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    From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 26 16:05:46 2023
    The system is continuing to project that it will be 7% below its state-funded target of 383,680 for resident students during the 2022-23 academic year — that’s more than 25,000 full-time equivalent students. The decreases are due to the effects of
    the pandemic and long-term declining birth rates.

    “Should this enrollment decline become sustained it will present a fundamental and significant threat to our missions, to the fundamental viability of our universities and the future of the communities that we serve,” Koester said.

    Despite the decrease in enrollment, Gov. Gavin Newsom’s January budget included a general fund increase of $227 million — a 5% increase — to the CSU system. That increase is tied to a multiyear compact made between the state and the university
    system that expects increasing enrollment.

    Did they ever consider that enrollment is down due to the cost
    and the declining return on investment for most of their BS degrees?
    Apparently not.
    Of course the recent massive tech layoffs have punched a big fat hole in Biden's "learn to code" crap for displaced energy workers.

    On a tangent I recently watched a clip interview of some academic discussing the impact of AI on social media and how programs to create content were advancing rapidly. He said that generally tech advancements like AI result in new opportunities and we
    just have to invest in retraining the displaced. I can't think of a more ripe opportunity for AI to displace someone than a college professor.

    ScottW


    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Jan 27 09:22:03 2023
    On 1/26/23 6:05 PM, ScottW wrote:
    The system is continuing to project that it will be 7% below its
    state-funded target of 383,680 for resident students during the
    2022-23 academic year — that’s more than 25,000 full-time equivalent students. The decreases are due to the effects of the pandemic and
    long-term declining birth rates.

    “Should this enrollment decline become sustained it will present a fundamental and significant threat to our missions, to the
    fundamental viability of our universities and the future of the
    communities that we serve,” Koester said.

    Despite the decrease in enrollment, Gov. Gavin Newsom’s January
    budget included a general fund increase of $227 million — a 5%
    increase — to the CSU system. That increase is tied to a multiyear
    compact made between the state and the university system that expects increasing enrollment.

    Did they ever consider that enrollment is down due to the cost and
    the declining return on investment for most of their BS degrees?

    By "cost," you mean lack of state support for higher education. Yes, the
    high cost is a problem but while it's hardly a local California thing
    Reagan did begin the trend of starving state colleges and universities.

    Apparently not. Of course the recent massive tech layoffs have
    punched a big fat hole in Biden's "learn to code" crap for displaced
    energy workers.

    How many coal miners were following up on that? And that dates back to
    2020 when tech was strong and adding workers.

    The current advice for displaced coal miners should be for health care
    so West Virginians can be paid to dispense medicine to each other.

    On a tangent I recently watched a clip interview of some academic
    discussing the impact of AI on social media and how programs to
    create content were advancing rapidly. He said that generally tech advancements like AI result in new opportunities and we just have to
    invest in retraining the displaced. I can't think of a more ripe opportunity for AI to displace someone than a college professor.

    Except you need college professors to teach AI.

    https://cdso.utexas.edu/msai

    "The Master of Science in Artificial Intelligence (MSAI) is an online
    graduate program built for professionals ready to enhance their skills
    and excel in the rapidly growing field of artificial intelligence (AI). Delivered by expert faculty at The University of Texas at Austin, the
    MSAI program offers students rigorous, high-value instruction in a
    flexible and supportive online learning environment."

    I suppose you could have a course in which students turn in AI-generated
    work to be checked by AI graders. It's working for journalism:

    https://futurism.com/cnet-ai-plagiarism

    "[A] new Futurism investigation found extensive evidence that the CNET
    AI's work has demonstrated deep structural and phrasing similarities to articles previously published elsewhere, without giving credit. In other
    words, it looks like the bot directly plagiarized the work of Red
    Ventures competitors, as well as human writers at Bankrate and even CNET itself."

    Also, "college professor" is already a shrinking job category as they're
    being replaced by the equivalent of gig workers: part-timers, graduate assistants, post-docs, etc.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 27 17:24:32 2023
    On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 7:22:05 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/26/23 6:05 PM, ScottW wrote:
    The system is continuing to project that it will be 7% below its state-funded target of 383,680 for resident students during the
    2022-23 academic year — that’s more than 25,000 full-time equivalent students. The decreases are due to the effects of the pandemic and long-term declining birth rates.

    “Should this enrollment decline become sustained it will present a fundamental and significant threat to our missions, to the
    fundamental viability of our universities and the future of the communities that we serve,” Koester said.

    Despite the decrease in enrollment, Gov. Gavin Newsom’s January
    budget included a general fund increase of $227 million — a 5%
    increase — to the CSU system. That increase is tied to a multiyear compact made between the state and the university system that expects increasing enrollment.

    Did they ever consider that enrollment is down due to the cost and
    the declining return on investment for most of their BS degrees?
    By "cost," you mean lack of state support for higher education.

    No...I don't. And the state subsidy of and partnership with higher education has only resulted in creation of oligarchy in education and a blockade
    against new emerging and cost effective approaches to the problem.
    But thanks for pointing out the problem of states funding higher education which benefits only a tiny fraction of state citizens while using those institutions
    to indoctrinate to the benefit of democrats.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Jan 28 09:48:35 2023
    On 1/27/23 7:24 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 7:22:05 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/26/23 6:05 PM, ScottW wrote:
    The system is continuing to project that it will be 7% below its
    state-funded target of 383,680 for resident students during the
    2022-23 academic year — that’s more than 25,000 full-time equivalent >>> students. The decreases are due to the effects of the pandemic and
    long-term declining birth rates.

    “Should this enrollment decline become sustained it will present a
    fundamental and significant threat to our missions, to the
    fundamental viability of our universities and the future of the
    communities that we serve,” Koester said.

    Despite the decrease in enrollment, Gov. Gavin Newsom’s January
    budget included a general fund increase of $227 million — a 5%
    increase — to the CSU system. That increase is tied to a multiyear
    compact made between the state and the university system that expects
    increasing enrollment.

    Did they ever consider that enrollment is down due to the cost and
    the declining return on investment for most of their BS degrees?
    By "cost," you mean lack of state support for higher education.

    No...I don't.
    State support down, cost to students up. Of course cost contributes to a student's decision compared to future employability, etc.

    There are other factors involved but the greater point is cost and
    demographics are enough to explain the situation.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 28 16:03:45 2023
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 7:48:37 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/27/23 7:24 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 7:22:05 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/26/23 6:05 PM, ScottW wrote:
    The system is continuing to project that it will be 7% below its
    state-funded target of 383,680 for resident students during the
    2022-23 academic year — that’s more than 25,000 full-time equivalent >>> students. The decreases are due to the effects of the pandemic and
    long-term declining birth rates.

    “Should this enrollment decline become sustained it will present a
    fundamental and significant threat to our missions, to the
    fundamental viability of our universities and the future of the
    communities that we serve,” Koester said.

    Despite the decrease in enrollment, Gov. Gavin Newsom’s January
    budget included a general fund increase of $227 million — a 5%
    increase — to the CSU system. That increase is tied to a multiyear
    compact made between the state and the university system that expects >>> increasing enrollment.

    Did they ever consider that enrollment is down due to the cost and
    the declining return on investment for most of their BS degrees?
    By "cost," you mean lack of state support for higher education.

    No...I don't.
    State support down, cost to students up.

    BS Education costs have risen at 3x the rate of inflation.
    Number of "administrators"/student also way up.

    Much of this came after the gov't got so heavily involved
    in handing out student loans eliminating almost all market
    price controls.

    Add to this the nonsense in Ca. where for no reason at all they hand out
    over 2 grand a month to students for living expenses as long as they
    have an address other than mommy and daddy's.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sun Jan 29 11:48:31 2023
    On 1/28/23 6:03 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 7:48:37 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/27/23 7:24 PM, ScottW wrote:

    Did they ever consider that enrollment is down due to the cost and
    the declining return on investment for most of their BS degrees?
    By "cost," you mean lack of state support for higher education.

    No...I don't.
    State support down, cost to students up.

    BS Education costs have risen at 3x the rate of inflation.

    Your knack for manipulating zero sums has escaped you.

    Number of "administrators"/student also way up.

    I agree this is a problem.

    Much of this came after the gov't got so heavily involved
    in handing out student loans eliminating almost all market
    price controls.

    Yes, more to blame on Reagan.

    Add to this the nonsense in Ca. where for no reason at all they hand out
    over 2 grand a month to students for living expenses as long as they
    have an address other than mommy and daddy's.

    Would that even cover rent in Berkeley or LA?

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 29 19:28:38 2023
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:48:33 PM UTC-5, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/28/23 6:03 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 7:48:37 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/27/23 7:24 PM, ScottW wrote:

    Did they ever consider that enrollment is down due to the cost and >>>>> the declining return on investment for most of their BS degrees?
    By "cost," you mean lack of state support for higher education.

    No...I don't.
    State support down, cost to students up.

    BS Education costs have risen at 3x the rate of inflation.
    Your knack for manipulating zero sums has escaped you.
    Number of "administrators"/student also way up.
    I agree this is a problem.
    Much of this came after the gov't got so heavily involved
    in handing out student loans eliminating almost all market
    price controls.
    Yes, more to blame on Reagan.
    Add to this the nonsense in Ca. where for no reason at all they hand out over 2 grand a month to students for living expenses as long as they
    have an address other than mommy and daddy's.
    Would that even cover rent in Berkeley or LA?

    A college student would likely be renting a room is some sort of shared housing arrangement.

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  • From MINe109@21:1/5 to hootervil...@yahoo.com on Mon Jan 30 08:44:17 2023
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 9:28:40 PM UTC-6, hootervil...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:48:33 PM UTC-5, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/28/23 6:03 PM, ScottW wrote:

    Add to this the nonsense in Ca. where for no reason at all they hand out over 2 grand a month to students for living expenses as long as they
    have an address other than mommy and daddy's.
    Would that even cover rent in Berkeley or LA?
    A college student would likely be renting a room is some sort of shared housing arrangement.

    Indeed. Apartments.com has rent for a two-bedroom at an average of $3,670.

    Also, "no reason" is highly debatable.

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 30 12:22:04 2023
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 11:44:19 AM UTC-5, MINe109 wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 9:28:40 PM UTC-6, hootervil...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:48:33 PM UTC-5, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/28/23 6:03 PM, ScottW wrote:

    Add to this the nonsense in Ca. where for no reason at all they hand out
    over 2 grand a month to students for living expenses as long as they have an address other than mommy and daddy's.
    Would that even cover rent in Berkeley or LA?
    A college student would likely be renting a room is some sort of shared housing arrangement.
    Indeed. Apartments.com has rent for a two-bedroom at an average of $3,670.



    Well, that can fit three students, two sharing the master (am I allowed to use that word?) bedroom and one in the
    smaller bedroom. $1,230 per month

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Mon Jan 30 16:04:23 2023
    On 1/30/23 2:22 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 11:44:19 AM UTC-5, MINe109 wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 9:28:40 PM UTC-6, hootervil...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:48:33 PM UTC-5, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/28/23 6:03 PM, ScottW wrote:

    Add to this the nonsense in Ca. where for no reason at all they hand out >>>>> over 2 grand a month to students for living expenses as long as they >>>>> have an address other than mommy and daddy's.
    Would that even cover rent in Berkeley or LA?
    A college student would likely be renting a room is some sort of shared housing arrangement.
    Indeed. Apartments.com has rent for a two-bedroom at an average of $3,670.

    Well, that can fit three students, two sharing the master (am I allowed to use that word?) bedroom and one in the
    smaller bedroom. $1,230 per month

    Well-divided! That leaves about $700 for food, utilities, bus passes,
    etc. Not exactly luxury living and assumes this average apartment is on
    offer for students without credit scores, income requirements or other barriers.

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 30 21:01:10 2023
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 5:04:26 PM UTC-5, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/30/23 2:22 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 11:44:19 AM UTC-5, MINe109 wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 9:28:40 PM UTC-6, hootervil...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:48:33 PM UTC-5, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/28/23 6:03 PM, ScottW wrote:

    Add to this the nonsense in Ca. where for no reason at all they hand out
    over 2 grand a month to students for living expenses as long as they >>>>> have an address other than mommy and daddy's.
    Would that even cover rent in Berkeley or LA?
    A college student would likely be renting a room is some sort of shared housing arrangement.
    Indeed. Apartments.com has rent for a two-bedroom at an average of $3,670.

    Well, that can fit three students, two sharing the master (am I allowed to use that word?) bedroom and one in the
    smaller bedroom. $1,230 per month
    Well-divided! That leaves about $700 for food, utilities, bus passes,
    etc. Not exactly luxury living and assumes this average apartment is on
    offer for students without credit scores, income requirements or other barriers.

    When I was at University, my daily diet was two Big Boys for lunch and four Big Boys for dinner,
    complements of two for one coupons in the school paper.
    A grand total cost of $2.10 per day

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Tue Jan 31 10:35:55 2023
    On 1/30/23 11:01 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 5:04:26 PM UTC-5, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/30/23 2:22 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 11:44:19 AM UTC-5, MINe109 wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 9:28:40 PM UTC-6, hootervil...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:48:33 PM UTC-5, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/28/23 6:03 PM, ScottW wrote:

    Add to this the nonsense in Ca. where for no reason at all they hand out
    over 2 grand a month to students for living expenses as long as they >>>>>>> have an address other than mommy and daddy's.
    Would that even cover rent in Berkeley or LA?
    A college student would likely be renting a room is some sort of shared housing arrangement.
    Indeed. Apartments.com has rent for a two-bedroom at an average of $3,670. >>
    Well, that can fit three students, two sharing the master (am I allowed to use that word?) bedroom and one in the
    smaller bedroom. $1,230 per month
    Well-divided! That leaves about $700 for food, utilities, bus passes,
    etc. Not exactly luxury living and assumes this average apartment is on
    offer for students without credit scores, income requirements or other
    barriers.

    When I was at University, my daily diet was two Big Boys for lunch and four Big Boys for dinner,
    complements of two for one coupons in the school paper.
    A grand total cost of $2.10 per day

    You won't be surprised that Bob's Big Boys are now $12.99 and if the
    Daily Californian still has those coupons that's $39/day.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 31 11:44:23 2023
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 8:36:02 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/30/23 11:01 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 5:04:26 PM UTC-5, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/30/23 2:22 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 11:44:19 AM UTC-5, MINe109 wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 9:28:40 PM UTC-6, hootervil...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:48:33 PM UTC-5, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/28/23 6:03 PM, ScottW wrote:

    Add to this the nonsense in Ca. where for no reason at all they hand out
    over 2 grand a month to students for living expenses as long as they >>>>>>> have an address other than mommy and daddy's.
    Would that even cover rent in Berkeley or LA?
    A college student would likely be renting a room is some sort of shared housing arrangement.
    Indeed. Apartments.com has rent for a two-bedroom at an average of $3,670.

    Well, that can fit three students, two sharing the master (am I allowed to use that word?) bedroom and one in the
    smaller bedroom. $1,230 per month
    Well-divided! That leaves about $700 for food, utilities, bus passes,
    etc. Not exactly luxury living and assumes this average apartment is on
    offer for students without credit scores, income requirements or other
    barriers.

    When I was at University, my daily diet was two Big Boys for lunch and four Big Boys for dinner,
    complements of two for one coupons in the school paper.
    A grand total cost of $2.10 per day
    You won't be surprised that Bob's Big Boys are now $12.99 and if the
    Daily Californian still has those coupons that's $39/day.

    I saw a story on Mc d's profits booming as they become the affordable food source for many.

    ScottW

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to hootervil...@yahoo.com on Tue Jan 31 11:41:46 2023
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:01:12 PM UTC-8, hootervil...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 5:04:26 PM UTC-5, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/30/23 2:22 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 11:44:19 AM UTC-5, MINe109 wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 9:28:40 PM UTC-6, hootervil...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:48:33 PM UTC-5, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/28/23 6:03 PM, ScottW wrote:

    Add to this the nonsense in Ca. where for no reason at all they hand out
    over 2 grand a month to students for living expenses as long as they >>>>> have an address other than mommy and daddy's.
    Would that even cover rent in Berkeley or LA?
    A college student would likely be renting a room is some sort of shared housing arrangement.
    Indeed. Apartments.com has rent for a two-bedroom at an average of $3,670.

    Well, that can fit three students, two sharing the master (am I allowed to use that word?) bedroom and one in the
    smaller bedroom. $1,230 per month
    Well-divided! That leaves about $700 for food, utilities, bus passes,
    etc. Not exactly luxury living and assumes this average apartment is on offer for students without credit scores, income requirements or other barriers.
    When I was at University, my daily diet was two Big Boys for lunch and four Big Boys for dinner,
    complements of two for one coupons in the school paper.
    A grand total cost of $2.10 per day

    My food budget was 1$/day.
    Staples were cereal, pot pies, potatoes, mac & cheese, and for
    a treat...pork steak, which I still enjoy.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Wed Feb 1 10:14:28 2023
    On 1/31/23 1:44 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 8:36:02 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/30/23 11:01 PM, Art Sackman wrote:

    When I was at University, my daily diet was two Big Boys for lunch and four Big Boys for dinner,
    complements of two for one coupons in the school paper.
    A grand total cost of $2.10 per day
    You won't be surprised that Bob's Big Boys are now $12.99 and if the
    Daily Californian still has those coupons that's $39/day.

    I saw a story on Mc d's profits booming as they become the affordable food source for many.

    Some are happy with a dependable $2 lunch.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 1 08:57:38 2023
    On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 8:14:31 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/31/23 1:44 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 8:36:02 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/30/23 11:01 PM, Art Sackman wrote:

    When I was at University, my daily diet was two Big Boys for lunch and four Big Boys for dinner,
    complements of two for one coupons in the school paper.
    A grand total cost of $2.10 per day
    You won't be surprised that Bob's Big Boys are now $12.99 and if the
    Daily Californian still has those coupons that's $39/day.

    I saw a story on Mc d's profits booming as they become the affordable food source for many.
    Some are happy with a dependable $2 lunch.

    Not being hungry is a prerequisite for happiness.

    ScottW

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 1 23:08:49 2023
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 11:36:02 AM UTC-5, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/30/23 11:01 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 5:04:26 PM UTC-5, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/30/23 2:22 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 11:44:19 AM UTC-5, MINe109 wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 9:28:40 PM UTC-6, hootervil...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:48:33 PM UTC-5, MINe109 wrote:
    On 1/28/23 6:03 PM, ScottW wrote:

    Add to this the nonsense in Ca. where for no reason at all they hand out
    over 2 grand a month to students for living expenses as long as they >>>>>>> have an address other than mommy and daddy's.
    Would that even cover rent in Berkeley or LA?
    A college student would likely be renting a room is some sort of shared housing arrangement.
    Indeed. Apartments.com has rent for a two-bedroom at an average of $3,670.

    Well, that can fit three students, two sharing the master (am I allowed to use that word?) bedroom and one in the
    smaller bedroom. $1,230 per month
    Well-divided! That leaves about $700 for food, utilities, bus passes,
    etc. Not exactly luxury living and assumes this average apartment is on
    offer for students without credit scores, income requirements or other
    barriers.

    When I was at University, my daily diet was two Big Boys for lunch and four Big Boys for dinner,
    complements of two for one coupons in the school paper.
    A grand total cost of $2.10 per day
    You won't be surprised that Bob's Big Boys are now $12.99 and if the
    Daily Californian still has those coupons that's $39/day.

    The present day deal on cheap eats is the Chinese buffet
    I can get all you can eat lunch and all you can eat dinner for $22 per day After 53 years of inflation, that's about the same as $2.10 per day in 1970

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