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  • How much election rigging BS can you take?

    From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 20 17:34:51 2022
    The Biden administration vastly overstated its estimate that employers created more than 1 million jobs in the second quarter of this year, claiming historic job growth when in fact hiring had stalled, according to a new estimate.

    Job growth was “essentially flat” in the second quarter with only 10,500 jobs added, the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia said.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/dec/16/biden-administrations-claim-1-million-jobs-added-s/

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Wed Dec 21 09:25:43 2022
    On 12/20/22 7:34 PM, ScottW wrote:
    The Biden administration vastly overstated its estimate that
    employers created more than 1 million jobs in the second quarter of
    this year, claiming historic job growth when in fact hiring had
    stalled, according to a new estimate.

    Job growth was “essentially flat” in the second quarter with only
    10,500 jobs added, the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia said.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/dec/16/biden-administrations-claim-1-million-jobs-added-s/

    That's not an "overestimation," it's a report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (not the White House), and the difference is not even a BLS
    revision which would be normal, but due to a different organization
    using different criteria, ie quarterly rather than annually adjusted
    estimates.

    And this is the BLS on those different methods:

    https://www.bls.gov/ces/notices/2021/experimental-quarterly-benchmarking-from-the-current-employment-statistics-survey.htm

    "[R]esearch revealed that all of the proposed methods produced numerous critical issues. These problems included quarterly benchmark revisions
    larger than one annual benchmark revision, diminished times series
    quality, and concerns over whether the new methodology would
    appropriately account for the seasonal differences...

    Therefore, BLS has decided to halt this research and redirect resources
    to other program initiatives."

    Bob Elliott on Twitter: So its a crap way to approach the problem with incredible volatility when you test it over time.

    It should be *totally ignored.* If its really this bad, the Philly Fed
    is doing everyone a disservice by publishing it. This is not to Fed
    research standards.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 21 08:57:57 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 7:25:46 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/20/22 7:34 PM, ScottW wrote:
    The Biden administration vastly overstated its estimate that
    employers created more than 1 million jobs in the second quarter of
    this year, claiming historic job growth when in fact hiring had
    stalled, according to a new estimate.

    Job growth was “essentially flat” in the second quarter with only 10,500 jobs added, the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia said.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/dec/16/biden-administrations-claim-1-million-jobs-added-s/
    That's not an "overestimation," it's a report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (not the White House),

    Who was just deflecting that something that wasn't from the WH also happened under Trump?
    Oh yeah....that was you.

    Your standards are as stable as a bouncing ball.

    Bottom line....anyone who believed the Biden BS on job growth when it was all just
    from covid lockdowns being lifted is a moron.
    Are you a moron?

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Wed Dec 21 14:33:02 2022
    On 12/21/22 10:57 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 7:25:46 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/20/22 7:34 PM, ScottW wrote:
    The Biden administration vastly overstated its estimate that
    employers created more than 1 million jobs in the second quarter of
    this year, claiming historic job growth when in fact hiring had
    stalled, according to a new estimate.

    Job growth was “essentially flat” in the second quarter with only
    10,500 jobs added, the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia said.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/dec/16/biden-administrations-claim-1-million-jobs-added-s/
    That's not an "overestimation," it's a report from the Bureau of Labor
    Statistics (not the White House),

    Who was just deflecting that something that wasn't from the WH also happened under Trump?
    Oh yeah....that was you.

    Which has nothing to do with the point that you're pointing to the WH
    for the statements of the BLS.

    Your standards are as stable as a bouncing ball.

    Bottom line....anyone who believed the Biden BS on job growth when it was all just
    from covid lockdowns being lifted is a moron.
    Are you a moron?

    Turns out if you use a different methodology you might get a different
    result even if it's of questionable validity. But thanks for your
    implicit acceptance there was job growth.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 21 18:30:55 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 12:33:05 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/21/22 10:57 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 7:25:46 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/20/22 7:34 PM, ScottW wrote:
    The Biden administration vastly overstated its estimate that
    employers created more than 1 million jobs in the second quarter of
    this year, claiming historic job growth when in fact hiring had
    stalled, according to a new estimate.

    Job growth was “essentially flat” in the second quarter with only >>> 10,500 jobs added, the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia said.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/dec/16/biden-administrations-claim-1-million-jobs-added-s/
    That's not an "overestimation," it's a report from the Bureau of Labor
    Statistics (not the White House),

    Who was just deflecting that something that wasn't from the WH also happened under Trump?
    Oh yeah....that was you.
    Which has nothing to do with the point that you're pointing to the WH
    for the statements of the BLS.

    How many times did Joe stand before the camera's and respew this lie?

    You can't hide from this.....no matter how badly you wish you could.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Thu Dec 22 09:55:33 2022
    On 12/21/22 8:30 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 12:33:05 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/21/22 10:57 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 7:25:46 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/20/22 7:34 PM, ScottW wrote:
    The Biden administration vastly overstated its estimate that
    employers created more than 1 million jobs in the second quarter of
    this year, claiming historic job growth when in fact hiring had
    stalled, according to a new estimate.

    Job growth was “essentially flat” in the second quarter with only >>>>> 10,500 jobs added, the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia said.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/dec/16/biden-administrations-claim-1-million-jobs-added-s/
    That's not an "overestimation," it's a report from the Bureau of Labor >>>> Statistics (not the White House),

    Who was just deflecting that something that wasn't from the WH also happened under Trump?
    Oh yeah....that was you.
    Which has nothing to do with the point that you're pointing to the WH
    for the statements of the BLS.

    How many times did Joe stand before the camera's and respew this lie?

    Still not a lie. It's the BLS regular assessment done according to the
    usual methodology.

    You can't hide from this.....no matter how badly you wish you could.

    From a dodgy methodology? What I can do is wait and see how it compares
    to whatever revisions the BLS makes in the usual manner. However,
    malfeasance and lies have nothing to do with it, which is why I didn't
    blame them when past revisions showed they'd missed improving numbers
    that would have been advantageous to Biden.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 22 09:22:54 2022
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 7:55:35 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/21/22 8:30 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 12:33:05 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/21/22 10:57 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 7:25:46 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 12/20/22 7:34 PM, ScottW wrote:
    The Biden administration vastly overstated its estimate that
    employers created more than 1 million jobs in the second quarter of >>>>> this year, claiming historic job growth when in fact hiring had
    stalled, according to a new estimate.

    Job growth was “essentially flat” in the second quarter with only >>>>> 10,500 jobs added, the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia said. >>>>>
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/dec/16/biden-administrations-claim-1-million-jobs-added-s/
    That's not an "overestimation," it's a report from the Bureau of Labor >>>> Statistics (not the White House),

    Who was just deflecting that something that wasn't from the WH also happened under Trump?
    Oh yeah....that was you.
    Which has nothing to do with the point that you're pointing to the WH
    for the statements of the BLS.

    How many times did Joe stand before the camera's and respew this lie?
    Still not a lie. It's the BLS regular assessment done according to the
    usual methodology.

    BLS = Biden's Lying Shits

    ScottW

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