• Re: xkcd: Range Safety

    From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to lynnmcguire5@gmail.com on Fri Jan 5 08:17:58 2024
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    On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 17:33:14 -0600, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    xkcd: Range Safety
    https://xkcd.com/2876/

    I am fairly sure that I have never met a Range Danger Officer.

    Or a Range Mischief Officer?

    Explained at:
    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2876
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Paul S Person on Fri Jan 5 10:12:20 2024
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    On 1/5/2024 8:17 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 17:33:14 -0600, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    xkcd: Range Safety
    https://xkcd.com/2876/

    I am fairly sure that I have never met a Range Danger Officer.

    Or a Range Mischief Officer?

    How about the government agency from a 1940s-50s era short story who's
    purpose was to sabotage and slow down the rest of the government because
    it had become too efficient and fast so the voters didn't have time to
    give input on bills before they were made law? I remember one of the
    specific examples was waxing a floor to the point where government
    messengers would slip and fall, delaying their deliveries.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From Jay E. Morris@21:1/5 to Paul S Person on Fri Jan 5 14:27:53 2024
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    On 1/5/2024 10:17 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 17:33:14 -0600, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    xkcd: Range Safety
    https://xkcd.com/2876/

    I am fairly sure that I have never met a Range Danger Officer.

    Or a Range Mischief Officer?

    Explained at:
    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2876

    Mischief went on in the control room but there was no officer
    controlling it.

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to dtravel@sonic.net on Sat Jan 6 09:21:39 2024
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    On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 10:12:20 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    On 1/5/2024 8:17 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 17:33:14 -0600, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    xkcd: Range Safety
    https://xkcd.com/2876/

    I am fairly sure that I have never met a Range Danger Officer.

    Or a Range Mischief Officer?

    How about the government agency from a 1940s-50s era short story who's >purpose was to sabotage and slow down the rest of the government because
    it had become too efficient and fast so the voters didn't have time to
    give input on bills before they were made law? I remember one of the >specific examples was waxing a floor to the point where government >messengers would slip and fall, delaying their deliveries.

    A year or two before I retired, the various bits of the IRS that used
    the same chapter of the Internal Revenue Manual that we did got
    together and decided to rewrite that chapter.

    The goal being to actually make it usable with endless working aids
    and SOPs and sticky notes and so on.

    They were not allowed to do it. There was, it turned out, an office in
    the IRS with its own chapter in the IRM and that chapter laid out how
    the other chapters were to be written.

    This, apparently, was to be as useless to the actual workers as
    possible.

    Instead, our group created a single computerized checklist that we
    used instead. By the time I left it had not only the basic calls
    covered, but about 30 special cases for us to identify and
    instructions for how to handle them.

    But it wasn't part of the IRM. Honor (or at least Stupidity) was
    satisfied.

    So the gummint agency you reference may not have been /entirely/
    fictional. It may live on, at least in spirit.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From Dave@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Sat Jan 6 16:29:35 2024
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    On 1/4/24 15:33, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    xkcd: Range Safety
       https://xkcd.com/2876/

    I am fairly sure that I have never met a Range Danger Officer.

    Explained at:
       https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2876

    Lynn

    A guy I worked with at Condor Systems was in a bunker, somewhere, about
    600 yards from the launch of a Delta II (if I remember correctly). The
    Range Danger Officer was on site that day. They all thought they were
    going to die.

    --
    Dave Scruggs
    Captain, Boulder Creek Fire (Retired)
    Sr. Software Engineer (Retired, mostly)

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  • From Joe Pfeiffer@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Sat Jan 6 18:21:39 2024
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    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:

    xkcd: Range Safety
    https://xkcd.com/2876/

    I am fairly sure that I have never met a Range Danger Officer.

    Someone in a rocketry forum I subscribe to suggested that the RSO is the
    only person present who *isn't* an RDO.

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  • From Dorothy J Heydt@21:1/5 to lynnmcguire5@gmail.com on Tue Jan 9 15:39:48 2024
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    In article <un7f7r$3qsri$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    xkcd: Range Safety
    https://xkcd.com/2876/

    I am fairly sure that I have never met a Range Danger Officer.

    Explained at:
    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2876

    [Hal Heydt]
    G. Harry Stine in his book _Rocket Power and Space Flight_ cited
    the time a range saftey officer borrowed a rifle from a guard and
    shot holes in the tanks of Viking rocket. After that incident,
    tanks had targets painted on them to show where to shoot should
    the problem recur.

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 9 08:53:13 2024
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    On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 15:39:48 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
    wrote:

    In article <un7f7r$3qsri$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    xkcd: Range Safety
    https://xkcd.com/2876/

    I am fairly sure that I have never met a Range Danger Officer.

    Explained at:
    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2876

    [Hal Heydt]
    G. Harry Stine in his book _Rocket Power and Space Flight_ cited
    the time a range saftey officer borrowed a rifle from a guard and
    shot holes in the tanks of Viking rocket. After that incident,
    tanks had targets painted on them to show where to shoot should
    the problem recur.

    IIRC, the recent Mainland China military purge was motivated, in part,
    by the discovery that a lot of /their/ rockets were fueled with ...
    water.

    Well, that certainly makes them /safe/.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From Christian Weisgerber@21:1/5 to Paul S Person on Tue Jan 9 18:50:08 2024
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    On 2024-01-09, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

    IIRC, the recent Mainland China military purge was motivated, in part,
    by the discovery that a lot of /their/ rockets were fueled with ...
    water.

    Something that is unlikely to ever be used makes an excellent target
    for embezzlement. Who would ever notice that there's nothing behind
    the Potemkin front?

    I'm reminded of Michael Crichton's _Sphere_ (because I just mentioned
    this over on the German group): When the occasion arises, the
    handbook for alien first contact is taken from a report commissioned
    by the government, whose author is quite appalled to discover this,
    because given the low likelihood of the event he didn't take the
    issue seriously and just made stuff up.

    --
    Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de

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  • From Thomas Koenig@21:1/5 to Dorothy J Heydt on Tue Jan 9 20:03:47 2024
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    Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> schrieb:
    In article <un7f7r$3qsri$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    xkcd: Range Safety
    https://xkcd.com/2876/

    I am fairly sure that I have never met a Range Danger Officer.

    Explained at:
    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2876

    [Hal Heydt]
    G. Harry Stine in his book _Rocket Power and Space Flight_ cited
    the time a range saftey officer borrowed a rifle from a guard and
    shot holes in the tanks of Viking rocket. After that incident,
    tanks had targets painted on them to show where to shoot should
    the problem recur.

    What problem was that?

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  • From Mad Hamish@21:1/5 to tkoenig@netcologne.de on Tue Feb 6 14:17:45 2024
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    On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 20:03:47 -0000 (UTC), Thomas Koenig
    <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:

    Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> schrieb:
    In article <un7f7r$3qsri$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    xkcd: Range Safety
    https://xkcd.com/2876/

    I am fairly sure that I have never met a Range Danger Officer.

    Explained at:
    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2876

    [Hal Heydt]
    G. Harry Stine in his book _Rocket Power and Space Flight_ cited
    the time a range saftey officer borrowed a rifle from a guard and
    shot holes in the tanks of Viking rocket. After that incident,
    tanks had targets painted on them to show where to shoot should
    the problem recur.

    What problem was that?

    Difficult to aim at

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