Anybody Got a filter for all this stupid political and
religious arguments going on? I just want to come in here and
read about the good doctor. not all the constant in bickering
and asinine shit. thankz in advance.
Fair enough.
So let's go;
Who is you favourite Doctor and what are your favourite
episodes? Do you like all of "Doctor Who" since 1963 or just a
specific era of the show?
Are you looking forward to the new season coming in April?
james moffat wrote:
Anybody Got a filter for all this stupid political and
religious arguments going on? I just want to come in here and
read about the good doctor. not all the constant in bickering
and asinine shit. thankz in advance.
Fair enough.
So let's go;
OK We are off
Who is you favourite Doctor and what are your favourite
episodes? Do you like all of "Doctor Who" since 1963 or just a
specific era of the show?
First and favorite Doctor for me was Tom Baker.
I have no particular favorite episodes. There have always been some
good and some not so good episodes throughout the series.
I have enjoyed the good Doctor ever since discovering him on PBS in
the early 70's I believe.
Are you looking forward to the new season coming in April?
Like any addiction I am looking forward to the next series, but with
some trepidation. For me the last couple of seasons have had a slight
..... Incomplete feeling to them. They are visually good most are well >written , but there is no .... they feel like they are missing
something. Like there is supposed to be a story in the background that
never gets finished. It might be the modern writing style but I never
feel satisfied with the way it goes.
Me
In article <k74psjdoigu9b97vtjmuvttg02j5oe88i5@4ax.com>,
james moffat <spam.spam@distributel.net> wrote:
james moffat wrote:
Anybody Got a filter for all this stupid political and
religious arguments going on? I just want to come in here and
read about the good doctor. not all the constant in bickering
and asinine shit. thankz in advance.
Fair enough.
So let's go;
OK We are off
Who is you favourite Doctor and what are your favourite
episodes? Do you like all of "Doctor Who" since 1963 or just a
specific era of the show?
First and favorite Doctor for me was Tom Baker.
I have no particular favorite episodes. There have always been some
good and some not so good episodes throughout the series.
I have enjoyed the good Doctor ever since discovering him on PBS in
the early 70's I believe.
early 1970's?
Are you looking forward to the new season coming in April?
Like any addiction I am looking forward to the next series, but with
some trepidation. For me the last couple of seasons have had a slight >>..... Incomplete feeling to them. They are visually good most are well >>written , but there is no .... they feel like they are missing
something. Like there is supposed to be a story in the background that >>never gets finished. It might be the modern writing style but I never
feel satisfied with the way it goes.
Me
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 23:01:52 -0000 (UTC), doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The >Doctor) wrote:
In article <k74psjdoigu9b97vtjmuvttg02j5oe88i5@4ax.com>,
james moffat <spam.spam@distributel.net> wrote:
james moffat wrote:
Anybody Got a filter for all this stupid political and
religious arguments going on? I just want to come in here and
read about the good doctor. not all the constant in bickering
and asinine shit. thankz in advance.
Fair enough.
So let's go;
OK We are off
Who is you favourite Doctor and what are your favourite
episodes? Do you like all of "Doctor Who" since 1963 or just a
specific era of the show?
First and favorite Doctor for me was Tom Baker.
I have no particular favorite episodes. There have always been some
good and some not so good episodes throughout the series.
I have enjoyed the good Doctor ever since discovering him on PBS in
the early 70's I believe.
early 1970's?
Yes..... I consider anything before 75 to be early and he started in
74. I also qualified the date with an "I believe" Which means that it
may not be an accurate date, but as close as I can remember.
The latest date that it could possibly be of my seeing it would have
been 1977 as we moved from that house in 1978 and I remember at least
two if not 3 seasons of watching it on TV prior to moving.
ME
Are you looking forward to the new season coming in April?
Like any addiction I am looking forward to the next series, but with
some trepidation. For me the last couple of seasons have had a slight >>>..... Incomplete feeling to them. They are visually good most are well >>>written , but there is no .... they feel like they are missing >>>something. Like there is supposed to be a story in the background that >>>never gets finished. It might be the modern writing style but I never >>>feel satisfied with the way it goes.
Me
Blueshit <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Who is you favourite Doctor and what are your favourite
episodes? Do you like all of "Doctor Who" since 1963 or
just a specific era of the show?
First and favorite Doctor for me was Tom Baker.
I have no particular favorite episodes. There have always been
some good and some not so good episodes throughout the series.
I have enjoyed the good Doctor ever since discovering him on
PBS in the early 70's I believe.
Are you looking forward to the new season coming in April?
Like any addiction I am looking forward to the next series,
but with some trepidation.
For me the last couple of seasons have had a slight ...
Incomplete feeling to them. They are visually good most
are well written , but there is no.... they feel like they
are missing something. Like there is supposed to be a story
in the background that never gets finished. It might be the
modern writing style but I never feel satisfied with the way
it goes.
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 23:01:52 -0000 (UTC),
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
In article <k74psjdoigu9b97vtjmuvttg02j5oe88i5@4ax.com>,
james moffat <spam.spam@distributel.net> wrote:
First and favorite Doctor for me was Tom Baker.
I have no particular favorite episodes. There have always
been some good and some not so good episodes throughout
the series. I have enjoyed the good Doctor ever since
discovering him on PBS in the early 70's I believe.
early 1970's?
Yes..... I consider anything before 75 to be early and he
started in 74.
In article <q2hqsjt4ii44d5ievbln3h4sqnkuopspjh@4ax.com>,
james moffat <spam.spam@distributel.net> wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 23:01:52 -0000 (UTC), doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The >>Doctor) wrote:
In article <k74psjdoigu9b97vtjmuvttg02j5oe88i5@4ax.com>,
james moffat <spam.spam@distributel.net> wrote:
james moffat wrote:
Anybody Got a filter for all this stupid political and
religious arguments going on? I just want to come in here and
read about the good doctor. not all the constant in bickering
and asinine shit. thankz in advance.
Fair enough.
So let's go;
OK We are off
Who is you favourite Doctor and what are your favourite
episodes? Do you like all of "Doctor Who" since 1963 or just a
specific era of the show?
First and favorite Doctor for me was Tom Baker.
I have no particular favorite episodes. There have always been some >>>>good and some not so good episodes throughout the series.
I have enjoyed the good Doctor ever since discovering him on PBS in
the early 70's I believe.
early 1970's?
Yes..... I consider anything before 75 to be early and he started in
74. I also qualified the date with an "I believe" Which means that it
may not be an accurate date, but as close as I can remember.
The latest date that it could possibly be of my seeing it would have
been 1977 as we moved from that house in 1978 and I remember at least
two if not 3 seasons of watching it on TV prior to moving.
ME
What surprises me is that if 1975, why so many missing episodes?
james moffat wrote:
Blueshit <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Who is you favourite Doctor and what are your favourite
episodes? Do you like all of "Doctor Who" since 1963 or
just a specific era of the show?
First and favorite Doctor for me was Tom Baker.
A popular choice. My favourite Doctor is Jon Pertwee, followed
by Tom Baker. I started watching Doctor Who in 1972 so the
third Doctor was MY Doctor.
I have no particular favorite episodes. There have always been
some good and some not so good episodes throughout the series.
Of course. That has always been the case, as it is today. Which
is only to be expected with any TV series running for that
length of time.
My favourite Doctor Who episodes tend to be Third Doctor stories
like; "The Sea Devils", "The Daemons", "Inferno", "The Three
Doctors", "Curse of Peladon", The Time Warrior" (Etc.) as well
as Dalek stories... like "Planet of the Daleks" and "Genesis of
the Daleks"... In fact I could make a long list of favourite
episodes from the 1970's stories featuring the 3rd and 4th
Doctors.
I have enjoyed the good Doctor ever since discovering him on
PBS in the early 70's I believe.
The 1970's were the best... IMO of course.
Are you looking forward to the new season coming in April?
Like any addiction I am looking forward to the next series,
but with some trepidation.
That about sums it up alright!
For me the last couple of seasons have had a slight ...
Incomplete feeling to them. They are visually good most
are well written , but there is no.... they feel like they
are missing something. Like there is supposed to be a story
in the background that never gets finished. It might be the
modern writing style but I never feel satisfied with the way
it goes.
Yeah, it's modern writing... and that feeling of "satisfaction"
isn't really there with Doctor Who for me these days either. I
always look forward to new episodes but there's often a flat
feeling left after watching some episodes.
It could be that we're just getting old though... ;-)
james moffat wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 23:01:52 -0000 (UTC),
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
In article <k74psjdoigu9b97vtjmuvttg02j5oe88i5@4ax.com>,
james moffat <spam.spam@distributel.net> wrote:
First and favorite Doctor for me was Tom Baker.
I have no particular favorite episodes. There have always
been some good and some not so good episodes throughout
the series. I have enjoyed the good Doctor ever since
discovering him on PBS in the early 70's I believe.
early 1970's?
Yes..... I consider anything before 75 to be early and he
started in 74.
Yes, Tom Baker took over in 1974 and it was the Fourth Doctor's
era of the show that were the first sold to TV stations in the
USA.
Unfortunately people in the US missed out on seeing the great
Jon Pertwee in action.
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 11:22:28 -0000 (UTC), doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The >Doctor) wrote:
In article <q2hqsjt4ii44d5ievbln3h4sqnkuopspjh@4ax.com>,None of the Tom Bakers are missing . The missing episodes are from the
james moffat <spam.spam@distributel.net> wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 23:01:52 -0000 (UTC), doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The >>>Doctor) wrote:
In article <k74psjdoigu9b97vtjmuvttg02j5oe88i5@4ax.com>,
james moffat <spam.spam@distributel.net> wrote:
james moffat wrote:
Anybody Got a filter for all this stupid political and
religious arguments going on? I just want to come in here and
read about the good doctor. not all the constant in bickering
and asinine shit. thankz in advance.
Fair enough.
So let's go;
OK We are off
Who is you favourite Doctor and what are your favourite
episodes? Do you like all of "Doctor Who" since 1963 or just a
specific era of the show?
First and favorite Doctor for me was Tom Baker.
I have no particular favorite episodes. There have always been some >>>>>good and some not so good episodes throughout the series.
I have enjoyed the good Doctor ever since discovering him on PBS in >>>>>the early 70's I believe.
early 1970's?
Yes..... I consider anything before 75 to be early and he started in
74. I also qualified the date with an "I believe" Which means that it
may not be an accurate date, but as close as I can remember.
The latest date that it could possibly be of my seeing it would have >>>been 1977 as we moved from that house in 1978 and I remember at least
two if not 3 seasons of watching it on TV prior to moving.
ME
What surprises me is that if 1975, why so many missing episodes?
first 3 doctors of the 60's, and were caused by the practice at the
time of after the broadcast the tapes they were recorded on were
reused for other shows to save money. So the original recordings were
lost.
ME
In article <f2krsj1tbjel9rfc61k5n64tm62lq9155o@4ax.com>,
james moffat <spam.spam@distributel.net> wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 11:22:28 -0000 (UTC),
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
What surprises me is that if 1975, why so many missing
episodes?
None of the Tom Bakers are missing . The missing episodes
are from the first 3 doctors of the 60's, and were caused by
the practice at the time of after the broadcast the tapes
they were recorded on were reused for other shows to save
money. So the original recordings were lost.
ME
by the 1980s all Pertwee was recovered.
In article <xn0p33ia4gwla0w001@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
james moffat wrote:
For me the last couple of seasons have had a slight ...
Incomplete feeling to them. They are visually good most
are well written , but there is no.... they feel like they
are missing something. Like there is supposed to be a story
in the background that never gets finished. It might be the
modern writing style but I never feel satisfied with the
way it goes.
Yeah, it's modern writing... and that feeling of
"satisfaction" isn't really there with Doctor Who for me
these days either. I always look forward to new episodes but
there's often a flat feeling left after watching some
of them.
It could be that we're just getting old though... ;-)
For DW 1963-2017 and 2022 -
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 11:22:28 -0000 (UTC),
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
What surprises me is that if 1975, why so many missing
episodes?
None of the Tom Bakers are missing . The missing episodes are
from the first 3 doctors of the 60's,
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p33ia4gwla0w001@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
james moffat wrote:
For me the last couple of seasons have had a slight ...
Incomplete feeling to them. They are visually good most
are well written , but there is no.... they feel like they
are missing something. Like there is supposed to be a story
in the background that never gets finished. It might be the
modern writing style but I never feel satisfied with the
way it goes.
Yeah, it's modern writing... and that feeling of
"satisfaction" isn't really there with Doctor Who for me
these days either. I always look forward to new episodes but
there's often a flat feeling left after watching some
of them.
It could be that we're just getting old though... ;-)
For DW 1963-2017 and 2022 -
There is no Doctor Who 1963-2017 ... using the BBC iPlayer as a
reference it goes;
Doctor Who 1963 - 1996
Doctor Who 2005 - 2022
Doctor Who (2023+)
It is all one show but if the BBC like to separate the
Whoniverse in to distinctive eras, then who are we to argue?
They certainly don't tend to believe the show finished in 2017
anyway!
james moffat wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 11:22:28 -0000 (UTC),
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
None of the Tom Bakers are missing . The missing episodes are
What surprises me is that if 1975, why so many missing
episodes?
from the first 3 doctors of the 60's,
The missing episodes are from the first two Doctors... every
Doctor Who season from the 3rd Doctor onwards is complete and in
the BBC archive. No Doctor Who episodes are missing from the
colour era of the show.
In article <xn0p33vzwzunj000@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
For DW 1963-2017 and 2022 -
There is no Doctor Who 1963-2017 ... using the BBC iPlayer
as a reference it goes;
Doctor Who 1963 - 1996
Doctor Who 2005 - 2022
Doctor Who (2023+)
It is all one show but if the BBC like to separate the
Whoniverse in to distinctive eras, then who are we to argue?
They certainly don't tend to believe the show finished in
2017 anyway!
What DW was seen in 2018 to 2022? NONE!!!
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p33vzwzunj000@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
For DW 1963-2017 and 2022 -
There is no Doctor Who 1963-2017 ... using the BBC iPlayer
as a reference it goes;
Doctor Who 1963 - 1996
Doctor Who 2005 - 2022
Doctor Who (2023+)
It is all one show but if the BBC like to separate the
Whoniverse in to distinctive eras, then who are we to argue?
They certainly don't tend to believe the show finished in
2017 anyway!
What DW was seen in 2018 to 2022? NONE!!!
And THAT is why you are commonly referred to as the "village
idiot" here and new visitors to RADW pop in for a bit and then
disappear again...
In article <xn0p33wjk1s7jp002@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
by the 1980s all Pertwee was recovered.
THAT was a great result!
Imagine if those 3rd Doctor episodes had stayed missing and
people were deprived of seeing the dashing Mr Pertwee in
action. <shiver> ... That doesn't bear thinking about.
Now to get the rest of the 1960s DW!
In article <xn0p33wng1xvjw003@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
james moffat wrote:
None of the Tom Bakers are missing . The missing episodes
are from the first 3 doctors of the 60's,
The missing episodes are from the first two Doctors... every
Doctor Who season from the 3rd Doctor onwards is complete
and in the BBC archive. No Doctor Who episodes are missing
from the colour era of the show.
1970s to 1980s some 3rd Docotr episodes were not available.
In article <xn0p34znq11nm4a000@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p33vzwzunj000@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
For DW 1963-2017 and 2022 -
There is no Doctor Who 1963-2017 ... using the BBC iPlayer
as a reference it goes;
Doctor Who 1963 - 1996
Doctor Who 2005 - 2022
Doctor Who (2023+)
It is all one show but if the BBC like to separate the
Whoniverse in to distinctive eras, then who are we to
argue?
They certainly don't tend to believe the show finished in
2017 anyway!
What DW was seen in 2018 to 2022? NONE!!!
And THAT is why you are commonly referred to as the "village
idiot" here and new visitors to RADW pop in for a bit and
then disappear again...
You must be a anti-Doctor-Who Timelss Child fan.
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p33wjk1s7jp002@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
by the 1980s all Pertwee was recovered.
THAT was a great result!
Imagine if those 3rd Doctor episodes had stayed missing and
people were deprived of seeing the dashing Mr Pertwee in
action. <shiver> ... That doesn't bear thinking about.
Now to get the rest of the 1960s DW!
What hasn't been returned/found will probably never be returned
at this stage. Maybe one or two episodes might surface (or
re-surface even) but it's highly unlikely that all of the 97
Doctor Who episodes that are currently 'missing' will be
returned to the BBC.
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p33wng1xvjw003@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
james moffat wrote:
None of the Tom Bakers are missing . The missing episodes
are from the first 3 doctors of the 60's,
The missing episodes are from the first two Doctors... every
Doctor Who season from the 3rd Doctor onwards is complete
and in the BBC archive. No Doctor Who episodes are missing
from the colour era of the show.
1970s to 1980s some 3rd Docotr episodes were not available.
Yes, I know... and funnily enough, I believe they were found in
Canada...
You didn't have those tapes in your basement by any chance did
you?
In article <xn0p3510h13gzr7001@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p33wjk1s7jp002@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Imagine if those 3rd Doctor episodes had stayed missing
and people were deprived of seeing the dashing Mr Pertwee
in action. <shiver> ... That doesn't bear thinking about.
Now to get the rest of the 1960s DW!
What hasn't been returned/found will probably never be
returned at this stage. Maybe one or two episodes might
surface (or re-surface even) but it's highly unlikely that
all of the 97 Doctor Who episodes that are currently
'missing' will be returned to the BBC.
I am ever the optimist!
In article <xn0p3519y13ur5e002@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
You must be a anti-Doctor-Who Timelss Child fan.
No Dave, I am a Doctor Who fan. Plus, I am not delusional.
So I don't pretend that the parts of a TV show that I don't
like don't exist, then project that viewpoint on to others
as if it was factual. That is stupid and childish.
You must love your fights with AGAmemnon.
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p3519y13ur5e002@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
You must be a anti-Doctor-Who Timelss Child fan.
No Dave, I am a Doctor Who fan. Plus, I am not delusional.
So I don't pretend that the parts of a TV show that I don't
like don't exist, then project that viewpoint on to others
as if it was factual. That is stupid and childish.
You must love your fights with AGAmemnon.
They are not fights they are discussions, and I will say again,
at least AGA discusses things. He doesn't spam this group with
bible quotes! When Agamemnon is not being abusive I find his
posts interesting and I have no problem engaging with him.
A bit of back and forth is what Usenet was designed for. It
wasn't created for one voice to be the gospel and everyone else
agree with that position. That sort of thing makes for a boring
discussion. We don't all have to agree with one another here,
it's not a crime to disagree. Maybe you should try discussing
Doctor Who a bit more and stop the repetitive inane one-line
nonsense?
In article <xn0p352s915w6hz006@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
A bit of back and forth is what Usenet was designed for. It
wasn't created for one voice to be the gospel and everyone
else agree with that position. That sort of thing makes for
a boring discussion. We don't all have to agree with one
another here, it's not a crime to disagree. Maybe you should
try discussing Doctor Who a bit more and stop the repetitive
inane one-line nonsense?
What about asking for sources?
BTW I doubt you will accept Noel Glynn here.
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p352lg15m9q8005@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p3510h13gzr7001@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
What hasn't been returned/found will probably never be
returned at this stage. Maybe one or two episodes might
surface (or re-surface even) but it's highly unlikely that
all of the 97 Doctor Who episodes that are currently
'missing' will be returned to the BBC.
I am ever the optimist!
Well, we are all optimistic to some degree Dave, but with 97
episodes of Doctor Who missing for over fifty years it's
logical to assume that most of them will never turn up...
Maybe in the future AI can reconstruct them?
We shall see.
Or maybe we won't, if no more episodes are ever recovered.
And when AI gets to the stage that it can reconstruct
missing Doctor Who episodes faithfully we probably won't be
around to see that either.
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p352lg15m9q8005@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p3510h13gzr7001@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
What hasn't been returned/found will probably never be
returned at this stage. Maybe one or two episodes might
surface (or re-surface even) but it's highly unlikely that
all of the 97 Doctor Who episodes that are currently
'missing' will be returned to the BBC.
I am ever the optimist!
Well, we are all optimistic to some degree Dave, but with 97
episodes of Doctor Who missing for over fifty years it's
logical to assume that most of them will never turn up...
Maybe in the future AI can reconstruct them?
We shall see.
Or maybe we won't, if no more episodes are ever recovered.
And when AI gets to the stage that it can reconstruct
missing Doctor Who episodes faithfully we probably won't be
around to see that either.
On 11/03/2025 14:11, Blueshirt wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p352lg15m9q8005@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p3510h13gzr7001@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
What hasn't been returned/found will probably never be
returned at this stage. Maybe one or two episodes might
surface (or re-surface even) but it's highly unlikely that
all of the 97 Doctor Who episodes that are currently
'missing' will be returned to the BBC.
I am ever the optimist!
Well, we are all optimistic to some degree Dave, but with 97
episodes of Doctor Who missing for over fifty years it's
logical to assume that most of them will never turn up...
Maybe in the future AI can reconstruct them?
We shall see.
Or maybe we won't, if no more episodes are ever recovered.
And when AI gets to the stage that it can reconstruct
missing Doctor Who episodes faithfully we probably won't be
around to see that either.
Actually some pretty good deepfake work is available already. If someone was
to layer that over the Ian Levine AI reconstructions - which try to be very faithful to the original scenes in terms of action and positioning , but suffer from varying levels of poor facial animation and Mr Benn style
bodily movements, it could be sooner than you think. (Levine's had over 90
of the missing episodes done now, to varying levels of failure - can see it being "complete" by summer if his begging bowl gets filled).
--
There’s no point in being grown up if you can’t act a little childish
sometimes.
On 11/03/2025 14:11, Blueshirt wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p352lg15m9q8005@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Well, we are all optimistic to some degree Dave, but
with 97 episodes of Doctor Who missing for over fifty
years it's logical to assume that most of them will never
turn up... Maybe in the future AI can reconstruct them?
We shall see.
Or maybe we won't, if no more episodes are ever recovered.
And when AI gets to the stage that it can reconstruct
missing Doctor Who episodes faithfully we probably won't be
around to see that either.
Actually some pretty good deepfake work is available already.
If someone was to layer that over the Ian Levine AI
reconstructions - which try to be very faithful to the
original scenes in terms of action and positioning , but
suffer from varying levels of poor facial animation and Mr
Benn style bodily movements, it could be sooner than you
think. (Levine's had over 90 of the missing episodes done now,
to varying levels of failure - can see it being "complete" by
summer if his begging bowl gets filled).
What surprises me is that if 1975, why so many missing episodes?None of the Tom Bakers are missing . The missing episodes are from the >>first 3 doctors of the 60's, and were caused by the practice at the
time of after the broadcast the tapes they were recorded on were
reused for other shows to save money. So the original recordings were
lost.
ME
by the 1980s all Pertwee was recovered.
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 18:37:06 -0000 (UTC),
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
What surprises me is that if 1975, why so many missing
episodes?
None of the Tom Bakers are missing . The missing episodes
are from the first 3 doctors of the 60's, and were caused
by the practice at the time of after the broadcast the
tapes they were recorded on were reused for other shows to
save money. So the original recordings were lost.
by the 1980s all Pertwee was recovered.
Yes and many thanks to Canadian broadcasting corporation for
keeping a lot of those on hand so we can see them today.
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 18:37:06 -0000 (UTC), doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The >Doctor) wrote:
What surprises me is that if 1975, why so many missing episodes?None of the Tom Bakers are missing . The missing episodes are from the >>>first 3 doctors of the 60's, and were caused by the practice at the
time of after the broadcast the tapes they were recorded on were
reused for other shows to save money. So the original recordings were >>>lost.
ME
by the 1980s all Pertwee was recovered.
Yes and many thanks to Canadian broadcasting corporation for keeping a
lot of those on hand so we can see them today.
ME
james moffat wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 18:37:06 -0000 (UTC),
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
What surprises me is that if 1975, why so many missingNone of the Tom Bakers are missing . The missing episodes
episodes?
are from the first 3 doctors of the 60's, and were caused
by the practice at the time of after the broadcast the
tapes they were recorded on were reused for other shows to
save money. So the original recordings were lost.
by the 1980s all Pertwee was recovered.
Yes and many thanks to Canadian broadcasting corporation for
keeping a lot of those on hand so we can see them today.
Off the top of my head I'm not sure it was CBC but there were
Third Doctor episodes found in Canada alright... the copies
found were black and white too, meaning they had to be converted
to colour once the BBC had them back. So we also owe a debt of
thanks to the people who restored those episodes to their
original - or as near as - condition too.
The Last Doctor wrote:
On 11/03/2025 14:11, Blueshirt wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p352lg15m9q8005@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Well, we are all optimistic to some degree Dave, but
with 97 episodes of Doctor Who missing for over fifty
years it's logical to assume that most of them will never
turn up... Maybe in the future AI can reconstruct them?
We shall see.
Or maybe we won't, if no more episodes are ever recovered.
And when AI gets to the stage that it can reconstruct
missing Doctor Who episodes faithfully we probably won't be
around to see that either.
Actually some pretty good deepfake work is available already.
If someone was to layer that over the Ian Levine AI
reconstructions - which try to be very faithful to the
original scenes in terms of action and positioning , but
suffer from varying levels of poor facial animation and Mr
Benn style bodily movements, it could be sooner than you
think. (Levine's had over 90 of the missing episodes done now,
to varying levels of failure - can see it being "complete" by
summer if his begging bowl gets filled).
I've seen some of Levine's efforts, but they do leave a lot to
be desired... at the moment anyway. Obviously technology is
moving forward all the time so it will improve. Look what's
happened technology wise in the last twenty years to the
world... AI is everywhere, the world live on their smart-phones,
driver-less cars, and loads of other amazing advances. So I'm
sure the day will come when the missing "Doctor Who" episodes do
get reconstructed by AI and look [very much] like the real thing.
Whether I am here to see them though is another matter...
james moffat wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 18:37:06 -0000 (UTC),
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
What surprises me is that if 1975, why so many missingNone of the Tom Bakers are missing . The missing episodes
episodes?
are from the first 3 doctors of the 60's, and were caused
by the practice at the time of after the broadcast the
tapes they were recorded on were reused for other shows to
save money. So the original recordings were lost.
by the 1980s all Pertwee was recovered.
Yes and many thanks to Canadian broadcasting corporation for
keeping a lot of those on hand so we can see them today.
Off the top of my head I'm not sure it was CBC but there were
Third Doctor episodes found in Canada alright... the copies
found were black and white too, meaning they had to be converted
to colour once the BBC had them back. So we also owe a debt of
thanks to the people who restored those episodes to their
original - or as near as - condition too.
On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 21:14:05 +0000, Blueshirt wrote:
james moffat wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 18:37:06 -0000 (UTC),
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
What surprises me is that if 1975, why so many missingNone of the Tom Bakers are missing . The missing episodes
episodes?
are from the first 3 doctors of the 60's, and were caused
by the practice at the time of after the broadcast the
tapes they were recorded on were reused for other shows to
save money. So the original recordings were lost.
by the 1980s all Pertwee was recovered.
Yes and many thanks to Canadian broadcasting corporation
for keeping a lot of those on hand so we can see them
today.
Off the top of my head I'm not sure it was CBC but there were
Third Doctor episodes found in Canada alright... the copies
found were black and white too, meaning they had to be
converted to colour once the BBC had them back. So we also
owe a debt of thanks to the people who restored those
episodes to their original - or as near as - condition too.
Some of those re-colorised Pertwee episodes look rough on the
DVD discs - you would know they had been converted from copies.
In article <xn0p36ilk2mzr40001@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
I've seen some of Levine's efforts, but they do leave a lot
to be desired... at the moment anyway. Obviously technology
is moving forward all the time so it will improve. Look
what's happened technology wise in the last twenty years to
the world... AI is everywhere, the world live on their
smart-phones, driver-less cars, and loads of other amazing
advances. So I'm sure the day will come when the missing
"Doctor Who" episodes do get reconstructed by AI and look
[very much] like the real thing.
Whether I am here to see them though is another matter...
Just be patient.
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p36ilk2mzr40001@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
I've seen some of Levine's efforts, but they do leave a lot
to be desired... at the moment anyway. Obviously technology
is moving forward all the time so it will improve. Look
what's happened technology wise in the last twenty years to
the world... AI is everywhere, the world live on their
smart-phones, driver-less cars, and loads of other amazing
advances. So I'm sure the day will come when the missing
"Doctor Who" episodes do get reconstructed by AI and look
[very much] like the real thing.
Whether I am here to see them though is another matter...
Just be patient.
I'm 59 Dave, I don't have decades to be waiting!
My plan is to live forever and so far so good... But, you justDaniel70
can't rely on anything these days, can yer?
--
On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 21:14:05 +0000, Blueshirt wrote:
james moffat wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 18:37:06 -0000 (UTC),
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
What surprises me is that if 1975, why so many missingNone of the Tom Bakers are missing . The missing episodes
episodes?
are from the first 3 doctors of the 60's, and were caused
by the practice at the time of after the broadcast the
tapes they were recorded on were reused for other shows to
save money. So the original recordings were lost.
by the 1980s all Pertwee was recovered.
Yes and many thanks to Canadian broadcasting corporation for
keeping a lot of those on hand so we can see them today.
Off the top of my head I'm not sure it was CBC but there were
Third Doctor episodes found in Canada alright... the copies
found were black and white too, meaning they had to be converted
to colour once the BBC had them back. So we also owe a debt of
thanks to the people who restored those episodes to their
original - or as near as - condition too.
Some of those re-colorised Pertwee episodes look rough on the DVD discs
- you would know they had been converted from copies.
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https://www.theory11.com/
Theory11 wrote:
On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 21:14:05 +0000, Blueshirt wrote:
james moffat wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 18:37:06 -0000 (UTC),
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
What surprises me is that if 1975, why so many missingNone of the Tom Bakers are missing . The missing episodes
episodes?
are from the first 3 doctors of the 60's, and were caused
by the practice at the time of after the broadcast the
tapes they were recorded on were reused for other shows to
save money. So the original recordings were lost.
by the 1980s all Pertwee was recovered.
Yes and many thanks to Canadian broadcasting corporation
for keeping a lot of those on hand so we can see them
today.
Off the top of my head I'm not sure it was CBC but there were
Third Doctor episodes found in Canada alright... the copies
found were black and white too, meaning they had to be
converted to colour once the BBC had them back. So we also
owe a debt of thanks to the people who restored those
episodes to their original - or as near as - condition too.
Some of those re-colorised Pertwee episodes look rough on the
DVD discs - you would know they had been converted from copies.
They look even rougher on the "Doctor Who Collection" Blu-Ray's!
Blu-Ray is a great format for having a whole season of "Doctor
Who" on one release, with all the extras, commentaries,
galleries and stuff... but not so great for viewing old TV shows
from the 1970's. The Blu-Ray's (coupled with our modern large
screen TV's) just magnify the poor picture quality.
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p36ilk2mzr40001@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
I've seen some of Levine's efforts, but they do leave a lot
to be desired... at the moment anyway. Obviously technology
is moving forward all the time so it will improve. Look
what's happened technology wise in the last twenty years to
the world... AI is everywhere, the world live on their
smart-phones, driver-less cars, and loads of other amazing
advances. So I'm sure the day will come when the missing
"Doctor Who" episodes do get reconstructed by AI and look
[very much] like the real thing.
Whether I am here to see them though is another matter...
Just be patient.
I'm 59 Dave, I don't have decades to be waiting!
My plan is to live forever and so far so good... But, you just
can't rely on anything these days, can yer?
On 12/03/2025 9:35 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p36ilk2mzr40001@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
I've seen some of Levine's efforts, but they do leave a lot
to be desired... at the moment anyway. Obviously technology
is moving forward all the time so it will improve. Look
what's happened technology wise in the last twenty years to
the world... AI is everywhere, the world live on their
smart-phones, driver-less cars, and loads of other amazing
advances. So I'm sure the day will come when the missing
"Doctor Who" episodes do get reconstructed by AI and look
[very much] like the real thing.
Whether I am here to see them though is another matter...
Just be patient.
I'm 59 Dave, I don't have decades to be waiting!
PUP!! ;-P
My plan is to live forever and so far so good... But, you justDaniel70
can't rely on anything these days, can yer?
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