• S2.1 - THE ROBOT REVOLUTION

    From Theory11@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 12 14:54:48 2025
    SEASON 2 - EPISODE 1 - THE ROBOT REVOLUTION

    Better than SPACE BABIES is the best I can say about this episode.

    The storyline of THE ROBOT REVOLUTION can be quite perplexing. The
    temporal mechanics involving Belinda and Alan are difficult to grasp.
    This is a common trait in Russell T Davies' storytelling, where the
    concepts often overshadow the structural intricacies of the plot. His
    ideas are always big but the plot mechanics get left behind. The pacing
    is incredibly rapid, jumping from one idea to the next with little time
    taken to explore the details.

    Despite some clumsy social commentary, the latest series opener,
    propelled only by Ncuti Gatwa and Varada Sethu’s somewhat refreshing doctor-companion dynamic, barely manages to stick the landing - much
    like the once-reliable TARDIS which now seems to have lost its way - not
    unlike modern dr who IMHO.

    This is the beginning of the end, no question.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to card.master@bee92.invalid.com on Sat Apr 12 20:10:55 2025
    In article <b80d67175346ceadc2e7642f00a08f75@www.novabbs.com>,
    Theory11 <card.master@bee92.invalid.com> wrote:
    SEASON 2 - EPISODE 1 - THE ROBOT REVOLUTION

    Better than SPACE BABIES is the best I can say about this episode.

    The storyline of THE ROBOT REVOLUTION can be quite perplexing. The
    temporal mechanics involving Belinda and Alan are difficult to grasp.
    This is a common trait in Russell T Davies' storytelling, where the
    concepts often overshadow the structural intricacies of the plot. His
    ideas are always big but the plot mechanics get left behind. The pacing
    is incredibly rapid, jumping from one idea to the next with little time
    taken to explore the details.

    Despite some clumsy social commentary, the latest series opener,
    propelled only by Ncuti Gatwa and Varada Sethu’s somewhat refreshing >doctor-companion dynamic, barely manages to stick the landing - much
    like the once-reliable TARDIS which now seems to have lost its way - not >unlike modern dr who IMHO.

    This is the beginning of the end, no question.

    The end of RTD involvement in DW and not DW itself.


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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 12 20:25:36 2025
    Theory11 wrote:

    SEASON 2 - EPISODE 1 - THE ROBOT REVOLUTION

    Better than SPACE BABIES is the best I can say about this
    episode.

    For sure!

    The robots did look like something that came out of a Marvel
    film but they were ten times better than a bogey monster!

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sat Apr 12 20:34:47 2025
    In article <xn0p4h1rfaesor0002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Theory11 wrote:

    SEASON 2 - EPISODE 1 - THE ROBOT REVOLUTION

    Better than SPACE BABIES is the best I can say about this
    episode.

    For sure!

    The robots did look like something that came out of a Marvel
    film but they were ten times better than a bogey monster!

    WE concur!
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  • From The True Doctor@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Sat Apr 12 22:29:01 2025
    On 12/04/2025 21:10, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <b80d67175346ceadc2e7642f00a08f75@www.novabbs.com>,
    Theory11 <card.master@bee92.invalid.com> wrote:
    SEASON 2 - EPISODE 1 - THE ROBOT REVOLUTION

    Better than SPACE BABIES is the best I can say about this episode.

    The storyline of THE ROBOT REVOLUTION can be quite perplexing. The
    temporal mechanics involving Belinda and Alan are difficult to grasp.
    This is a common trait in Russell T Davies' storytelling, where the
    concepts often overshadow the structural intricacies of the plot. His
    ideas are always big but the plot mechanics get left behind. The pacing
    is incredibly rapid, jumping from one idea to the next with little time
    taken to explore the details.

    Despite some clumsy social commentary, the latest series opener,
    propelled only by Ncuti Gatwa and Varada Sethu’s somewhat refreshing
    doctor-companion dynamic, barely manages to stick the landing - much
    like the once-reliable TARDIS which now seems to have lost its way - not
    unlike modern dr who IMHO.

    This is the beginning of the end, no question.

    The end of RTD involvement in DW and not DW itself.


    Doctor Who ended in 2017!


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM on Sat Apr 12 23:43:35 2025
    In article <vtelut$1b9h9$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 12/04/2025 21:10, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <b80d67175346ceadc2e7642f00a08f75@www.novabbs.com>,
    Theory11 <card.master@bee92.invalid.com> wrote:
    SEASON 2 - EPISODE 1 - THE ROBOT REVOLUTION

    Better than SPACE BABIES is the best I can say about this episode.

    The storyline of THE ROBOT REVOLUTION can be quite perplexing. The
    temporal mechanics involving Belinda and Alan are difficult to grasp.
    This is a common trait in Russell T Davies' storytelling, where the
    concepts often overshadow the structural intricacies of the plot. His
    ideas are always big but the plot mechanics get left behind. The pacing
    is incredibly rapid, jumping from one idea to the next with little time
    taken to explore the details.

    Despite some clumsy social commentary, the latest series opener,
    propelled only by Ncuti Gatwa and Varada Sethu’s somewhat refreshing
    doctor-companion dynamic, barely manages to stick the landing - much
    like the once-reliable TARDIS which now seems to have lost its way - not >>> unlike modern dr who IMHO.

    This is the beginning of the end, no question.

    The end of RTD involvement in DW and not DW itself.


    Doctor Who ended in 2017!


    Hence why RTD so go! And Moffat and Chibnall should not get
    consideration.


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  • From Hornplayer9599@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 12 20:50:55 2025
    On 4/12/2025 09:54, Theory11 wrote:
    SEASON 2 - EPISODE 1 - THE ROBOT REVOLUTION

    Better than SPACE BABIES is the best I can say about this episode.

    Yeah...let's reflect on that. The standard we are comparing this
    episode to is...Space Babies. That would be like when I had my stroke
    20 years ago if the doctor came in and said, "Well, you had a minor
    stroke. But look at the bright side, at least you didn't have a /major/ stroke."


    The storyline of THE ROBOT REVOLUTION can be quite perplexing. The
    temporal mechanics involving Belinda and Alan are difficult to grasp.
    This is a common trait in Russell T Davies' storytelling, where the
    concepts often overshadow the structural intricacies of the plot. His
    ideas are always big but the plot mechanics get left behind. The pacing
    is incredibly rapid, jumping from one idea to the next with little time
    taken to explore the details.

    And some of that I can go with Blueshirt's thought about some plot
    devices ending up on the floor of the editing room. Lazy writing covers
    the rest.



    Despite some clumsy social commentary, the latest series opener,
    propelled only by Ncuti Gatwa and Varada Sethu’s somewhat refreshing doctor-companion dynamic, barely manages to stick the landing - much
    like the once-reliable TARDIS which now seems to have lost its way - not unlike modern dr who IMHO.

    This is the beginning of the end, no question.



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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Sun Apr 13 09:32:59 2025
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <vtelut$1b9h9$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 12/04/2025 21:10, The Doctor wrote:
    Theory11 <card.master@bee92.invalid.com> wrote:

    This is the beginning of the end, no question.

    The end of RTD involvement in DW and not DW itself.

    Doctor Who ended in 2017!

    Hence why RTD so go! And Moffat and Chibnall should not get
    consideration.

    If RTD goes it's very likely the show goes too.

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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 13 21:07:52 2025
    On 13/04/2025 11:50 am, Hornplayer9599 wrote:
    On 4/12/2025 09:54, Theory11 wrote:
    SEASON 2 - EPISODE 1 - THE ROBOT REVOLUTION

    Better than SPACE BABIES is the best I can say about this episode.

    Yeah...let's reflect on that.  The standard we are comparing this
    episode to is...Space Babies.  That would be like when I had my stroke
    20 years ago if the doctor came in and said, "Well, you had a minor
    stroke.  But look at the bright side, at least you didn't have a /major/ stroke."

    In 1996, I had what my Doctor refered to as "a minor Stroke". One of my Brothers-in-law had "a minor stroke" in 2020, just as The World was
    closing down for CoViD-19.

    If Ross, my B-i-L had "a minor stroke" then mine MUST HAVE BEEN "a very,
    very, minor Stroke"!!
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun Apr 13 12:17:05 2025
    In article <xn0p4hz4b270c9009@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <vtelut$1b9h9$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 12/04/2025 21:10, The Doctor wrote:
    Theory11 <card.master@bee92.invalid.com> wrote:

    This is the beginning of the end, no question.

    The end of RTD involvement in DW and not DW itself.

    Doctor Who ended in 2017!

    Hence why RTD so go! And Moffat and Chibnall should not get
    consideration.

    If RTD goes it's very likely the show goes too.

    No! Showrunners in the BBC exists.
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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Sun Apr 13 12:38:33 2025
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0p4hz4b270c9009@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    Hence why RTD so go! And Moffat and Chibnall should not get
    consideration.

    If RTD goes it's very likely the show goes too.

    No! Showrunners in the BBC exists.

    With overnight ratings of two million for the new season's
    opening episode I'm sorry to say that it looks like the show is
    only going in one direction...

    What are all the nay-sayers going to do when the show is
    cancelled, throw a party to celebrate? Then look at each other
    in boredom for a decade as they have no Doctor Who to bitch to
    each other about?

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  • From Hornplayer9599@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun Apr 13 07:48:44 2025
    On 4/13/2025 07:38, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0p4hz4b270c9009@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    Hence why RTD so go! And Moffat and Chibnall should not get
    consideration.

    If RTD goes it's very likely the show goes too.

    No! Showrunners in the BBC exists.

    With overnight ratings of two million for the new season's
    opening episode I'm sorry to say that it looks like the show is
    only going in one direction...

    What are all the nay-sayers going to do when the show is
    cancelled, throw a party to celebrate? Then look at each other
    in boredom for a decade as they have no Doctor Who to bitch to
    each other about?

    I'm pretty sure Aggy has things already lined up that he can become
    unhinged over.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Sun Apr 13 14:09:19 2025
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0p4i4038tuju004@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0p4hz4b270c9009@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    Hence why RTD so go! And Moffat and Chibnall should not
    get consideration.

    If RTD goes it's very likely the show goes too.

    No! Showrunners in the BBC exists.

    With overnight ratings of two million for the new season's
    opening episode I'm sorry to say that it looks like the show
    is only going in one direction...

    What are all the nay-sayers going to do when the show is
    cancelled, throw a party to celebrate? Then look at each
    other in boredom for a decade as they have no Doctor Who to
    bitch to each other about?

    Time ofr a new era with a new showrunner. Out with Disney!

    Ironically enough, if Doctor Who was to go forward with a new
    showrunner it would probably need the likes of a
    Disney/Netflix/Amazon (etc.) to survive and help with the
    costs... despite what the BBC might claim, I doubt they have the
    money to make a season of Doctor Who for 2026 and make it look
    good... we all saw what limited BBC budgets did to Doctor Who in
    the 1980's!

    If Disney pulled the plug on their funding for Doctor Who I
    reckon the BBC will do the same for the show itself.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun Apr 13 18:47:35 2025
    In article <xn0p4i6dibz60y000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0p4i4038tuju004@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0p4hz4b270c9009@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    Hence why RTD so go! And Moffat and Chibnall should not
    get consideration.

    If RTD goes it's very likely the show goes too.

    No! Showrunners in the BBC exists.

    With overnight ratings of two million for the new season's
    opening episode I'm sorry to say that it looks like the show
    is only going in one direction...

    What are all the nay-sayers going to do when the show is
    cancelled, throw a party to celebrate? Then look at each
    other in boredom for a decade as they have no Doctor Who to
    bitch to each other about?

    Time ofr a new era with a new showrunner. Out with Disney!

    Ironically enough, if Doctor Who was to go forward with a new
    showrunner it would probably need the likes of a
    Disney/Netflix/Amazon (etc.) to survive and help with the
    costs... despite what the BBC might claim, I doubt they have the
    money to make a season of Doctor Who for 2026 and make it look
    good... we all saw what limited BBC budgets did to Doctor Who in
    the 1980's!

    If Disney pulled the plug on their funding for Doctor Who I
    reckon the BBC will do the same for the show itself.

    Out with Disney! Amazon or NetFlix OTOH!
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