• We either sacrifice Ukraine

    From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 21 16:34:18 2022
    or extend the war far beyond Ukraine borders.

    https://foreigndesknews.com/top-story/u-s-officials-iran-and-russia-to-produce-attack-drones-for-ukraine-war/

    I say we lend lease Ukraine one guided missile frigate fully armed and loaded.

    ScottW

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to ScottW on Mon Nov 21 22:05:03 2022
    On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 7:34:20 PM UTC-5, ScottW wrote:
    or extend the war far beyond Ukraine borders.

    https://foreigndesknews.com/top-story/u-s-officials-iran-and-russia-to-produce-attack-drones-for-ukraine-war/

    I say we lend lease Ukraine one guided missile frigate fully armed and loaded.

    ScottW

    Ind the end, it will be a lot more than Ukraine being sacrificed.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Tue Nov 22 10:13:41 2022
    On 11/21/22 6:34 PM, ScottW wrote:
    or extend the war far beyond Ukraine borders.

    Nope.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 22 15:09:00 2022
    On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 8:13:43 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 11/21/22 6:34 PM, ScottW wrote:
    or extend the war far beyond Ukraine borders.
    Nope.

    Let's say Russia does get forced to retreat on the ground from all of Ukraine's territory.
    But continues to pound Ukraine civilian infrastructure from afar.
    Then what?

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Wed Nov 23 10:06:22 2022
    On 11/22/22 5:09 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 8:13:43 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 11/21/22 6:34 PM, ScottW wrote:
    or extend the war far beyond Ukraine borders.
    Nope.

    Let's say Russia does get forced to retreat on the ground from all of Ukraine's territory.
    But continues to pound Ukraine civilian infrastructure from afar.
    Then what?

    More missile defense.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 23 10:17:15 2022
    On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 8:06:24 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 11/22/22 5:09 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 8:13:43 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 11/21/22 6:34 PM, ScottW wrote:
    or extend the war far beyond Ukraine borders.
    Nope.

    Let's say Russia does get forced to retreat on the ground from all of Ukraine's territory.
    But continues to pound Ukraine civilian infrastructure from afar.
    Then what?
    More missile defense.

    You do realize that air defense missiles cost more than the missiles and drones they're shooting down
    and will never be 100% effective.
    I never expected dems to become the forever war party....but times have clearly changed.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Wed Nov 23 16:07:14 2022
    On 11/23/22 12:17 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 8:06:24 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 11/22/22 5:09 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 8:13:43 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 11/21/22 6:34 PM, ScottW wrote:
    or extend the war far beyond Ukraine borders.
    Nope.

    Let's say Russia does get forced to retreat on the ground from all of Ukraine's territory.
    But continues to pound Ukraine civilian infrastructure from afar.
    Then what?
    More missile defense.

    You do realize that air defense missiles cost more than the missiles and drones they're shooting down
    and will never be 100% effective.

    And?

    I never expected dems to become the forever war party....but times have clearly changed.

    Democrats were all in for Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, so I don't know
    why you'd be surprised.

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 23 15:30:55 2022
    MINe109 wrote:
    I never expected dems to become the forever war party....but times have clearly changed.
    Democrats were all in for Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, so I don't know
    why you'd be surprised.

    Can we pretend you would have put a smirky-smiley thingie there if Usenet weren't text-only?

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to Fascist Flea on Wed Nov 23 23:17:44 2022
    On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 6:30:56 PM UTC-5, Fascist Flea wrote:
    MINe109 wrote:
    I never expected dems to become the forever war party....but times have clearly changed.
    Democrats were all in for Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, so I don't know why you'd be surprised.
    Can we pretend you would have put a smirky-smiley thingie there if Usenet weren't text-only?


    https://www.kindpng.com/picc/m/735-7354477_gasp-hand-emoji-boring-bored-boredemoji-eyesclosed-apple.png

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Fascist Flea on Thu Nov 24 10:17:00 2022
    On 11/23/22 5:30 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
    MINe109 wrote:
    I never expected dems to become the forever war party....but times have clearly changed.
    Democrats were all in for Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, so I don't know
    why you'd be surprised.

    Can we pretend you would have put a smirky-smiley thingie there if Usenet weren't text-only?

    We call that the "Arnie": ;-)

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 24 08:43:14 2022
    On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 2:07:16 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 11/23/22 12:17 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 8:06:24 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 11/22/22 5:09 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 8:13:43 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 11/21/22 6:34 PM, ScottW wrote:
    or extend the war far beyond Ukraine borders.
    Nope.

    Let's say Russia does get forced to retreat on the ground from all of Ukraine's territory.
    But continues to pound Ukraine civilian infrastructure from afar.
    Then what?
    More missile defense.

    You do realize that air defense missiles cost more than the missiles and drones they're shooting down
    and will never be 100% effective.
    And?
    I never expected dems to become the forever war party....but times have clearly changed.
    Democrats were all in for Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, so I don't know
    why you'd be surprised.

    Oh goodie....we can pin all those defeats on you. With that track record Ukraine should be afraid....very afraid.

    ScottW

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 24 13:06:28 2022
    Weirder and ever weirder...
    Democrats were all in for Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, so I don't know why you'd be surprised.
    Oh goodie....we can pin all those defeats on you. With that track record Ukraine should be afraid....very afraid.

    President MINE? When was this?

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 24 13:09:45 2022
    MINe109 wrote:
    I never expected dems to become the forever war party....but times have clearly changed.
    Democrats were all in for Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, so I don't know >> why you'd be surprised.

    Can we pretend you would have put a smirky-smiley thingie there if Usenet weren't text-only?
    We call that the "Arnie": ;-)

    Does scottw embrace that - what, person? bot? - whatever?

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Nov 25 09:49:25 2022
    On 11/24/22 10:43 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 2:07:16 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 11/23/22 12:17 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 8:06:24 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 11/22/22 5:09 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 8:13:43 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 11/21/22 6:34 PM, ScottW wrote:
    or extend the war far beyond Ukraine borders.
    Nope.

    Let's say Russia does get forced to retreat on the ground from all of Ukraine's territory.
    But continues to pound Ukraine civilian infrastructure from afar.
    Then what?
    More missile defense.

    You do realize that air defense missiles cost more than the missiles and drones they're shooting down
    and will never be 100% effective.
    And?
    I never expected dems to become the forever war party....but times have clearly changed.
    Democrats were all in for Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, so I don't know
    why you'd be surprised.

    Oh goodie....we can pin all those defeats on you.

    As you've been trying to do forever already.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Fascist Flea on Fri Nov 25 09:51:44 2022
    On 11/24/22 3:09 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
    MINe109 wrote:
    I never expected dems to become the forever war party....but times have clearly changed.
    Democrats were all in for Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, so I don't know >>>> why you'd be surprised.

    Can we pretend you would have put a smirky-smiley thingie there if Usenet weren't text-only?
    We call that the "Arnie": ;-)

    Does scottw embrace that - what, person? bot? - whatever?

    A former poster, RIP. Yes, Scott admired his prowess in the "debating
    trade."

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