https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531789/Condo-prices-downtown-San-Francisco-slump-thanks-soaring-drugs-crime.htmlfront of a bunch of fast food joints. I'm sure that's not good for their business.
It's becoming an empty city...a shell with no inhabitants.
And the first order of business for the new LA Mayor is issue an emergency decree on homelessness.
This past week the weather has been cold and wet so I'm sure their life is even more horrible than usual...yet I still see tents popping up on sidewalks near a local strip mall. A few weeks ago it was by a freeway off ramp now it's down the block in
Joe's plan is to leave them to their decadent decay and replace 'em with migrants.
ScottW
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531789/Condo-prices-downtown-San-Francisco-slump-thanks-soaring-drugs-crime.html“No one goes there, it’s too crowded”- Yogi Berra
It's becoming an empty city...a shell with no inhabitants.
And the first order of business for the new LA Mayor is issue an
emergency decree on homelessness. This past week the weather has
been cold and wet so I'm sure their life is even more horrible than usual...yet I still see tents popping up on sidewalks near a local
strip mall. A few weeks ago it was by a freeway off ramp now it's
down the block in front of a bunch of fast food joints. I'm sure
that's not good for their business.
Joe's plan is to leave them to their decadent decay and replace 'em
with migrants.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531789/Condo-prices-downtown-San-Francisco-slump-thanks-soaring-drugs-crime.htmlfront of a bunch of fast food joints. I'm sure that's not good for their business.
It's becoming an empty city...a shell with no inhabitants.
And the first order of business for the new LA Mayor is issue an emergency decree on homelessness.
This past week the weather has been cold and wet so I'm sure their life is even more horrible than usual...yet I still see tents popping up on sidewalks near a local strip mall. A few weeks ago it was by a freeway off ramp now it's down the block in
Joe's plan is to leave them to their decadent decay and replace 'em with migrants.
ScottW
On 12/13/22 6:08 PM, ScottW wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531789/Condo-prices-downtown-San-Francisco-slump-thanks-soaring-drugs-crime.html
It's becoming an empty city...a shell with no inhabitants.“No one goes there, it’s too crowded”- Yogi Berra
https://thefrontsteps.com/2022/12/01/do-san-francisco-housing-prices-ever-drop/
And the first order of business for the new LA Mayor is issue anThis just in: mayor sworn in three days ago fails to instantly solve homelessness.
emergency decree on homelessness. This past week the weather has
been cold and wet so I'm sure their life is even more horrible than usual...yet I still see tents popping up on sidewalks near a local
strip mall. A few weeks ago it was by a freeway off ramp now it's
down the block in front of a bunch of fast food joints. I'm sure
that's not good for their business.
Joe's plan is to leave them to their decadent decay and replace 'emAh-oogah! Ah-oogah! Replacement theory!
with migrants.
On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 7:32:08 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
On 12/13/22 6:08 PM, ScottW wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531789/Condo-prices-downtown-San-Francisco-slump-thanks-soaring-drugs-crime.html
It's becoming an empty city...a shell with no inhabitants.
“No one goes there, it’s too crowded”- Yogi Berra
and when exactly did he say that?
You sputter some stupid lame retorts at times but this one is even
beneath you.
https://thefrontsteps.com/2022/12/01/do-san-francisco-housing-prices-ever-drop/
And the first order of business for the new LA Mayor is issue anThis just in: mayor sworn in three days ago fails to instantly
emergency decree on homelessness. This past week the weather has
been cold and wet so I'm sure their life is even more horrible
than usual...yet I still see tents popping up on sidewalks near a
local strip mall. A few weeks ago it was by a freeway off ramp
now it's down the block in front of a bunch of fast food joints.
I'm sure that's not good for their business.
solve homelessness.
This just in..... new dem mayor finds homelessness a crisis of
emergency proportion.
On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 7:32:08 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
On 12/13/22 6:08 PM, ScottW wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531789/Condo-prices-downtown-San-Francisco-slump-thanks-soaring-drugs-crime.html
and when exactly did he say that? You sputter some stupid lame retortsIt's becoming an empty city...a shell with no inhabitants.“No one goes there, it’s too crowded”- Yogi Berra
at times but this one is even beneath you.
https://thefrontsteps.com/2022/12/01/do-san-francisco-housing-prices-ever-drop/This just in..... new dem mayor finds homelessness a crisis of emergency proportion.
And the first order of business for the new LA Mayor is issue an emergency decree on homelessness. This past week the weather hasThis just in: mayor sworn in three days ago fails to instantly solve homelessness.
been cold and wet so I'm sure their life is even more horrible than usual...yet I still see tents popping up on sidewalks near a local
strip mall. A few weeks ago it was by a freeway off ramp now it's
down the block in front of a bunch of fast food joints. I'm sure
that's not good for their business.
Joe's plan is to leave them to their decadent decay and replace 'emAh-oogah! Ah-oogah! Replacement theory!
with migrants.
ScottW
On 12/14/22 12:16 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 7:32:08 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
On 12/13/22 6:08 PM, ScottW wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531789/Condo-prices-downtown-San-Francisco-slump-thanks-soaring-drugs-crime.html
It's becoming an empty city...a shell with no inhabitants.
“No one goes there, it’s too crowded”- Yogi Berra
and when exactly did he say that?A number of times.
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/08/29/too-crowded/
"I was talking to Stan Musial and Joe Garagiola in 1959 about Ruggeri’s restaurant in my old neighborhood in St. Louis. It was true!"
You sputter some stupid lame retorts at times but this one is evenIt's at a level appropriate to your claim SF will be "an empty city...
beneath you.
with no inhabitants."
It's also a joke, which actual humans would take as a way of lightening
the mood.
https://thefrontsteps.com/2022/12/01/do-san-francisco-housing-prices-ever-drop/
So your complaint is what? That the mayor takes it seriously but wasn'tThis just in..... new dem mayor finds homelessness a crisis ofAnd the first order of business for the new LA Mayor is issue anThis just in: mayor sworn in three days ago fails to instantly
emergency decree on homelessness. This past week the weather has
been cold and wet so I'm sure their life is even more horrible
than usual...yet I still see tents popping up on sidewalks near a
local strip mall. A few weeks ago it was by a freeway off ramp
now it's down the block in front of a bunch of fast food joints.
I'm sure that's not good for their business.
solve homelessness.
emergency proportion.
able to clear the sidewalks sometime last week before she was in power?
What does that have to do with the SF collapse? The purported SF crime
rate is a political ploy
On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 10:49:13 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
On 12/14/22 12:16 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 7:32:08 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:A number of times.
On 12/13/22 6:08 PM, ScottW wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531789/Condo-prices-downtown-San-Francisco-slump-thanks-soaring-drugs-crime.html
It's becoming an empty city...a shell with no inhabitants.
“No one goes there, it’s too crowded”- Yogi Berra
and when exactly did he say that?
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/08/29/too-crowded/
"I was talking to Stan Musial and Joe Garagiola in 1959 about Ruggeri’s
restaurant in my old neighborhood in St. Louis. It was true!"
You sputter some stupid lame retorts at times but this one is evenIt's at a level appropriate to your claim SF will be "an empty city...
beneath you.
with no inhabitants."
Do you not see the vacancy rates?
The images of once packed streets empty in mid-day?
It's also a joke, which actual humans would take as a way of lightening
the mood.
Well at least the gravity of the situation has an impact on your mood.
My complaint is that decades of dem control of LA and the state as a whole has created a crisis of homelessness.
Something dems have long demonstrated they don't have the guts or the willpower
and frankly a questionable desire to get control of.
All they do is create an ever growing industry and lobbying consortium around their
social programs for the homeless and addicted.
The politicians become as dependent on their campaign donations as the addicts in the streets
to meth.
What does that have to do with the SF collapse? The purported SF crime
rate is a political ploy
Tell it to the people who have uprooted their entire lives to escape
that decaying shit-hole.
How many local newspapers go to the level of effort required for this?
https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/sf-car-breakins/
or how about this?
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/breaking-point-sf-suffers-highest-rate-of-car-break-ins-compared-to-atlanta-dc-dallas-la/2731757/
On 12/15/22 10:27 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 10:49:13 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
On 12/14/22 12:16 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 7:32:08 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:A number of times.
On 12/13/22 6:08 PM, ScottW wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531789/Condo-prices-downtown-San-Francisco-slump-thanks-soaring-drugs-crime.html
It's becoming an empty city...a shell with no inhabitants.
“No one goes there, it’s too crowded”- Yogi Berra
and when exactly did he say that?
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/08/29/too-crowded/
"I was talking to Stan Musial and Joe Garagiola in 1959 about Ruggeri’s >> restaurant in my old neighborhood in St. Louis. It was true!"
You sputter some stupid lame retorts at times but this one is evenIt's at a level appropriate to your claim SF will be "an empty city...
beneath you.
with no inhabitants."
Do you not see the vacancy rates?In the buildings "found to have structural issues"? Or in the area
overall? Look here for the many ways a home can be vacant:
https://sf.curbed.com/2020/2/24/21149381/san-francisco-vacant-homes-census-five-year-2020
Here's a more recent perspective:
https://thefrontsteps.com/2022/06/07/sf-vacancy-rate/
On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 9:21:33 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
On 12/15/22 10:27 AM, ScottW wrote:
Do you not see the vacancy rates?In the buildings "found to have structural issues"? Or in the area
overall? Look here for the many ways a home can be vacant:
https://sf.curbed.com/2020/2/24/21149381/san-francisco-vacant-homes-census-five-year-2020
Here's a more recent perspective:
https://thefrontsteps.com/2022/06/07/sf-vacancy-rate/
You're talking housing and I'm pointing to office space and
some high end condos for sale....not rent.
And while the office space is actually leased...that won't last if it remains unoccupied.
You can ignore all these warnings, but the future for the city is in peril. San Fran...the new Detroit.
Stephen thinks that's no big deal.
On 12/15/22 1:04 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 9:21:33 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
On 12/15/22 10:27 AM, ScottW wrote:
Do you not see the vacancy rates?In the buildings "found to have structural issues"? Or in the area
overall? Look here for the many ways a home can be vacant:
https://sf.curbed.com/2020/2/24/21149381/san-francisco-vacant-homes-census-five-year-2020
Here's a more recent perspective:
https://thefrontsteps.com/2022/06/07/sf-vacancy-rate/
You're talking housing and I'm pointing to office space andMaybe if you said what you meant... Aren't high end condos housing?
some high end condos for sale....not rent.
And while the office space is actually leased...that won't last if it remains unoccupied.You could also cite credible sources without histories of San Francisco bashing.
You can ignore all these warnings, but the future for the city is in peril.That's just wishful thinking on your part.
San Fran...the new Detroit.
Stephen thinks that's no big deal.This seems bad enough and it doesn't have the alarming pictures of the homeless that scare you:
https://sfstandard.com/business/san-francisco-braces-for-epic-commercial-real-estate-crash/
Although the "slow moving train" in the opening is alarmist. Speaking of "slow":
https://www.sfexaminer.com/archives/san-francisco-office-occupancy-rises-but-trails-national-trend/article_e8cbf142-0767-5ac1-9630-28cd15d6ebad.html
(Updated Jun 16, 2022)
Slow and steady wins the race — at least, according to people in the business of urging employees to return to the financial district...
San Francisco occupancy rates are still behind most other major
metropolitan areas in the country. Nationwide, Kastle estimates offices
are 39% occupied.
Despite the lag, San Francisco also shows some of the most consistent, dependable occupancy growth amongst cities Kastle Systems tracks.
Whereas top-ranking cities like Austin and Houston currently have the highest number of workers in the office — at 55.3% and 52.3% occupancy, respectively — each saw sudden dips of approximately 5, 10, and 20% between November 2020 and early March. San Francisco office occupancy,
on the other hand, has increased at a near constant rate since falling
in March 2020, with only small 1-3% fluctuations.
End quote.
https://californiaglobe.com/articles/san-francisco-office-occupancy-still-under-40-despite-ending-mask-mandate/
"Occupancy is expected to reach above 40% in San Francisco by the end of
the year."
On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 11:33:49 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
This seems bad enough and it doesn't have the alarming pictures of the
homeless that scare you:
https://sfstandard.com/business/san-francisco-braces-for-epic-commercial-real-estate-crash/
Although the "slow moving train" in the opening is alarmist. Speaking of
"slow":
https://www.sfexaminer.com/archives/san-francisco-office-occupancy-rises-but-trails-national-trend/article_e8cbf142-0767-5ac1-9630-28cd15d6ebad.html
(Updated Jun 16, 2022)
Slow and steady wins the race — at least, according to people in the
business of urging employees to return to the financial district...
https://californiaglobe.com/articles/san-francisco-office-occupancy-still-under-40-despite-ending-mask-mandate/
"Occupancy is expected to reach above 40% in San Francisco by the end of
the year."
1 pt projected up from unsustainable bad levels and you're claiming the future is bright?
Seriously?
On 12/16/22 11:55 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 11:33:49 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
This seems bad enough and it doesn't have the alarming pictures of the
homeless that scare you:
https://sfstandard.com/business/san-francisco-braces-for-epic-commercial-real-estate-crash/
Although the "slow moving train" in the opening is alarmist. Speaking of >> "slow":
https://www.sfexaminer.com/archives/san-francisco-office-occupancy-rises-but-trails-national-trend/article_e8cbf142-0767-5ac1-9630-28cd15d6ebad.html
(Updated Jun 16, 2022)
Slow and steady wins the race — at least, according to people in the
business of urging employees to return to the financial district...
https://californiaglobe.com/articles/san-francisco-office-occupancy-still-under-40-despite-ending-mask-mandate/
"Occupancy is expected to reach above 40% in San Francisco by the end of >> the year."
1 pt projected up from unsustainable bad levels and you're claiming the future is bright?Up a point is better than a catastrophic collapse.
Seriously?
Also, I didn't say
"the future is bright." Too bad it isn't easy to convert office to
housing as increased supply would be a relief.
Not to say it never happens:
https://www.nmrk.com/insights/press-releases/newmark-announces-rare-office-to-residential-conversion-opportunity-in-san-francisco
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 11:24:00 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
On 12/16/22 11:55 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 11:33:49 AM UTC-8, MINe109
wrote:
This seems bad enough and it doesn't have the alarming pictures
of the homeless that scare you:
https://sfstandard.com/business/san-francisco-braces-for-epic-commercial-real-estate-crash/
Although the "slow moving train" in the opening is alarmist.
Up a point is better than a catastrophic collapse.https://californiaglobe.com/articles/san-francisco-office-occupancy-still-under-40-despite-ending-mask-mandate/
"Occupancy is expected to reach above 40% in San Francisco by the end of the year."
1 pt projected up from unsustainable bad levels and you're
claiming the future is bright? Seriously?
Much of the unoccupied space is still under lease. When those leases
expire is when that time bomb goes boom.
Also, I didn't say "the future is bright." Too bad it isn't easy to
convert office to housing as increased supply would be a relief.
Not to say it never happens:
https://www.nmrk.com/insights/press-releases/newmark-announces-rare-office-to-residential-conversion-opportunity-in-san-francisco
Do you even read your own shit? That's a realtor advertising the
building for sale. Guess what? 6 months later it's still on the
market.
https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/1049-Market-St-San-Francisco-CA/25820345/
Why don't you buy it and turn it into a homeless shelter?
On 12/16/22 9:08 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 11:24:00 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
On 12/16/22 11:55 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 11:33:49 AM UTC-8, MINe109
wrote:
This seems bad enough and it doesn't have the alarming pictures
of the homeless that scare you:
https://sfstandard.com/business/san-francisco-braces-for-epic-commercial-real-estate-crash/
Up a point is better than a catastrophic collapse.Although the "slow moving train" in the opening is alarmist.
https://californiaglobe.com/articles/san-francisco-office-occupancy-still-under-40-despite-ending-mask-mandate/
"Occupancy is expected to reach above 40% in San Francisco by the end of the year."
1 pt projected up from unsustainable bad levels and you're
claiming the future is bright? Seriously?
Much of the unoccupied space is still under lease. When those leasesYes, the "slow moving train" referred to above.
expire is when that time bomb goes boom.
Also, I didn't say "the future is bright." Too bad it isn't easy to
convert office to housing as increased supply would be a relief.
Not to say it never happens:
https://www.nmrk.com/insights/press-releases/newmark-announces-rare-office-to-residential-conversion-opportunity-in-san-francisco
Do you even read your own shit? That's a realtor advertising theIs it not a commercial to residential conversion?
building for sale. Guess what? 6 months later it's still on the
market.
On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 7:26:38 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
On 12/16/22 9:08 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 11:24:00 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
Too bad it isn't easy to convert office to housing as increased supply would be a relief.
Is it not a commercial to residential conversion?Not to say it never happens:
https://www.nmrk.com/insights/press-releases/newmark-announces-rare-office-to-residential-conversion-opportunity-in-san-francisco
Do you even read your own shit? That's a realtor advertising the
building for sale. Guess what? 6 months later it's still on the
market.
No...it's a realtor sales pitch claiming it's an option yet no
developer has taken 'em up on the offer.
Want to know why? Cuz no one wants to buy residential
real estate in the middle of a dying city.
If it was such a great idea even you could get financing....well maybe not you.
But Trump could and he's not interested cuz he's way smarter than you when it comes
to real estate.
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