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    From Louis Epstein@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 2 04:25:53 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.tolkien

    One thing I hope was handled decisively early in the
    Fourth Age was the destruction of the Watcher in the Water,
    whether by Aragorn's troops or Khazad out to avenge Oin
    or some collaborative effort or whoever.

    What would have been needed beyond the destruction
    of the dam on the Sirannon that secured its habitat
    and thereby imperiled any travelling mellon?

    I don't know if it would have simply suffocated exposed
    to air,but any protesting tentacles would have needed
    and deserved to be amputated.

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  • From MummyChunk@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 12 03:37:40 2024
    Louis Epstein wrote:
    One thing I hope was handled decisively early in the
    Fourth Age was the destruction of the Watcher in the Water,
    whether by Aragorn's troops or Khazad out to avenge Oin
    or some collaborative effort or whoever.

    What would have been needed beyond the destruction
    of the dam on the Sirannon that secured its habitat
    and thereby imperiled any travelling mellon?

    I don't know if it would have simply suffocated exposed
    to air,but any protesting tentacles would have needed
    and deserved to be amputated.

    -=-=-
    The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
    at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

    I
    agree that the Watcher in the Water was a menace that should have been
    dealt with in the Fourth Age. However, I doubt that destroying the dam
    on the Sirannon would have been enough to kill it. According to
    Tolkien, the Watcher was a mysterious creature that came from the dark
    waters under the mountains. It may have had a connection to the
    ancient evil of Morgoth, the first Dark Lord. Therefore, it is
    possible that the Watcher could survive in other environments, or even
    retreat to the depths of Moria. To ensure its destruction, I think a
    more direct attack would have been necessary, perhaps with the aid of
    magic or powerful weapons. As for the tentacles, I agree that they
    deserved to be cut off, but I wonder if they would have regenerated,
    like some real-world animals can do. What do you think?


    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=658352481#658352481

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  • From Louis Epstein@21:1/5 to MummyChunk on Wed Jan 24 16:33:50 2024
    MummyChunk <mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote:

    Louis Epstein wrote:
    One thing I hope was handled decisively early in the
    Fourth Age was the destruction of the Watcher in the Water,
    whether by Aragorn's troops or Khazad out to avenge Oin
    or some collaborative effort or whoever.

    What would have been needed beyond the destruction
    of the dam on the Sirannon that secured its habitat
    and thereby imperiled any travelling mellon?

    I don't know if it would have simply suffocated exposed
    to air,but any protesting tentacles would have needed
    and deserved to be amputated.

    -=-=-
    The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
    at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

    I
    agree that the Watcher in the Water was a menace that should have been
    dealt with in the Fourth Age. However, I doubt that destroying the dam
    on the Sirannon would have been enough to kill it. According to
    Tolkien, the Watcher was a mysterious creature that came from the dark
    waters under the mountains. It may have had a connection to the
    ancient evil of Morgoth, the first Dark Lord. Therefore, it is
    possible that the Watcher could survive in other environments, or even retreat to the depths of Moria. To ensure its destruction, I think a
    more direct attack would have been necessary, perhaps with the aid of
    magic or powerful weapons. As for the tentacles, I agree that they
    deserved to be cut off, but I wonder if they would have regenerated,
    like some real-world animals can do. What do you think?

    Obviously the expedition destroying the dam should be heavily armed
    and prepared to deal with the Watcher's reactions.(Not sure if the
    computer game recently released about a Fourth Age return to Moria
    has dealing with the Watcher as a centerpiece or an impossibility or
    what).

    Might it,as a water-creature,be particularly susceptible to fire?

    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=658352481#658352481

    -=-=-
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    at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

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