tv

    In article <vofqpg$1r2on$3@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <vo5tr1$3lv3f$1@dont-email.me>, YourName@YourISP.com wrote:

    Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't really a good
    idea to begin with, let alone numerous services all with their own >>'exclusive' content. The old cable and satelitte TV services have been >>struggling for decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.

    Is it true that cable is making a comeback, mostly because people are fed
    up with spending more for multiple streaming services?


    Yes.

    --
    Don't jump!



    --
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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Tue Feb 11 17:24:44 2025
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.sf.fandom

    Ubiquitous wrote:

    blueshirt@indigo.news wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    Autism, women, homosexuals, and transvestites can all be
    tolerated. The Timeless Child monster cannot!

    Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but
    there will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child
    era next season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of
    guy than a retconner!

    Isn't RTD pals with the person who came up with The Timeless
    Child and unwilling to undo it?

    Yes, Chris Chibnall, and RTD said quite openly that he "wouldn't
    unwrite anything that his good friend had written"... yet some
    people still think that RTD will retcon the Timeless Child and
    erase that era from "Doctor Who" lore! <rolls eyes>

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Tue Feb 11 17:27:05 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho, rec.arts.sf.fandom

    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <vofqh9$1r2on$1@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced
    budget for "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more
    episodes. There's no guarantee that another streaming
    service would be be interested in the show.

    Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give
    it a break? It wouldn't be the first time...

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was terrible!


    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    Was, Dave. Jodie's Doctor is long gone... so it's time to move
    on.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Tue Feb 11 17:30:04 2025
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <vofqm5$1r2on$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    blueshirt@indigo.news wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    Autism, women, homosexuals, and transvestites can all be
    tolerated. The Timeless Child monster cannot!

    Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but
    there will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child
    era next season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of
    guy than a retconner!

    Isn't RTD pals with the person who came up with The Timeless
    Child and unwilling to undo it?

    Heance a new era is needed!

    I really am going to have to dig-up those posts on RADW from
    2023 where you was welcoming the return of RTD aren't I? Just
    for old times sake.

    They are surely good for a laugh if nothing else...

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Tue Feb 11 17:41:49 2025
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho, rec.arts.sf.tv

    Ubiquitous wrote:

    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget
    for "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes.
    There's no guarantee that another streaming service would
    be be interested in the show.

    Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it
    a break? It wouldn't be the first time...

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was terrible!

    I kind of like Ncuti's Doctor, he could be written a bit more
    stronger and Doctor-ish, but RTD seems to think that the Doctor
    should be an effeminate Time Lord with feelings, and that crying
    shows he cares about other people's suffering... so either I
    have watched the wrong "Doctor Who" episodes growing up, or he
    has! I don't blame Ncuti though, the scripts are on the
    shoulders of RTD and reflect what he wants from the Doctor.

    I would like to see a stronger Doctor in S2/S15 with more
    emphasis on him, and action, not the companion and their soap
    opera life. (I have no interest in the families of companions,
    they are [generally] just a waste of precious screen time.) With
    the right script Ncuti Gatwa could still make a good Doctor, IMO.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 11 17:59:04 2025
    XPost: can.arts.sf, rec.arts.sf.fandom, rec.arts.sf.tv
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:

    In article <vofqh9$1r2on$1@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
    latest DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26
    episodes", which will be completed once the spin-off "The
    War Between the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney
    are not happy with what they have been getting from their
    partnership with the BBC then there won't be a second
    order... the deal will have been completed and both Disney
    and the BBC can move on. I assume it will be the ratings for
    S2/S15 this spring that will be decisive, but if the
    ratings/viewing figures are in the same ball-park as they
    were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to move on...

    a new partner needed?

    Possibly.

    But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
    "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes. There's
    no guarantee that another streaming service would be be
    interested in the show.

    Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
    break? It wouldn't be the first time...

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!

    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 12 10:15:48 2025
    On 2025-02-11 12:46:56 +0000, Daniel70 said:
    On 9/02/2025 10:34 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0p1tfzh8zt49003@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    <Snip>

    Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but there
    will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child era next
    season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of guy than a
    retconner!

    Well RTD is oging the way of JN-T .

    "oging"??

    Oging
    The act of poking, jabbing or prodding someone with a
    blunt, hard object. Usually used in awkward situations
    in an untoward manner, in order to make the situation
    more awkward for both.
    <https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Oging>

    ;-)

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Tue Feb 11 23:43:06 2025
    In article <xn0p1xkkg4f323d005@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <vofqh9$1r2on$1@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced
    budget for "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more
    episodes. There's no guarantee that another streaming
    service would be be interested in the show.

    Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give
    it a break? It wouldn't be the first time...

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was terrible!


    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    Was, Dave. Jodie's Doctor is long gone... so it's time to move
    on.

    Did you get the point?
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Tue Feb 11 23:46:28 2025
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    In article <xn0p1xkeo4eurgx003@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    blueshirt@indigo.news wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    Autism, women, homosexuals, and transvestites can all be
    tolerated. The Timeless Child monster cannot!

    Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but
    there will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child
    era next season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of
    guy than a retconner!

    Isn't RTD pals with the person who came up with The Timeless
    Child and unwilling to undo it?

    Yes, Chris Chibnall, and RTD said quite openly that he "wouldn't
    unwrite anything that his good friend had written"... yet some
    people still think that RTD will retcon the Timeless Child and
    erase that era from "Doctor Who" lore! <rolls eyes>

    If he wants to keep DDW popular!
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Tue Feb 11 23:43:50 2025
    XPost: can.arts.sf, rec.arts.sf.fandom, rec.arts.sf.tv
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote: >On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:

    In article <vofqh9$1r2on$1@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
    latest DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26
    episodes", which will be completed once the spin-off "The
    War Between the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney
    are not happy with what they have been getting from their
    partnership with the BBC then there won't be a second
    order... the deal will have been completed and both Disney
    and the BBC can move on. I assume it will be the ratings for
    S2/S15 this spring that will be decisive, but if the
    ratings/viewing figures are in the same ball-park as they
    were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to move on...

    a new partner needed?

    Possibly.

    But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
    "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes. There's
    no guarantee that another streaming service would be be
    interested in the show.

    Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
    break? It wouldn't be the first time...

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!

    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early >episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.



    No fan of the Green Death.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Tue Feb 11 23:47:47 2025
    In article <xn0p1xkn44f6wvg006@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <vofqm5$1r2on$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    blueshirt@indigo.news wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    Autism, women, homosexuals, and transvestites can all be
    tolerated. The Timeless Child monster cannot!

    Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but
    there will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child
    era next season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of
    guy than a retconner!

    Isn't RTD pals with the person who came up with The Timeless
    Child and unwilling to undo it?

    Heance a new era is needed!

    I really am going to have to dig-up those posts on RADW from
    2023 where you was welcoming the return of RTD aren't I? Just
    for old times sake.

    They are surely good for a laugh if nothing else...


    I did say that because one hope someone could learn from past mistakes.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to YourName@YourISP.com on Tue Feb 11 23:48:46 2025
    In article <vogem3$1urfq$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-11 12:46:56 +0000, Daniel70 said:
    On 9/02/2025 10:34 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0p1tfzh8zt49003@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    <Snip>

    Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but there
    will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child era next
    season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of guy than a
    retconner!

    Well RTD is oging the way of JN-T .

    "oging"??

    Oging
    The act of poking, jabbing or prodding someone with a
    blunt, hard object. Usually used in awkward situations
    in an untoward manner, in order to make the situation
    more awkward for both.
    <https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Oging>

    ;-)



    Touche.
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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Wed Feb 12 04:30:43 2025
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    XPost: rec.arts.tv, uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
    On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!

    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.

    That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)

    Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been snow-balled was it for me.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Wed Feb 12 12:26:37 2025
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0p1xkkg4f323d005@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <vofqh9$1r2on$1@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was terrible!


    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    Was, Dave. Jodie's Doctor is long gone... so it's time to
    move on.

    Did you get the point?

    Yes Dave, did you though?

    Jodie Whittaker's Doctor can't have been that much of a
    deal-breaker for you if you still watched every episode of
    Doctor Who since then and will sit down and watch the new season
    when it airs this spring.. so clearly you lack understanding of
    what the term deal-breaker actually means. (No surprise there
    then!)

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Wed Feb 12 12:38:33 2025
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0p1xkn44f6wvg006@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <vofqm5$1r2on$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    Isn't RTD pals with the person who came up with The
    Timeless Child and unwilling to undo it?

    Heance a new era is needed!

    I really am going to have to dig-up those posts on RADW from
    2023 where you was welcoming the return of RTD aren't I? Just
    for old times sake.

    I did say that because one hope someone could learn from past
    mistakes.

    Past mistakes? The first RTD era of the show was one of the most
    popular times for Doctor Who as a TV show. Sure, it wasn't
    perfect, but it was popular among the TV watching audience of
    the day. We had an iconic Doctor (David Tennant), high ratings,
    merch everywhere (etc.) If RTD and Bad Wolf could get Doctor Who
    back to that level of popularity they'd be more than delighted.

    And so would we!

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Wed Feb 12 14:35:37 2025
    In article <xn0p1yqwt5jcd08000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0p1xkkg4f323d005@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <vofqh9$1r2on$1@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was terrible!


    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    Was, Dave. Jodie's Doctor is long gone... so it's time to
    move on.

    Did you get the point?

    Yes Dave, did you though?

    Jodie Whittaker's Doctor can't have been that much of a
    deal-breaker for you if you still watched every episode of
    Doctor Who since then and will sit down and watch the new season
    when it airs this spring.. so clearly you lack understanding of
    what the term deal-breaker actually means. (No surprise there
    then!)

    Point is I doubt Ncuti is a deal breaker like Jodie.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to weberm@polaris.net on Wed Feb 12 14:34:55 2025
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    In article <voi356$2ai7v$3@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
    On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!

    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early
    episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.

    That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)


    Good point.

    Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been snow-balled was it for me.

    :-(


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Wed Feb 12 14:36:48 2025
    In article <xn0p1yrij5k7qds002@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0p1xkn44f6wvg006@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <vofqm5$1r2on$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    Isn't RTD pals with the person who came up with The
    Timeless Child and unwilling to undo it?

    Heance a new era is needed!

    I really am going to have to dig-up those posts on RADW from
    2023 where you was welcoming the return of RTD aren't I? Just
    for old times sake.

    I did say that because one hope someone could learn from past
    mistakes.

    Past mistakes? The first RTD era of the show was one of the most
    popular times for Doctor Who as a TV show. Sure, it wasn't
    perfect, but it was popular among the TV watching audience of
    the day. We had an iconic Doctor (David Tennant), high ratings,
    merch everywhere (etc.) If RTD and Bad Wolf could get Doctor Who
    back to that level of popularity they'd be more than delighted.

    And so would we!

    Past mistakes include the Time Wars and the Timeless Child!
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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Thu Feb 13 20:12:33 2025
    On 12/02/2025 11:38 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0p1xkn44f6wvg006@post.eweka.nl>, Blueshirt
    <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <vofqm5$1r2on$2@dont-email.me>, Ubiquitous
    <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    Isn't RTD pals with the person who came up with The Timeless
    Child and unwilling to undo it?

    Heance a new era is needed!

    I really am going to have to dig-up those posts on RADW from 2023
    where you was welcoming the return of RTD aren't I? Just for old
    times sake.

    I did say that because one hope someone could learn from past
    mistakes.

    Past mistakes? The first RTD era of the show was one of the most
    popular times for Doctor Who as a TV show.

    And, given what RTD has, apparently, done to Disney 'Doctor Who', I'm
    wondering if, maybe, RTD wanted to do something similar way back then,
    and Christopher Eccelstion (SP??) might have walked out in PROTEST.

    Sure, it wasn't perfect, but it was popular among the TV watching
    audience of the day. We had an iconic Doctor (David Tennant), high
    ratings, merch everywhere (etc.) If RTD and Bad Wolf could get Doctor
    Who back to that level of popularity they'd be more than delighted.

    And so would we!

    Correct!!
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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Thu Feb 13 10:11:48 2025
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0p1yqwt5jcd08000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Jodie Whittaker's Doctor can't have been that much of a
    deal-breaker for you if you still watched every episode of
    Doctor Who since then and will sit down and watch the new
    season when it airs this spring.. so clearly you lack
    understanding of what the term deal-breaker actually means.
    (No surprise there then!)

    Point is I doubt Ncuti is a deal breaker like Jodie.

    It's quite possible that more people have switched off "Doctor
    Who" during Ncuti Gatwa's tenure than during Jodie's era? I'm
    sure our resident Professor of Literature and Statistics will
    have the details on that. The forthcoming season's ratings will
    tell a lot.

    BUT, nobody could be the deal-breaker for you as you still watch
    the show! So "Doctor Who" must be providing you with some sort
    of entertainment to keep you engaged for all this time.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to daniel47@eternal-september.org on Thu Feb 13 12:28:53 2025
    In article <vokd24$2radm$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
    On 12/02/2025 11:38 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0p1xkn44f6wvg006@post.eweka.nl>, Blueshirt
    <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <vofqm5$1r2on$2@dont-email.me>, Ubiquitous
    <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    Isn't RTD pals with the person who came up with The Timeless
    Child and unwilling to undo it?

    Heance a new era is needed!

    I really am going to have to dig-up those posts on RADW from 2023
    where you was welcoming the return of RTD aren't I? Just for old
    times sake.

    I did say that because one hope someone could learn from past
    mistakes.

    Past mistakes? The first RTD era of the show was one of the most
    popular times for Doctor Who as a TV show.

    And, given what RTD has, apparently, done to Disney 'Doctor Who', I'm >wondering if, maybe, RTD wanted to do something similar way back then,
    and Christopher Eccelstion (SP??) might have walked out in PROTEST.


    Could be.

    Sure, it wasn't perfect, but it was popular among the TV watching
    audience of the day. We had an iconic Doctor (David Tennant), high
    ratings, merch everywhere (etc.) If RTD and Bad Wolf could get Doctor
    Who back to that level of popularity they'd be more than delighted.

    And so would we!

    Correct!!

    Maybe less influence from ...

    --
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Thu Feb 13 12:29:57 2025
    In article <xn0p201q56ts5zy000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0p1yqwt5jcd08000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Jodie Whittaker's Doctor can't have been that much of a
    deal-breaker for you if you still watched every episode of
    Doctor Who since then and will sit down and watch the new
    season when it airs this spring.. so clearly you lack
    understanding of what the term deal-breaker actually means.
    (No surprise there then!)

    Point is I doubt Ncuti is a deal breaker like Jodie.

    It's quite possible that more people have switched off "Doctor
    Who" during Ncuti Gatwa's tenure than during Jodie's era? I'm
    sure our resident Professor of Literature and Statistics will
    have the details on that. The forthcoming season's ratings will
    tell a lot.

    BUT, nobody could be the deal-breaker for you as you still watch
    the show! So "Doctor Who" must be providing you with some sort
    of entertainment to keep you engaged for all this time.

    That should be in NOT a deal breaker!@ Correction!!

    Yes, Ruby Sunday part of UNIT.
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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Thu Feb 13 15:37:56 2025
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0p1yrij5k7qds002@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    I did say that because one hope someone could learn from
    past mistakes.

    Past mistakes? The first RTD era of the show was one of the
    most popular times for Doctor Who as a TV show. Sure, it
    wasn't perfect, but it was very popular among the TV watching
    audience of the day. We had an iconic Doctor (David
    Tennant), high ratings, merch everywhere (etc.) If RTD and
    Bad Wolf could get Doctor Who back to that level of
    popularity they'd be more than delighted.

    And so would we!

    Past mistakes include the Time Wars and the Timeless Child!

    Well, if we're playing that game I could say past mistakes
    include destroying Gallifrey (again), humpback Daleks and the
    Flux!

    AGA would throw in the moon thing as well...

    We could all find fault with something. So it's best just to go
    forward and what's done is done. Plus, I don't think RTD cares
    what the fans think anyway.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 13 15:37:58 2025
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 12/02/2025 11:38 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    I did say that because one hope someone could learn from
    past mistakes.

    Past mistakes? The first RTD era of the show was one of the
    most popular times for Doctor Who as a TV show.

    And, given what RTD has, apparently, done to Disney 'Doctor
    Who', I'm wondering if, maybe, RTD wanted to do something
    similar way back then, and Christopher Eccelstion (SP??) might
    have walked out in PROTEST.

    Might being the operative word of course!

    The story Christopher Eccleston gives has been widely shared in
    recent years and it was more to do with him falling out with
    Phil Collinson and Julie Gardner during a recording block, and
    then RTD doubling-down by supporting his production team and
    ignoring Eccleston's criticisms... so Eccleston did his job,
    finished his scenes and said fuck you RTD.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Fri Feb 14 01:20:33 2025
    In article <xn0p20adv75g94o000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0p1yrij5k7qds002@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    I did say that because one hope someone could learn from
    past mistakes.

    Past mistakes? The first RTD era of the show was one of the
    most popular times for Doctor Who as a TV show. Sure, it
    wasn't perfect, but it was very popular among the TV watching
    audience of the day. We had an iconic Doctor (David
    Tennant), high ratings, merch everywhere (etc.) If RTD and
    Bad Wolf could get Doctor Who back to that level of
    popularity they'd be more than delighted.

    And so would we!

    Past mistakes include the Time Wars and the Timeless Child!

    Well, if we're playing that game I could say past mistakes
    include destroying Gallifrey (again), humpback Daleks and the
    Flux!

    AGA would throw in the moon thing as well...

    We could all find fault with something. So it's best just to go
    forward and what's done is done. Plus, I don't think RTD cares
    what the fans think anyway.

    Hence diminishing returns on investment.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Fri Feb 14 01:21:42 2025
    In article <xn0p20at4762ce0002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 12/02/2025 11:38 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    I did say that because one hope someone could learn from
    past mistakes.

    Past mistakes? The first RTD era of the show was one of the
    most popular times for Doctor Who as a TV show.

    And, given what RTD has, apparently, done to Disney 'Doctor
    Who', I'm wondering if, maybe, RTD wanted to do something
    similar way back then, and Christopher Eccelstion (SP??) might
    have walked out in PROTEST.

    Might being the operative word of course!

    The story Christopher Eccleston gives has been widely shared in
    recent years and it was more to do with him falling out with
    Phil Collinson and Julie Gardner during a recording block, and
    then RTD doubling-down by supporting his production team and
    ignoring Eccleston's criticisms... so Eccleston did his job,
    finished his scenes and said f*k you RTD.


    Major hint.
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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Fri Feb 14 21:34:17 2025
    On 14/02/2025 2:37 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 12/02/2025 11:38 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    I did say that because one hope someone could learn from
    past mistakes.

    Past mistakes? The first RTD era of the show was one of the
    most popular times for Doctor Who as a TV show.

    And, given what RTD has, apparently, done to Disney 'Doctor
    Who', I'm wondering if, maybe, RTD wanted to do something
    similar way back then, and Christopher Eccelstion (SP??) might
    have walked out in PROTEST.

    Might being the operative word of course!

    The story Christopher Eccleston gives has been widely shared in
    recent years and it was more to do with him falling out with
    Phil Collinson and Julie Gardner during a recording block, and
    then RTD doubling-down by supporting his production team and
    ignoring Eccleston's criticisms... so Eccleston did his job,
    finished his scenes and said fuck you RTD.

    Ah, well ......!
    --
    Daniel70

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 14 12:14:22 2025
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 14/02/2025 2:37 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    And, given what RTD has, apparently, done to Disney 'Doctor
    Who', I'm wondering if, maybe, RTD wanted to do something
    similar way back then, and Christopher Eccelstion (SP??)
    might have walked out in PROTEST.

    Might being the operative word of course!

    The story Christopher Eccleston gives has been widely shared
    in recent years and it was more to do with him falling out
    with Phil Collinson and Julie Gardner during a recording
    block, and then RTD doubling-down by supporting his
    production team and ignoring Eccleston's criticisms... so
    Eccleston did his job, finished his scenes and said fuck you
    RTD.

    Ah, well ......!

    Well, I wasn't actually there... so Christopher Eccleston could
    have been making it up! ;-)

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to daniel47@eternal-september.org on Fri Feb 14 14:30:52 2025
    In article <von678$3e4r8$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
    On 14/02/2025 2:37 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 12/02/2025 11:38 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    I did say that because one hope someone could learn from
    past mistakes.

    Past mistakes? The first RTD era of the show was one of the
    most popular times for Doctor Who as a TV show.

    And, given what RTD has, apparently, done to Disney 'Doctor
    Who', I'm wondering if, maybe, RTD wanted to do something
    similar way back then, and Christopher Eccelstion (SP??) might
    have walked out in PROTEST.

    Might being the operative word of course!

    The story Christopher Eccleston gives has been widely shared in
    recent years and it was more to do with him falling out with
    Phil Collinson and Julie Gardner during a recording block, and
    then RTD doubling-down by supporting his production team and
    ignoring Eccleston's criticisms... so Eccleston did his job,
    finished his scenes and said f*k you RTD.

    Ah, well ......!

    Not the first time!

    --
    Daniel70


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Fri Feb 14 14:38:07 2025
    In article <xn0p21k1uxhdya006@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 14/02/2025 2:37 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    And, given what RTD has, apparently, done to Disney 'Doctor
    Who', I'm wondering if, maybe, RTD wanted to do something
    similar way back then, and Christopher Eccelstion (SP??)
    might have walked out in PROTEST.

    Might being the operative word of course!

    The story Christopher Eccleston gives has been widely shared
    in recent years and it was more to do with him falling out
    with Phil Collinson and Julie Gardner during a recording
    block, and then RTD doubling-down by supporting his
    production team and ignoring Eccleston's criticisms... so
    Eccleston did his job, finished his scenes and said f*k you
    RTD.

    Ah, well ......!

    Well, I wasn't actually there... so Christopher Eccleston could
    have been making it up! ;-)

    Who knows.
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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to mike@xenocyte.com on Mon Feb 24 04:35:08 2025
    XPost: can.arts.sf, rec.arts.sf.fandom, rec.arts.sf.tv
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <voilob$2e4c4$1@dont-email.me>, mike@xenocyte.com wrote:
    On 12/02/2025 09:30, Ubiquitous wrote:
    In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
    On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!

    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early
    episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.

    That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)

    I believe the previous poster was referring to Pat Troughton dressing up as
    a washerwoman in The Highlanders, though it's possible they even meant Bill Hartnell in a toga in The Romans. Jon Pertwee also dressed as a female cleaner in The Green Death, though I think we're getting a bit past "one of the early episodes" by that point.

    No, he was talking about one of the first scenes of the first eps
    with Ncuti dancing at a bar.

    https://youtu.be/WkTjZ0CIIM0

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 23 09:22:50 2025
    XPost: can.arts.sf, rec.arts.sf.fandom, rec.arts.sf.tv
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 4:30:43 -0500, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    In article <voi356$2ai7v$3@dont-email.me>, wrote:
    In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
    On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!

    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early
    episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.

    That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)

    Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been snow-balled was it for me.

    What's wrong with that?

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to NoBody on Mon Feb 24 16:34:45 2025
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.tv

    NoBody wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 4:30:43 -0500, Ubiquitous
    <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been
    snow-balled was it for me.

    What's wrong with that?

    Filth!

    Our mate Aggy would say the 15th Doctor using sexual innuendos
    like that backs up his claim that RTD is a sexual pervert and he
    is using "Doctor Who" to sexually groom people...

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to NoBody@nowhere.com on Mon Feb 24 16:39:53 2025
    XPost: can.arts.sf, rec.arts.sf.fandom, rec.arts.sf.tv
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <7tcmrjdm7tUt6di6pjitgp34vlpq74evjq@4ax.com>,
    NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 4:30:43 -0500, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    In article <voi356$2ai7v$3@dont-email.me>, wrote:
    In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
    On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!

    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early
    episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.

    That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)

    Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been snow-balled was it for me.

    What's wrong with that?



    thing wrong in being Celtic.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Mon Feb 24 16:40:45 2025
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.tv

    In article <xn0p2fsgcbuzcx000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    NoBody wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 4:30:43 -0500, Ubiquitous
    <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been
    snow-balled was it for me.

    What's wrong with that?

    Filth!

    Our mate Aggy would say the 15th Doctor using sexual innuendos
    like that backs up his claim that RTD is a sexual pervert and he
    is using "Doctor Who" to sexually groom people...

    REal 14th! The 15th Doctor has yet to appear.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to weberm@polaris.net on Mon Feb 24 16:40:14 2025
    XPost: can.arts.sf, rec.arts.sf.fandom, rec.arts.sf.tv
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <vpi6if$172e7$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <voilob$2e4c4$1@dont-email.me>, mike@xenocyte.com wrote:
    On 12/02/2025 09:30, Ubiquitous wrote:
    In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
    On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!

    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early >>>> episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.

    That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)

    I believe the previous poster was referring to Pat Troughton dressing up as >> a washerwoman in The Highlanders, though it's possible they even meant Bill >> Hartnell in a toga in The Romans. Jon Pertwee also dressed as a female
    cleaner in The Green Death, though I think we're getting a bit past "one of >> the early episodes" by that point.

    No, he was talking about one of the first scenes of the first eps
    with Ncuti dancing at a bar.

    https://youtu.be/WkTjZ0CIIM0


    Ah! Yes!!

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  • From john@21:1/5 to NoBody@nowhere.com on Mon Feb 24 13:04:13 2025
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.fandom, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    NoBody@nowhere.com wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <voi356$2ai7v$3@dont-email.me>, wrote:
    In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
    On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!

    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early
    episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.

    That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)

    Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been snow-balled was it for >>me.

    What's wrong with that?

    It's a gay sex act involving cum.

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  • From Olivia@21:1/5 to john@hamiltonhall.info on Mon Feb 24 13:20:02 2025
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.fandom, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    john@hamiltonhall.info wrote:
    NoBody@nowhere.com wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <voi356$2ai7v$3@dont-email.me>, wrote:
    In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
    On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!

    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early >>>> episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.

    That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)

    Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been snow-balled was it for >>>me.

    What's wrong with that?

    It's a gay sex act involving cum.

    eeew!!

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to john on Tue Feb 25 00:46:06 2025
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.fandom, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <5296c8c0202f241f60103147004ca55f@hamiltonhall.info>,
    john <john@hamiltonhall.info> wrote:
    NoBody@nowhere.com wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <voi356$2ai7v$3@dont-email.me>, wrote:
    In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
    On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!

    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early >>>> episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.

    That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)

    Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been snow-balled was it for >>>me.

    What's wrong with that?

    It's a gay sex act involving cum.


    Sick!
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to noreplys@automwolfwellness.com on Tue Feb 25 00:46:21 2025
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.fandom, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <0109019519cb9489-b289fbe7-cfc7-47cd-a9ac-ca622bdc3a96-000000@ap-south-1.amazonses.com>,
    Olivia <noreplys@automwolfwellness.com> wrote:
    john@hamiltonhall.info wrote:
    NoBody@nowhere.com wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <voi356$2ai7v$3@dont-email.me>, wrote:
    In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
    On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote: >>>>>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!

    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early >>>>> episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.

    That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)

    Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been snow-balled was it for >>>>me.

    What's wrong with that?

    It's a gay sex act involving cum.

    eeew!!


    TRoll for you!
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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to john@hamiltonhall.info on Tue Feb 25 04:30:41 2025
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    XPost: rec.arts.tv, uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    john@hamiltonhall.info wrote:
    NoBody@nowhere.com wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <voi356$2ai7v$3@dont-email.me>, wrote:
    atropos@mac.com wrote:
    "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!

    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early >>>> episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.

    That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)

    Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been snow-balled was it for >>>me.

    What's wrong with that?

    It's a gay sex act involving cum.

    Yeah, a definite TMI moment.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to weberm@polaris.net on Tue Feb 25 14:20:06 2025
    XPost: can.arts.sf, rec.arts.sf.fandom, rec.arts.sf.tv
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <vpkbs6$1upbp$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    john@hamiltonhall.info wrote:
    NoBody@nowhere.com wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <voi356$2ai7v$3@dont-email.me>, wrote:
    atropos@mac.com wrote:
    "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!

    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early >>>>> episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.

    That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)

    Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been snow-balled was it for >>>>me.

    What's wrong with that?

    It's a gay sex act involving cum.

    Yeah, a definite TMI moment.


    Ouch!

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