• Joe busted for snagging Classified docs

    From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 9 17:50:41 2023
    https://adnamerica.com/en/united-states/president-biden-was-possession-classified-documents-returned-them-national-archives

    We need a raid!

    ScottW

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 10 09:10:38 2023
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 9:05:51 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/9/23 7:50 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://adnamerica.com/en/united-states/president-biden-was-possession-classified-documents-returned-them-national-archives

    We need a raid!
    No need when he reports and returns immediately.

    How many years has it been? You call that immediately?
    And how do you know all have been found and returned?

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Tue Jan 10 11:05:50 2023
    On 1/9/23 7:50 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://adnamerica.com/en/united-states/president-biden-was-possession-classified-documents-returned-them-national-archives

    We need a raid!

    No need when he reports and returns immediately.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Tue Jan 10 11:35:05 2023
    On 1/10/23 11:10 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 9:05:51 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/9/23 7:50 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://adnamerica.com/en/united-states/president-biden-was-possession-classified-documents-returned-them-national-archives

    We need a raid!
    No need when he reports and returns immediately.

    How many years has it been? You call that immediately?
    And how do you know all have been found and returned?

    Discovered in November, returned the next day, disclosed in January.

    It helps that Biden had security clearance.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 10 09:38:46 2023
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 9:35:07 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/10/23 11:10 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 9:05:51 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/9/23 7:50 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://adnamerica.com/en/united-states/president-biden-was-possession-classified-documents-returned-them-national-archives

    We need a raid!
    No need when he reports and returns immediately.

    How many years has it been? You call that immediately?
    And how do you know all have been found and returned?
    Discovered in November, returned the next day, disclosed in January.

    It helps that Biden had security clearance.

    What was it Joe said about taking classified docs?
    'Who could be so irresponsible!"

    ScottW

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 10 09:51:16 2023
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 9:35:07 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/10/23 11:10 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 9:05:51 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/9/23 7:50 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://adnamerica.com/en/united-states/president-biden-was-possession-classified-documents-returned-them-national-archives

    We need a raid!
    No need when he reports and returns immediately.

    How many years has it been? You call that immediately?
    And how do you know all have been found and returned?
    Discovered in November, returned the next day, disclosed in January.

    It helps that Biden had security clearance.

    Not really. He wasn't President so he didn't have declassification authority and having security clearance means he knows removing them and storing them improperly
    was illegal.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Tue Jan 10 14:02:39 2023
    On 1/10/23 11:38 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 9:35:07 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/10/23 11:10 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 9:05:51 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/9/23 7:50 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://adnamerica.com/en/united-states/president-biden-was-possession-classified-documents-returned-them-national-archives

    We need a raid!
    No need when he reports and returns immediately.

    How many years has it been? You call that immediately?
    And how do you know all have been found and returned?
    Discovered in November, returned the next day, disclosed in January.

    It helps that Biden had security clearance.

    What was it Joe said about taking classified docs?
    'Who could be so irresponsible!"

    Which is why Biden and his staffers are cooperating instead of delaying, fighting, claiming to declassify by secret thoughts, etc.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Tue Jan 10 14:12:06 2023
    On 1/10/23 11:51 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 9:35:07 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/10/23 11:10 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 9:05:51 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/9/23 7:50 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://adnamerica.com/en/united-states/president-biden-was-possession-classified-documents-returned-them-national-archives

    We need a raid!
    No need when he reports and returns immediately.

    How many years has it been? You call that immediately?
    And how do you know all have been found and returned?
    Discovered in November, returned the next day, disclosed in January.

    It helps that Biden had security clearance.

    Not really. He wasn't President so he didn't have declassification authority
    and having security clearance means he knows removing them and storing them improperly
    was illegal.

    It means he was allowed to see them although it's not clear they were in
    his possession since they were found in a locked closet at a think tank
    run by a former Secretary of State and by a current top aide to the
    President.

    Besides, Trump argues an NARA referral is not judicially enforceable.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 10 15:58:39 2023
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 12:12:08 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/10/23 11:51 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 9:35:07 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/10/23 11:10 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 9:05:51 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/9/23 7:50 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://adnamerica.com/en/united-states/president-biden-was-possession-classified-documents-returned-them-national-archives

    We need a raid!
    No need when he reports and returns immediately.

    How many years has it been? You call that immediately?
    And how do you know all have been found and returned?
    Discovered in November, returned the next day, disclosed in January.

    It helps that Biden had security clearance.

    Not really. He wasn't President so he didn't have declassification authority
    and having security clearance means he knows removing them and storing them improperly
    was illegal.
    It means he was allowed to see them although it's not clear they were in
    his possession since they were found in a locked closet at a think tank
    run by a former Secretary of State and by a current top aide to the President.

    Which means they were clearly improperly/illegally handled.

    Trump's declassification authority is actually a stronger legal defense than Joe can
    muster.....but he won't be held to the same standard.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Wed Jan 11 09:43:13 2023
    On 1/10/23 5:58 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 12:12:08 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/10/23 11:51 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 9:35:07 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/10/23 11:10 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 9:05:51 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/9/23 7:50 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://adnamerica.com/en/united-states/president-biden-was-possession-classified-documents-returned-them-national-archives

    We need a raid!
    No need when he reports and returns immediately.

    How many years has it been? You call that immediately?
    And how do you know all have been found and returned?
    Discovered in November, returned the next day, disclosed in January.

    It helps that Biden had security clearance.

    Not really. He wasn't President so he didn't have declassification authority
    and having security clearance means he knows removing them and storing them improperly
    was illegal.
    It means he was allowed to see them although it's not clear they were in
    his possession since they were found in a locked closet at a think tank
    run by a former Secretary of State and by a current top aide to the
    President.

    Which means they were clearly improperly/illegally handled.

    Yes, they were improperly handled and stored, however safely.

    Trump's declassification authority is actually a stronger legal defense than Joe can
    muster.....but he won't be held to the same standard.

    Except that Biden isn't claiming the documents were declassified and
    there won't be a legal defense unless there's a criminal charge.

    Self-reporting and immediately returning the documents is a clear
    contrast to Trump's response which showed an intent to keep the
    documents to which he had no right to possess.

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 11 09:18:46 2023
    MINe109 wrote:

    Self-reporting and immediately returning the documents is a clear
    contrast to Trump's response which showed an intent to keep the
    documents to which he had no right to possess.

    "They're MINE! WAAAH!"

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