• The Speech wars rage on

    From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 8 10:08:26 2022
    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/maricopa-county-recorder-briefed-dhs-agency-march-combating-election

    The more gov't officials overreact to free speech....as misinformed as it may be, the more hot water they get themselves in.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Thu Dec 8 15:26:20 2022
    On 12/8/22 12:08 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/maricopa-county-recorder-briefed-dhs-agency-march-combating-election

    The more gov't officials overreact to free speech....as misinformed as it may be, the more hot water they get themselves in.

    That's quite the self-own there.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 8 16:52:12 2022
    On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 1:26:23 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/8/22 12:08 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/maricopa-county-recorder-briefed-dhs-agency-march-combating-election

    The more gov't officials overreact to free speech....as misinformed as it may be, the more hot water they get themselves in.
    That's quite the self-own there.

    There's a grand canyon between countering misinformation with the facts and asking that misinformation be silenced.
    As I see it....on this you are misinformed but still have a right to your speech.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Dec 9 09:32:41 2022
    On 12/8/22 6:52 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 1:26:23 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/8/22 12:08 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/maricopa-county-recorder-briefed-dhs-agency-march-combating-election

    The more gov't officials overreact to free speech....as misinformed as it may be, the more hot water they get themselves in.
    That's quite the self-own there.

    There's a grand canyon between countering misinformation with the facts and asking that misinformation be silenced.

    There's also a distinction between 'silenced' and 'not amplified.' Your
    frame also implies an equality between unequal things.

    As I see it....on this you are misinformed but still have a right to your speech.

    Except there's no misinformation involved, just your twisted opinions.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 9 15:07:41 2022
    On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 7:32:44 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/8/22 6:52 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 1:26:23 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/8/22 12:08 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/maricopa-county-recorder-briefed-dhs-agency-march-combating-election

    The more gov't officials overreact to free speech....as misinformed as it may be, the more hot water they get themselves in.
    That's quite the self-own there.

    There's a grand canyon between countering misinformation with the facts and asking that misinformation be silenced.
    There's also a distinction between 'silenced' and 'not amplified.'

    Yes but not a great one. They either abide by their claim not to restrict based upon politics or ideology or they don't.

    Twitter execs obviously lied to congress about what they were doing.

    Overall, one of the great faults of social media. Too much power over what you see.
    Even accepting your "newsfeeds" as a primary source is perilous in limiting your view.
    However this has always been the case from your paper to your evening news. Now we
    have options. We need to keep them available to not allow social media to block them from us.

    Your
    frame also implies an equality between unequal things.
    As I see it....on this you are misinformed but still have a right to your speech.
    Except there's no misinformation involved, just your twisted opinions.

    LoL....and that is YOUR twisted opinion.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Dec 10 10:08:17 2022
    On 12/9/22 5:07 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 7:32:44 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/8/22 6:52 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 1:26:23 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/8/22 12:08 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/maricopa-county-recorder-briefed-dhs-agency-march-combating-election

    The more gov't officials overreact to free speech....as misinformed as it may be, the more hot water they get themselves in.
    That's quite the self-own there.

    There's a grand canyon between countering misinformation with the facts and asking that misinformation be silenced.
    There's also a distinction between 'silenced' and 'not amplified.'

    Yes but not a great one. They either abide by their claim not to restrict based upon politics or ideology or they don't.

    They have terms of service to cover this.

    Twitter execs obviously lied to congress about what they were doing.

    Not so obvious, especially with the special treatment offered Trump, Hutchinson, LoTT, etc.

    Overall, one of the great faults of social media. Too much power over what you see.
    Even accepting your "newsfeeds" as a primary source is perilous in limiting your view.
    However this has always been the case from your paper to your evening news. Now we
    have options. We need to keep them available to not allow social media to block them from us.
    As determined by algorithm whose priority is 'engagement.'

    Your frame also implies an equality between unequal things.
    As I see it....on this you are misinformed but still have a right to your speech.
    Except there's no misinformation involved, just your twisted opinions.

    LoL....and that is YOUR twisted opinion.

    See: "flooding the zone"

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 10 16:37:53 2022
    On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 8:08:21 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/9/22 5:07 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 7:32:44 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/8/22 6:52 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 1:26:23 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/8/22 12:08 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/maricopa-county-recorder-briefed-dhs-agency-march-combating-election

    The more gov't officials overreact to free speech....as misinformed as it may be, the more hot water they get themselves in.
    That's quite the self-own there.

    There's a grand canyon between countering misinformation with the facts and asking that misinformation be silenced.
    There's also a distinction between 'silenced' and 'not amplified.'

    Yes but not a great one. They either abide by their claim not to restrict based upon politics or ideology or they don't.
    They have terms of service to cover this.

    Which their own internal communications show they knew they weren't adhering to.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Dec 10 21:06:11 2022
    On 12/10/22 6:37 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 8:08:21 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/9/22 5:07 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 7:32:44 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/8/22 6:52 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 1:26:23 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/8/22 12:08 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/maricopa-county-recorder-briefed-dhs-agency-march-combating-election

    The more gov't officials overreact to free speech....as misinformed as it may be, the more hot water they get themselves in.
    That's quite the self-own there.

    There's a grand canyon between countering misinformation with the facts and asking that misinformation be silenced.
    There's also a distinction between 'silenced' and 'not amplified.'

    Yes but not a great one. They either abide by their claim not to restrict based upon politics or ideology or they don't.
    They have terms of service to cover this.

    Which their own internal communications show they knew they weren't adhering to.

    Asking for a training session to explain election procedures doesn't
    seem like a problem.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 10 22:30:25 2022
    On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 7:06:13 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/10/22 6:37 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 8:08:21 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/9/22 5:07 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 7:32:44 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/8/22 6:52 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 1:26:23 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote: >>>>>> On 12/8/22 12:08 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/maricopa-county-recorder-briefed-dhs-agency-march-combating-election

    The more gov't officials overreact to free speech....as misinformed as it may be, the more hot water they get themselves in.
    That's quite the self-own there.

    There's a grand canyon between countering misinformation with the facts and asking that misinformation be silenced.
    There's also a distinction between 'silenced' and 'not amplified.'

    Yes but not a great one. They either abide by their claim not to restrict based upon politics or ideology or they don't.
    They have terms of service to cover this.

    Which their own internal communications show they knew they weren't adhering to.
    Asking for a training session to explain election procedures doesn't
    seem like a problem.

    Thanks for proving you're once again keeping your head in a deep dark hole when it comes to the twitter files.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sun Dec 11 20:04:36 2022
    On 12/11/22 12:30 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 7:06:13 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/10/22 6:37 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 8:08:21 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/9/22 5:07 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 7:32:44 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/8/22 6:52 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 1:26:23 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 12/8/22 12:08 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/maricopa-county-recorder-briefed-dhs-agency-march-combating-election

    The more gov't officials overreact to free speech....as misinformed as it may be, the more hot water they get themselves in.
    That's quite the self-own there.

    There's a grand canyon between countering misinformation with the facts and asking that misinformation be silenced.
    There's also a distinction between 'silenced' and 'not amplified.'

    Yes but not a great one. They either abide by their claim not to restrict based upon politics or ideology or they don't.
    They have terms of service to cover this.

    Which their own internal communications show they knew they weren't adhering to.
    Asking for a training session to explain election procedures doesn't
    seem like a problem.

    Thanks for proving you're once again keeping your head in a deep dark hole when it comes to the twitter files.

    No, I'm well aware of it:

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/12/twitter-files-explained-elon-musk-taibbi-weiss-hunter-biden-laptop.html

    No paywall:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/the-twitter-files-is-what-it-claims-to-expose/ar-AA157GyC

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