The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the
history of the series across multiple metrics, which is not
what Disney bargained for. Here's what a long-time source has
told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on Disney Plus.
#disney #doctorwho #disneyplus
https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg
On 2/7/2025 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the history of the >> series across multiple metrics, which is not what Disney bargained for. Here's
what a long-time source has told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on
Disney Plus. #disney #doctorwho #disneyplus
https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg
--
Let's go Brandon!
^ Isn't that getting a little tired. He went.
pt
The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the history of the >series across multiple metrics, which is not what Disney bargained for. Here's >what a long-time source has told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on >Disney Plus. #disney #doctorwho #disneyplus
https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg
--
Let's go Brandon!
Ubiquitous wrote:
The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the
history of the series across multiple metrics, which is not
what Disney bargained for. Here's what a long-time source has
told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on Disney Plus.
#disney #doctorwho #disneyplus
https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg
According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the latest
DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between the
Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy with
what they have been getting from their partnership with the BBC
then there won't be a second order... the deal will have been
completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on. I assume it
will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that will be
decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in the same
ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to
move on...
In article <xn0p1ru6c57tsij005@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
latest DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26
episodes", which will be completed once the spin-off "The
War Between the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney
are not happy with what they have been getting from their
partnership with the BBC then there won't be a second
order... the deal will have been completed and both Disney
and the BBC can move on. I assume it will be the ratings for
S2/S15 this spring that will be decisive, but if the
ratings/viewing figures are in the same ball-park as they
were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to move on...
a new partner needed?
In article <vo55g7$3hjkl$2@dont-email.me>,
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/7/2025 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
--
Let's go Brandon!
^ Isn't that getting a little tired. He went.
pt
Brandon is gone.
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p1ru6c57tsij005@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
latest DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26
episodes", which will be completed once the spin-off "The
War Between the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney
are not happy with what they have been getting from their
partnership with the BBC then there won't be a second
order... the deal will have been completed and both Disney
and the BBC can move on. I assume it will be the ratings for
S2/S15 this spring that will be decisive, but if the
ratings/viewing figures are in the same ball-park as they
were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to move on...
a new partner needed?
Possibly.
But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
"Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes. There's
no guarantee that another streaming service would be be
interested in the show.
Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
break? It wouldn't be the first time...
Blueshirt wrote:
The Doctor wrote:yea
In article <vo55g7$3hjkl$2@dont-email.me>,
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/7/2025 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
--
Let's go Brandon!
^ Isn't that getting a little tired. He went.
pt
Brandon is gone.
The USA have gone from having a senile old man that could hardly
walk or talk properly as its President, to a crazy old guy with
a suntan who sounds like he wants to take over the world.
Democracy, don't yer just love it?!
The Doctor wrote:
In article <vo55g7$3hjkl$2@dont-email.me>,
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/7/2025 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
--
Let's go Brandon!
^ Isn't that getting a little tired. He went.
pt
Brandon is gone.
The USA have gone from having a senile old man that could hardly
walk or talk properly as its President, to a crazy old guy with
a suntan who sounds like he wants to take over the world.
Democracy, don't yer just love it?!
Ubiquitous wrote:
The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the
history of the series across multiple metrics, which is not
what Disney bargained for. Here's what a long-time source has
told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on Disney Plus.
#disney #doctorwho #disneyplus
https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg
According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the latest
DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between the
Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy with
what they have been getting from their partnership with the BBC
then there won't be a second order... the deal will have been
completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on. I assume it
will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that will be
decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in the same
ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to
move on...
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p1rxmz5cepg5002@post.eweka.nl>,i hope they don't put hyacinth back on
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p1ru6c57tsij005@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
latest DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26
episodes", which will be completed once the spin-off "The
War Between the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney
are not happy with what they have been getting from their
partnership with the BBC then there won't be a second
order... the deal will have been completed and both Disney
and the BBC can move on. I assume it will be the ratings for
S2/S15 this spring that will be decisive, but if the
ratings/viewing figures are in the same ball-park as they
were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to move on...
a new partner needed?
Possibly.
But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
"Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes. There's
no guarantee that another streaming service would be be
interested in the show.
Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
break? It wouldn't be the first time...
Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p1ryk35dqlup004@news.eternal-september.org>,i like you do what you do and i'll do what i do
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <vo55g7$3hjkl$2@dont-email.me>,
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/7/2025 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
--
Let's go Brandon!
^ Isn't that getting a little tired. He went.
pt
Brandon is gone.
The USA have gone from having a senile old man that could hardly
walk or talk properly as its President, to a crazy old guy with
a suntan who sounds like he wants to take over the world.
Democracy, don't yer just love it?!
I prefer Constitutional morchy to Republic!
On 2025-02-07 14:52:24 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Ubiquitous wrote:
The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the
history of the series across multiple metrics, which is not
what Disney bargained for. Here's what a long-time source has
told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on Disney Plus.
#disney #doctorwho #disneyplus
https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg
According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the latest
DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between the
Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy with
what they have been getting from their partnership with the BBC
then there won't be a second order... the deal will have been
completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on. I assume it
will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that will be
decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in the same
ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to
move on...
A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the pre-Disney >seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who because they stupidly >believed it would raise their number of subscribers, which it wasn't
ever going to do and anybody with more than one braincell could have
told them the 'ratings' would drop dramatically. The only legal way for >international viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently is to subscribe
to Disney+, which most people simply weren't going to bother doing, >especially for just one show and continual prices rises (both for
Disney+ and general retail prices for everything).
Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't really a good
idea to begin with, let alone numerous services all with their own >'exclusive' content. The old cable and satelitte TV services have been >struggling for decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.
The Doctor wrote:
In article <JhmcndPDi9w-wTv6nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com>,i can't reply to that or ,
% <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p1ryk35dqlup004@news.eternal-september.org>,i like you do what you do and i'll do what i do
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <vo55g7$3hjkl$2@dont-email.me>,
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/7/2025 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
--
Let's go Brandon!
^ Isn't that getting a little tired. He went.
pt
Brandon is gone.
The USA have gone from having a senile old man that could hardly
walk or talk properly as its President, to a crazy old guy with
a suntan who sounds like he wants to take over the world.
Democracy, don't yer just love it?!
I prefer Constitutional morchy to Republic!
As long as Trump dies as the last President of the conquered USA!
i wouldn't be doing what i do
The Doctor wrote:
In article <bMicnSi5JcZMKTv6nZ2dnZfqnPoAAAAA@giganews.com>,fine thanks
% <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <JhmcndPDi9w-wTv6nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com>,i can't reply to that or ,
% <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p1ryk35dqlup004@news.eternal-september.org>,i like you do what you do and i'll do what i do
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <vo55g7$3hjkl$2@dont-email.me>,
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/7/2025 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
--
Let's go Brandon!
^ Isn't that getting a little tired. He went.
pt
Brandon is gone.
The USA have gone from having a senile old man that could hardly >>>>>>> walk or talk properly as its President, to a crazy old guy with
a suntan who sounds like he wants to take over the world.
Democracy, don't yer just love it?!
I prefer Constitutional morchy to Republic!
As long as Trump dies as the last President of the conquered USA!
i wouldn't be doing what i do
Oh. well.
In article <vo5tr1$3lv3f$1@dont-email.me>,
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the
pre-Disney seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who
because they stupidly believed it would raise their number
of subscribers, which it wasn't ever going to do and anybody
with more than one braincell could have told them the
'ratings' would drop dramatically. The only legal way for
international viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently is to
subscribe to Disney+, which most people simply weren't going
to bother doing, especially for just one show and continual
prices rises (both for Disney+ and general retail prices for
everything).
Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't
really a good idea to begin with, let alone numerous
services all with their own 'exclusive' content. The old
cable and satelitte TV services have been struggling for
decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.
So Disney+ is not as popular as hoped.
The Doctor wrote:
In article <vo5tr1$3lv3f$1@dont-email.me>,
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the
pre-Disney seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who
because they stupidly believed it would raise their number
of subscribers, which it wasn't ever going to do and anybody
with more than one braincell could have told them the
'ratings' would drop dramatically. The only legal way for
international viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently is to
subscribe to Disney+, which most people simply weren't going
to bother doing, especially for just one show and continual
prices rises (both for Disney+ and general retail prices for
everything).
Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't
really a good idea to begin with, let alone numerous
services all with their own 'exclusive' content. The old
cable and satelitte TV services have been struggling for
decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.
So Disney+ is not as popular as hoped.
Or more accurately...
Doctor Who is not as popular as Disney hoped!
A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the
pre-Disney seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who
because they stupidly believed it would raise their number of
subscribers, which it wasn't ever going to do and anybody with
more than one braincell could have told them the 'ratings'
would drop dramatically. The only legal way for international
viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently is to subscribe to
Disney+, which most people simply weren't going to bother
doing, especially for just one show and continual prices rises
(both for Disney+ and general retail prices for everything).
Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't
really a good idea to begin with, let alone numerous services
all with their own 'exclusive' content. The old cable and
satelitte TV services have been struggling for decades to
retain and grow subscriber numbers.
Your Name wrote:
A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the
pre-Disney seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who
because they stupidly believed it would raise their number of
subscribers, which it wasn't ever going to do and anybody with
more than one braincell could have told them the 'ratings'
would drop dramatically. The only legal way for international
viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently is to subscribe to
Disney+, which most people simply weren't going to bother
doing, especially for just one show and continual prices rises
(both for Disney+ and general retail prices for everything).
I don't think the directors of these streaming services live in
the real world. I would never have thought anyone around the
world would subscribe to Disney+ JUST for "Doctor Who"... it's
not that kind of essential show. Maybe when the Tenth Doctor and
Rose/Martha were around it might have happened to some degree,
as that was a popular time for the show. But Disney were being
delusional if they thought in 2023 that "Doctor Who" would be
the show to hook the masses in to their shiny new streaming
service.
Now, I did think "Doctor Who" post 2023 would be more popular
than it has been... but even as a fan, and had I needed to, I
still wouldn't have subscribed to Disney+ just to watch "Doctor
Who" at the prices they are charging.
Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't
really a good idea to begin with, let alone numerous services
all with their own 'exclusive' content. The old cable and
satelitte TV services have been struggling for decades to
retain and grow subscriber numbers.
There is a use for streaming services but I doubt anyone
subscribes to any of them for just one show. When they were a
bit cheaper, and during covid, they played their part in
entertaining us, but now with the continual price rises, and
adverts, people will be more choosy in which ones they
subscribe to. So whenever I see reports that subscriber numbers
are down on ______ service I just think, "What did you expect?"
Nobody can subscribe to everything so somebody is going to
suffer.
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p1ru6c57tsij005@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
latest DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26
episodes", which will be completed once the spin-off "The
War Between the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney
are not happy with what they have been getting from their
partnership with the BBC then there won't be a second
order... the deal will have been completed and both Disney
and the BBC can move on. I assume it will be the ratings for
S2/S15 this spring that will be decisive, but if the
ratings/viewing figures are in the same ball-park as they
were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to move on...
a new partner needed?
Possibly.
But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
"Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes. There's
no guarantee that another streaming service would be be
interested in the show.
Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
break? It wouldn't be the first time...
Ubiquitous wrote:
The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the
history of the series across multiple metrics, which is not
what Disney bargained for. Here's what a long-time source has
told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on Disney Plus.
#disney #doctorwho #disneyplus
https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg
According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the latest
DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between the
Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy with
what they have been getting from their partnership with the BBC
then there won't be a second order... the deal will have been
completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on. I assume it
will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that will be
decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in the same
ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to
move on...
In article <xn0p1tbc82p8v9000@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Your Name wrote:
A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the
pre-Disney seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who
because they stupidly believed it would raise their number
of subscribers, which it wasn't ever going to do and
anybody with more than one braincell could have told them
the 'ratings' would drop dramatically. The only legal way
for international viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently
is to subscribe to Disney+, which most people simply
weren't going to bother doing, especially for just one show
and continual prices rises (both for Disney+ and general
retail prices for everything).
I don't think the directors of these streaming services live
in the real world. I would never have thought anyone around
the world would subscribe to Disney+ JUST for "Doctor
Who"... it's not that kind of essential show. Maybe when the
Tenth Doctor and Rose/Martha were around it might have
happened to some degree, as that was a popular time for the
show. But Disney were being delusional if they thought in
2023 that "Doctor Who" would be the show to hook the masses
in to their shiny new streaming service.
Now, I did think "Doctor Who" post 2023 would be more popular
than it has been... but even as a fan, and had I needed to, I
still wouldn't have subscribed to Disney+ just to watch
"Doctor Who" at the prices they are charging.
Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't
really a good idea to begin with, let alone numerous
services all with their own 'exclusive' content. The old
cable and satelitte TV services have been struggling for
decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.
There is a use for streaming services but I doubt anyone
subscribes to any of them for just one show. When they were a
bit cheaper, and during covid, they played their part in
entertaining us, but now with the continual price rises, and
adverts, people will be more choosy in which ones they
subscribe to. So whenever I see reports that subscriber
numbers are down on ______ service I just think, "What did
you expect?"
Nobody can subscribe to everything so somebody is going to
suffer.
DW is suffering beacuse of an antiDisney sentiment.
On 07/02/2025 14:52, Blueshirt wrote:
According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
latest
Former Doctor Who executive producer.
DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between
the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy
with what they have been getting from their partnership with
the BBC then there won't be a second order... the deal will
have been completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on.
I assume it will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that
will be decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in
the same ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would
expect Disney to move on...
With the woke degeneracy set do be worse than ever due to the
woke racist and sexist bigot RTD only hiring people based on
their race, gender, sexuality, and gender identity, does
anyone seriously think the writing, acting, and production
will improve?
Kick DEI out of entertainment. Discrimination, Exclusion, and
Inequity based on race, gender, sexuality, gender identity,
and disability does not belong in the civilized world. Bring
back the meritocracy.
On 07/02/2025 17:00, Blueshirt wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
a new partner needed?
Possibly.
But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
"Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes.
There's no guarantee that another streaming service would be
be interested in the show.
Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
break? It wouldn't be the first time...
The BBC have killed off the entire franchise by hiring
perverts to run the show who despite 70% of the audience being
male and 97% being heterosexual turned the Doctor into an
autistic lesbian woman and then into an effeminate promiscuous
homosexual, then filled the show with transvestites in order
to sexually groom children. But even that does not compare to
the irreparable damage done the Timeless Child monster which
has destroyed William Hartnell's entire legacy.
Autism, women, homosexuals, and transvestites can all be
tolerated.
The Timeless Child monster cannot!
In article <vo5tr1$3lv3f$1@dont-email.me>,
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
On 2025-02-07 14:52:24 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Ubiquitous wrote:
The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the
history of the series across multiple metrics, which is not
what Disney bargained for. Here's what a long-time source has
told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on Disney Plus.
#disney #doctorwho #disneyplus
https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg
According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the latest
DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between the
Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy with
what they have been getting from their partnership with the BBC
then there won't be a second order... the deal will have been
completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on. I assume it
will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that will be
decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in the same
ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to
move on...
A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the pre-Disney
seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who because they stupidly
believed it would raise their number of subscribers, which it wasn't
ever going to do and anybody with more than one braincell could have
told them the 'ratings' would drop dramatically. The only legal way for
international viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently is to subscribe
to Disney+, which most people simply weren't going to bother doing,
especially for just one show and continual prices rises (both for
Disney+ and general retail prices for everything).
Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't really a good
idea to begin with, let alone numerous services all with their own
'exclusive' content. The old cable and satelitte TV services have been
struggling for decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.
So Disney+ is not as popular as hoped.
The Doctor wrote:
In article <vo5tr1$3lv3f$1@dont-email.me>,
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the
pre-Disney seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who
because they stupidly believed it would raise their number
of subscribers, which it wasn't ever going to do and anybody
with more than one braincell could have told them the
'ratings' would drop dramatically. The only legal way for
international viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently is to
subscribe to Disney+, which most people simply weren't going
to bother doing, especially for just one show and continual
prices rises (both for Disney+ and general retail prices for
everything).
Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't
really a good idea to begin with, let alone numerous
services all with their own 'exclusive' content. The old
cable and satelitte TV services have been struggling for
decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.
So Disney+ is not as popular as hoped.
Or more accurately...
Doctor Who is not as popular as Disney hoped!
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p1tbc82p8v9000@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Your Name wrote:
A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the
pre-Disney seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who
because they stupidly believed it would raise their number
of subscribers, which it wasn't ever going to do and
anybody with more than one braincell could have told them
the 'ratings' would drop dramatically. The only legal way
for international viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently
is to subscribe to Disney+, which most people simply
weren't going to bother doing, especially for just one show
and continual prices rises (both for Disney+ and general
retail prices for everything).
I don't think the directors of these streaming services live
in the real world. I would never have thought anyone around
the world would subscribe to Disney+ JUST for "Doctor
Who"... it's not that kind of essential show. Maybe when the
Tenth Doctor and Rose/Martha were around it might have
happened to some degree, as that was a popular time for the
show. But Disney were being delusional if they thought in
2023 that "Doctor Who" would be the show to hook the masses
in to their shiny new streaming service.
Now, I did think "Doctor Who" post 2023 would be more popular
than it has been... but even as a fan, and had I needed to, I
still wouldn't have subscribed to Disney+ just to watch
"Doctor Who" at the prices they are charging.
Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't
really a good idea to begin with, let alone numerous
services all with their own 'exclusive' content. The old
cable and satelitte TV services have been struggling for
decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.
There is a use for streaming services but I doubt anyone
subscribes to any of them for just one show. When they were a
bit cheaper, and during covid, they played their part in
entertaining us, but now with the continual price rises, and
adverts, people will be more choosy in which ones they
subscribe to. So whenever I see reports that subscriber
numbers are down on ______ service I just think, "What did
you expect?"
Nobody can subscribe to everything so somebody is going to
suffer.
DW is suffering beacuse of an antiDisney sentiment.
"Doctor Who" was suffering before Disney came along, if that's
the word you want to use to describe fandom unhappiness and poor
ratings. Disney had nothing to do with the 13th Doctor's era,
which was over before they came along. Plus, the ratings that
the show has been getting in the UK (BBC1/iPlayer) since the
15th Doctor arrived on the scene have nothing whatsoever to do
with Disney either, as "Doctor Who" is not on Disney+ in the UK
& Ireland. So maybe you need to start seeing the bigger picture.
On 2/7/2025 5:16 PM, The Doctor wrote:
In article <vo5tr1$3lv3f$1@dont-email.me>,
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
On 2025-02-07 14:52:24 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Ubiquitous wrote:
The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the
history of the series across multiple metrics, which is not
what Disney bargained for. Here's what a long-time source has
told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on Disney Plus.
#disney #doctorwho #disneyplus
https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg
According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the latest
DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between the
Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy with
what they have been getting from their partnership with the BBC
then there won't be a second order... the deal will have been
completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on. I assume it
will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that will be
decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in the same
ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to
move on...
A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the pre-Disney
seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who because they stupidly
believed it would raise their number of subscribers, which it wasn't
ever going to do and anybody with more than one braincell could have
told them the 'ratings' would drop dramatically. The only legal way for
international viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently is to subscribe
to Disney+, which most people simply weren't going to bother doing,
especially for just one show and continual prices rises (both for
Disney+ and general retail prices for everything).
Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't really a good
idea to begin with, let alone numerous services all with their own
'exclusive' content. The old cable and satelitte TV services have been
struggling for decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.
So Disney+ is not as popular as hoped.
Streaming, and other "beamed" services" are not as popular as
expected/hoped. The way to go is ad paid broadcast, that anyone with a receiver can get.
On 07/02/2025 17:00, Blueshirt wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p1ru6c57tsij005@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
latest DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26
episodes", which will be completed once the spin-off "The
War Between the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney
are not happy with what they have been getting from their
partnership with the BBC then there won't be a second
order... the deal will have been completed and both Disney
and the BBC can move on. I assume it will be the ratings for
S2/S15 this spring that will be decisive, but if the
ratings/viewing figures are in the same ball-park as they
were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to move on...
a new partner needed?
Possibly.
But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
"Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes. There's
no guarantee that another streaming service would be be
interested in the show.
Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
break? It wouldn't be the first time...
The BBC have killed off the entire franchise by hiring perverts to run
the show who despite 70% of the audience being male and 97% being >heterosexual turned the Doctor into an autistic lesbian woman and then
into an effeminate promiscuous homosexual, then filled the show with >transvestites in order to sexually groom children. But even that does
not compare to the irreparable damage done the Timeless Child monster
which has destroyed William Hartnell's entire legacy. Autism, women, >homosexuals, and transvestites can all be tolerated. The Timeless Child >monster cannot!
--
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." -William Shatner
On 07/02/2025 14:52, Blueshirt wrote:
Ubiquitous wrote:
The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the
history of the series across multiple metrics, which is not
what Disney bargained for. Here's what a long-time source has
told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on Disney Plus.
#disney #doctorwho #disneyplus
https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg
According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the latest
Former Doctor Who executive producer. Doctor Who ended in 2017.
DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between the
Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy with
what they have been getting from their partnership with the BBC
then there won't be a second order... the deal will have been
completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on. I assume it
will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that will be
decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in the same
ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to
move on...
With the woke degeneracy set do be worse than ever due to the woke
racist and sexist bigot RTD only hiring people based on their race,
gender, sexuality, and gender identity, does anyone seriously think the >writing, acting, and production will improve?
Kick DEI out of entertainment. Discrimination, Exclusion, and Inequity
based on race, gender, sexuality, gender identity, and disability does
not belong in the civilized world. Bring back the meritocracy.
--
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." -William Shatner
The True Doctor wrote:
On 07/02/2025 14:52, Blueshirt wrote:
According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
latest
Former Doctor Who executive producer.
I'm sure the day will come when that is accurate!
DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between
the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy
with what they have been getting from their partnership with
the BBC then there won't be a second order... the deal will
have been completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on.
I assume it will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that
will be decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in
the same ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would
expect Disney to move on...
With the woke degeneracy set do be worse than ever due to the
woke racist and sexist bigot RTD only hiring people based on
their race, gender, sexuality, and gender identity, does
anyone seriously think the writing, acting, and production
will improve?
I'd like to think that RTD would learn from the unimpressive
ratings and generally poor feedback from last season and try to
make S2/S15 a bit more entertaining... S1/S14 had some good
moments, but it had a lot of weak points too.
Kick DEI out of entertainment. Discrimination, Exclusion, and
Inequity based on race, gender, sexuality, gender identity,
and disability does not belong in the civilized world. Bring
back the meritocracy.
Is that from your manifesto?
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p1tbc82p8v9000@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Your Name wrote:
A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the
pre-Disney seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who
because they stupidly believed it would raise their number
of subscribers, which it wasn't ever going to do and
anybody with more than one braincell could have told them
the 'ratings' would drop dramatically. The only legal way
for international viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently
is to subscribe to Disney+, which most people simply
weren't going to bother doing, especially for just one show
and continual prices rises (both for Disney+ and general
retail prices for everything).
I don't think the directors of these streaming services live
in the real world. I would never have thought anyone around
the world would subscribe to Disney+ JUST for "Doctor
Who"... it's not that kind of essential show. Maybe when the
Tenth Doctor and Rose/Martha were around it might have
happened to some degree, as that was a popular time for the
show. But Disney were being delusional if they thought in
2023 that "Doctor Who" would be the show to hook the masses
in to their shiny new streaming service.
Now, I did think "Doctor Who" post 2023 would be more popular
than it has been... but even as a fan, and had I needed to, I
still wouldn't have subscribed to Disney+ just to watch
"Doctor Who" at the prices they are charging.
Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't
really a good idea to begin with, let alone numerous
services all with their own 'exclusive' content. The old
cable and satelitte TV services have been struggling for
decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.
There is a use for streaming services but I doubt anyone
subscribes to any of them for just one show. When they were a
bit cheaper, and during covid, they played their part in
entertaining us, but now with the continual price rises, and
adverts, people will be more choosy in which ones they
subscribe to. So whenever I see reports that subscriber
numbers are down on ______ service I just think, "What did
you expect?"
Nobody can subscribe to everything so somebody is going to
suffer.
DW is suffering beacuse of an antiDisney sentiment.
"Doctor Who" was suffering before Disney came along, if that's
the word you want to use to describe fandom unhappiness and poor
ratings. Disney had nothing to do with the 13th Doctor's era,
which was over before they came along. Plus, the ratings that
the show has been getting in the UK (BBC1/iPlayer) since the
15th Doctor arrived on the scene have nothing whatsoever to do
with Disney either, as "Doctor Who" is not on Disney+ in the UK
& Ireland. So maybe you need to start seeing the bigger picture.
The True Doctor wrote:
On 07/02/2025 17:00, Blueshirt wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
a new partner needed?
Possibly.
But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
"Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes.
There's no guarantee that another streaming service would be
be interested in the show.
Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
break? It wouldn't be the first time...
The BBC have killed off the entire franchise by hiring
perverts to run the show who despite 70% of the audience being
male and 97% being heterosexual turned the Doctor into an
autistic lesbian woman and then into an effeminate promiscuous
homosexual, then filled the show with transvestites in order
to sexually groom children. But even that does not compare to
the irreparable damage done the Timeless Child monster which
has destroyed William Hartnell's entire legacy.
I wouldn't say the BBC have killed off the franchise just yet...
but by the end of the year they might well have done!
S2/S15 could be the make or break season for the show...
Autism, women, homosexuals, and transvestites can all be
tolerated.
That's very generous of you... I never had you down as liberal
minded.
The Timeless Child monster cannot!
Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but there
will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child era next
season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of guy than a
retconner!
On 2025-02-08 15:41:29 +0000, Blueshirt said:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <vo5tr1$3lv3f$1@dont-email.me>,
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the
pre-Disney seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who
because they stupidly believed it would raise their number
of subscribers, which it wasn't ever going to do and anybody
with more than one braincell could have told them the
'ratings' would drop dramatically. The only legal way for
international viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently is to
subscribe to Disney+, which most people simply weren't going
to bother doing, especially for just one show and continual
prices rises (both for Disney+ and general retail prices for
everything).
Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't
really a good idea to begin with, let alone numerous
services all with their own 'exclusive' content. The old
cable and satelitte TV services have been struggling for
decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.
So Disney+ is not as popular as hoped.
Or more accurately...
Doctor Who is not as popular as Disney hoped!
Even more accurately, streaming services are, unsurprisingly, not as
popular as the greedy fools in management thought they were going to be
... mainly because there are simply far too many streaming services.
They can't get the amount of subscribers to maintain the services, so
now most are shifting towards advertising, which will simply push even
more people to stop bothering to subscribe. Some service are also
looking at sharing their "exclusive" content, but it's just far too
late. The number of streaming service will continue to dwindle until
only those with very deep pockets remain and only for as long as those >pockets can sustain the loses via the profits from the conmpanys' other >businesses (the theme parks for Disney, but even those are struggling
with rising costs).
In article <vo5tr1$3lv3f$1@dont-email.me>,
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
On 2025-02-07 14:52:24 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Ubiquitous wrote:
The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the
history of the series across multiple metrics, which is not
what Disney bargained for. Here's what a long-time source has
told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on Disney Plus.
#disney #doctorwho #disneyplus
https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg
According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the latest
DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between the
Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy with
what they have been getting from their partnership with the BBC
then there won't be a second order... the deal will have been
completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on. I assume it
will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that will be
decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in the same
ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to
move on...
A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the pre-Disney
seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who because they stupidly
believed it would raise their number of subscribers, which it wasn't
ever going to do and anybody with more than one braincell could have
told them the 'ratings' would drop dramatically. The only legal way for
international viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently is to subscribe
to Disney+, which most people simply weren't going to bother doing,
especially for just one show and continual prices rises (both for
Disney+ and general retail prices for everything).
Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't really a good
idea to begin with, let alone numerous services all with their own
'exclusive' content. The old cable and satelitte TV services have been
struggling for decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.
So Disney+ is not as popular as hoped.
Streaming, and other "beamed" services" are not as popular as
expected/hoped. The way to go is ad paid broadcast, that anyone with a >receiver can get.
--
Qualified immunity = virtual impunity.
Tim Merrigan
--
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. >www.avg.com
On 2025-02-08 19:13:04 +0000, Blueshirt said:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p1tbc82p8v9000@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Your Name wrote:
A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the
pre-Disney seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who
because they stupidly believed it would raise their number
of subscribers, which it wasn't ever going to do and
anybody with more than one braincell could have told them
the 'ratings' would drop dramatically. The only legal way
for international viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently
is to subscribe to Disney+, which most people simply
weren't going to bother doing, especially for just one show
and continual prices rises (both for Disney+ and general
retail prices for everything).
I don't think the directors of these streaming services live
in the real world. I would never have thought anyone around
the world would subscribe to Disney+ JUST for "Doctor
Who"... it's not that kind of essential show. Maybe when the
Tenth Doctor and Rose/Martha were around it might have
happened to some degree, as that was a popular time for the
show. But Disney were being delusional if they thought in
2023 that "Doctor Who" would be the show to hook the masses
in to their shiny new streaming service.
Now, I did think "Doctor Who" post 2023 would be more popular
than it has been... but even as a fan, and had I needed to, I
still wouldn't have subscribed to Disney+ just to watch
"Doctor Who" at the prices they are charging.
Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't
really a good idea to begin with, let alone numerous
services all with their own 'exclusive' content. The old
cable and satelitte TV services have been struggling for
decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.
There is a use for streaming services but I doubt anyone
subscribes to any of them for just one show. When they were a
bit cheaper, and during covid, they played their part in
entertaining us, but now with the continual price rises, and
adverts, people will be more choosy in which ones they
subscribe to. So whenever I see reports that subscriber
numbers are down on ______ service I just think, "What did
you expect?"
Nobody can subscribe to everything so somebody is going to
suffer.
DW is suffering beacuse of an antiDisney sentiment.
"Doctor Who" was suffering before Disney came along, if that's
the word you want to use to describe fandom unhappiness and poor
ratings. Disney had nothing to do with the 13th Doctor's era,
which was over before they came along. Plus, the ratings that
the show has been getting in the UK (BBC1/iPlayer) since the
15th Doctor arrived on the scene have nothing whatsoever to do
with Disney either, as "Doctor Who" is not on Disney+ in the UK
& Ireland. So maybe you need to start seeing the bigger picture.
You can at least partly thank the blantant Politically Correctness
idiocy to appease BBC quota box ticking for that. I know of quite a few >people who used to be big fans of Doctor Who, but the stupidity of
gender and ethnicity swapping characaters meant none of them watched
when it was still on free broadcast TV, let alone when it required a
Disney+ subscription.
The Disney+ shift has simply added more nails in the coffin lid for >international viewers. I wouldn't be surprised if international DVD
sales figures have risen *slightly* since that happened, and of course
DVD sales likely don't count in the almighty "ratings". (The numbers
watching via the nuaghty web have likely also risen slightly, but then >there's no measure of that.)
In article <vo876o$5e6a$1@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
On 07/02/2025 14:52, Blueshirt wrote:
Ubiquitous wrote:
The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the
history of the series across multiple metrics, which is not
what Disney bargained for. Here's what a long-time source has
told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on Disney Plus.
#disney #doctorwho #disneyplus
https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg
According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the latest
Former Doctor Who executive producer. Doctor Who ended in 2017.
DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between the
Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy with
what they have been getting from their partnership with the BBC
then there won't be a second order... the deal will have been
completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on. I assume it
will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that will be
decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in the same
ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to
move on...
With the woke degeneracy set do be worse than ever due to the woke
racist and sexist bigot RTD only hiring people based on their race,
gender, sexuality, and gender identity, does anyone seriously think the
writing, acting, and production will improve?
Kick DEI out of entertainment. Discrimination, Exclusion, and Inequity
based on race, gender, sexuality, gender identity, and disability does
not belong in the civilized world. Bring back the meritocracy.
Base in on merit?
The True Doctor wrote:
On 07/02/2025 14:52, Blueshirt wrote:
According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
latest
Former Doctor Who executive producer.
I'm sure the day will come when that is accurate!
DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between
the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy
with what they have been getting from their partnership with
the BBC then there won't be a second order... the deal will
have been completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on.
I assume it will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that
will be decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in
the same ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would
expect Disney to move on...
With the woke degeneracy set do be worse than ever due to the
woke racist and sexist bigot RTD only hiring people based on
their race, gender, sexuality, and gender identity, does
anyone seriously think the writing, acting, and production
will improve?
I'd like to think that RTD would learn from the unimpressive
ratings and generally poor feedback from last season and try to
make S2/S15 a bit more entertaining... S1/S14 had some good
moments, but it had a lot of weak points too.
Kick DEI out of entertainment. Discrimination, Exclusion, and
Inequity based on race, gender, sexuality, gender identity,
and disability does not belong in the civilized world. Bring
back the meritocracy.
Is that from your manifesto?
Dr. WTF wrote:^^^^^<-NAMBLA paedophile talker noted
On 2025-02-08 4:31 p.m., The Doctor wrote:
In article <vo876o$5e6a$1@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
On 07/02/2025 14:52, Blueshirt wrote:
Ubiquitous wrote:
The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the
history of the series across multiple metrics, which is not
what Disney bargained for. Here's what a long-time source has
told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on Disney Plus.
#disney #doctorwho #disneyplus
https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg
According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the latest
Former Doctor Who executive producer. Doctor Who ended in 2017.
DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between the
Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy with
what they have been getting from their partnership with the BBC
then there won't be a second order... the deal will have been
completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on. I assume it
will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that will be
decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in the same
ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to
move on...
With the woke degeneracy set do be worse than ever due to the woke
racist and sexist bigot RTD only hiring people based on their race,
gender, sexuality, and gender identity, does anyone seriously think the >>>> writing, acting, and production will improve?
Kick DEI out of entertainment. Discrimination, Exclusion, and Inequity >>>> based on race, gender, sexuality, gender identity, and disability does >>>> not belong in the civilized world. Bring back the meritocracy.
Base in on merit?
No moss growing on you eh binky, except Aggy's idea seems awfully close
to white patriarchy which means you are back on the sidelines.sorry but you don't get to say who goes where
On 2025-02-08 12:19 p.m., Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
On 07/02/2025 14:52, Blueshirt wrote:
According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
latest
Former Doctor Who executive producer.
I'm sure the day will come when that is accurate!
DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between
the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy
with what they have been getting from their partnership with
the BBC then there won't be a second order... the deal will
have been completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on.
I assume it will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that
will be decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in
the same ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would
expect Disney to move on...
With the woke degeneracy set do be worse than ever due to the
woke racist and sexist bigot RTD only hiring people based on
their race, gender, sexuality, and gender identity, does
anyone seriously think the writing, acting, and production
will improve?
I'd like to think that RTD would learn from the unimpressive
ratings and generally poor feedback from last season and try to
make S2/S15 a bit more entertaining... S1/S14 had some good
moments, but it had a lot of weak points too.
Kick DEI out of entertainment. Discrimination, Exclusion, and
Inequity based on race, gender, sexuality, gender identity,
and disability does not belong in the civilized world. Bring
back the meritocracy.
Is that from your manifesto?
Aggy's concept of "meritocracy" seems extremely similar to white
patriarchy.
Why is that I wonder.
<cross-posts removed>
Dr. WTF wrote:
On 2025-02-08 12:19 p.m., Blueshirt wrote:because it makes you post
The True Doctor wrote:
On 07/02/2025 14:52, Blueshirt wrote:
According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
latest
Former Doctor Who executive producer.
I'm sure the day will come when that is accurate!
DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between
the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy
with what they have been getting from their partnership with
the BBC then there won't be a second order... the deal will
have been completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on.
I assume it will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that
will be decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in
the same ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would
expect Disney to move on...
With the woke degeneracy set do be worse than ever due to the
woke racist and sexist bigot RTD only hiring people based on
their race, gender, sexuality, and gender identity, does
anyone seriously think the writing, acting, and production
will improve?
I'd like to think that RTD would learn from the unimpressive
ratings and generally poor feedback from last season and try to
make S2/S15 a bit more entertaining... S1/S14 had some good
moments, but it had a lot of weak points too.
Kick DEI out of entertainment. Discrimination, Exclusion, and
Inequity based on race, gender, sexuality, gender identity,
and disability does not belong in the civilized world. Bring
back the meritocracy.
Is that from your manifesto?
Aggy's concept of "meritocracy" seems extremely similar to white
patriarchy.
Why is that I wonder.
<cross-posts removed>
On 09/02/2025 01:35, Dr. WTF wrote:
On 2025-02-08 12:19 p.m., Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
On 07/02/2025 14:52, Blueshirt wrote:
According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
latest
Former Doctor Who executive producer.
I'm sure the day will come when that is accurate!
DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between
the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy
with what they have been getting from their partnership with
the BBC then there won't be a second order... the deal will
have been completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on.
I assume it will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that
will be decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in
the same ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would
expect Disney to move on...
With the woke degeneracy set do be worse than ever due to the
woke racist and sexist bigot RTD only hiring people based on
their race, gender, sexuality, and gender identity, does
anyone seriously think the writing, acting, and production
will improve?
I'd like to think that RTD would learn from the unimpressive
ratings and generally poor feedback from last season and try to
make S2/S15 a bit more entertaining... S1/S14 had some good
moments, but it had a lot of weak points too.
Kick DEI out of entertainment. Discrimination, Exclusion, and
Inequity based on race, gender, sexuality, gender identity,
and disability does not belong in the civilized world. Bring
back the meritocracy.
Is that from your manifesto?
Aggy's concept of "meritocracy" seems extremely similar to white
patriarchy.
Why is that I wonder.
Because you're a moron. Meritocracy means selecting the best, not
selecting people based on their class, race, nationality, gender, skin >colour, or sexuality which have nothing to do with what they're being >selected for.
<cross-posts removed>
--
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." -William Shatner
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p1rxmz5cepg5002@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
i hope they don't put hyacinth back onBut, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
"Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes. There's
no guarantee that another streaming service would be be
interested in the show.
Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
break? It wouldn't be the first time...
Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.
On 8/02/2025 6:18 am, % wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p1rxmz5cepg5002@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
<Snip>
i hope they don't put hyacinth back onBut, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
"Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes. There's
no guarantee that another streaming service would be be
interested in the show.
Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
break? It wouldn't be the first time...
Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.
Ah!! Hyacinth!! Now you're talking!! "Bouquet" wasn't it?? ;-P
--
Daniel70
Daniel70 wrote:
On 8/02/2025 6:18 am, % wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p1rxmz5cepg5002@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
<Snip>
i hope they don't put hyacinth back onBut, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
"Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes. There's
no guarantee that another streaming service would be be
interested in the show.
Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
break? It wouldn't be the first time...
Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.
Ah!! Hyacinth!! Now you're talking!! "Bouquet" wasn't it?? ;-P
bucket
In article <xn0p1tfzh8zt49003@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but there
will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child era next
season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of guy than a
retconner!
Well RTD is oging the way of JN-T .
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
latest DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26
episodes", which will be completed once the spin-off "The
War Between the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney
are not happy with what they have been getting from their
partnership with the BBC then there won't be a second
order... the deal will have been completed and both Disney
and the BBC can move on. I assume it will be the ratings for
S2/S15 this spring that will be decisive, but if the
ratings/viewing figures are in the same ball-park as they
were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to move on...
a new partner needed?
Possibly.
But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
"Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes. There's
no guarantee that another streaming service would be be
interested in the show.
Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
break? It wouldn't be the first time...
Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.
The True Doctor wrote:
Autism, women, homosexuals, and transvestites can all be
tolerated. The Timeless Child monster cannot!
Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but there
will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child era next
season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of guy than a
retconner!
Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't really a good
idea to begin with, let alone numerous services all with their own >'exclusive' content. The old cable and satelitte TV services have been >struggling for decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.
blueshirt@indigo.news wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
Autism, women, homosexuals, and transvestites can all be
tolerated. The Timeless Child monster cannot!
Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but there
will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child era next
season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of guy than a
retconner!
Isn't RTD pals with the person who came up with The Timeless Child
and unwilling to undo it?
--
Not a joke! Don't jump!
In article <vo5tr1$3lv3f$1@dont-email.me>, YourName@YourISP.com wrote:
Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't really a good
idea to begin with, let alone numerous services all with their own >>'exclusive' content. The old cable and satelitte TV services have been >>struggling for decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.
Is it true that cable is making a comeback, mostly because people are fed
up with spending more for multiple streaming services?
--
Don't jump!
blueshirt@indigo.news wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
Autism, women, homosexuals, and transvestites can all be
tolerated. The Timeless Child monster cannot!
Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but
there will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child
era next season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of
guy than a retconner!
Isn't RTD pals with the person who came up with The Timeless
Child and unwilling to undo it?
In article <vofqh9$1r2on$1@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced
budget for "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more
episodes. There's no guarantee that another streaming
service would be be interested in the show.
Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give
it a break? It wouldn't be the first time...
Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.
That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was terrible!
The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!
In article <vofqm5$1r2on$2@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
blueshirt@indigo.news wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
Autism, women, homosexuals, and transvestites can all be
tolerated. The Timeless Child monster cannot!
Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but
there will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child
era next season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of
guy than a retconner!
Isn't RTD pals with the person who came up with The Timeless
Child and unwilling to undo it?
Heance a new era is needed!
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget
for "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes.
There's no guarantee that another streaming service would
be be interested in the show.
Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it
a break? It wouldn't be the first time...
Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.
That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was terrible!
In article <vofqh9$1r2on$1@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
latest DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26
episodes", which will be completed once the spin-off "The
War Between the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney
are not happy with what they have been getting from their
partnership with the BBC then there won't be a second
order... the deal will have been completed and both Disney
and the BBC can move on. I assume it will be the ratings for
S2/S15 this spring that will be decisive, but if the
ratings/viewing figures are in the same ball-park as they
were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to move on...
a new partner needed?
Possibly.
But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
"Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes. There's
no guarantee that another streaming service would be be
interested in the show.
Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
break? It wouldn't be the first time...
Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.
That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!
The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!
On 9/02/2025 10:34 am, The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p1tfzh8zt49003@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
<Snip>
Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but there
will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child era next
season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of guy than a
retconner!
Well RTD is oging the way of JN-T .
"oging"??
The Doctor wrote:
In article <vofqh9$1r2on$1@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced
budget for "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more
episodes. There's no guarantee that another streaming
service would be be interested in the show.
Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give
it a break? It wouldn't be the first time...
Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.
That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was terrible!
The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!
Was, Dave. Jodie's Doctor is long gone... so it's time to move
on.
Ubiquitous wrote:
blueshirt@indigo.news wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
Autism, women, homosexuals, and transvestites can all be
tolerated. The Timeless Child monster cannot!
Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but
there will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child
era next season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of
guy than a retconner!
Isn't RTD pals with the person who came up with The Timeless
Child and unwilling to undo it?
Yes, Chris Chibnall, and RTD said quite openly that he "wouldn't
unwrite anything that his good friend had written"... yet some
people still think that RTD will retcon the Timeless Child and
erase that era from "Doctor Who" lore! <rolls eyes>
In article <vofqh9$1r2on$1@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
latest DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26
episodes", which will be completed once the spin-off "The
War Between the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney
are not happy with what they have been getting from their
partnership with the BBC then there won't be a second
order... the deal will have been completed and both Disney
and the BBC can move on. I assume it will be the ratings for
S2/S15 this spring that will be decisive, but if the
ratings/viewing figures are in the same ball-park as they
were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to move on...
a new partner needed?
Possibly.
But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
"Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes. There's
no guarantee that another streaming service would be be
interested in the show.
Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
break? It wouldn't be the first time...
Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.
That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!
The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!
No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early >episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.
The Doctor wrote:
In article <vofqm5$1r2on$2@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
blueshirt@indigo.news wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
Autism, women, homosexuals, and transvestites can all be
tolerated. The Timeless Child monster cannot!
Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but
there will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child
era next season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of
guy than a retconner!
Isn't RTD pals with the person who came up with The Timeless
Child and unwilling to undo it?
Heance a new era is needed!
I really am going to have to dig-up those posts on RADW from
2023 where you was welcoming the return of RTD aren't I? Just
for old times sake.
They are surely good for a laugh if nothing else...
On 2025-02-11 12:46:56 +0000, Daniel70 said:
On 9/02/2025 10:34 am, The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p1tfzh8zt49003@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
<Snip>
Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but there
will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child era next
season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of guy than a
retconner!
Well RTD is oging the way of JN-T .
"oging"??
Oging
The act of poking, jabbing or prodding someone with a
blunt, hard object. Usually used in awkward situations
in an untoward manner, in order to make the situation
more awkward for both.
<https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Oging>
;-)
On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.
That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!
The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!
No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.
In article <xn0p1xkkg4f323d005@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <vofqh9$1r2on$1@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.
That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was terrible!
The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!
Was, Dave. Jodie's Doctor is long gone... so it's time to
move on.
Did you get the point?
In article <xn0p1xkn44f6wvg006@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <vofqm5$1r2on$2@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
Isn't RTD pals with the person who came up with The
Timeless Child and unwilling to undo it?
Heance a new era is needed!
I really am going to have to dig-up those posts on RADW from
2023 where you was welcoming the return of RTD aren't I? Just
for old times sake.
I did say that because one hope someone could learn from past
mistakes.
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p1xkkg4f323d005@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <vofqh9$1r2on$1@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.
That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was terrible!
The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!
Was, Dave. Jodie's Doctor is long gone... so it's time to
move on.
Did you get the point?
Yes Dave, did you though?
Jodie Whittaker's Doctor can't have been that much of a
deal-breaker for you if you still watched every episode of
Doctor Who since then and will sit down and watch the new season
when it airs this spring.. so clearly you lack understanding of
what the term deal-breaker actually means. (No surprise there
then!)
In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.
That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!
The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!
No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early
episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.
That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)
Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been snow-balled was it for me.
--
Not a joke! Don't jump!
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p1xkn44f6wvg006@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <vofqm5$1r2on$2@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
Isn't RTD pals with the person who came up with The
Timeless Child and unwilling to undo it?
Heance a new era is needed!
I really am going to have to dig-up those posts on RADW from
2023 where you was welcoming the return of RTD aren't I? Just
for old times sake.
I did say that because one hope someone could learn from past
mistakes.
Past mistakes? The first RTD era of the show was one of the most
popular times for Doctor Who as a TV show. Sure, it wasn't
perfect, but it was popular among the TV watching audience of
the day. We had an iconic Doctor (David Tennant), high ratings,
merch everywhere (etc.) If RTD and Bad Wolf could get Doctor Who
back to that level of popularity they'd be more than delighted.
And so would we!
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p1xkn44f6wvg006@post.eweka.nl>, Blueshirt
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <vofqm5$1r2on$2@dont-email.me>, Ubiquitous
<weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
Isn't RTD pals with the person who came up with The Timeless
Child and unwilling to undo it?
Heance a new era is needed!
I really am going to have to dig-up those posts on RADW from 2023
where you was welcoming the return of RTD aren't I? Just for old
times sake.
I did say that because one hope someone could learn from past
mistakes.
Past mistakes? The first RTD era of the show was one of the most
popular times for Doctor Who as a TV show.
Sure, it wasn't perfect, but it was popular among the TV watching
audience of the day. We had an iconic Doctor (David Tennant), high
ratings, merch everywhere (etc.) If RTD and Bad Wolf could get Doctor
Who back to that level of popularity they'd be more than delighted.
And so would we!
In article <xn0p1yqwt5jcd08000@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Jodie Whittaker's Doctor can't have been that much of a
deal-breaker for you if you still watched every episode of
Doctor Who since then and will sit down and watch the new
season when it airs this spring.. so clearly you lack
understanding of what the term deal-breaker actually means.
(No surprise there then!)
Point is I doubt Ncuti is a deal breaker like Jodie.
On 12/02/2025 11:38 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p1xkn44f6wvg006@post.eweka.nl>, Blueshirt
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <vofqm5$1r2on$2@dont-email.me>, Ubiquitous
<weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
Isn't RTD pals with the person who came up with The Timeless
Child and unwilling to undo it?
Heance a new era is needed!
I really am going to have to dig-up those posts on RADW from 2023
where you was welcoming the return of RTD aren't I? Just for old
times sake.
I did say that because one hope someone could learn from past
mistakes.
Past mistakes? The first RTD era of the show was one of the most
popular times for Doctor Who as a TV show.
And, given what RTD has, apparently, done to Disney 'Doctor Who', I'm >wondering if, maybe, RTD wanted to do something similar way back then,
and Christopher Eccelstion (SP??) might have walked out in PROTEST.
Sure, it wasn't perfect, but it was popular among the TV watchingCorrect!!
audience of the day. We had an iconic Doctor (David Tennant), high
ratings, merch everywhere (etc.) If RTD and Bad Wolf could get Doctor
Who back to that level of popularity they'd be more than delighted.
And so would we!
--
Daniel70
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p1yqwt5jcd08000@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Jodie Whittaker's Doctor can't have been that much of a
deal-breaker for you if you still watched every episode of
Doctor Who since then and will sit down and watch the new
season when it airs this spring.. so clearly you lack
understanding of what the term deal-breaker actually means.
(No surprise there then!)
Point is I doubt Ncuti is a deal breaker like Jodie.
It's quite possible that more people have switched off "Doctor
Who" during Ncuti Gatwa's tenure than during Jodie's era? I'm
sure our resident Professor of Literature and Statistics will
have the details on that. The forthcoming season's ratings will
tell a lot.
BUT, nobody could be the deal-breaker for you as you still watch
the show! So "Doctor Who" must be providing you with some sort
of entertainment to keep you engaged for all this time.
In article <xn0p1yrij5k7qds002@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
I did say that because one hope someone could learn from
past mistakes.
Past mistakes? The first RTD era of the show was one of the
most popular times for Doctor Who as a TV show. Sure, it
wasn't perfect, but it was very popular among the TV watching
audience of the day. We had an iconic Doctor (David
Tennant), high ratings, merch everywhere (etc.) If RTD and
Bad Wolf could get Doctor Who back to that level of
popularity they'd be more than delighted.
And so would we!
Past mistakes include the Time Wars and the Timeless Child!
On 12/02/2025 11:38 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
I did say that because one hope someone could learn from
past mistakes.
Past mistakes? The first RTD era of the show was one of the
most popular times for Doctor Who as a TV show.
And, given what RTD has, apparently, done to Disney 'Doctor
Who', I'm wondering if, maybe, RTD wanted to do something
similar way back then, and Christopher Eccelstion (SP??) might
have walked out in PROTEST.
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p1yrij5k7qds002@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
I did say that because one hope someone could learn from
past mistakes.
Past mistakes? The first RTD era of the show was one of the
most popular times for Doctor Who as a TV show. Sure, it
wasn't perfect, but it was very popular among the TV watching
audience of the day. We had an iconic Doctor (David
Tennant), high ratings, merch everywhere (etc.) If RTD and
Bad Wolf could get Doctor Who back to that level of
popularity they'd be more than delighted.
And so would we!
Past mistakes include the Time Wars and the Timeless Child!
Well, if we're playing that game I could say past mistakes
include destroying Gallifrey (again), humpback Daleks and the
Flux!
AGA would throw in the moon thing as well...
We could all find fault with something. So it's best just to go
forward and what's done is done. Plus, I don't think RTD cares
what the fans think anyway.
Daniel70 wrote:
On 12/02/2025 11:38 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
I did say that because one hope someone could learn from
past mistakes.
Past mistakes? The first RTD era of the show was one of the
most popular times for Doctor Who as a TV show.
And, given what RTD has, apparently, done to Disney 'Doctor
Who', I'm wondering if, maybe, RTD wanted to do something
similar way back then, and Christopher Eccelstion (SP??) might
have walked out in PROTEST.
Might being the operative word of course!
The story Christopher Eccleston gives has been widely shared in
recent years and it was more to do with him falling out with
Phil Collinson and Julie Gardner during a recording block, and
then RTD doubling-down by supporting his production team and
ignoring Eccleston's criticisms... so Eccleston did his job,
finished his scenes and said f*k you RTD.
Daniel70 wrote:
On 12/02/2025 11:38 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
I did say that because one hope someone could learn from
past mistakes.
Past mistakes? The first RTD era of the show was one of the
most popular times for Doctor Who as a TV show.
And, given what RTD has, apparently, done to Disney 'Doctor
Who', I'm wondering if, maybe, RTD wanted to do something
similar way back then, and Christopher Eccelstion (SP??) might
have walked out in PROTEST.
Might being the operative word of course!
The story Christopher Eccleston gives has been widely shared in
recent years and it was more to do with him falling out with
Phil Collinson and Julie Gardner during a recording block, and
then RTD doubling-down by supporting his production team and
ignoring Eccleston's criticisms... so Eccleston did his job,
finished his scenes and said fuck you RTD.
On 14/02/2025 2:37 am, Blueshirt wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:
And, given what RTD has, apparently, done to Disney 'Doctor
Who', I'm wondering if, maybe, RTD wanted to do something
similar way back then, and Christopher Eccelstion (SP??)
might have walked out in PROTEST.
Might being the operative word of course!
The story Christopher Eccleston gives has been widely shared
in recent years and it was more to do with him falling out
with Phil Collinson and Julie Gardner during a recording
block, and then RTD doubling-down by supporting his
production team and ignoring Eccleston's criticisms... so
Eccleston did his job, finished his scenes and said fuck you
RTD.
Ah, well ......!
On 14/02/2025 2:37 am, Blueshirt wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:Ah, well ......!
On 12/02/2025 11:38 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
I did say that because one hope someone could learn from
past mistakes.
Past mistakes? The first RTD era of the show was one of the
most popular times for Doctor Who as a TV show.
And, given what RTD has, apparently, done to Disney 'Doctor
Who', I'm wondering if, maybe, RTD wanted to do something
similar way back then, and Christopher Eccelstion (SP??) might
have walked out in PROTEST.
Might being the operative word of course!
The story Christopher Eccleston gives has been widely shared in
recent years and it was more to do with him falling out with
Phil Collinson and Julie Gardner during a recording block, and
then RTD doubling-down by supporting his production team and
ignoring Eccleston's criticisms... so Eccleston did his job,
finished his scenes and said f*k you RTD.
--
Daniel70
Daniel70 wrote:
On 14/02/2025 2:37 am, Blueshirt wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:Ah, well ......!
And, given what RTD has, apparently, done to Disney 'Doctor
Who', I'm wondering if, maybe, RTD wanted to do something
similar way back then, and Christopher Eccelstion (SP??)
might have walked out in PROTEST.
Might being the operative word of course!
The story Christopher Eccleston gives has been widely shared
in recent years and it was more to do with him falling out
with Phil Collinson and Julie Gardner during a recording
block, and then RTD doubling-down by supporting his
production team and ignoring Eccleston's criticisms... so
Eccleston did his job, finished his scenes and said f*k you
RTD.
Well, I wasn't actually there... so Christopher Eccleston could
have been making it up! ;-)
On 12/02/2025 09:30, Ubiquitous wrote:
In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.
That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!
The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!
No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early
episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.
That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)
I believe the previous poster was referring to Pat Troughton dressing up as
a washerwoman in The Highlanders, though it's possible they even meant Bill Hartnell in a toga in The Romans. Jon Pertwee also dressed as a female cleaner in The Green Death, though I think we're getting a bit past "one of the early episodes" by that point.
In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.
That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!
The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!
No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early
episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.
That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)
Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been snow-balled was it for me.
On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 4:30:43 -0500, Ubiquitous
<weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been
snow-balled was it for me.
What's wrong with that?
On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 4:30:43 -0500, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
wrote:
In article <voi356$2ai7v$3@dont-email.me>, wrote:
In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.
That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!
The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!
No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early
episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.
That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)
Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been snow-balled was it for me.
What's wrong with that?
NoBody wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 4:30:43 -0500, Ubiquitous
<weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been
snow-balled was it for me.
What's wrong with that?
Filth!
Our mate Aggy would say the 15th Doctor using sexual innuendos
like that backs up his claim that RTD is a sexual pervert and he
is using "Doctor Who" to sexually groom people...
In article <voilob$2e4c4$1@dont-email.me>, mike@xenocyte.com wrote:
On 12/02/2025 09:30, Ubiquitous wrote:
In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.
That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!
The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!
No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early >>>> episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.
That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)
I believe the previous poster was referring to Pat Troughton dressing up as >> a washerwoman in The Highlanders, though it's possible they even meant Bill >> Hartnell in a toga in The Romans. Jon Pertwee also dressed as a female
cleaner in The Green Death, though I think we're getting a bit past "one of >> the early episodes" by that point.
No, he was talking about one of the first scenes of the first eps
with Ncuti dancing at a bar.
https://youtu.be/WkTjZ0CIIM0
--
Not a joke! Don't jump!
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <voi356$2ai7v$3@dont-email.me>, wrote:
In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.
That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!
The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!
No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early
episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.
That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)
Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been snow-balled was it for >>me.
What's wrong with that?
NoBody@nowhere.com wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <voi356$2ai7v$3@dont-email.me>, wrote:
In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.
That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!
The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!
No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early >>>> episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.
That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)
Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been snow-balled was it for >>>me.
What's wrong with that?
It's a gay sex act involving cum.
NoBody@nowhere.com wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <voi356$2ai7v$3@dont-email.me>, wrote:
In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.
That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!
The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!
No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early >>>> episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.
That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)
Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been snow-balled was it for >>>me.
What's wrong with that?
It's a gay sex act involving cum.
john@hamiltonhall.info wrote:
NoBody@nowhere.com wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <voi356$2ai7v$3@dont-email.me>, wrote:
In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote: >>>>>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.
That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!
The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!
No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early >>>>> episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.
That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)
Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been snow-balled was it for >>>>me.
What's wrong with that?
It's a gay sex act involving cum.
eeew!!
NoBody@nowhere.com wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <voi356$2ai7v$3@dont-email.me>, wrote:
atropos@mac.com wrote:
"The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.
That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!
The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!
No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early >>>> episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.
That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)
Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been snow-balled was it for >>>me.
What's wrong with that?
It's a gay sex act involving cum.
john@hamiltonhall.info wrote:
NoBody@nowhere.com wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <voi356$2ai7v$3@dont-email.me>, wrote:
atropos@mac.com wrote:
"The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.
That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!
The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!
No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early >>>>> episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.
That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)
Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been snow-balled was it for >>>>me.
What's wrong with that?
It's a gay sex act involving cum.
Yeah, a definite TMI moment.
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