who had already left home). In the BBC series "Sherlock" she was
named
"Eurus Holmes", a sister neither Sherlock nor Mycroft even knew about
-
thankfully the series had already deteriorated so far that it was the
last ever season of it by that point.

This was the only sister I was aware of. I didn't feel like she was
put in
for "a quota" (they already had plenty of females) so much as a plot
device -- someone more sinister than Moriarty with an axe to grind.
Sherlock
had locked her out of his memory, but Mycroft did indeed know about
her.

I still liked the series, but it had started going off the rails by
that
point. If you could believe in a criminal mastermind with a far
reaching
criminal sydicate (which most Holmes movies/shows include), most of the
early series were not out of the realm of belief. Towards the end,
IMHO,
they started making leaps that required more detachment from reality
which
made the plot twists more difficult to accept.

I thought that seemed odd considering how much source material they
should
have had to work with.


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In article <108ioaq$3n486$1@dont-email.me>,
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

On 2025-08-25 10:10:50 +0000, Dumas Walker said:

who had already left home). In the BBC series "Sherlock" she was named
"Eurus Holmes", a sister neither Sherlock nor Mycroft even knew about
- thankfully the series had already deteriorated so far that it was the
last ever season of it by that point.

This was the only sister I was aware of. I didn't feel like she was put in >> for "a quota" (they already had plenty of females) so much as a plot
device -- someone more sinister than Moriarty with an axe to grind.
Sherlock had locked her out of his memory, but Mycroft did indeed know
about her.

I still liked the series, but it had started going off the rails by that
point. If you could believe in a criminal mastermind with a far reaching
criminal sydicate (which most Holmes movies/shows include), most of the
early series were not out of the realm of belief. Towards the end,
IMHO, they started making leaps that required more detachment from
reality which
made the plot twists more difficult to accept.

I thought that seemed odd considering how much source material they should >> have had to work with.

Cucumberpatch had by then made a name for himself and wanted to move on
to other things anyway, as to a little lesser degree had Martin
Freeman. Hence why they were always (thankfully) "too busy" to get
everyone back together to make a fifth season.

Good!
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On 2025-08-25 10:10:50 +0000, Dumas Walker said:

who had already left home). In the BBC series "Sherlock" she was named
"Eurus Holmes", a sister neither Sherlock nor Mycroft even knew about
- thankfully the series had already deteriorated so far that it was the
last ever season of it by that point.

This was the only sister I was aware of. I didn't feel like she was put in for "a quota" (they already had plenty of females) so much as a plot
device -- someone more sinister than Moriarty with an axe to grind.
Sherlock had locked her out of his memory, but Mycroft did indeed know
about her.

I still liked the series, but it had started going off the rails by that point. If you could believe in a criminal mastermind with a far reaching criminal sydicate (which most Holmes movies/shows include), most of the
early series were not out of the realm of belief. Towards the end,
IMHO, they started making leaps that required more detachment from
reality which
made the plot twists more difficult to accept.

I thought that seemed odd considering how much source material they should have had to work with.

Cucumberpatch had by then made a name for himself and wanted to move on
to other things anyway, as to a little lesser degree had Martin
Freeman. Hence why they were always (thankfully) "too busy" to get
everyone back together to make a fifth season.

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IMHO, they started making leaps that required more detachment from
reality which
made the plot twists more difficult to accept.

I thought that seemed odd considering how much source material they

should

have had to work with.

Cucumberpatch had by then made a name for himself and wanted to move
on
to other things anyway, as to a little lesser degree had Martin
Freeman. Hence why they were always (thankfully) "too busy" to get
everyone back together to make a fifth season.

I always figured that was why the show "ended," and may have also even explained some of the plot leaps... shows that are being rushed to a
potential end often go off the rails with unusual plot leaps. Some
really
good shows, sci-fi and otherwise, have run into this when they get the
"last season" mentality.


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In article <MPG.4317bb197b0a0141989886@news.eternal-september.org>,
Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

Verily, in article <756223157@darkrealms.ca>, did >NOSPAM.Dumas.Walker@darkrealms.ca deliver unto us this message:

I always figured that was why the show "ended," and may have also even
explained some of the plot leaps... shows that are being rushed to a
potential end often go off the rails with unusual plot leaps. Some
really
good shows, sci-fi and otherwise, have run into this when they get the
"last season" mentality.

To me, the last series had nothing to do with either classic Holmes *or*
the world Moffat had built. It was all about ideas unrelated to Holmes:
a dreamy take on a child too intellectually gifted to function, a look
at a serial killer with money and power, and... um, I've forgotten the
third, but I'm pretty sure it had nothing to do with Holmes.

I think Moffat had just lost interest in the series, so he took other
ideas and crowbarred them into the Sherlock setting. There, now you have >those Sherlock scripts you've been bothering me about.

Or the other 2 lost interest.

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I always figured that was why the show "ended," and may have also

even

explained some of the plot leaps... shows that are being rushed to

a

potential end often go off the rails with unusual plot leaps. Some
really
good shows, sci-fi and otherwise, have run into this when they get

the

"last season" mentality.

To me, the last series had nothing to do with either classic Holmes
*or*
the world Moffat had built. It was all about ideas unrelated to
Holmes:
a dreamy take on a child too intellectually gifted to function, a
look
at a serial killer with money and power, and... um, I've forgotten
the
third, but I'm pretty sure it had nothing to do with Holmes.

Which was why I questioned "why'd they do that when they stil had
plenty of
Holmes source material to use?"

I can't remember the third, either, unless the child you reference is
not
his sister.

I think Moffat had just lost interest in the series, so he took other
ideas and crowbarred them into the Sherlock setting. There, now you
have
those Sherlock scripts you've been bothering me about.

That could be the reason. Some of them felt like potential Dr. Who
type
ideas. Too bad if that is the reason... when they were doing "Holmes"
things, the show was quite good.


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That could be the reason. Some of them felt like potential Dr. Who
type
ideas. Too bad if that is the reason... when they were doing

"Holmes"

things, the show was quite good.

They'd implied that they planned to bring back Moriarty somehow. I
don't
think they had a plan, but people were expecting it, so he was added
in
to Eurus' plan.

That they did. I was actually thinking maybe his conscience would turn
out
to be uploaded to a computer system maintained by his syndicate... so
he'd
sort of be like an evil Max Headroom. :D

Also, amnesia. So much amnesia. In Sherlock S4, you could get amnesia
just from being surprised. I guess it's no surprise he ended with
amnesia about his sister and superamnesia about his best friend,
since
it's so common.

They really overused amnesia in that season, yes. I thought some of
his
issues were drug induced, though.


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In article <756395881@darkrealms.ca>,
Dumas Walker <NOSPAM.Dumas.Walker@darkrealms.ca> wrote:

That could be the reason. Some of them felt like potential Dr. Who
type
ideas. Too bad if that is the reason... when they were doing

"Holmes"

things, the show was quite good.

They'd implied that they planned to bring back Moriarty somehow. I
don't
think they had a plan, but people were expecting it, so he was added
in
to Eurus' plan.

That they did. I was actually thinking maybe his conscience would turn
out
to be uploaded to a computer system maintained by his syndicate... so
he'd
sort of be like an evil Max Headroom. :D

Also, amnesia. So much amnesia. In Sherlock S4, you could get amnesia
just from being surprised. I guess it's no surprise he ended with
amnesia about his sister and superamnesia about his best friend,
since
it's so common.

They really overused amnesia in that season, yes. I thought some of
his
issues were drug induced, though.

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Drugs all right.
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