• Over The Hedge: Cow Slime

    From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 20 14:04:54 2021
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    Over The Hedge: Cow Slime
    https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/20

    I love cheese, the sharper the better. I like all kinds though.

    Lynn

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  • From Robert Woodward@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Mon Dec 20 21:57:17 2021
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    In article <spqnl6$tqk$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    Over The Hedge: Cow Slime
    https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/20

    I love cheese, the sharper the better. I like all kinds though.


    OBSF Reference: The "bug butter" in _A Civil Campaign_ by Lois McMaster
    Bujold.

    --
    "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
    Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. —-----------------------------------------------------
    Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com

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  • From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to Robert Woodward on Tue Dec 21 13:39:46 2021
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    On 12/20/2021 11:57 PM, Robert Woodward wrote:
    In article <spqnl6$tqk$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    Over The Hedge: Cow Slime
    https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/20

    I love cheese, the sharper the better. I like all kinds though.


    OBSF Reference: The "bug butter" in _A Civil Campaign_ by Lois McMaster Bujold.

    Ewwww !

    Lynn

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to Dorothy J Heydt on Tue Dec 21 23:10:15 2021
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    djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) writes:
    In article <sptai3$uud$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/20/2021 11:57 PM, Robert Woodward wrote:
    In article <spqnl6$tqk$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    Over The Hedge: Cow Slime
    https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/20

    I love cheese, the sharper the better. I like all kinds though.


    OBSF Reference: The "bug butter" in _A Civil Campaign_ by Lois McMaster
    Bujold.

    Ewwww !

    I never read that one. Can you explain, if you can find some
    sufficiently non-gross euphemisms?

    I mean, honey can be described as bee vomit.

    Indeed, and bees are cute.

    The butter bugs were more like a cross between a cockroach and
    a dung beetle.

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  • From Dorothy J Heydt@21:1/5 to lynnmcguire5@gmail.com on Tue Dec 21 22:13:45 2021
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    In article <sptai3$uud$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/20/2021 11:57 PM, Robert Woodward wrote:
    In article <spqnl6$tqk$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    Over The Hedge: Cow Slime
    https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/20

    I love cheese, the sharper the better. I like all kinds though.


    OBSF Reference: The "bug butter" in _A Civil Campaign_ by Lois McMaster
    Bujold.

    Ewwww !

    I never read that one. Can you explain, if you can find some
    sufficiently non-gross euphemisms?

    I mean, honey can be described as bee vomit.

    --
    Dorothy J. Heydt
    Vallejo, California
    djheydt at gmail dot com
    Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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  • From J. Clarke@21:1/5 to Heydt on Tue Dec 21 18:50:29 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 22:13:45 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
    Heydt) wrote:

    In article <sptai3$uud$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/20/2021 11:57 PM, Robert Woodward wrote:
    In article <spqnl6$tqk$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    Over The Hedge: Cow Slime
    https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/20

    I love cheese, the sharper the better. I like all kinds though.


    OBSF Reference: The "bug butter" in _A Civil Campaign_ by Lois McMaster
    Bujold.

    Ewwww !

    I never read that one. Can you explain, if you can find some
    sufficiently non-gross euphemisms?

    I mean, honey can be described as bee vomit.

    The story line involving "bug butter" is that it is a tasty and
    nutritious substance produced by bioengineered insects with the result
    that Hilarity Ensues.

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  • From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to Dorothy J Heydt on Tue Dec 21 18:11:52 2021
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    On 12/21/2021 4:13 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <sptai3$uud$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/20/2021 11:57 PM, Robert Woodward wrote:
    In article <spqnl6$tqk$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    Over The Hedge: Cow Slime
    https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/20

    I love cheese, the sharper the better. I like all kinds though.


    OBSF Reference: The "bug butter" in _A Civil Campaign_ by Lois McMaster
    Bujold.

    Ewwww !

    I never read that one. Can you explain, if you can find some
    sufficiently non-gross euphemisms?

    I mean, honey can be described as bee vomit.

    Bees are cute, butter bugs are not. Until, they are genetically
    engineered to be cute.

    Dorothy, you need to read the Vorkosigan series ! I would equate the
    series to 17th ??? century Prussia in the hundred years war. In other
    words, romance in a time of continuous strife set in a space opera.
    Yes, there is military action but there is also one of the finest sets
    of interesting characters developed in an SF/F book.

    The very first book Lois McMaster Bujold wrote, "Shards Of Honor", is
    the best of the entire series, published in 1986.

    https://www.amazon.com/Shards-Honor-Vorkosigan-McMaster-Bujold/dp/1476781109/ and
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shards_of_Honor

    Jo Walton even wrote a column about the book in 2009:

    https://www.tor.com/2009/03/31/weeping-for-her-enemies-lois-mcmaster-bujolds-shards-of-honor/

    The fourth book and the fourteenth book in the series are the next most excellent books in the series. The fourth book won the Hugo award in
    1992. The 14th was nominated for the Hugo award in 2000. The 14th book
    has butter bugs running as a subplot where Miles is wooing Ekaterin.
    Several subplots in that book.

    https://www.amazon.com/Civil-Campaign-Lois-McMaster-Bujold/dp/0671578855/
    and
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Civil_Campaign

    Vorkosigan Saga (Chronological) by Lois McMaster Bujold
    https://www.goodreads.com/series/98254-vorkosigan-saga-chronological
    1. Dreamweaver's Dilemma
    2. Falling Free
    3. Shards of Honor
    4. Barrayar
    5. The Warrior's Apprentice
    6. The Borders of Infinity (The Mountains of Mourning, etc)
    7. The Vor Game
    8. Cetaganda
    9. Ethan Of Athos
    10. Brothers in Arms
    11. Mirror Dance
    12. Memory
    13. Komarr
    14. A Civil Campaign
    15. Diplomatic Immunity
    16. Captain Vorpatril's Alliance
    17. CryoBurn
    18. Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen

    Lynn

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  • From Dorothy J Heydt@21:1/5 to lynnmcguire5@gmail.com on Wed Dec 22 04:14:23 2021
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    In article <sptqga$h0j$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/21/2021 4:13 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <sptai3$uud$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/20/2021 11:57 PM, Robert Woodward wrote:
    In article <spqnl6$tqk$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    Over The Hedge: Cow Slime
    https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/20

    I love cheese, the sharper the better. I like all kinds though.


    OBSF Reference: The "bug butter" in _A Civil Campaign_ by Lois McMaster >>>> Bujold.

    Ewwww !

    I never read that one. Can you explain, if you can find some
    sufficiently non-gross euphemisms?

    I mean, honey can be described as bee vomit.

    Bees are cute, butter bugs are not. Until, they are genetically
    engineered to be cute.

    Dorothy, you need to read the Vorkosigan series !

    I read the first few of them. Then I came across the one with
    the genetically engineered cat blanket. I'd already encountered
    some examples of squicky genetics in Bujold's work. Then someone
    reviewed the next book, saying _inter alia_ "If you're a cat
    person, when you encounter the word 'kitten,' close the book and
    don't open it again."

    So I didn't open it in the first place.

    --
    Dorothy J. Heydt
    Vallejo, California
    djheydt at gmail dot com
    Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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  • From Dorothy J Heydt@21:1/5 to lynnmcguire5@gmail.com on Wed Dec 22 06:06:19 2021
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    In article <spucpu$r0t$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/21/2021 10:14 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <sptqga$h0j$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/21/2021 4:13 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:

    Dorothy, you need to read the Vorkosigan series !

    I read the first few of them. Then I came across the one with
    the genetically engineered cat blanket. I'd already encountered
    some examples of squicky genetics in Bujold's work. Then someone
    reviewed the next book, saying _inter alia_ "If you're a cat
    person, when you encounter the word 'kitten,' close the book and
    don't open it again."

    So I didn't open it in the first place.

    I know what the nasty is. The book is "Cetaganda". Yes, you would be >offended by the device that the author used to show how perverted the >Cetaganda society is.

    I had already figured that out at the time.

    Wait, skip "Ethan
    of Athos" also if you do not want to read about a planet of men only.

    I've read that one. Not particularly distressing, but not
    something I'd want to read again.

    --
    Dorothy J. Heydt
    Vallejo, California
    djheydt at gmail dot com
    Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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  • From Robert Woodward@21:1/5 to J. Clarke on Tue Dec 21 22:04:41 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    In article <btp4sgdt621h1vgihan3v8docnqfl4suc7@4ax.com>,
    J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 22:13:45 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
    Heydt) wrote:

    In article <sptai3$uud$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/20/2021 11:57 PM, Robert Woodward wrote:
    In article <spqnl6$tqk$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    Over The Hedge: Cow Slime
    https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/20

    I love cheese, the sharper the better. I like all kinds though.


    OBSF Reference: The "bug butter" in _A Civil Campaign_ by Lois McMaster >>> Bujold.

    Ewwww !

    I never read that one. Can you explain, if you can find some
    sufficiently non-gross euphemisms?

    I mean, honey can be described as bee vomit.

    The story line involving "bug butter" is that it is a tasty and
    nutritious substance produced by bioengineered insects with the result
    that Hilarity Ensues.

    IIRC, a bioengineered bacterial suite was involved as well.

    --
    "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
    Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. -------------------------------------------------------
    Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com

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  • From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to Dorothy J Heydt on Tue Dec 21 23:24:12 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 12/21/2021 10:14 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <sptqga$h0j$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/21/2021 4:13 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <sptai3$uud$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/20/2021 11:57 PM, Robert Woodward wrote:
    In article <spqnl6$tqk$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    Over The Hedge: Cow Slime
    https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/20

    I love cheese, the sharper the better. I like all kinds though.


    OBSF Reference: The "bug butter" in _A Civil Campaign_ by Lois McMaster >>>>> Bujold.

    Ewwww !

    I never read that one. Can you explain, if you can find some
    sufficiently non-gross euphemisms?

    I mean, honey can be described as bee vomit.

    Bees are cute, butter bugs are not. Until, they are genetically
    engineered to be cute.

    Dorothy, you need to read the Vorkosigan series !

    I read the first few of them. Then I came across the one with
    the genetically engineered cat blanket. I'd already encountered
    some examples of squicky genetics in Bujold's work. Then someone
    reviewed the next book, saying _inter alia_ "If you're a cat
    person, when you encounter the word 'kitten,' close the book and
    don't open it again."

    So I didn't open it in the first place.

    I know what the nasty is. The book is "Cetaganda". Yes, you would be
    offended by the device that the author used to show how perverted the
    Cetaganda society is.

    But you can probably skip "Cetaganda" book and read.. Wait, skip "Ethan
    of Athos" also if you do not want to read about a planet of men only.
    Skip to "Brothers In Arms".
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    Don't read past here if you do not want to know about the kittens...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    Don't read past here...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    Don't read past here...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...

    The book "Cetaganda" has a kitten tree where the forefronts of the
    kittens were genetically merged with a tree. When Ivan tried to remove
    one of the kittens from the tree, the kitten font end came away from the
    tree and it died. Horrifying. Miles and Ivan were horrified in the
    book too.

    Lynn

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  • From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to Dorothy J Heydt on Wed Dec 22 01:11:15 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 12/22/2021 12:06 AM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <spucpu$r0t$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/21/2021 10:14 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <sptqga$h0j$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/21/2021 4:13 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:

    Dorothy, you need to read the Vorkosigan series !

    I read the first few of them. Then I came across the one with
    the genetically engineered cat blanket. I'd already encountered
    some examples of squicky genetics in Bujold's work. Then someone
    reviewed the next book, saying _inter alia_ "If you're a cat
    person, when you encounter the word 'kitten,' close the book and
    don't open it again."

    So I didn't open it in the first place.

    I know what the nasty is. The book is "Cetaganda". Yes, you would be
    offended by the device that the author used to show how perverted the
    Cetaganda society is.

    I had already figured that out at the time.

    Wait, skip "Ethan
    of Athos" also if you do not want to read about a planet of men only.

    I've read that one. Not particularly distressing, but not
    something I'd want to read again.

    Then I would jump to "Brothers In Arms". BIA through "Komarr" explains
    the subplots in "A Civil Campaign". And they are great subplots
    involving cloning, cryosleep, accidental death, imperial marriage, plots
    to destroy the wormhole for Barrayar, etc.

    Vorkosigan Saga (Chronological) by Lois McMaster Bujold
    https://www.goodreads.com/series/98254-vorkosigan-saga-chronological
    1. Dreamweaver's Dilemma
    2. Falling Free
    3. Shards of Honor
    4. Barrayar
    5. The Warrior's Apprentice
    6. The Borders of Infinity (The Mountains of Mourning, etc)
    7. The Vor Game
    8. Cetaganda
    9. Ethan Of Athos
    10. Brothers in Arms
    11. Mirror Dance
    12. Memory
    13. Komarr
    14. A Civil Campaign
    15. Diplomatic Immunity
    16. Captain Vorpatril's Alliance
    17. CryoBurn
    18. Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen

    Lynn

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