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  • A question...does anyone have the courage?

    From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 23 20:02:13 2023
    Former President Harry Truman wrote in the Washington Post that “for some time I have been disturbed by the way [the] CIA has been diverted from its original assignment. It has become an operational and at times a policy-making arm of the Government.
    This has led to trouble and may have compounded our difficulties in several explosive areas.” He added, “We have grown up as a nation, respected for our free institutions and for our ability to maintain a free and open society. There is something
    about the way the CIA has been functioning that is casting a shadow over our historic position and I feel that we need to correct it.”

    Yet it has never been corrected. The CIA and FBI are almost completely unaccountable to anyone and, it is increasingly obvious, deeply corrupt and politicized. Does anyone have the courage, or the ability, to face down these rogue agencies?

    This came after commentary on Tucker's monologue on the CIA vs Nixon.

    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/robert-spencer/2023/01/23/ok-so-did-the-cia-engineer-watergate-to-get-rid-of-nixon-n1664306

    I really like this little piece of additional info/clarification.

    The Nixon/Helms conversation didn’t take place on June 23, 1972, but on Oct. 8, 1971 (it’s further mislabeled on this audio file as taking place on Oct. 10, 1971, but the Nixon tape logs set the meeting on the 8th). Nixon said to Helms: “Uh, Who
    shot John [JFK]? Uh, is Eisenhower to blame? Is Johnson to blame? Is Kennedy to blame? Is Nixon to blame? Etcetera etcetera etcetera. [This] may become, may become, not by me, but may become a very, very, uh, vigorous issue. If it does, uh, I need to
    know what is necessary to protect our inquiries, the intelligence gathering and the Dirty Tricks Department. And I will protect it. Hey listen, I’ve done more than my share of lying to protect it. I will do it and I believe it’s totally right to do
    it.”

    Who knew...Nixon and Stephen share a common belief in the gov't.

    ScottW

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  • From MINe109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Tue Jan 24 06:13:03 2023
    On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 10:02:14 PM UTC-6, ScottW wrote:

    Who knew...Nixon and Stephen share a common belief in the gov't.

    Yes, belief in the government is the backbone of civic life in the United States. June 23, 1972 is the "Smoking gun" conversation with Haldeman in which Nixon indicated his involvement in Watergate.

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/06/05/nixon-helms-cia-jfk-assassination-00037232

    Haldeman suggested that Nixon used the phrase, “the whole Bay of Pigs thing,” as a coded reference to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy on Nov. 22, 1963. It was, he wrote, “the president’s way of reminding Helms, not so gently, of
    the cover-up of the CIA assassination attempts on the hero of the Bay of Pigs, Fidel Castro, a CIA operation that may have triggered the Kennedy tragedy and which Helms desperately wanted to hide.”

    End quote.

    So, the CIA 'took out' Kennedy in the sense that Cuba was behind the assassination in retaliation for CIA operations.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 24 10:45:05 2023
    On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:13:04 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 10:02:14 PM UTC-6, ScottW wrote:

    Who knew...Nixon and Stephen share a common belief in the gov't.
    Yes, belief in the government is the backbone of civic life in the United States.

    Your backbone has no spine to deal with corruption in govt.

    ScottW

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