• THE WORD JEDI IS PROBLEMATIC?! | Film Threat News

    From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 15 04:32:03 2024
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    Why the Term ‘JEDI’ Is Problematic for Describing Programs That Promote Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Mon Jul 15 11:18:10 2024
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    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    Why the Term ‘JEDI’ Is Problematic for Describing Programs That Promote Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...

    This is more like scientific Canadian

    Based on a paper written by a bunch of idiot academics with really stupid titles and fields of interest



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  • From Pluted Pup@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Mon Jul 15 15:40:50 2024
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    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term `JEDI´ Is Problematic for Describing Programs That Promote Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...

    Excerpts from the complete URL for the Opinion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-term-jedi-is-problematic-for-describing-programs-that-promote-justice-equity-diversity-and-inclusion/

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although
    they´re ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi
    are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious
    order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism
    and toxically masculine approaches to conflict resolution
    (violent duels with phallic lightsabers, gaslighting by means of
    "Jedi mind tricks," etc.). The Jedi are also an exclusionary
    cult, membership to which is partly predicated on the possession
    of heightened psychic and physical abilities (or
    "Force-sensitivity"). Strikingly, Force-wielding talents are
    narratively explained in Star Wars not merely in spiritual terms
    but also in ableist and eugenic ones: These supernatural powers
    are naturalized as biological, hereditary attributes. So it is
    that Force potential is framed as a dynastic property of noble
    bloodlines (for example, the Skywalker dynasty), and Force
    disparities are rendered innate physical properties, measurable
    via "midi-chlorian" counts (not unlike a "Force genetics" test)
    and augmentable via human(oid) engineering. The heroic Jedi are
    thus emblems for a host of dangerously reactionary values and
    assumptions."

    After that hate filled rant, the writers include a
    hint of common sense:

    "JEDI connects justice initiatives to corporate capital. JEDI/Jedi is more than just a name: It´s a product. Circulating that
    product´s name can promote and benefit the corporation that owns
    it, even if we do not mean to do so. We are, in effect, providing
    that corporation-Disney-with a form of free advertising,
    commodifying and cheapening our justice work in the process."

    It's a brand name! But the authors "justice work" is already a
    cheap and commodified product of corporate capital, and
    their "racial hatred against whites is always justified"
    mentality is plain sadistic and is intended to politically
    sterilize whites and prevent them from criticizing Capital.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Pluted Pup on Tue Jul 16 12:32:43 2024
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    On 2024-07-15 22:40:50 +0000, Pluted Pup said:

    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term `JEDI´ Is Problematic for Describing Programs That Promote
    Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...

    Excerpts from the complete URL for the Opinion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-term-jedi-is-problematic-for-describing-programs-that-promote-justice-equity-diversity-and-inclusion/


    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although
    they´re ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi
    are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious
    order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism
    and toxically masculine approaches to conflict resolution
    (violent duels with phallic lightsabers, gaslighting by means of
    "Jedi mind tricks," etc.). The Jedi are also an exclusionary
    cult, membership to which is partly predicated on the possession
    of heightened psychic and physical abilities (or
    "Force-sensitivity"). Strikingly, Force-wielding talents are
    narratively explained in Star Wars not merely in spiritual terms
    but also in ableist and eugenic ones: These supernatural powers
    are naturalized as biological, hereditary attributes. So it is
    that Force potential is framed as a dynastic property of noble
    bloodlines (for example, the Skywalker dynasty), and Force
    disparities are rendered innate physical properties, measurable
    via "midi-chlorian" counts (not unlike a "Force genetics" test)
    and augmentable via human(oid) engineering. The heroic Jedi are
    thus emblems for a host of dangerously reactionary values and
    assumptions."

    After that hate filled rant, the writers include a
    hint of common sense:

    "JEDI connects justice initiatives to corporate capital. JEDI/Jedi is
    more than just a name: It´s a product. Circulating that
    product´s name can promote and benefit the corporation that owns
    it, even if we do not mean to do so. We are, in effect, providing
    that corporation-Disney-with a form of free advertising,
    commodifying and cheapening our justice work in the process."

    It's a brand name! But the authors "justice work" is already a
    cheap and commodified product of corporate capital, and
    their "racial hatred against whites is always justified"
    mentality is plain sadistic and is intended to politically
    sterilize whites and prevent them from criticizing Capital.

    What a complete load of utter bollocks that quoted excerpt is! :-\

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to Pluted Pup on Mon Jul 15 19:29:04 2024
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    In article <0001HW.2C45DCF200550CAF30F40C38F@news.giganews.com>,
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That Promote Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...

    Excerpts from the complete URL for the Opinion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-term-jedi-is-problematic-fo
    r-describing-programs-that-promote-justice-equity-diversity-and-inclusion/

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although
    they´re ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi
    are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious
    order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism

    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human, and of
    the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    Is this like the African-American Vulcan nonsense on STAR TREK?

    and toxically masculine approaches to conflict resolution
    (violent duels with phallic lightsabers, gaslighting by means of
    "Jedi mind tricks," etc.). The Jedi are also an exclusionary
    cult, membership to which is partly predicated on the possession
    of heightened psychic and physical abilities (or
    "Force-sensitivity").

    Well, yeah. If you can't use the Force, it's impossible to be a Jedi.
    It's pretty much in the definition.

    It's like saying the Chicago Symphony is a bigoted organization
    predicated on the possession of heightened musical ability to the
    exclusion of everyone else.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Mon Jul 15 20:09:05 2024
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    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    In article <0001HW.2C45DCF200550CAF30F40C38F@news.giganews.com>,
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That Promote
    Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...

    Excerpts from the complete URL for the Opinion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-term-jedi-is-problematic-fo
    r-describing-programs-that-promote-justice-equity-diversity-and-inclusion/ >>
    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although
    they´re ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi
    are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious
    order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism

    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human, and of
    the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    Is this like the African-American Vulcan nonsense on STAR TREK?


    You remember that too? The wounded woke screaming that of course there are African-American Volans, and Native American Vulcans, and Asian American Volans.




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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 16 03:47:07 2024
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    On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <0001HW.2C45DCF200550CAF30F40C38F@news.giganews.com>,
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That Promote
    Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...

    Excerpts from the complete URL for the Opinion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-term-jedi-is-problematic-fo
    r-describing-programs-that-promote-justice-equity-diversity-and-inclusion/ >>
    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although
    they´re ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi
    are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious
    order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism

    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human, and of
    the humans, plenty of them are non-white?


    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one token
    black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney and the DEI
    version came along.



    Is this like the African-American Vulcan nonsense on STAR TREK?

    and toxically masculine approaches to conflict resolution
    (violent duels with phallic lightsabers, gaslighting by means of
    "Jedi mind tricks," etc.). The Jedi are also an exclusionary
    cult, membership to which is partly predicated on the possession
    of heightened psychic and physical abilities (or
    "Force-sensitivity").

    Well, yeah. If you can't use the Force, it's impossible to be a Jedi.
    It's pretty much in the definition.

    It's like saying the Chicago Symphony is a bigoted organization
    predicated on the possession of heightened musical ability to the
    exclusion of everyone else.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Sandra Hees@21:1/5 to weberm@polaris.net on Tue Jul 16 20:18:04 2024
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    In article <DVOdna_YctTCfAn7nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com>, weberm@polaris.net wrote:

    Why the Term ‘JEDI’ Is Problematic for Describing Programs That Promote >Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-term-jedi-is-problematic-for-describing-programs-that-promote-justice-equity-diversity-and-inclusion/

    Why don't they ask George Lucas what it means instead of supposing what
    it means by creating absurd theories? Lucas created that universe and
    names. He's the one that really knows what every terminology means in
    the Star Wars universe

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to gmsingh@email.com on Wed Jul 17 04:30:49 2024
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    In article <gsqlO.32899$oGQf.16383@fx10.iad>, gmsingh@email.com wrote:
    On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That Promote >>>> Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-term-jedi-is-problematic-for-describing-programs-that-promote-justice-equity-diversity-and-inclusion/

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although
    they´re ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi
    are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious
    order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism

    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human, and of
    the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one token
    black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney and the DEI >version came along.

    Get back to us when you learn how to count past one.

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to anim8rfsk@cox.net on Wed Jul 17 04:30:48 2024
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    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That Promote >>>> Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-term-jedi-is-problematic-for-describing-programs-that-promote-justice-equity-diversity-and-inclusion/

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although
    they´re ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi
    are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious
    order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism

    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human, and of
    the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    Is this like the African-American Vulcan nonsense on STAR TREK?

    You remember that too? The wounded woke screaming that of course there are >African-American Volans, and Native American Vulcans, and Asian American >Volans.

    I don't see the point of making African-American or Asian-American Vorlons when they always wore those encounter suits around other races.

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Wed Jul 17 07:43:22 2024
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    In article <v78ait$1q6g8$10@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    In article <gsqlO.32899$oGQf.16383@fx10.iad>, gmsingh@email.com wrote:
    On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That Promote >>>> Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-term-jedi-is-problemat
    ic-for-describing-programs-that-promote-justice-equity-diversity-and-incl
    usion/

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although
    they're ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi
    are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious
    order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism

    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human, and of
    the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one token
    black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney and the DEI >version came along.

    Get back to us when you learn how to count past one.

    No shit. Hutt seems to rejoice in being publicly wrong about everything.

    I can think of three major black characters in Lucas's universe just off
    the top of my head without even needing to go back and look at the films:

    Finn
    Lando Calrissian
    Mace Windu

    And for some reason the grievance mongers seem to count Darth Vader as a
    black guy for purposes of complaining that the only black character in
    the original film was a villain. Apparently these lackbrains think that
    wearing black clothing makes someone a black person.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Wed Jul 17 11:38:50 2024
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    atropos@mac.com wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <gsqlO.32899$oGQf.16383@fx10.iad>, gmsingh@email.com wrote:
    On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That
    Promote
    Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-term-jedi-is- problemat
    ic-for-describing-programs-that-promote-justice-equity-diversity-and- incl
    usion/

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although
    they're ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi
    are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious
    order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism

    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human, and of >>>> the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one token >>>black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney and the DEI >>>version came along.

    Get back to us when you learn how to count past one.

    No shit. Hutt seems to rejoice in being publicly wrong about everything.

    I can think of three major black characters in Lucas's universe just off
    the top of my head without even needing to go back and look at the films:

    Finn
    Lando Calrissian
    Mace Windu

    And for some reason the grievance mongers seem to count Darth Vader as a >black guy for purposes of complaining that the only black character in
    the original film was a villain. Apparently these lackbrains think that >wearing black clothing makes someone a black person.

    James Earl Jones doesn't count; He's the world's best blackface performer. https://youtu.be/F-TkK0ZNunY

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Wed Jul 17 09:11:30 2024
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    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    In article <v78ait$1q6g8$10@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    In article <gsqlO.32899$oGQf.16383@fx10.iad>, gmsingh@email.com wrote:
    On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That Promote >>>>>> Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-term-jedi-is-problemat
    ic-for-describing-programs-that-promote-justice-equity-diversity-and-incl
    usion/

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although
    they're ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi
    are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious
    order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism

    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human, and of >>>> the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one token
    black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney and the DEI
    version came along.

    Get back to us when you learn how to count past one.

    No shit. Hutt seems to rejoice in being publicly wrong about everything.

    I can think of three major black characters in Lucas's universe just off
    the top of my head without even needing to go back and look at the films:

    Finn
    Lando Calrissian
    Mace Windu

    Ironically enough, Hutt’s captive dancer (we saw her booby)



    And for some reason the grievance mongers seem to count Darth Vader as a black guy for purposes of complaining that the only black character in
    the original film was a villain. Apparently these lackbrains think that wearing black clothing makes someone a black person.




    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to anim8rfsk@cox.net on Wed Jul 17 09:23:12 2024
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    In article
    <1527427495.742924854.599885.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    In article <v78ait$1q6g8$10@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    In article <gsqlO.32899$oGQf.16383@fx10.iad>, gmsingh@email.com wrote:
    On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That
    Promote Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although
    they're ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi
    are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious
    order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism

    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human, and of >>>> the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one token
    black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney and the DEI >>> version came along.

    Get back to us when you learn how to count past one.

    No shit. Hutt seems to rejoice in being publicly wrong about everything.

    I can think of three major black characters in Lucas's universe just off the top of my head without even needing to go back and look at the films:

    Finn
    Lando Calrissian
    Mace Windu

    Ironically enough, Hutt's captive dancer (we saw her booby)

    Does she count as black if she's painted green?

    And for some reason the grievance mongers seem to count Darth Vader as a black guy for purposes of complaining that the only black character in
    the original film was a villain. Apparently these lackbrains think that wearing black clothing makes someone a black person.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 17 14:37:59 2024
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    On 7/17/2024 10:43 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <v78ait$1q6g8$10@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    In article <gsqlO.32899$oGQf.16383@fx10.iad>, gmsingh@email.com wrote:
    On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That Promote >>>>>> Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-term-jedi-is-problemat
    ic-for-describing-programs-that-promote-justice-equity-diversity-and-incl
    usion/

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although
    they're ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi
    are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious
    order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism

    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human, and of >>>> the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one token
    black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney and the DEI
    version came along.

    Get back to us when you learn how to count past one.

    No shit. Hutt seems to rejoice in being publicly wrong about everything.

    I can think of three major black characters in Lucas's universe just off
    the top of my head without even needing to go back and look at the films:

    Finn
    Lando Calrissian
    Mace Windu

    And for some reason the grievance mongers seem to count Darth Vader as a black guy for purposes of complaining that the only black character in
    the original film was a villain. Apparently these lackbrains think that wearing black clothing makes someone a black person.

    Well, that and the actor who voiced him. Not much else to go on...

    (And it *is* arguably true that he's in black *because* he's a villain.)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to moviePig on Wed Jul 17 11:44:17 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.starwars

    In article <v79329$1v64t$1@dont-email.me>,
    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 7/17/2024 10:43 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <v78ait$1q6g8$10@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    In article <gsqlO.32899$oGQf.16383@fx10.iad>, gmsingh@email.com wrote:
    On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That
    Promote Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although
    they're ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi
    are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious
    order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism

    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human, and of >>>> the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one token
    black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney and the DEI >>> version came along.

    Get back to us when you learn how to count past one.

    No shit. Hutt seems to rejoice in being publicly wrong about everything.

    I can think of three major black characters in Lucas's universe just off the top of my head without even needing to go back and look at the films:

    Finn
    Lando Calrissian
    Mace Windu

    And for some reason the grievance mongers seem to count Darth Vader as a black guy for purposes of complaining that the only black character in
    the original film was a villain. Apparently these lackbrains think that wearing black clothing makes someone a black person.

    Well, that and the actor who voiced him. Not much else to go on...

    The actor who played him on screen was white and, most importantly,
    within the story, the character is a white guy. One's race isn't defined
    by the color of one's life support system.

    (And it *is* arguably true that he's in black *because* he's a villain.)

    There are a lot of STAR WARS villains-- Wilhuff Tarkin, for example, who murdered 5 billion people on Alderaan-- who didn't wear black.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 17 16:12:07 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.starwars

    On 7/17/2024 2:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <v79329$1v64t$1@dont-email.me>,
    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 7/17/2024 10:43 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <v78ait$1q6g8$10@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    In article <gsqlO.32899$oGQf.16383@fx10.iad>, gmsingh@email.com wrote: >>>>> On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That >>>>>>>> Promote Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although >>>>>>> they're ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi >>>>>>> are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious >>>>>>> order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism

    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human, and of >>>>>> the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one token >>>>> black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney and the DEI >>>>> version came along.

    Get back to us when you learn how to count past one.

    No shit. Hutt seems to rejoice in being publicly wrong about everything. >>>
    I can think of three major black characters in Lucas's universe just off >>> the top of my head without even needing to go back and look at the films: >>>
    Finn
    Lando Calrissian
    Mace Windu

    And for some reason the grievance mongers seem to count Darth Vader as a >>> black guy for purposes of complaining that the only black character in
    the original film was a villain. Apparently these lackbrains think that
    wearing black clothing makes someone a black person.

    Well, that and the actor who voiced him. Not much else to go on...

    The actor who played him on screen was white and, most importantly,
    within the story, the character is a white guy. One's race isn't defined
    by the color of one's life support system.

    Just one's politics, I suppose.



    (And it *is* arguably true that he's in black *because* he's a villain.)

    There are a lot of STAR WARS villains-- Wilhuff Tarkin, for example, who murdered 5 billion people on Alderaan-- who didn't wear black.

    Pale wannabes without that sonorous life support system...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Wed Jul 17 13:47:39 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.starwars

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    In article
    <1527427495.742924854.599885.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    In article <v78ait$1q6g8$10@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    In article <gsqlO.32899$oGQf.16383@fx10.iad>, gmsingh@email.com wrote: >>>>> On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That >>>>>>>> Promote Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although >>>>>>> they're ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi >>>>>>> are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious >>>>>>> order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism

    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human, and of >>>>>> the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one token >>>>> black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney and the DEI >>>>> version came along.

    Get back to us when you learn how to count past one.

    No shit. Hutt seems to rejoice in being publicly wrong about everything. >>>
    I can think of three major black characters in Lucas's universe just off >>> the top of my head without even needing to go back and look at the films: >>>
    Finn
    Lando Calrissian
    Mace Windu

    Ironically enough, Hutt's captive dancer (we saw her booby)

    Does she count as black if she's painted green?

    She’s an Agro American




    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to moviePig on Thu Jul 18 10:47:09 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.sf.tv

    On 2024-07-17 18:37:59 +0000, moviePig said:
    On 7/17/2024 10:43 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <v78ait$1q6g8$10@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    In article <gsqlO.32899$oGQf.16383@fx10.iad>, gmsingh@email.com wrote:
    On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That Promote >>>>>>> Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-term-jedi-is-problematic-for-describing-programs-that-promote-justice-equity-diversity-and-inclusion/


    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although
    they're ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi
    are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious
    order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism

    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human, and of >>>>> the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one token
    black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney and the DEI >>>> version came along.

    Get back to us when you learn how to count past one.

    No shit. Hutt seems to rejoice in being publicly wrong about everything.

    I can think of three major black characters in Lucas's universe just off
    the top of my head without even needing to go back and look at the films:

    Finn
    Lando Calrissian
    Mace Windu

    And for some reason the grievance mongers seem to count Darth Vader as a
    black guy for purposes of complaining that the only black character in
    the original film was a villain. Apparently these lackbrains think that
    wearing black clothing makes someone a black person.

    Well, that and the actor who voiced him. Not much else to go on...

    (And it *is* arguably true that he's in black *because* he's a villain.)

    Bad guys wearing black goes back to long before Star Wars. In the old
    cowboy movies, the bad guys tended to wear black hats while the good
    guys wore white hats. This was partly done so the difference showed up
    better in the early black-and-white movies and TV shows.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to Your Name on Wed Jul 17 19:09:31 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.sf.tv

    On 7/17/2024 6:47 PM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2024-07-17 18:37:59 +0000, moviePig said:
    On 7/17/2024 10:43 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <v78ait$1q6g8$10@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    In article <gsqlO.32899$oGQf.16383@fx10.iad>, gmsingh@email.com wrote: >>>>> On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That >>>>>>>> Promote Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-term-jedi-is-problematic-for-describing-programs-that-promote-justice-equity-diversity-and-inclusion/

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although >>>>>>> they're ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi >>>>>>> are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious >>>>>>> order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism

    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human,
    and of
    the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one token >>>>> black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney and the
    DEI
    version came along.

    Get back to us when you learn how to count past one.

    No shit. Hutt seems to rejoice in being publicly wrong about everything. >>>
    I can think of three major black characters in Lucas's universe just off >>> the top of my head without even needing to go back and look at the
    films:

    Finn
    Lando Calrissian
    Mace Windu

    And for some reason the grievance mongers seem to count Darth Vader as a >>> black guy for purposes of complaining that the only black character in
    the original film was a villain. Apparently these lackbrains think that
    wearing black clothing makes someone a black person.

    Well, that and the actor who voiced him.  Not much else to go on...

    (And it *is* arguably true that he's in black *because* he's a villain.)

    Bad guys wearing black goes back to long before Star Wars. In the old
    cowboy movies, the bad guys tended to wear black hats while the good
    guys wore white hats. This was partly done so the difference showed up
    better in the early black-and-white movies and TV shows.

    In STAR WARS, the good guys wear white yoga pants. Brown accessories if they're *really* good.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to anim8rfsk@cox.net on Wed Jul 17 16:28:04 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.starwars

    In article
    <183080876.742941823.393000.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    In article <1527427495.742924854.599885.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    In article <v78ait$1q6g8$10@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    In article <gsqlO.32899$oGQf.16383@fx10.iad>, gmsingh@email.com wrote: >>>>> On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That >>>>>>>> Promote Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although >>>>>>> they're ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi >>>>>>> are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious >>>>>>> order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism >>>>>>
    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human, and of >>>>>> the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one token >>>>> black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney and the DEI >>>>> version came along.

    Get back to us when you learn how to count past one.

    No shit. Hutt seems to rejoice in being publicly wrong about everything. >>>
    I can think of three major black characters in Lucas's universe just off >>> the top of my head without even needing to go back and look at the films: >>>
    Finn
    Lando Calrissian
    Mace Windu

    Ironically enough, Hutt's captive dancer (we saw her booby)

    Does she count as black if she's painted green?

    She’s an Agro American

    A person of chlorophyl.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Wed Jul 17 21:08:04 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.starwars

    atropos@mac.com wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <gsqlO.32899$oGQf.16383@fx10.iad>, gmsingh@email.com wrote:
    On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although
    they're ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi
    are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious
    order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism

    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human, and of
    the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one token
    black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney and the DEI
    version came along.

    Get back to us when you learn how to count past one.

    No shit. Hutt seems to rejoice in being publicly wrong about everything.

    I can think of three major black characters in Lucas's universe just off
    the top of my head without even needing to go back and look at the films:

    Finn
    Lando Calrissian
    Mace Windu

    I am sure somone with time to waste can Zabruder the crowd scenes and find
    some black people milling about. Wasn't one of the pilots attacking the Death Star black?

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Thu Jul 18 04:11:20 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.starwars

    On 7/17/24 10:38 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    atropos@mac.com wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <gsqlO.32899$oGQf.16383@fx10.iad>, gmsingh@email.com wrote:
    On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That
    Promote
    Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-term-jedi-is-
    problemat
    ic-for-describing-programs-that-promote-justice-equity-diversity-and-
    incl
    usion/

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although
    they're ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi
    are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious
    order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism

    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human, and of >>>>> the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one token
    black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney and the DEI >>>> version came along.

    Get back to us when you learn how to count past one.

    No shit. Hutt seems to rejoice in being publicly wrong about everything.

    I can think of three major black characters in Lucas's universe just off
    the top of my head without even needing to go back and look at the films:

    Finn
    Lando Calrissian
    Mace Windu

    And for some reason the grievance mongers seem to count Darth Vader as a
    black guy for purposes of complaining that the only black character in
    the original film was a villain. Apparently these lackbrains think that
    wearing black clothing makes someone a black person.

    James Earl Jones doesn't count; He's the world's best blackface performer. https://youtu.be/F-TkK0ZNunY


    No, he doesn't count because he was too fucking fat to be shown on
    camera by the horribly shallow George Lucas. The fantastic
    writer/director John Sayles had no problem with it in "Matewan," a
    terrific movie. I will say, though, a scene where Jones was running to
    catch a moving train was cringeworthy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 18 04:08:57 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.starwars

    On 7/17/24 9:43 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <v78ait$1q6g8$10@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    In article <gsqlO.32899$oGQf.16383@fx10.iad>, gmsingh@email.com wrote:
    On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That Promote >>>>>> Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-term-jedi-is-problemat
    ic-for-describing-programs-that-promote-justice-equity-diversity-and-incl
    usion/

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although
    they're ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi
    are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious
    order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism

    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human, and of >>>> the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one token
    black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney and the DEI
    version came along.

    Get back to us when you learn how to count past one.

    No shit. Hutt seems to rejoice in being publicly wrong about everything.


    I love it when you gays take turns sharing the brain cell like this.


    I can think of three major black characters in Lucas's universe just off
    the top of my head without even needing to go back and look at the films:

    Finn
    Lando Calrissian
    Mace Windu


    and of
    the humans, plenty of them are non-white?


    I'm not sure what you're trying to say, are you admitting you lied?
    Because you've had the brains or the spine to do this before, so I doubt
    you're turning over a new leaf now. I can't even imagine what's it's
    like to be too weak to turn over a new leaf, that's gotta suck!!!



    And for some reason the grievance mongers seem to count Darth Vader as a black guy for purposes of complaining that the only black character in
    the original film was a villain. Apparently these lackbrains think that wearing black clothing makes someone a black person.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 18 04:16:40 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.starwars

    On 7/17/24 11:23 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article
    <1527427495.742924854.599885.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    In article <v78ait$1q6g8$10@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    In article <gsqlO.32899$oGQf.16383@fx10.iad>, gmsingh@email.com wrote: >>>>> On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That >>>>>>>> Promote Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although >>>>>>> they're ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi >>>>>>> are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious >>>>>>> order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism

    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human, and of >>>>>> the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one token >>>>> black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney and the DEI >>>>> version came along.

    Get back to us when you learn how to count past one.

    No shit. Hutt seems to rejoice in being publicly wrong about everything. >>>
    I can think of three major black characters in Lucas's universe just off >>> the top of my head without even needing to go back and look at the films: >>>
    Finn
    Lando Calrissian
    Mace Windu

    Ironically enough, Hutt's captive dancer (we saw her booby)

    Does she count as black if she's painted green?


    Ah yes, the gay triumvirate is complete!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to moviePig on Thu Jul 18 04:17:57 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.starwars

    On 7/17/24 1:37 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 7/17/2024 10:43 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <v78ait$1q6g8$10@dont-email.me>,
      Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    In article <gsqlO.32899$oGQf.16383@fx10.iad>, gmsingh@email.com wrote:
    On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That
    Promote
    Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-term-jedi-is-problemat
    ic-for-describing-programs-that-promote-justice-equity-diversity-and-incl
    usion/

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although
    they're ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi
    are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious
    order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism

    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human, and of >>>>> the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one token
    black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney and the DEI >>>> version came along.

    Get back to us when you learn how to count past one.

    No shit. Hutt seems to rejoice in being publicly wrong about everything.

    I can think of three major black characters in Lucas's universe just off
    the top of my head without even needing to go back and look at the films:

    Finn
    Lando Calrissian
    Mace Windu

    And for some reason the grievance mongers seem to count Darth Vader as a
    black guy for purposes of complaining that the only black character in
    the original film was a villain. Apparently these lackbrains think that
    wearing black clothing makes someone a black person.

    Well, that and the actor who voiced him.  Not much else to go on...

    (And it *is* arguably true that he's in black *because* he's a villain.)


    I wouldn't go that far. JEJ has a unique voice and it's in demand as such.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 18 04:25:43 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.starwars

    On 7/17/24 6:28 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article
    <183080876.742941823.393000.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    In article
    <1527427495.742924854.599885.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    In article <v78ait$1q6g8$10@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    In article <gsqlO.32899$oGQf.16383@fx10.iad>, gmsingh@email.com wrote: >>>>>>> On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That >>>>>>>>>> Promote Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although >>>>>>>>> they're ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi >>>>>>>>> are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious >>>>>>>>> order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism >>>>>>>>
    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human, and of >>>>>>>> the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one token >>>>>>> black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney and the DEI >>>>>>> version came along.

    Get back to us when you learn how to count past one.

    No shit. Hutt seems to rejoice in being publicly wrong about everything. >>>>>
    I can think of three major black characters in Lucas's universe just off >>>>> the top of my head without even needing to go back and look at the films: >>>>>
    Finn
    Lando Calrissian
    Mace Windu

    Ironically enough, Hutt's captive dancer (we saw her booby)

    Does she count as black if she's painted green?

    She’s an Agro American

    A person of chlorophyl.


    Does this exchange count as witty to gay people?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 18 04:20:08 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.starwars

    On 7/17/24 1:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <v79329$1v64t$1@dont-email.me>,
    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 7/17/2024 10:43 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <v78ait$1q6g8$10@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    In article <gsqlO.32899$oGQf.16383@fx10.iad>, gmsingh@email.com wrote: >>>>> On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That >>>>>>>> Promote Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although >>>>>>> they're ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi >>>>>>> are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious >>>>>>> order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism

    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human, and of >>>>>> the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one token >>>>> black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney and the DEI >>>>> version came along.

    Get back to us when you learn how to count past one.

    No shit. Hutt seems to rejoice in being publicly wrong about everything. >>>
    I can think of three major black characters in Lucas's universe just off >>> the top of my head without even needing to go back and look at the films: >>>
    Finn
    Lando Calrissian
    Mace Windu

    And for some reason the grievance mongers seem to count Darth Vader as a >>> black guy for purposes of complaining that the only black character in
    the original film was a villain. Apparently these lackbrains think that
    wearing black clothing makes someone a black person.

    Well, that and the actor who voiced him. Not much else to go on...

    The actor who played him on screen was white and, most importantly,
    within the story, the character is a white guy. One's race isn't defined
    by the color of one's life support system.

    (And it *is* arguably true that he's in black *because* he's a villain.)

    There are a lot of STAR WARS villains-- Wilhuff Tarkin, for example, who murdered 5 billion people on Alderaan-- who didn't wear black.


    Will the real Slim Shady please stand up? You can't belong to the party
    that whines like bitches about DEI and then out of the other side of
    your mouth say "Oh yeah, fer sure, Lucas is totally a DEI guy." Please
    make a note of this Assholio.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to moviePig on Thu Jul 18 04:30:33 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.sf.tv

    On 7/17/24 6:09 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 7/17/2024 6:47 PM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2024-07-17 18:37:59 +0000, moviePig said:
    On 7/17/2024 10:43 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <v78ait$1q6g8$10@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    In article <gsqlO.32899$oGQf.16383@fx10.iad>, gmsingh@email.com wrote: >>>>>> On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That >>>>>>>>> Promote Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-term-jedi-is-problematic-for-describing-programs-that-promote-justice-equity-diversity-and-inclusion/

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although >>>>>>>> they're ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi >>>>>>>> are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious >>>>>>>> order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism >>>>>>>
    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human,
    and of
    the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one token >>>>>> black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney and
    the DEI
    version came along.

    Get back to us when you learn how to count past one.

    No shit. Hutt seems to rejoice in being publicly wrong about
    everything.

    I can think of three major black characters in Lucas's universe just
    off
    the top of my head without even needing to go back and look at the
    films:

    Finn
    Lando Calrissian
    Mace Windu

    And for some reason the grievance mongers seem to count Darth Vader
    as a
    black guy for purposes of complaining that the only black character in >>>> the original film was a villain. Apparently these lackbrains think that >>>> wearing black clothing makes someone a black person.

    Well, that and the actor who voiced him.  Not much else to go on...

    (And it *is* arguably true that he's in black *because* he's a villain.)

    Bad guys wearing black goes back to long before Star Wars. In the old
    cowboy movies, the bad guys tended to wear black hats while the good
    guys wore white hats. This was partly done so the difference showed up
    better in the early black-and-white movies and TV shows.

    In STAR WARS, the good guys wear white yoga pants.  Brown accessories if they're *really* good.


    What about the colors of their ultra phallic light sabers?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to trotsky on Thu Jul 18 12:12:27 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.starwars

    On 7/18/2024 5:17 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 7/17/24 1:37 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 7/17/2024 10:43 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <v78ait$1q6g8$10@dont-email.me>,
      Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    In article <gsqlO.32899$oGQf.16383@fx10.iad>, gmsingh@email.com wrote: >>>>> On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That >>>>>>>> Promote
    Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-term-jedi-is-problemat
    ic-for-describing-programs-that-promote-justice-equity-diversity-and-incl
    usion/

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although >>>>>>> they're ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi >>>>>>> are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious >>>>>>> order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism

    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human,
    and of
    the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one token >>>>> black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney and the
    DEI
    version came along.

    Get back to us when you learn how to count past one.

    No shit. Hutt seems to rejoice in being publicly wrong about everything. >>>
    I can think of three major black characters in Lucas's universe just off >>> the top of my head without even needing to go back and look at the
    films:

    Finn
    Lando Calrissian
    Mace Windu

    And for some reason the grievance mongers seem to count Darth Vader as a >>> black guy for purposes of complaining that the only black character in
    the original film was a villain. Apparently these lackbrains think that
    wearing black clothing makes someone a black person.

    Well, that and the actor who voiced him.  Not much else to go on...

    (And it *is* arguably true that he's in black *because* he's a villain.)

    I wouldn't go that far.  JEJ has a unique voice and it's in demand as such.

    I know. I was momentarily overcome by the urge to participate...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to trotsky on Thu Jul 18 10:06:41 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.starwars

    In article <17e34388cf415528$7593$1068333$4ed50460@news.newsdemon.com>,
    trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:

    On 7/17/24 9:43 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <v78ait$1q6g8$10@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    In article <gsqlO.32899$oGQf.16383@fx10.iad>, gmsingh@email.com wrote:
    On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That
    Promote
    Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although
    they're ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi
    are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious
    order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism

    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human, and of >>>> the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one token
    black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney and the DEI >>> version came along.

    Get back to us when you learn how to count past one.

    No shit. Hutt seems to rejoice in being publicly wrong about everything.

    I love it when you gays take turns sharing the brain cell like this.

    I can think of three major black characters in Lucas's universe just off the top of my head without even needing to go back and look at the films:

    Finn
    Lando Calrissian
    Mace Windu

    I'm not sure what you're trying to say, are you admitting you lied?

    No. You did:

    "There was exactly one token black dude in Lucas's universe"

    When you use the words "exactly one" it kinda limits your ability to
    wriggle out of it when three are presented to you in rebuttal, Hutt, you
    oozing lump.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to trotsky on Thu Jul 18 12:17:35 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.sf.tv

    On 7/18/2024 5:30 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 7/17/24 6:09 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 7/17/2024 6:47 PM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2024-07-17 18:37:59 +0000, moviePig said:
    On 7/17/2024 10:43 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <v78ait$1q6g8$10@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    In article <gsqlO.32899$oGQf.16383@fx10.iad>, gmsingh@email.com
    wrote:
    On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs >>>>>>>>>> That Promote Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-term-jedi-is-problematic-for-describing-programs-that-promote-justice-equity-diversity-and-inclusion/

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although >>>>>>>>> they're ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi >>>>>>>>> are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious >>>>>>>>> order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism >>>>>>>>
    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human, >>>>>>>> and of
    the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one
    token
    black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney and
    the DEI
    version came along.

    Get back to us when you learn how to count past one.

    No shit. Hutt seems to rejoice in being publicly wrong about
    everything.

    I can think of three major black characters in Lucas's universe
    just off
    the top of my head without even needing to go back and look at the
    films:

    Finn
    Lando Calrissian
    Mace Windu

    And for some reason the grievance mongers seem to count Darth Vader
    as a
    black guy for purposes of complaining that the only black character in >>>>> the original film was a villain. Apparently these lackbrains think
    that
    wearing black clothing makes someone a black person.

    Well, that and the actor who voiced him.  Not much else to go on...

    (And it *is* arguably true that he's in black *because* he's a
    villain.)

    Bad guys wearing black goes back to long before Star Wars. In the old
    cowboy movies, the bad guys tended to wear black hats while the good
    guys wore white hats. This was partly done so the difference showed
    up better in the early black-and-white movies and TV shows.

    In STAR WARS, the good guys wear white yoga pants.  Brown accessories
    if they're *really* good.

    What about the colors of their ultra phallic light sabers?

    I assumed those reflected temperament, like mood rings...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to moviePig on Fri Jul 19 08:53:00 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.sf.tv

    On 2024-07-18 16:17:35 +0000, moviePig said:
    On 7/18/2024 5:30 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 7/17/24 6:09 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 7/17/2024 6:47 PM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2024-07-17 18:37:59 +0000, moviePig said:
    On 7/17/2024 10:43 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <v78ait$1q6g8$10@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <gsqlO.32899$oGQf.16383@fx10.iad>, gmsingh@email.com wrote: >>>>>>>> On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That Promote
    Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-term-jedi-is-problematic-for-describing-programs-that-promote-justice-equity-diversity-and-inclusion/


    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although >>>>>>>>>> they're ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi are
    inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious order of
    intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism

    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human, and of
    the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one token >>>>>>>> black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney and the DEI
    version came along.

    Get back to us when you learn how to count past one.

    No shit. Hutt seems to rejoice in being publicly wrong about everything. >>>>>>
    I can think of three major black characters in Lucas's universe just >>>>>> off the top of my head without even needing to go back and look at the >>>>>> films:

    Finn
    Lando Calrissian
    Mace Windu

    And for some reason the grievance mongers seem to count Darth Vader as >>>>>> a black guy for purposes of complaining that the only black character >>>>>> in the original film was a villain. Apparently these lackbrains think >>>>>> that wearing black clothing makes someone a black person.

    Well, that and the actor who voiced him.  Not much else to go on...

    (And it *is* arguably true that he's in black *because* he's a villain.) >>>>
    Bad guys wearing black goes back to long before Star Wars. In the old
    cowboy movies, the bad guys tended to wear black hats while the good
    guys wore white hats. This was partly done so the difference showed up >>>> better in the early black-and-white movies and TV shows.

    In STAR WARS, the good guys wear white yoga pants.  Brown accessories
    if they're *really* good.

    What about the colors of their ultra phallic light sabers?

    I assumed those reflected temperament, like mood rings...

    The baddies usually use red blades. The goodies use a variety of
    colours - Samuel L. Jackson asked for his character to have a purple
    blade.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 19 03:55:12 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.starwars

    On 7/18/24 12:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <17e34388cf415528$7593$1068333$4ed50460@news.newsdemon.com>,
    trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:

    On 7/17/24 9:43 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <v78ait$1q6g8$10@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    In article <gsqlO.32899$oGQf.16383@fx10.iad>, gmsingh@email.com wrote: >>>>> On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That >>>>>>>> Promote
    Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although >>>>>>> they're ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi >>>>>>> are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious >>>>>>> order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism

    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human, and of >>>>>> the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one token >>>>> black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney and the DEI >>>>> version came along.

    Get back to us when you learn how to count past one.

    No shit. Hutt seems to rejoice in being publicly wrong about everything.

    I love it when you gays take turns sharing the brain cell like this.

    I can think of three major black characters in Lucas's universe just off >>> the top of my head without even needing to go back and look at the films: >>>
    Finn
    Lando Calrissian
    Mace Windu

    I'm not sure what you're trying to say, are you admitting you lied?

    No. You did:

    "There was exactly one token black dude in Lucas's universe"


    You are REALLY bad with this wordplay thing. If you were actually a
    Lucas fan, you would say there are no token blacks. But you've tacitly admitted that there are, and now we just need to agree on the number.

    I played you like the MAGA asshole you are. Sorry, not sorry.


    When you use the words "exactly one" it kinda limits your ability to
    wriggle out of it when three are presented to you in rebuttal, Hutt, you oozing lump.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to moviePig on Fri Jul 19 04:13:37 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.starwars

    On 7/18/24 11:12 AM, moviePig wrote:
    On 7/18/2024 5:17 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 7/17/24 1:37 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 7/17/2024 10:43 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <v78ait$1q6g8$10@dont-email.me>,
      Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    In article <gsqlO.32899$oGQf.16383@fx10.iad>, gmsingh@email.com wrote: >>>>>> On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That >>>>>>>>> Promote
    Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-term-jedi-is-problemat
    ic-for-describing-programs-that-promote-justice-equity-diversity-and-incl
    usion/

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although >>>>>>>> they're ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi >>>>>>>> are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious >>>>>>>> order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism >>>>>>>
    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human,
    and of
    the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one token >>>>>> black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney and
    the DEI
    version came along.

    Get back to us when you learn how to count past one.

    No shit. Hutt seems to rejoice in being publicly wrong about
    everything.

    I can think of three major black characters in Lucas's universe just
    off
    the top of my head without even needing to go back and look at the
    films:

    Finn
    Lando Calrissian
    Mace Windu

    And for some reason the grievance mongers seem to count Darth Vader
    as a
    black guy for purposes of complaining that the only black character in >>>> the original film was a villain. Apparently these lackbrains think that >>>> wearing black clothing makes someone a black person.

    Well, that and the actor who voiced him.  Not much else to go on...

    (And it *is* arguably true that he's in black *because* he's a villain.)

    I wouldn't go that far.  JEJ has a unique voice and it's in demand as
    such.

    I know.  I was momentarily overcome by the urge to participate...


    And yet, being a movie pig you didn't even comment on my mention of John
    Sayles and the superb Matewan?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to trotsky on Fri Jul 19 12:32:37 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.starwars

    On 7/19/2024 5:13 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 7/18/24 11:12 AM, moviePig wrote:
    On 7/18/2024 5:17 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 7/17/24 1:37 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 7/17/2024 10:43 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <v78ait$1q6g8$10@dont-email.me>,
      Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    In article <gsqlO.32899$oGQf.16383@fx10.iad>, gmsingh@email.com
    wrote:
    On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:32:03 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs >>>>>>>>>> That Promote
    Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-term-jedi-is-problemat
    ic-for-describing-programs-that-promote-justice-equity-diversity-and-incl
    usion/

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although >>>>>>>>> they're ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi >>>>>>>>> are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious >>>>>>>>> order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism >>>>>>>>
    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human, >>>>>>>> and of
    the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one
    token
    black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney and
    the DEI
    version came along.

    Get back to us when you learn how to count past one.

    No shit. Hutt seems to rejoice in being publicly wrong about
    everything.

    I can think of three major black characters in Lucas's universe
    just off
    the top of my head without even needing to go back and look at the
    films:

    Finn
    Lando Calrissian
    Mace Windu

    And for some reason the grievance mongers seem to count Darth Vader
    as a
    black guy for purposes of complaining that the only black character in >>>>> the original film was a villain. Apparently these lackbrains think
    that
    wearing black clothing makes someone a black person.

    Well, that and the actor who voiced him.  Not much else to go on...

    (And it *is* arguably true that he's in black *because* he's a
    villain.)

    I wouldn't go that far.  JEJ has a unique voice and it's in demand as
    such.

    I know.  I was momentarily overcome by the urge to participate...


    And yet, being a movie pig you didn't even comment on my mention of John Sayles and the superb Matewan?

    My urge to participate must've placed me in too great a hurry...

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to nobody@nowhere.com on Fri Jul 19 20:12:03 2024
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    In article <v7bf6v$2g4se$2@dont-email.me>, nobody@nowhere.com wrote:
    On 7/18/2024 5:30 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 7/17/24 6:09 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 7/17/2024 6:47 PM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2024-07-17 18:37:59 +0000, moviePig said:
    On 7/17/2024 10:43 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    gmsingh@email.com wrote:
    On 7/15/24 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:

    "The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although >>>>>>>>>> they're ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi >>>>>>>>>> are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious >>>>>>>>>> order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism >>>>>>>>>
    How are they white saviors when most of them aren't even human, >>>>>>>>> and of the humans, plenty of them are non-white?

    More lies from the resident sack of shit. There was exactly one >>>>>>>> token black dude in Lucas's universe until you sold out to Disney >>>>>>>> and the DEI version came along.

    Get back to us when you learn how to count past one.

    No shit. Hutt seems to rejoice in being publicly wrong about
    everything.

    I can think of three major black characters in Lucas's universe
    just off
    the top of my head without even needing to go back and look at the >>>>>> films:

    Finn
    Lando Calrissian
    Mace Windu

    And for some reason the grievance mongers seem to count Darth Vader >>>>>> as a
    black guy for purposes of complaining that the only black character in >>>>>> the original film was a villain. Apparently these lackbrains think >>>>>> that
    wearing black clothing makes someone a black person.

    Well, that and the actor who voiced him.  Not much else to go on... >>>>>
    (And it *is* arguably true that he's in black *because* he's a
    villain.)

    Bad guys wearing black goes back to long before Star Wars. In the old
    cowboy movies, the bad guys tended to wear black hats while the good
    guys wore white hats. This was partly done so the difference showed
    up better in the early black-and-white movies and TV shows.

    In STAR WARS, the good guys wear white yoga pants.  Brown accessories
    if they're *really* good.

    What about the colors of their ultra phallic light sabers?

    I assumed those reflected temperament, like mood rings...

    You'd be wrong about that assumption. Lesbian Headlight herself said
    she chose light saber colors based on what looked coolest.

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    Let's go Brandon!

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to YourName@YourISP.com on Sat Jul 20 17:50:22 2024
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    In article <v7bvbc$2j8ce$1@dont-email.me>, YourName@YourISP.com wrote:
    On 2024-07-18 16:17:35 +0000, moviePig said:
    On 7/18/2024 5:30 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 7/17/24 6:09 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 7/17/2024 6:47 PM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2024-07-17 18:37:59 +0000, moviePig said:

    Bad guys wearing black goes back to long before Star Wars. In the old >>>>> cowboy movies, the bad guys tended to wear black hats while the good >>>>> guys wore white hats. This was partly done so the difference showed up >>>>> better in the early black-and-white movies and TV shows.

    In STAR WARS, the good guys wear white yoga pants.  Brown accessories
    if they're *really* good.

    What about the colors of their ultra phallic light sabers?

    I assumed those reflected temperament, like mood rings...

    The baddies usually use red blades. The goodies use a variety of
    colours - Samuel L. Jackson asked for his character to have a purple
    blade.

    No, Lesbian Headlight said in a post-show that the colors are arbitrary.

    In fact, she shrugs at every fan theory told to her and says there was no reason for what happened.

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