• Re: Hollywood Celebrities Ask Trump for Help Against AI

    From Pluted Pup@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 21 15:07:07 2025
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    On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 16:02:51 -0700, BTR1701 wrote:

    Ben Stiller, Mark Ruffalo and More Than 400 Hollywood Names Urge Trump to Not Let AI Companies Exploit Copyrighted Works

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/ben-stiller-mark-ruffalo-more-215500154.html

    This statement makes sense to me:

    "It is clear that Google (valued at $2Tn) and OpenAI (valued at
    over $157Bn) are arguing for a special government exemption so
    they can freely exploit America´s creative and knowledge
    industries, despite their substantial revenues and available
    funds. There is no reason to weaken or eliminate the copyright
    protections that have helped America flourish. Not when AI
    companies can use our copyrighted material by simply doing what
    the law requires: negotiating appropriate licenses with copyright
    holders - just as every other industry does. Access to America´s
    creative catalog of films, writing, video content, and music is
    not a matter of national security. They do not require a
    government-mandated exemption from existing U.S. copyright law."

    Granting exemptions to Google to violate copyright
    laws is a subsidy of Google by the taxpayers, a vast
    power to be used exclusively by the Google corporations.
    There is already illegally subsidized monopolization by Google,
    and this furthers it, effectively prohibiting competition
    to Google.

    I'm reminded of Google's illegal dealings in federal court
    in partnership with the American Association Of Publishers,
    feigning as adversaries, tried to get the judge to decree a
    global monopoly on "orphan" works to Google. Judge Ito
    denied it, a hero to orphans, a disappointment to those
    who see that monopolization is inevitable and therefore
    desirable. Where's the actual move to re-publish
    orphan works, because that cause is not served by decreeing
    Google to be the world's exclusive "royal" publisher.

    Or the new British "law" that says that hate speech
    is illegal but gives exemptions to specific news
    organizations, where a reader parrots or rebuts an
    approved privately owned news source and it's technically
    an imprisonable offense to do so. Other, "non-royal"
    news sources are not permitted to compete.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 21 23:05:46 2025
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    On Mar 21, 2025 at 3:07:07 PM PDT, "Pluted Pup" <plutedpup@outlook.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 16:02:51 -0700, BTR1701 wrote:

    Ben Stiller, Mark Ruffalo and More Than 400 Hollywood Names Urge Trump to >> Not
    Let AI Companies Exploit Copyrighted Works

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/ben-stiller-mark-ruffalo-more-215500154.html

    This statement makes sense to me:

    "It is clear that Google (valued at $2Tn) and OpenAI (valued at
    over $157Bn) are arguing for a special government exemption so
    they can freely exploit America´s creative and knowledge
    industries, despite their substantial revenues and available
    funds. There is no reason to weaken or eliminate the copyright
    protections that have helped America flourish. Not when AI
    companies can use our copyrighted material by simply doing what
    the law requires: negotiating appropriate licenses with copyright
    holders - just as every other industry does. Access to America´s
    creative catalog of films, writing, video content, and music is
    not a matter of national security. They do not require a
    government-mandated exemption from existing U.S. copyright law."

    Granting exemptions to Google to violate copyright
    laws is a subsidy of Google by the taxpayers, a vast
    power to be used exclusively by the Google corporations.
    There is already illegally subsidized monopolization by Google,
    and this furthers it, effectively prohibiting competition
    to Google.

    I'm reminded of Google's illegal dealings in federal court
    in partnership with the American Association Of Publishers,
    feigning as adversaries, tried to get the judge to decree a
    global monopoly on "orphan" works to Google. Judge Ito
    denied it, a hero to orphans, a disappointment to those
    who see that monopolization is inevitable and therefore
    desirable. Where's the actual move to re-publish
    orphan works, because that cause is not served by decreeing
    Google to be the world's exclusive "royal" publisher.

    Or the new British "law" that says that hate speech
    is illegal but gives exemptions to specific news
    organizations, where a reader parrots or rebuts an
    approved privately owned news source and it's technically
    an imprisonable offense to do so. Other, "non-royal"
    news sources are not permitted to compete.

    All that's great but it doesn't address the rank hypocrisy of all these Hollywood elitists spending the better part of a decade calling a guy "worse than Hitler", then expecting his help when it comes to protecting their livelihoods.

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 21 22:22:11 2025
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    On 3/21/2025 7:05 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Mar 21, 2025 at 3:07:07 PM PDT, "Pluted Pup" <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 16:02:51 -0700, BTR1701 wrote:

    Ben Stiller, Mark Ruffalo and More Than 400 Hollywood Names Urge Trump to >>> Not
    Let AI Companies Exploit Copyrighted Works

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/ben-stiller-mark-ruffalo-more-215500154.html >>
    This statement makes sense to me:

    "It is clear that Google (valued at $2Tn) and OpenAI (valued at
    over $157Bn) are arguing for a special government exemption so
    they can freely exploit America´s creative and knowledge
    industries, despite their substantial revenues and available
    funds. There is no reason to weaken or eliminate the copyright
    protections that have helped America flourish. Not when AI
    companies can use our copyrighted material by simply doing what
    the law requires: negotiating appropriate licenses with copyright
    holders - just as every other industry does. Access to America´s
    creative catalog of films, writing, video content, and music is
    not a matter of national security. They do not require a
    government-mandated exemption from existing U.S. copyright law."

    Granting exemptions to Google to violate copyright
    laws is a subsidy of Google by the taxpayers, a vast
    power to be used exclusively by the Google corporations.
    There is already illegally subsidized monopolization by Google,
    and this furthers it, effectively prohibiting competition
    to Google.

    I'm reminded of Google's illegal dealings in federal court
    in partnership with the American Association Of Publishers,
    feigning as adversaries, tried to get the judge to decree a
    global monopoly on "orphan" works to Google. Judge Ito
    denied it, a hero to orphans, a disappointment to those
    who see that monopolization is inevitable and therefore
    desirable. Where's the actual move to re-publish
    orphan works, because that cause is not served by decreeing
    Google to be the world's exclusive "royal" publisher.

    Or the new British "law" that says that hate speech
    is illegal but gives exemptions to specific news
    organizations, where a reader parrots or rebuts an
    approved privately owned news source and it's technically
    an imprisonable offense to do so. Other, "non-royal"
    news sources are not permitted to compete.

    All that's great but it doesn't address the rank hypocrisy of all these Hollywood elitists spending the better part of a decade calling a guy "worse than Hitler", then expecting his help when it comes to protecting their livelihoods.

    They may not have understood the "help" to depend on personal affinity.

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