• [ARTICLE] Modern Doctor Who takes place in an alternate timeline

    From Your Name@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 19 13:00:42 2025
    Go back even further. The "alternate timeline" (i.e. death of the show
    thanks to Political Correctness stupidity) started at least as far back
    as when the Mistress silliness first appeared.


    Doctor Who Magazine Seems to Confirm
    Modern Doctor Who Takes Place in an Alternate Timeline
    ------------------------------------------------------
    The latest issue of Doctor Who Magazine has raised some eyebrows
    as it apparently confirms that the show since Wild Blue Yonder
    takes place in an alternate reality.

    In its coverage of The Age of Sutekh from Big Finish, DWM asks
    how the titular alien, originally seen in Pyramids of Mars, can
    be in the audio when he's supposed to be clinging onto the side
    of the TARDIS, as per The Legend of Ruby Sunday. DWM concludes:
    "In an alternate timeline where gravity is known as 'mavity,'
    the Osiran time-space corridor between Sutekh's tomb and the
    Old Priory was actually the time vortex itself. There, Sutekh
    attached himself to the TARDIS and travelled with the Doctor
    for hundreds of years, evolving into a Titan and dispatching
    his Angels of Death everywhere the TARDIS went (Tales of the
    TARDIS: Pyramids of Mars, 2014; The Legend of Ruby Sunday/
    Empire of Death, 2024)."

    The idea of "mavity" instead of "gravity" was introduced in the
    aforementioned 60th anniversary special, when Sir Isaac Newton
    misremembered or misheard Donna Noble (Catherine Tate)
    mentioning "gravity"; it makes no sense, but nonetheless, the
    word has replaced the real word in several episodes.

    So this is really quite interesting and implies a number of
    potential things.

    Firstly, that showrunner, Russell T Davies, messed up a bit
    with Sutekh.

    Secondly, that the show, at least with David Tennant's
    Fourteenth Doctor and Ncuti Gatwa's Fifteenth Doctor, takes
    place in another alternate timeline.

    Thirdly, that there might be a desire to see the most recent
    era siphoned off into another reality.

    And fourthly, that since 2023, there's been such a divergence
    from the previous era of the programme that a new timeline
    wouldn't be much of a stretch.

    But there are a few T&Cs to this. Primarily, DWM might be
    suggesting that the Big Finish audios take place in another
    timeline, which would make some sense given that the TV show
    retreads some ground sometimes, like the Doctor's conflicting
    adventures with Mary Shelley, for example.

    We're not sure whether the "mavity" thing is the point of
    divergence either. Wild Blue Yonder is certainly important to
    the Who mythos as the Doctor introduced fantasy and luck to
    the universe, apparently by using a line of salt to hold
    mysterious creatures at the end of space-time at bay.

    In conclusion: oh, who knows? At least this gives fans a good
    way of differentiating things in their heads if they so wish.
    And we reckon quite a few will wish exactly that...



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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to YourName@YourISP.com on Tue Aug 19 05:03:44 2025
    In article <1080ibp$3fc1v$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    Go back even further. The "alternate timeline" (i.e. death of the show
    thanks to Political Correctness stupidity) started at least as far back
    as when the Mistress silliness first appeared.


    Doctor Who Magazine Seems to Confirm
    Modern Doctor Who Takes Place in an Alternate Timeline
    ------------------------------------------------------
    The latest issue of Doctor Who Magazine has raised some eyebrows
    as it apparently confirms that the show since Wild Blue Yonder
    takes place in an alternate reality.

    In its coverage of The Age of Sutekh from Big Finish, DWM asks
    how the titular alien, originally seen in Pyramids of Mars, can
    be in the audio when he's supposed to be clinging onto the side
    of the TARDIS, as per The Legend of Ruby Sunday. DWM concludes:
    "In an alternate timeline where gravity is known as 'mavity,'
    the Osiran time-space corridor between Sutekh's tomb and the
    Old Priory was actually the time vortex itself. There, Sutekh
    attached himself to the TARDIS and travelled with the Doctor
    for hundreds of years, evolving into a Titan and dispatching
    his Angels of Death everywhere the TARDIS went (Tales of the
    TARDIS: Pyramids of Mars, 2014; The Legend of Ruby Sunday/
    Empire of Death, 2024)."

    The idea of "mavity" instead of "gravity" was introduced in the
    aforementioned 60th anniversary special, when Sir Isaac Newton
    misremembered or misheard Donna Noble (Catherine Tate)
    mentioning "gravity"; it makes no sense, but nonetheless, the
    word has replaced the real word in several episodes.

    So this is really quite interesting and implies a number of
    potential things.

    Firstly, that showrunner, Russell T Davies, messed up a bit
    with Sutekh.

    Secondly, that the show, at least with David Tennant's
    Fourteenth Doctor and Ncuti Gatwa's Fifteenth Doctor, takes
    place in another alternate timeline.

    Thirdly, that there might be a desire to see the most recent
    era siphoned off into another reality.

    And fourthly, that since 2023, there's been such a divergence
    from the previous era of the programme that a new timeline
    wouldn't be much of a stretch.

    But there are a few T&Cs to this. Primarily, DWM might be
    suggesting that the Big Finish audios take place in another
    timeline, which would make some sense given that the TV show
    retreads some ground sometimes, like the Doctor's conflicting
    adventures with Mary Shelley, for example.

    We're not sure whether the "mavity" thing is the point of
    divergence either. Wild Blue Yonder is certainly important to
    the Who mythos as the Doctor introduced fantasy and luck to
    the universe, apparently by using a line of salt to hold
    mysterious creatures at the end of space-time at bay.

    In conclusion: oh, who knows? At least this gives fans a good
    way of differentiating things in their heads if they so wish.
    And we reckon quite a few will wish exactly that...



    <https://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2025/08/19/doctor-who-magazine-seems-to-confirm-modern-doctor-who-takes-place-in-an-alternate-timeline/>






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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Your Name on Tue Aug 19 10:15:15 2025
    Your Name wrote:


    Go back even further. The "alternate timeline" (i.e. death of
    the show thanks to Political Correctness stupidity) started at
    least as far back as when the Mistress silliness first
    appeared.


    Doctor Who Magazine Seems to Confirm
    Modern Doctor Who Takes Place in an Alternate Timeline ------------------------------------------------------
    The latest issue of Doctor Who Magazine has raised some
    eyebrows as it apparently confirms that the show since Wild
    Blue Yonder takes place in an alternate reality.

    I think that was always the plan... the mavity universe being an
    alternate universe that is. It's just RTD spun it out too long
    (as he does) and because of events now never got to explain it...

    The constant references to "mavity" were littered throughout the
    two Ncuti Gatwa seasons. As yet, we don't have a conclusion to
    that arc, but it had to be an alternate timeline...

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  • From Woozy Song@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Tue Aug 19 17:33:08 2025
    Blueshirt wrote:
    Blueshirt wrote:


    The constant references to "mavity" were littered throughout
    the two Ncuti Gatwa seasons. As yet, we don't have a
    conclusion to that arc, but it had to be an alternate
    timeline...

    Which, now I think about it, might even [eventually] explain
    the Billie Piper 'thing'???


    Well did Jackie and Pete make another baby in parallel universe? So Rose
    has a sister, who look just like her. But in her timeline, sister is 41
    years old when she got sucked into the Tardis to confuse everybody.
    Stop making sense.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Tue Aug 19 10:20:05 2025
    Blueshirt wrote:


    The constant references to "mavity" were littered throughout
    the two Ncuti Gatwa seasons. As yet, we don't have a
    conclusion to that arc, but it had to be an alternate
    timeline...

    Which, now I think about it, might even [eventually] explain
    the Billie Piper 'thing'???

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Tue Aug 19 14:34:55 2025
    In article <xn0p9q6sj2zycnd001@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Your Name wrote:


    Go back even further. The "alternate timeline" (i.e. death of
    the show thanks to Political Correctness stupidity) started at
    least as far back as when the Mistress silliness first
    appeared.


    Doctor Who Magazine Seems to Confirm
    Modern Doctor Who Takes Place in an Alternate Timeline
    ------------------------------------------------------
    The latest issue of Doctor Who Magazine has raised some
    eyebrows as it apparently confirms that the show since Wild
    Blue Yonder takes place in an alternate reality.

    I think that was always the plan... the mavity universe being an
    alternate universe that is. It's just RTD spun it out too long
    (as he does) and because of events now never got to explain it...

    The constant references to "mavity" were littered throughout the
    two Ncuti Gatwa seasons. As yet, we don't have a conclusion to
    that arc, but it had to be an alternate timeline...

    Alternative to Doctor Who.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Tue Aug 19 14:36:27 2025
    In article <xn0p9q6wy304r6u002@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Blueshirt wrote:


    The constant references to "mavity" were littered throughout
    the two Ncuti Gatwa seasons. As yet, we don't have a
    conclusion to that arc, but it had to be an alternate
    timeline...

    Which, now I think about it, might even [eventually] explain
    the Billie Piper 'thing'???

    Retcon!
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to suzyw0ng@outlook.com on Tue Aug 19 14:37:17 2025
    In article <1081gcp$3lfn9$1@dont-email.me>,
    Woozy Song <suzyw0ng@outlook.com> wrote:
    Blueshirt wrote:
    Blueshirt wrote:


    The constant references to "mavity" were littered throughout
    the two Ncuti Gatwa seasons. As yet, we don't have a
    conclusion to that arc, but it had to be an alternate
    timeline...

    Which, now I think about it, might even [eventually] explain
    the Billie Piper 'thing'???


    Well did Jackie and Pete make another baby in parallel universe? So Rose
    has a sister, who look just like her. But in her timeline, sister is 41
    years old when she got sucked into the Tardis to confuse everybody.
    Stop making sense.

    Good logical argument.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to thetruemelissa@gmail.com on Tue Aug 19 14:42:30 2025
    In article <MPG.430e19487604f4a3989843@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <1080ibp$3fc1v$1@dont-email.me>, did
    YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:
    Secondly, that the show, at least with David Tennant's
    Fourteenth Doctor and Ncuti Gatwa's Fifteenth Doctor, takes
    place in another alternate timeline.


    Can it be...?

    I feel a flare of hope. I know it's foolish, but is it barely possible
    that the show will be righted and made watchable again?

    Just retcon the Timeless Child.


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  • From Dumas Walker@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 19 09:56:52 2025
    The constant references to "mavity" were littered throughout the
    two Ncuti Gatwa seasons. As yet, we don't have a conclusion to
    that arc, but it had to be an alternate timeline...

    I have not seen those seasons, but I did see the Donna Noble season(s).
    I
    do not remember hearing about "mavity" until I read this article. ;)

    I like the idea of an alternate timeline that starts about the time
    that
    Chinball took over. Now we just need some seasons, written by someone
    else, that cover what happens in the "actual" timeline when 12
    regenerates.


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    spheres

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Woozy Song on Tue Aug 19 20:16:37 2025
    Woozy Song wrote:

    Blueshirt wrote:

    The constant references to "mavity" were littered
    throughout the two Ncuti Gatwa seasons. As yet, we don't
    have a conclusion to that arc, but it had to be an
    alternate timeline...

    Which, now I think about it, might even [eventually] explain
    the Billie Piper 'thing'???

    Well did Jackie and Pete make another baby in parallel
    universe?

    Rose Tyler is already in the same parallel universe as her
    Mother and alternate Dad (Pete's World)... with HandyDoc.

    It might not be the same alternate universe as the Bollywood
    Isaac Newton (Mavity universe) but, we did see glitches in
    reality at the end of S2.

    So who knows what could happen because of those glitches.

    I mean, if you can bang a TARDIS with a hammer and create a
    new TARDIS...

    :-)

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Dumas Walker on Tue Aug 19 20:24:24 2025
    Dumas Walker wrote:

    The constant references to "mavity" were littered
    throughout the two Ncuti Gatwa seasons. As yet,
    we don't have a conclusion to that arc, but it had
    to be an alternate timeline...

    I have not seen those seasons,

    Some might say you haven't missed much.

    I do not remember hearing about "mavity" until I
    read this article.

    You haven't missed much there either... it's just a word
    thrown around instead of the word gravity. But as yet it
    hasn't been explained.

    I like the idea of an alternate timeline that starts about
    the time that Chinball took over.

    I think. - It's something caused by the Toymaker and the
    Doctor's battle with him... but it's RTD, so I am only
    trying to put 2 + 2 together to come up with something that
    works to save him having to explain his plots. As actually
    explaining things seems to be too much to ask from an RTD
    script these days.


    Now we just need some seasons, written by
    someone else, that cover what happens in the "actual" timeline
    when 12 regenerates.


    * SLMR 2.1a * Her voice rings in his ears like the music of
    the spheres

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Melissa Hollingsworth on Tue Aug 19 20:48:48 2025
    Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:

    Verily, in article <1080ibp$3fc1v$1@dont-email.me>, did
    YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:
    Secondly, that the show, at least with David Tennant's
    Fourteenth Doctor and Ncuti Gatwa's Fifteenth Doctor,
    takes place in another alternate timeline.

    Can it be...?

    I feel a flare of hope. I know it's foolish, but is it barely
    possible that the show will be righted and made watchable
    again?

    It is watchable... it just doesn't make a lot of sense at
    times... random stuff happens and then more random stuff
    happens and then we often have to guess the bits that happened
    in-between.

    You don't think adding alternative universes in to the mix
    is going to make it any more coherent do you?! ;-)

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Dumas Walker on Tue Aug 19 23:20:34 2025
    In article <755616148@darkrealms.ca>,
    Dumas Walker <NOSPAM.Dumas.Walker@darkrealms.ca> wrote:
    The constant references to "mavity" were littered throughout the
    two Ncuti Gatwa seasons. As yet, we don't have a conclusion to
    that arc, but it had to be an alternate timeline...

    I have not seen those seasons, but I did see the Donna Noble season(s).
    I
    do not remember hearing about "mavity" until I read this article. ;)

    I like the idea of an alternate timeline that starts about the time
    that
    Chinball took over. Now we just need some seasons, written by someone
    else, that cover what happens in the "actual" timeline when 12
    regenerates.

    Sack JN -T.


    * SLMR 2.1a * Her voice rings in his ears like the music of the
    spheres


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Tue Aug 19 23:25:57 2025
    In article <xn0p9qo6w3nk0vl002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Woozy Song wrote:

    Blueshirt wrote:

    The constant references to "mavity" were littered
    throughout the two Ncuti Gatwa seasons. As yet, we don't
    have a conclusion to that arc, but it had to be an
    alternate timeline...

    Which, now I think about it, might even [eventually] explain
    the Billie Piper 'thing'???

    Well did Jackie and Pete make another baby in parallel
    universe?

    Rose Tyler is already in the same parallel universe as her
    Mother and alternate Dad (Pete's World)... with HandyDoc.

    It might not be the same alternate universe as the Bollywood
    Isaac Newton (Mavity universe) but, we did see glitches in
    reality at the end of S2.


    The Wild Blue yonder?

    So who knows what could happen because of those glitches.

    I mean, if you can bang a TARDIS with a hammer and create a
    new TARDIS...

    :-)


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Tue Aug 19 23:26:18 2025
    In article <xn0p9qobt3nr33x003@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Dumas Walker wrote:

    The constant references to "mavity" were littered
    throughout the two Ncuti Gatwa seasons. As yet,
    we don't have a conclusion to that arc, but it had
    to be an alternate timeline...

    I have not seen those seasons,

    Some might say you haven't missed much.

    I do not remember hearing about "mavity" until I
    read this article.

    You haven't missed much there either... it's just a word
    thrown around instead of the word gravity. But as yet it
    hasn't been explained.

    I like the idea of an alternate timeline that starts about
    the time that Chinball took over.

    I think. - It's something caused by the Toymaker and the
    Doctor's battle with him... but it's RTD, so I am only
    trying to put 2 + 2 together to come up with something that
    works to save him having to explain his plots. As actually
    explaining things seems to be too much to ask from an RTD
    script these days.


    Now we just need some seasons, written by
    someone else, that cover what happens in the "actual" timeline
    when 12 regenerates.


    Wild Blue Yonder, a dud.


    * SLMR 2.1a * Her voice rings in his ears like the music of
    the spheres



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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Tue Aug 19 23:27:38 2025
    In article <xn0p9qozr3opq61006@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:

    Verily, in article <1080ibp$3fc1v$1@dont-email.me>, did
    YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:
    Secondly, that the show, at least with David Tennant's
    Fourteenth Doctor and Ncuti Gatwa's Fifteenth Doctor,
    takes place in another alternate timeline.

    Can it be...?

    I feel a flare of hope. I know it's foolish, but is it barely
    possible that the show will be righted and made watchable
    again?

    It is watchable... it just doesn't make a lot of sense at
    times... random stuff happens and then more random stuff
    happens and then we often have to guess the bits that happened
    in-between.

    You don't think adding alternative universes in to the mix
    is going to make it any more coherent do you?! ;-)


    Is the TARDIS stable?
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to thetruemelissa@gmail.com on Tue Aug 19 23:29:11 2025
    In article <MPG.430e891b1dc8a87c989849@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <xn0p9qozr3opq61006@post.eweka.nl>, did >blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:

    You don't think adding alternative universes in to the mix
    is going to make it any more coherent do you?! ;-)


    My ideal outcome would be for the timelines to exist just long enough to >declare that none of the recent years really happened. Basically, I want
    to see what *really* happened when Capaldi regenerated.

    I know some people still like the current show, though. I don't really
    want to take it away from them, even if I am a little baffled. :-)


    That works for me.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Wed Aug 20 10:59:30 2025
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0p9qo6w3nk0vl002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Rose Tyler is already in the same parallel universe as her
    Mother and alternate Dad (Pete's World)... with HandyDoc.

    It might not be the same alternate universe as the Bollywood
    Isaac Newton (Mavity universe) but, we did see glitches in
    reality at the end of S2.

    The Wild Blue yonder?

    Well, that's where our old mate Isaac got to come up with the
    term mavity...

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Wed Aug 20 10:55:59 2025
    The Doctor wrote:

    Is the TARDIS stable?

    It can't be very stable if banging it with a hammer creates
    another one!!! ;-)

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to solar penguin on Wed Aug 20 12:44:25 2025
    solar penguin wrote:

    Blueshirt brought forth:

    Rose Tyler is already in the same parallel universe as her
    Mother and alternate Dad (Pete's World)... with HandyDoc.

    It might not be the same alternate universe as the Bollywood
    Isaac Newton (Mavity universe) but, we did see glitches in
    reality at the end of S2.

    Being really cynical I wonder if RTD deliberately plans to
    never fix mavity. At all. Ever. Maybe he thinks of it as the
    solution to another problem.

    I assumed it was part of his long term plans... that have now
    been put on hold... but I have no evidence to support any theory
    that says he WAS going to actually explain it. It just seemed
    like a reasonable expectation. Having people constantly saying
    mavity gets silly after a while if nobody knows the actual
    reason for it.

    During the RTD1/Moffat eras they were constantly having to
    make the people of Earth forget about alien invasions that
    turned their lives upside down, just to keep DW’s Earth
    similar to ours.

    I have always thought that was disingenuous... or just lazy on
    RTD's part, to save finding a better way to explain away those
    events. UNIT clearly has knowledge of them, so why not the
    general public?

    But now RTD has made a clear statement that, no, this isn’t
    our Earth. Gravity has a different name, teal is a different
    shade of blue, and conspiracy theorists think the authorities
    are covering up that aliens don’t exist when everyone knows
    they do!

    So although this is a different universe, as far as RTD’s
    concerned, it could finally be the right universe for Doctor
    Who. No need to keep resetting everything anymore.

    I reckon the Rose Tyler thing is part of it and it will be
    settled during whatever arc RTD has planned for her, and the
    next Doctor will then be back on track...

    In fact, there will probably be even more differences coming,
    if he is allowed to stay.

    That could happen too.

    (What, you thought Aggy was the only pessimistic, cynical one
    around here? Sorry to disappoint you.)

    We are all old cynics... it's what makes this place entertaining!

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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Wed Aug 20 22:46:36 2025
    On 20/08/2025 6:16 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    Woozy Song wrote:
    Blueshirt wrote:

    The constant references to "mavity" were littered
    throughout the two Ncuti Gatwa seasons. As yet, we don't
    have a conclusion to that arc, but it had to be an
    alternate timeline...

    Which, now I think about it, might even [eventually] explain
    the Billie Piper 'thing'???

    Well did Jackie and Pete make another baby in parallel
    universe?

    Rose Tyler is already in the same parallel universe as her
    Mother and alternate Dad (Pete's World)... with HandyDoc.

    I thought Rose and HandDoc were on a completely different Planet .... at
    least until GunTottingRose came back to Earth.
    --
    Daniel70

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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Wed Aug 20 22:54:40 2025
    On 20/08/2025 6:48 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:
    Verily, in article <1080ibp$3fc1v$1@dont-email.me>, did
    YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:
    Secondly, that the show, at least with David Tennant's
    Fourteenth Doctor and Ncuti Gatwa's Fifteenth Doctor,
    takes place in another alternate timeline.

    Can it be...?

    I feel a flare of hope. I know it's foolish, but is it barely
    possible that the show will be righted and made watchable
    again?

    It is watchable... it just doesn't make a lot of sense at
    times... random stuff happens and then more random stuff
    happens and then we often have to guess the bits that happened
    in-between.

    You don't think adding alternative universes in to the mix
    is going to make it any more coherent do you?! ;-)
    I don't know much Earth History .... but I DO know "Ironsides" didn't
    help win WWII, .... I know bloody great Whale'ish things haven't
    survived in the River Thames back in 1600's (??), .... I know a lot of
    things that have happened to 'Doctor Who' Earth haven't happened on MY
    Earth .... so it ALL has happened in Alternative/Parallel Universes.
    --
    Daniel70

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Wed Aug 20 14:01:07 2025
    In article <xn0p9rmgfa2o3qi001@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0p9qo6w3nk0vl002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Rose Tyler is already in the same parallel universe as her
    Mother and alternate Dad (Pete's World)... with HandyDoc.

    It might not be the same alternate universe as the Bollywood
    Isaac Newton (Mavity universe) but, we did see glitches in
    reality at the end of S2.

    The Wild Blue yonder?

    Well, that's where our old mate Isaac got to come up with the
    term mavity...

    You got the idea.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to solar.penguin@gmail.com on Wed Aug 20 14:01:48 2025
    In article <1084b3g$9vfn$1@dont-email.me>,
    solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:

    Blueshirt brought forth:

    Woozy Song wrote:

    Blueshirt wrote:

    The constant references to "mavity" were littered
    throughout the two Ncuti Gatwa seasons. As yet, we don't
    have a conclusion to that arc, but it had to be an
    alternate timeline...

    Which, now I think about it, might even [eventually] explain
    the Billie Piper 'thing'???

    Well did Jackie and Pete make another baby in parallel
    universe?

    Rose Tyler is already in the same parallel universe as her
    Mother and alternate Dad (Pete's World)... with HandyDoc.

    It might not be the same alternate universe as the Bollywood
    Isaac Newton (Mavity universe) but, we did see glitches in
    reality at the end of S2.


    Being really cynical I wonder if RTD deliberately plans to never
    fix mavity. At all. Ever. Maybe he thinks of it as the solution to
    another problem.

    During the RTD1/Moffat eras they were constantly having to
    make the people of Earth forget about alien invasions that turned
    their lives upside down, just to keep DW’s Earth similar to ours.

    But now RTD has made a clear statement that, no, this isn’t
    our Earth. Gravity has a different name, teal is a different shade
    of blue, and conspiracy theorists think the authorities are covering
    up that aliens _don’t_ exist when everyone knows they do!

    So although this is a different universe, as far as RTD’s concerned,
    it could finally be the _right_ universe for Doctor Who. No
    need to keep resetting everything anymore.

    In fact, there will probably be even more differences coming, if
    he is allowed to stay.

    (What, you thought Aggy was the only pessimistic, cynical one
    around here? Sorry to disappoint you.)


    RTD is not popular right now.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Wed Aug 20 14:02:07 2025
    In article <xn0p9rp7ga6d4r0000@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:


    solar penguin wrote:

    Blueshirt brought forth:

    Rose Tyler is already in the same parallel universe as her
    Mother and alternate Dad (Pete's World)... with HandyDoc.

    It might not be the same alternate universe as the Bollywood
    Isaac Newton (Mavity universe) but, we did see glitches in
    reality at the end of S2.

    Being really cynical I wonder if RTD deliberately plans to
    never fix mavity. At all. Ever. Maybe he thinks of it as the
    solution to another problem.

    I assumed it was part of his long term plans... that have now
    been put on hold... but I have no evidence to support any theory
    that says he WAS going to actually explain it. It just seemed
    like a reasonable expectation. Having people constantly saying
    mavity gets silly after a while if nobody knows the actual
    reason for it.

    During the RTD1/Moffat eras they were constantly having to
    make the people of Earth forget about alien invasions that
    turned their lives upside down, just to keep DW’s Earth
    similar to ours.

    I have always thought that was disingenuous... or just lazy on
    RTD's part, to save finding a better way to explain away those
    events. UNIT clearly has knowledge of them, so why not the
    general public?

    But now RTD has made a clear statement that, no, this isn’t
    our Earth. Gravity has a different name, teal is a different
    shade of blue, and conspiracy theorists think the authorities
    are covering up that aliens don’t exist when everyone knows
    they do!

    So although this is a different universe, as far as RTD’s
    concerned, it could finally be the right universe for Doctor
    Who. No need to keep resetting everything anymore.

    I reckon the Rose Tyler thing is part of it and it will be
    settled during whatever arc RTD has planned for her, and the
    next Doctor will then be back on track...

    In fact, there will probably be even more differences coming,
    if he is allowed to stay.

    That could happen too.

    (What, you thought Aggy was the only pessimistic, cynical one
    around here? Sorry to disappoint you.)

    We are all old cynics... it's what makes this place entertaining!


    Oh! nice!!
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse on Wed Aug 20 14:05:29 2025
    In article <1084g30$b1ef$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> wrote:
    On 20/08/2025 6:16 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    Woozy Song wrote:
    Blueshirt wrote:

    The constant references to "mavity" were littered
    throughout the two Ncuti Gatwa seasons. As yet, we don't
    have a conclusion to that arc, but it had to be an
    alternate timeline...

    Which, now I think about it, might even [eventually] explain
    the Billie Piper 'thing'???

    Well did Jackie and Pete make another baby in parallel
    universe?

    Rose Tyler is already in the same parallel universe as her
    Mother and alternate Dad (Pete's World)... with HandyDoc.

    I thought Rose and HandDoc were on a completely different Planet .... at >least until GunTottingRose came back to Earth.

    And universe.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Wed Aug 20 14:00:52 2025
    In article <xn0p9rmd9a2jl3w000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:


    The Doctor wrote:

    Is the TARDIS stable?

    It can't be very stable if banging it with a hammer creates
    another one!!! ;-)

    ;-)
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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 20 14:16:23 2025
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 20/08/2025 6:48 am, Blueshirt wrote:

    It is watchable... it just doesn't make a lot of sense at
    times... random stuff happens and then more random stuff
    happens and then we often have to guess the bits that
    happened in-between.

    You don't think adding alternative universes in to the
    mix is going to make it any more coherent do you?! ;-)

    I don't know much Earth History .... but I DO know
    "Ironsides" didn't help win WWII, ....

    Yeah, and those trains in the sky didn't help win it either! ;-)

    I know bloody great Whale'ish things haven't survived
    in the River Thames back in 1600's (??), .... I know
    a lot of things that have happened to 'Doctor Who'
    Earth haven't happened on MY Earth .... so it ALL has
    happened in Alternative/Parallel Universes.

    No, it never happened at all... it's all fictional.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Wed Aug 20 15:32:16 2025
    In article <xn0p9rt7p1061c3000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 20/08/2025 6:16 am, Blueshirt wrote:

    Rose Tyler is already in the same parallel universe
    as her Mother and alternate Dad (Pete's World)...
    with HandyDoc.

    I thought Rose and HandDoc were on a completely different
    Planet .... at least until GunTottingRose came back to
    Earth.

    No, "Pete's World" was a parallel universe Earth...

    Indeed!
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to solar.penguin@gmail.com on Wed Aug 20 15:39:07 2025
    In article <1084ob2$d4ti$1@dont-email.me>,
    solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:

    Blueshirt brought forth for us:


    solar penguin wrote:

    Being really cynical I wonder if RTD deliberately plans to
    never fix mavity. At all. Ever. Maybe he thinks of it as the
    solution to another problem.

    I assumed it was part of his long term plans... that have now
    been put on hold... but I have no evidence to support any theory
    that says he WAS going to actually explain it. It just seemed
    like a reasonable expectation.

    RTD hasn’t exactly been doing reasonable expectations lately.
    He prefers event TV that gets people talking, even if all they’re
    saying is ‘WTF?’


    Non-Confidence in RTD.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Thu Aug 21 09:06:12 2025
    On 2025-08-20 09:59:30 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0p9qo6w3nk0vl002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Rose Tyler is already in the same parallel universe as her
    Mother and alternate Dad (Pete's World)... with HandyDoc.

    It might not be the same alternate universe as the Bollywood
    Isaac Newton (Mavity universe) but, we did see glitches in
    reality at the end of S2.

    The Wild Blue yonder?

    Well, that's where our old mate Isaac got to come up with the
    term mavity...

    But that was a black Issac Newton, so was obviously already a stupid Politically Correcterised alternate timeline.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to thetruemelissa@gmail.com on Wed Aug 20 22:28:41 2025
    In article <MPG.430fa8347ed6c4a0989851@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <1084ob2$d4ti$1@dont-email.me>, did >solar.penguin@gmail.com deliver unto us this message:
    RTD hasn?t exactly been doing reasonable expectations lately.
    He prefers event TV that gets people talking, even if all they?re
    saying is ?WTF??


    Yes, that's exactly it. You've nailed it. It's funny because it's true.

    If this "mavity" stuff pans out into a reboot, I might actually start >watching again.


    What about a retcon of the Tiemless Child?

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to YourName@YourISP.com on Wed Aug 20 22:30:11 2025
    In article <1085dc3$ieaa$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-08-20 09:59:30 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0p9qo6w3nk0vl002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Rose Tyler is already in the same parallel universe as her
    Mother and alternate Dad (Pete's World)... with HandyDoc.

    It might not be the same alternate universe as the Bollywood
    Isaac Newton (Mavity universe) but, we did see glitches in
    reality at the end of S2.

    The Wild Blue yonder?

    Well, that's where our old mate Isaac got to come up with the
    term mavity...

    But that was a black Issac Newton, so was obviously already a stupid >Politically Correcterised alternate timeline.


    Indian not black.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to solar.penguin@gmail.com on Wed Aug 20 22:29:33 2025
    In article <10852vi$foj1$1@dont-email.me>,
    solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:

    The idiot inquired:

    In article <1084ob2$d4ti$1@dont-email.me>,
    solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:

    RTD hasn’t exactly been doing reasonable expectations lately.
    He prefers event TV that gets people talking, even if all they’re
    saying is ‘WTF?’


    Non-Confidence in RTD.


    Unfortunately, yes.

    I don’t remember the name, but there was a famous philosopher who
    said you can never step into the same stream twice, because it
    is no longer the same stream and you are no longer the same
    person.

    RTD was the right person to step into DW’s stream back in
    2005. With hindsight, he was the wrong person in 2023.


    Was he ever the correct person?

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to thetruemelissa@gmail.com on Thu Aug 21 02:33:10 2025
    In article <MPG.431016d4388dc728989855@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <1085i6o$1h7d$2@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did >doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:

    In article <MPG.430fa8347ed6c4a0989851@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <1084ob2$d4ti$1@dont-email.me>, did
    solar.penguin@gmail.com deliver unto us this message:
    RTD hasn?t exactly been doing reasonable expectations lately.
    He prefers event TV that gets people talking, even if all they?re
    saying is ?WTF??


    Yes, that's exactly it. You've nailed it. It's funny because it's true.

    If this "mavity" stuff pans out into a reboot, I might actually start
    watching again.


    What about a retcon of the Tiemless Child?

    I'm rooting for getting rid of everything after Capaldi, including that.

    You are not alone!


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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Melissa Hollingsworth on Thu Aug 21 08:53:27 2025
    Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:

    Verily, in article <1084ob2$d4ti$1@dont-email.me>, did solar.penguin@gmail.com deliver unto us this message:

    RTD hasn?t exactly been doing reasonable expectations
    lately. He prefers event TV that gets people talking,
    even if all they're saying is ?WTF??

    Yes, that's exactly it. You've nailed it. It's funny because
    it's true.

    If this "mavity" stuff pans out into a reboot, I might
    actually start watching again.

    I wouldn't be 100% confident it would "pan out" in a positive
    way...

    I would like to be pleasantly surprised though, so we live in
    hope.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to solar penguin on Thu Aug 21 08:53:28 2025
    solar penguin wrote:


    RTD hasn’t exactly been doing reasonable expectations
    lately. He prefers event TV that gets people talking,
    even if all they’re saying is ‘WTF?’

    Clickbait television.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Your Name on Thu Aug 21 11:13:54 2025
    Your Name wrote:

    On 2025-08-20 09:59:30 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    The Doctor wrote:

    The Wild Blue yonder?

    Well, that's where our old mate Isaac got to come up with
    the term mavity...

    But that was a black Issac Newton, so was obviously already
    a stupid Politically Correcterised alternate timeline.

    Well, Indian... and I did get the idea - at one stage - Belinda
    Chandra's 'story' might have tied in to him in some way or
    another because of that. I didn't think RTD just cast an Indian
    looking fella as Isaac Newton for the sake of it... I did think
    there was an idea (of some sorts) behind it.

    Now... I'm not so sure that RTD's ideas go as deep as that. It's
    quite possible that we think more about his plots that he does!!!

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Thu Aug 21 12:34:57 2025
    In article <xn0p9sz3cp6gt002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:

    Verily, in article <1084ob2$d4ti$1@dont-email.me>, did
    solar.penguin@gmail.com deliver unto us this message:

    RTD hasn?t exactly been doing reasonable expectations
    lately. He prefers event TV that gets people talking,
    even if all they're saying is ?WTF??

    Yes, that's exactly it. You've nailed it. It's funny because
    it's true.

    If this "mavity" stuff pans out into a reboot, I might
    actually start watching again.

    I wouldn't be 100% confident it would "pan out" in a positive
    way...

    I would like to be pleasantly surprised though, so we live in
    hope.

    Or retcon the Timeless child.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Thu Aug 21 12:35:37 2025
    In article <xn0p9sz6htrv8003@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    solar penguin wrote:


    RTD hasn’t exactly been doing reasonable expectations
    lately. He prefers event TV that gets people talking,
    even if all they’re saying is ‘WTF?’

    Clickbait television.

    RTD is clickbait.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Thu Aug 21 12:36:27 2025
    In article <xn0p9t1gr3uh3j001@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Your Name wrote:

    On 2025-08-20 09:59:30 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    The Doctor wrote:

    The Wild Blue yonder?

    Well, that's where our old mate Isaac got to come up with
    the term mavity...

    But that was a black Issac Newton, so was obviously already
    a stupid Politically Correcterised alternate timeline.

    Well, Indian... and I did get the idea - at one stage - Belinda
    Chandra's 'story' might have tied in to him in some way or
    another because of that. I didn't think RTD just cast an Indian
    looking fella as Isaac Newton for the sake of it... I did think
    there was an idea (of some sorts) behind it.

    Now... I'm not so sure that RTD's ideas go as deep as that. It's
    quite possible that we think more about his plots that he does!!!

    I dare YN to call Belinda a black person!
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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Thu Aug 21 23:29:28 2025
    On 21/08/2025 12:16 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:
    On 20/08/2025 6:48 am, Blueshirt wrote:

    It is watchable... it just doesn't make a lot of sense at
    times... random stuff happens and then more random stuff
    happens and then we often have to guess the bits that
    happened in-between.

    You don't think adding alternative universes in to the
    mix is going to make it any more coherent do you?! ;-)

    I don't know much Earth History .... but I DO know
    "Ironsides" didn't help win WWII, ....

    Yeah, and those trains in the sky didn't help win it either! ;-)

    I specifically didn't mention the TRAIN but YOU HAD TO BRING IT UP!!

    I know bloody great Whale'ish things haven't survived
    in the River Thames back in 1600's (??), .... I know
    a lot of things that have happened to 'Doctor Who'
    Earth haven't happened on MY Earth .... so it ALL has
    happened in Alternative/Parallel Universes.

    No, it never happened at all... it's all fictional.

    As far as YOU know!! ;-P
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse on Thu Aug 21 14:06:17 2025
    In article <10876v9$v1ln$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> wrote:
    On 21/08/2025 12:16 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:
    On 20/08/2025 6:48 am, Blueshirt wrote:

    It is watchable... it just doesn't make a lot of sense at
    times... random stuff happens and then more random stuff
    happens and then we often have to guess the bits that
    happened in-between.

    You don't think adding alternative universes in to the
    mix is going to make it any more coherent do you?! ;-)

    I don't know much Earth History .... but I DO know
    "Ironsides" didn't help win WWII, ....

    Yeah, and those trains in the sky didn't help win it either! ;-)

    I specifically didn't mention the TRAIN but YOU HAD TO BRING IT UP!!

    I know bloody great Whale'ish things haven't survived
    in the River Thames back in 1600's (??), .... I know
    a lot of things that have happened to 'Doctor Who'
    Earth haven't happened on MY Earth .... so it ALL has
    happened in Alternative/Parallel Universes.

    No, it never happened at all... it's all fictional.

    As far as YOU know!! ;-P
    --
    Daniel70

    Whatever!
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