• What a surprise...Green energy = >Inflation

    From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 2 21:01:59 2023
    https://slaynews.com/news/trudeaus-green-agenda-policies-worsening-inflation-bank-canada-admits/

    Governments around the world are slowly beginning to wake up to the fact that radical green agenda policies are having devastating economic consequences.

    In America, it’s been clear for some time that Democrat President Joe Biden’s green policies have exacerbated inflation.

    Biden’s agenda has hit Americans hard, making it increasingly difficult for families to fill their grocery baskets and gas tanks.

    In Canada, major institutions are now starting to warn that far-left Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s climate policies are hurting the economy and the Canadian people.

    The Canadian central bank, the Bank of Canada, is now warning that Trudeau’s World Economic Forum-dictated green agenda policies are now worsening inflation.

    ScottW

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  • From MINe109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Feb 3 14:14:23 2023
    O 2, 2023 at 11:02:01 PM UTC-6, ScottW wrote:
    https://slaynews.com/news/trudeaus-green-agenda-policies-worsening-inflation-bank-canada-admits/

    Governments around the world are slowly beginning to wake up to the fact that radical green agenda policies are having devastating economic consequences.

    In America, it’s been clear for some time that Democrat President Joe Biden’s green policies have exacerbated inflation.

    Biden’s agenda has hit Americans hard, making it increasingly difficult for families to fill their grocery baskets and gas tanks.

    In Canada, major institutions are now starting to warn that far-left Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s climate policies are hurting the economy and the Canadian people.

    The Canadian central bank, the Bank of Canada, is now warning that Trudeau’s World Economic Forum-dictated green agenda policies are now worsening inflation.

    Weren’t some on the right complaining Biden lowered gas prices? Inflation is easing, too.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 3 15:54:44 2023
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 2:14:25 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    O 2, 2023 at 11:02:01 PM UTC-6, ScottW wrote:
    https://slaynews.com/news/trudeaus-green-agenda-policies-worsening-inflation-bank-canada-admits/

    Governments around the world are slowly beginning to wake up to the fact that radical green agenda policies are having devastating economic consequences.

    In America, it’s been clear for some time that Democrat President Joe Biden’s green policies have exacerbated inflation.

    Biden’s agenda has hit Americans hard, making it increasingly difficult for families to fill their grocery baskets and gas tanks.

    In Canada, major institutions are now starting to warn that far-left Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s climate policies are hurting the economy and the Canadian people.

    The Canadian central bank, the Bank of Canada, is now warning that Trudeau’s World Economic Forum-dictated green agenda policies are now worsening inflation.
    Weren’t some on the right complaining Biden lowered gas prices? Inflation is easing, too.

    No. And the effects of an economy totally dependent upon green energy is yet to come.

    ScottW

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 3 22:07:55 2023
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 5:14:25 PM UTC-5, MINe109 wrote:
    O 2, 2023


    Weren’t some on the right complaining Biden lowered gas prices? Inflation is easing, too.

    yes indeedy. This past Wednesday I spotted Joe at my local station, up on a ladder, lowering the prices shown on the sign.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Feb 4 08:45:49 2023
    On 2/3/23 5:54 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 2:14:25 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    O 2, 2023 at 11:02:01 PM UTC-6, ScottW wrote:
    https://slaynews.com/news/trudeaus-green-agenda-policies-worsening-inflation-bank-canada-admits/

    Governments around the world are slowly beginning to wake up to the fact that radical green agenda policies are having devastating economic consequences.

    In America, it’s been clear for some time that Democrat President Joe Biden’s green policies have exacerbated inflation.

    Biden’s agenda has hit Americans hard, making it increasingly difficult for families to fill their grocery baskets and gas tanks.

    In Canada, major institutions are now starting to warn that far-left Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s climate policies are hurting the economy and the Canadian people.

    The Canadian central bank, the Bank of Canada, is now warning that Trudeau’s World Economic Forum-dictated green agenda policies are now worsening inflation.
    Weren’t some on the right complaining Biden lowered gas prices? Inflation is easing, too.

    No.

    https://www.ksl.com/article/50569521/fed-lifts-rate-by-quarter-point-but-says-inflation-is-easing

    https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/27/house-republicans-pass-bill-to-limit-strategic-petroleum-reserve-draws.html

    "The U.S. House of Representatives passed a bill Friday aimed at
    limiting the president’s ability to draw down the nation’s Strategic Petroleum Reserve for any reason other than a “severe energy supply disruption.”

    The law is meant to prevent a repeat of President Joe Biden’s numerous withdrawals from the SPR in 2022 that Republicans contend were intended
    to lower consumer gas prices ahead of the midterm elections"

    And the effects of an economy totally dependent upon green energy is yet to come.

    "Major institutions" probably means banks and oil companies.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 4 16:05:26 2023
    On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 6:45:51 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 2/3/23 5:54 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 2:14:25 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    O 2, 2023 at 11:02:01 PM UTC-6, ScottW wrote:
    https://slaynews.com/news/trudeaus-green-agenda-policies-worsening-inflation-bank-canada-admits/

    Governments around the world are slowly beginning to wake up to the fact that radical green agenda policies are having devastating economic consequences.

    In America, it’s been clear for some time that Democrat President Joe Biden’s green policies have exacerbated inflation.

    Biden’s agenda has hit Americans hard, making it increasingly difficult for families to fill their grocery baskets and gas tanks.

    In Canada, major institutions are now starting to warn that far-left Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s climate policies are hurting the economy and the Canadian people.

    The Canadian central bank, the Bank of Canada, is now warning that Trudeau’s World Economic Forum-dictated green agenda policies are now worsening inflation.
    Weren’t some on the right complaining Biden lowered gas prices? Inflation is easing, too.

    No.
    https://www.ksl.com/article/50569521/fed-lifts-rate-by-quarter-point-but-says-inflation-is-easing

    https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/27/house-republicans-pass-bill-to-limit-strategic-petroleum-reserve-draws.html

    "The U.S. House of Representatives passed a bill Friday aimed at
    limiting the president’s ability to draw down the nation’s Strategic Petroleum Reserve for any reason other than a “severe energy supply disruption.”

    As it was intended when created. Not to become the presidents political manipulation tool.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Feb 4 18:30:35 2023
    On 2/4/23 6:05 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 6:45:51 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 2/3/23 5:54 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 2:14:25 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    O 2, 2023 at 11:02:01 PM UTC-6, ScottW wrote:
    https://slaynews.com/news/trudeaus-green-agenda-policies-worsening-inflation-bank-canada-admits/

    Governments around the world are slowly beginning to wake up to the fact that radical green agenda policies are having devastating economic consequences.

    In America, it’s been clear for some time that Democrat President Joe Biden’s green policies have exacerbated inflation.

    Biden’s agenda has hit Americans hard, making it increasingly difficult for families to fill their grocery baskets and gas tanks.

    In Canada, major institutions are now starting to warn that far-left Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s climate policies are hurting the economy and the Canadian people.

    The Canadian central bank, the Bank of Canada, is now warning that Trudeau’s World Economic Forum-dictated green agenda policies are now worsening inflation.
    Weren’t some on the right complaining Biden lowered gas prices? Inflation is easing, too.

    No.
    https://www.ksl.com/article/50569521/fed-lifts-rate-by-quarter-point-but-says-inflation-is-easing

    https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/27/house-republicans-pass-bill-to-limit-strategic-petroleum-reserve-draws.html

    "The U.S. House of Representatives passed a bill Friday aimed at
    limiting the president’s ability to draw down the nation’s Strategic
    Petroleum Reserve for any reason other than a “severe energy supply
    disruption.”

    As it was intended when created. Not to become the presidents political manipulation tool.

    Remember when Republicans criticized Biden for not doing enough to lower prices?

    https://www.energy.gov/ceser/strategic-petroleum-reserve

    "The Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR), the world's largest supply of
    emergency crude oil was established primarily to reduce the impact of disruptions in supplies of petroleum products and to carry out
    obligations of the United States under the international energy program."

    The Saudi decrease in production was such a disruption.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 4 16:32:54 2023
    On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 4:30:38 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 2/4/23 6:05 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 6:45:51 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 2/3/23 5:54 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 2:14:25 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    O 2, 2023 at 11:02:01 PM UTC-6, ScottW wrote:
    https://slaynews.com/news/trudeaus-green-agenda-policies-worsening-inflation-bank-canada-admits/

    Governments around the world are slowly beginning to wake up to the fact that radical green agenda policies are having devastating economic consequences.

    In America, it’s been clear for some time that Democrat President Joe Biden’s green policies have exacerbated inflation.

    Biden’s agenda has hit Americans hard, making it increasingly difficult for families to fill their grocery baskets and gas tanks.

    In Canada, major institutions are now starting to warn that far-left Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s climate policies are hurting the economy and the Canadian people.

    The Canadian central bank, the Bank of Canada, is now warning that Trudeau’s World Economic Forum-dictated green agenda policies are now worsening inflation.
    Weren’t some on the right complaining Biden lowered gas prices? Inflation is easing, too.

    No.
    https://www.ksl.com/article/50569521/fed-lifts-rate-by-quarter-point-but-says-inflation-is-easing

    https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/27/house-republicans-pass-bill-to-limit-strategic-petroleum-reserve-draws.html

    "The U.S. House of Representatives passed a bill Friday aimed at
    limiting the president’s ability to draw down the nation’s Strategic >> Petroleum Reserve for any reason other than a “severe energy supply
    disruption.”

    As it was intended when created. Not to become the presidents political manipulation tool.
    Remember when Republicans criticized Biden for not doing enough to lower prices?

    Enough in expanding US production. Not draining our emergency reserves for minimal short
    term benefit.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Feb 4 19:00:30 2023
    On 2/4/23 6:32 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 4:30:38 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 2/4/23 6:05 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 6:45:51 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 2/3/23 5:54 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 2:14:25 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    O 2, 2023 at 11:02:01 PM UTC-6, ScottW wrote:
    https://slaynews.com/news/trudeaus-green-agenda-policies-worsening-inflation-bank-canada-admits/

    Governments around the world are slowly beginning to wake up to the fact that radical green agenda policies are having devastating economic consequences.

    In America, it’s been clear for some time that Democrat President Joe Biden’s green policies have exacerbated inflation.

    Biden’s agenda has hit Americans hard, making it increasingly difficult for families to fill their grocery baskets and gas tanks.

    In Canada, major institutions are now starting to warn that far-left Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s climate policies are hurting the economy and the Canadian people.

    The Canadian central bank, the Bank of Canada, is now warning that Trudeau’s World Economic Forum-dictated green agenda policies are now worsening inflation.
    Weren’t some on the right complaining Biden lowered gas prices? Inflation is easing, too.

    No.
    https://www.ksl.com/article/50569521/fed-lifts-rate-by-quarter-point-but-says-inflation-is-easing

    https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/27/house-republicans-pass-bill-to-limit-strategic-petroleum-reserve-draws.html

    "The U.S. House of Representatives passed a bill Friday aimed at
    limiting the president’s ability to draw down the nation’s Strategic >>>> Petroleum Reserve for any reason other than a “severe energy supply
    disruption.”

    As it was intended when created. Not to become the presidents political manipulation tool.
    Remember when Republicans criticized Biden for not doing enough to lower
    prices?

    Enough in expanding US production. Not draining our emergency reserves for minimal short
    term benefit.

    If oil companies aren't interested in expanding production, how can
    Biden make them?

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-approves-largest-oil-gas-lease-sale-us-history-steamrolls-eco-review-inflation-bill

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  • From Trevor Wilson@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sun Feb 5 12:46:25 2023
    On 3/02/2023 4:01 pm, ScottW wrote:
    https://slaynews.com/news/trudeaus-green-agenda-policies-worsening-inflation-bank-canada-admits/

    Governments around the world are slowly beginning to wake up to the fact that radical green agenda policies are having devastating economic consequences.

    In America, it’s been clear for some time that Democrat President Joe Biden’s green policies have exacerbated inflation.

    Biden’s agenda has hit Americans hard, making it increasingly difficult for families to fill their grocery baskets and gas tanks.

    In Canada, major institutions are now starting to warn that far-left Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s climate policies are hurting the economy and the Canadian people.

    The Canadian central bank, the Bank of Canada, is now warning that Trudeau’s World Economic Forum-dictated green agenda policies are now worsening inflation.

    ScottW

    **Tell us, in as much detail that you can muster, what the inflationary
    effects of global warming will be.

    Also: Would a little inconvenient inflation right now be better than
    economic collapse later on? What will be the financial consequences of
    NYC flooding? Florida? Significant chunks of Cal? Etc?

    You need to model the downside of inaction, compared to action, before
    you can complain.

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 4 22:54:41 2023

    ScottW
    **Tell us, in as much detail that you can muster, what the inflationary effects of global warming will be.


    You're narcissistic ego.

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  • From Trevor Wilson@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Sun Feb 5 19:11:23 2023
    On 5/02/2023 5:54 pm, Art Sackman wrote:


    ScottW
    **Tell us, in as much detail that you can muster, what the inflationary
    effects of global warming will be.


    You're narcissistic ego.



    **I understand the English is not your first language. Perhaps you may
    care to have an 1 year old explain your error.

    Moron.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to Trevor Wilson on Sun Feb 5 08:15:27 2023
    On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 5:46:27 PM UTC-8, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 3/02/2023 4:01 pm, ScottW wrote:
    https://slaynews.com/news/trudeaus-green-agenda-policies-worsening-inflation-bank-canada-admits/

    Governments around the world are slowly beginning to wake up to the fact that radical green agenda policies are having devastating economic consequences.

    In America, it’s been clear for some time that Democrat President Joe Biden’s green policies have exacerbated inflation.

    Biden’s agenda has hit Americans hard, making it increasingly difficult for families to fill their grocery baskets and gas tanks.

    In Canada, major institutions are now starting to warn that far-left Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s climate policies are hurting the economy and the Canadian people.

    The Canadian central bank, the Bank of Canada, is now warning that Trudeau’s World Economic Forum-dictated green agenda policies are now worsening inflation.

    ScottW
    **Tell us, in as much detail that you can muster, what the inflationary effects of global warming will be.

    Mixed. Crop yield may increase in some areas for example.

    snip your false predicate of "a little".

    https://www.wfp.org/global-hunger-crisis

    A record 349 million people across 79 countries are facing acute food insecurity – up from 287 million in 2021. This constitutes a staggering rise of 200 million people compared to pre-COVID-19 pandemic levels. More than 900,000 people worldwide are
    fighting to survive in famine-like conditions.

    ScottW

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  • From Trevor Wilson@21:1/5 to ScottW on Mon Feb 6 05:57:08 2023
    On 6/02/2023 3:15 am, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 5:46:27 PM UTC-8, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 3/02/2023 4:01 pm, ScottW wrote:
    https://slaynews.com/news/trudeaus-green-agenda-policies-worsening-inflation-bank-canada-admits/

    Governments around the world are slowly beginning to wake up to the fact that radical green agenda policies are having devastating economic consequences.

    In America, it’s been clear for some time that Democrat President Joe Biden’s green policies have exacerbated inflation.

    Biden’s agenda has hit Americans hard, making it increasingly difficult for families to fill their grocery baskets and gas tanks.

    In Canada, major institutions are now starting to warn that far-left Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s climate policies are hurting the economy and the Canadian people.

    The Canadian central bank, the Bank of Canada, is now warning that Trudeau’s World Economic Forum-dictated green agenda policies are now worsening inflation.

    ScottW
    **Tell us, in as much detail that you can muster, what the inflationary
    effects of global warming will be.

    Mixed. Crop yield may increase in some areas for example.

    **It "may". Or not. Our premier scientific organisation has performed experiments on wheat (one of our major agricultural exports) and found
    that higher CO2 levels do lead to higher levels of leaf growth.
    Unfortunately, it also leads to higher water demands by the crop, along
    with LOWER protein levels from the grain.

    For Australia (and every other wheat producer), this is very bad.

    So, if you eat stuff like lettuce, higher CO2 levels might be a good
    thing. Bread? Not so much.

    Thing is this: YOU DON'T FUCKING KNOW! You're guessing. You're willing
    to gamble the future of our civilisation on YOUR wild speculation.

    I am not.


    snip your false predicate of "a little".

    https://www.wfp.org/global-hunger-crisis

    A record 349 million people across 79 countries are facing acute food insecurity – up from 287 million in 2021. This constitutes a staggering rise of 200 million people compared to pre-COVID-19 pandemic levels. More than 900,000 people worldwide are
    fighting to survive in famine-like conditions.

    **Trump's little buddy, Putin, is largely responsible for that little
    mess. Rising CO2 levels will not help people suffering food insecurity
    at all. In fact, all the modelling suggests that it will get worse. MUCH
    worse.

    Here are my questions that you snipped. Answer them:

    Also: Would a little inconvenient inflation right now be better than
    economic collapse later on? What will be the financial consequences of
    NYC flooding? Florida? Significant chunks of Cal? Etc?

    You need to model the downside of inaction, compared to action, before
    you can complain.


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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to Trevor Wilson on Sun Feb 5 12:52:15 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 3:11:26 AM UTC-5, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 5/02/2023 5:54 pm, Art Sackman wrote:


    ScottW
    **Tell us, in as much detail that you can muster, what the inflationary
    effects of global warming will be.


    You're narcissistic ego.


    **I understand the English is not your first language. Perhaps you may
    care to have an 1 year old explain your error.

    Moron.
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    Thanks for proving me right.
    Your much obliged!!!!

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to Trevor Wilson on Sun Feb 5 12:54:00 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 1:57:10 PM UTC-5, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 6/02/2023 3:15 am, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 5:46:27 PM UTC-8, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 3/02/2023 4:01 pm, ScottW wrote:
    https://slaynews.com/news/trudeaus-green-agenda-policies-worsening-inflation-bank-canada-admits/

    Governments around the world are slowly beginning to wake up to the fact that radical green agenda policies are having devastating economic consequences.

    In America, it’s been clear for some time that Democrat President Joe Biden’s green policies have exacerbated inflation.

    Biden’s agenda has hit Americans hard, making it increasingly difficult for families to fill their grocery baskets and gas tanks.

    In Canada, major institutions are now starting to warn that far-left Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s climate policies are hurting the economy and the Canadian people.

    The Canadian central bank, the Bank of Canada, is now warning that Trudeau’s World Economic Forum-dictated green agenda policies are now worsening inflation.

    ScottW
    **Tell us, in as much detail that you can muster, what the inflationary >> effects of global warming will be.

    Mixed. Crop yield may increase in some areas for example.
    **It "may". Or not. Our premier scientific organisation has performed experiments on wheat (one of our major agricultural exports) and found
    that higher CO2 levels do lead to higher levels of leaf growth. Unfortunately, it also leads to higher water demands by the crop, along
    with LOWER protein levels from the grain.

    For Australia (and every other wheat producer), this is very bad.

    So, if you eat stuff like lettuce, higher CO2 levels might be a good
    thing. Bread? Not so much.

    Thing is this: YOU DON'T FUCKING KNOW! You're guessing. You're willing
    to gamble the future of our civilisation on YOUR wild speculation.

    I am not.

    snip your false predicate of "a little".

    https://www.wfp.org/global-hunger-crisis

    A record 349 million people across 79 countries are facing acute food insecurity – up from 287 million in 2021. This constitutes a staggering rise of 200 million people compared to pre-COVID-19 pandemic levels. More than 900,000 people worldwide
    are fighting to survive in famine-like conditions.
    **Trump's little buddy, Putin, is largely responsible for that little
    mess. Rising CO2 levels will not help people suffering food insecurity
    at all. In fact, all the modelling suggests that it will get worse. MUCH worse.

    Here are my questions that you snipped. Answer them:
    Also: Would a little inconvenient inflation right now be better than economic collapse later on? What will be the financial consequences of
    NYC flooding? Florida? Significant chunks of Cal? Etc?

    You need to model the downside of inaction, compared to action, before
    you can complain.


    Trump/Russia collusion debunked many moons ago.
    The Columbia School of Journalism Revies just reconfirmed that yesterday

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  • From Trevor Wilson@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Mon Feb 6 08:04:18 2023
    On 6/02/2023 7:52 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 3:11:26 AM UTC-5, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 5/02/2023 5:54 pm, Art Sackman wrote:


    ScottW
    **Tell us, in as much detail that you can muster, what the inflationary >>>> effects of global warming will be.


    You're narcissistic ego.


    **I understand the English is not your first language. Perhaps you may
    care to have an 1 year old explain your error.

    Moron.
    --


    Thanks for proving me right.
    Your much obliged!!!!

    **Perhaps you misunderstood (given the fact the English is not your
    first language - no shame in that, BTW).

    Your sentence made no sense. Like much of what you say.

    Let me help you. I made a statement and requested that Scotty explain
    his claims.

    You launched an apparent (I say apparent, because the sentence was
    nonsensical) attack on me.

    If you have nothing of value to add to the discussion, then FUCK OFF. I
    trust that those words can be understood by you.


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  • From Trevor Wilson@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Mon Feb 6 08:12:52 2023
    On 6/02/2023 7:54 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 1:57:10 PM UTC-5, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 6/02/2023 3:15 am, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 5:46:27 PM UTC-8, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 3/02/2023 4:01 pm, ScottW wrote:
    https://slaynews.com/news/trudeaus-green-agenda-policies-worsening-inflation-bank-canada-admits/

    Governments around the world are slowly beginning to wake up to the fact that radical green agenda policies are having devastating economic consequences.

    In America, it’s been clear for some time that Democrat President Joe Biden’s green policies have exacerbated inflation.

    Biden’s agenda has hit Americans hard, making it increasingly difficult for families to fill their grocery baskets and gas tanks.

    In Canada, major institutions are now starting to warn that far-left Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s climate policies are hurting the economy and the Canadian people.

    The Canadian central bank, the Bank of Canada, is now warning that Trudeau’s World Economic Forum-dictated green agenda policies are now worsening inflation.

    ScottW
    **Tell us, in as much detail that you can muster, what the inflationary >>>> effects of global warming will be.

    Mixed. Crop yield may increase in some areas for example.
    **It "may". Or not. Our premier scientific organisation has performed
    experiments on wheat (one of our major agricultural exports) and found
    that higher CO2 levels do lead to higher levels of leaf growth.
    Unfortunately, it also leads to higher water demands by the crop, along
    with LOWER protein levels from the grain.

    For Australia (and every other wheat producer), this is very bad.

    So, if you eat stuff like lettuce, higher CO2 levels might be a good
    thing. Bread? Not so much.

    Thing is this: YOU DON'T FUCKING KNOW! You're guessing. You're willing
    to gamble the future of our civilisation on YOUR wild speculation.

    I am not.

    snip your false predicate of "a little".

    https://www.wfp.org/global-hunger-crisis

    A record 349 million people across 79 countries are facing acute food insecurity – up from 287 million in 2021. This constitutes a staggering rise of 200 million people compared to pre-COVID-19 pandemic levels. More than 900,000 people worldwide
    are fighting to survive in famine-like conditions.
    **Trump's little buddy, Putin, is largely responsible for that little
    mess. Rising CO2 levels will not help people suffering food insecurity
    at all. In fact, all the modelling suggests that it will get worse. MUCH
    worse.

    Here are my questions that you snipped. Answer them:
    Also: Would a little inconvenient inflation right now be better than
    economic collapse later on? What will be the financial consequences of
    NYC flooding? Florida? Significant chunks of Cal? Etc?

    You need to model the downside of inaction, compared to action, before
    you can complain.


    Trump/Russia collusion debunked many moons ago.
    The Columbia School of Journalism Revies just reconfirmed that yesterday

    **I see what you did there. You have major problems with plain English.
    Here's the thing Arty: This forum is dominated by those who use English
    as their first language. In my case, it is my only language. So, whilst
    I admire your efforts to use English, it is abundantly clear that
    English is not your first language. I encourage you to learn more
    English, so you can both understand those of us who use English and make yourself understood more clearly.

    OK?

    I said NOTHING about the Trump/Russia collusion.

    I DID say:

    "Trump's little buddy, Putin,...."

    Here is what Trump has said about his little buddy (Putin):

    https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/28/politics/trump-putin-ukraine-russia-smart/index.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/09/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-stephanie-grisham

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-bond

    https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/donald-trump-says-he-trusts-vladimir-putin-more-than-us-intelligence-lowlifes-2328499-2023-01-31

    As for Russian influence on the 2016 US election:

    https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cyber/russian-interference-in-2016-u-s-elections

    It is VERY clear that Russia did influence the outcome.



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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Sun Feb 5 16:31:11 2023
    On 2/5/23 2:54 PM, Art Sackman wrote:

    Trump/Russia collusion debunked many moons ago.
    The Columbia School of Journalism Revies just reconfirmed that yesterday

    So happy you brought that up! Don't surprised if there are some problems
    with that article.

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/02/columbia-journalism-review-jeff-gerth-trump-russia-the-media/

    Gerth finds plenty of ammo for his assault on the media. But here’s
    where he goes wrong: He misrepresents the scandal that is the subject of
    the media coverage he is scrutinizing. He defines the Trump-Russia
    affair by only two elements of the tale: the question of Trump collusion
    with Moscow and the unconfirmed Steele dossier. This is exactly how
    Trump and his lieutenants want the scandal to be perceived. From the
    start, Trump has proclaimed “no collusion,” setting that as the bar for judging him. That is, no evidence of criminal collusion, and he’s
    scot-free. And he and his defenders have fixated on the Steele
    dossier—often falsely claiming it triggered the FBI’s investigation—to portray Trump as the victim of untrue allegations and “fake news.” Gerth essentially accepts these terms of the debate.

    Yet the focus on collusion and the Steele material has been a purposeful distraction meant to obscure the basics of the scandal: Vladimir Putin
    attacked the 2016 election in part to help Trump win, and Trump and his
    aides aided and abetted this assault on American democracy by denying
    such an attack was happening.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to Trevor Wilson on Sun Feb 5 15:59:52 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 10:57:10 AM UTC-8, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 6/02/2023 3:15 am, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 5:46:27 PM UTC-8, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 3/02/2023 4:01 pm, ScottW wrote:
    https://slaynews.com/news/trudeaus-green-agenda-policies-worsening-inflation-bank-canada-admits/

    Governments around the world are slowly beginning to wake up to the fact that radical green agenda policies are having devastating economic consequences.

    In America, it’s been clear for some time that Democrat President Joe Biden’s green policies have exacerbated inflation.

    Biden’s agenda has hit Americans hard, making it increasingly difficult for families to fill their grocery baskets and gas tanks.

    In Canada, major institutions are now starting to warn that far-left Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s climate policies are hurting the economy and the Canadian people.

    The Canadian central bank, the Bank of Canada, is now warning that Trudeau’s World Economic Forum-dictated green agenda policies are now worsening inflation.

    ScottW
    **Tell us, in as much detail that you can muster, what the inflationary >> effects of global warming will be.

    Mixed. Crop yield may increase in some areas for example.
    **It "may". Or not. Our premier scientific organisation has performed experiments on wheat (one of our major agricultural exports) and found
    that higher CO2 levels do lead to higher levels of leaf growth.

    That's not it, longer growing seasons in northern latitudes where a whole lotta land
    is.


    Unfortunately, it also leads to higher water demands by the crop, along
    with LOWER protein levels from the grain.

    For Australia (and every other wheat producer), this is very bad.

    So, if you eat stuff like lettuce, higher CO2 levels might be a good
    thing. Bread? Not so much.

    Carbs are not good for you anyway.

    Thing is this: YOU DON'T FUCKING KNOW! You're guessing.

    YOU DON'T FUCKING KNOW either.

    You're willing
    to gamble the future of our civilisation on YOUR wild speculation.

    How come civilisation is underlined. Oh yeah...the western world spells it correctly.

    Anyway, You're gambling civilization as well claiming they can actually pull off a transition to
    green energy, slash fossil fuel use and not starve half the human race in the process.


    I am not.

    snip your false predicate of "a little".

    https://www.wfp.org/global-hunger-crisis

    A record 349 million people across 79 countries are facing acute food insecurity – up from 287 million in 2021. This constitutes a staggering rise of 200 million people compared to pre-COVID-19 pandemic levels. More than 900,000 people worldwide
    are fighting to survive in famine-like conditions.
    **Trump's little buddy, Putin, is largely responsible for that little
    mess. Rising CO2 levels will not help people suffering food insecurity
    at all. In fact, all the modelling suggests that it will get worse. MUCH worse.

    So far....these insecurities are mostly due to lack of fertilizer use with fossil fuel supplies in decline.


    Here are my questions that you snipped. Answer them:
    Also: Would a little

    Not until you stop the false predicate BS.

    ScottW

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  • From Trevor Wilson@21:1/5 to ScottW on Mon Feb 6 11:43:09 2023
    On 6/02/2023 10:59 am, ScottW wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 10:57:10 AM UTC-8, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 6/02/2023 3:15 am, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 5:46:27 PM UTC-8, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 3/02/2023 4:01 pm, ScottW wrote:
    https://slaynews.com/news/trudeaus-green-agenda-policies-worsening-inflation-bank-canada-admits/

    Governments around the world are slowly beginning to wake up to the fact that radical green agenda policies are having devastating economic consequences.

    In America, it’s been clear for some time that Democrat President Joe Biden’s green policies have exacerbated inflation.

    Biden’s agenda has hit Americans hard, making it increasingly difficult for families to fill their grocery baskets and gas tanks.

    In Canada, major institutions are now starting to warn that far-left Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s climate policies are hurting the economy and the Canadian people.

    The Canadian central bank, the Bank of Canada, is now warning that Trudeau’s World Economic Forum-dictated green agenda policies are now worsening inflation.

    ScottW
    **Tell us, in as much detail that you can muster, what the inflationary >>>> effects of global warming will be.

    Mixed. Crop yield may increase in some areas for example.
    **It "may". Or not. Our premier scientific organisation has performed
    experiments on wheat (one of our major agricultural exports) and found
    that higher CO2 levels do lead to higher levels of leaf growth.

    That's not it, longer growing seasons in northern latitudes where a whole lotta land
    is.

    **Maybe, but that doesn't help those who suffer longer periods of
    drought, heavier and more prolonged rainfall, of unprecedented bushfires.

    Still, the scientists who have examined the effects of higher CO2 levels
    on plants are reporting mixed results. IOW: Some good news and some bad
    news.



    Unfortunately, it also leads to higher water demands by the crop, along
    with LOWER protein levels from the grain.

    For Australia (and every other wheat producer), this is very bad.

    So, if you eat stuff like lettuce, higher CO2 levels might be a good
    thing. Bread? Not so much.

    Carbs are not good for you anyway.

    **Carbs keep mammals alive.


    Thing is this: YOU DON'T FUCKING KNOW! You're guessing.

    YOU DON'T FUCKING KNOW either.

    **I know that the scientists at CSIRO know that the results are mixed.
    You want to perform an experiment on the only known habitable planet in
    the universe?

    I do not.


    You're willing
    to gamble the future of our civilisation on YOUR wild speculation.

    How come civilisation is underlined. Oh yeah...the western world spells it correctly.

    **Well, those of us who speak English spell it that way.


    Anyway, You're gambling civilization as well claiming they can actually pull off a transition to
    green energy, slash fossil fuel use and not starve half the human race in the process.

    **Let's be real here: You don't give a fuck about half the human race.
    If you did, you would be fighting to move to renewable energy as fast as possible.



    I am not.

    snip your false predicate of "a little".

    https://www.wfp.org/global-hunger-crisis

    A record 349 million people across 79 countries are facing acute food insecurity – up from 287 million in 2021. This constitutes a staggering rise of 200 million people compared to pre-COVID-19 pandemic levels. More than 900,000 people worldwide
    are fighting to survive in famine-like conditions.
    **Trump's little buddy, Putin, is largely responsible for that little
    mess. Rising CO2 levels will not help people suffering food insecurity
    at all. In fact, all the modelling suggests that it will get worse. MUCH
    worse.

    So far....these insecurities are mostly due to lack of fertilizer use with fossil fuel supplies in decline.

    **Nope. Most is due to Trump's good buddy, Putin.



    Here are my questions that you snipped. Answer them:
    Also: Would a little

    Not until you stop the false predicate BS.

    **Here, again, are the questions you have failed to answer:

    Also: Would a little inconvenient inflation right now be better than
    economic collapse later on? What will be the financial consequences of
    NYC flooding? Florida? Significant chunks of Cal? Etc?

    You need to model the downside of inaction, compared to action, before
    you can complain.



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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to Trevor Wilson on Sun Feb 5 20:33:36 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 4:43:12 PM UTC-8, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 6/02/2023 10:59 am, ScottW wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 10:57:10 AM UTC-8, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 6/02/2023 3:15 am, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 5:46:27 PM UTC-8, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 3/02/2023 4:01 pm, ScottW wrote:
    https://slaynews.com/news/trudeaus-green-agenda-policies-worsening-inflation-bank-canada-admits/

    Governments around the world are slowly beginning to wake up to the fact that radical green agenda policies are having devastating economic consequences.

    In America, it’s been clear for some time that Democrat President Joe Biden’s green policies have exacerbated inflation.

    Biden’s agenda has hit Americans hard, making it increasingly difficult for families to fill their grocery baskets and gas tanks.

    In Canada, major institutions are now starting to warn that far-left Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s climate policies are hurting the economy and the Canadian people.

    The Canadian central bank, the Bank of Canada, is now warning that Trudeau’s World Economic Forum-dictated green agenda policies are now worsening inflation.

    ScottW
    **Tell us, in as much detail that you can muster, what the inflationary >>>> effects of global warming will be.

    Mixed. Crop yield may increase in some areas for example.
    **It "may". Or not. Our premier scientific organisation has performed
    experiments on wheat (one of our major agricultural exports) and found
    that higher CO2 levels do lead to higher levels of leaf growth.

    That's not it, longer growing seasons in northern latitudes where a whole lotta land
    is.
    **Maybe, but that doesn't help those who suffer longer periods of
    drought, heavier and more prolonged rainfall, of unprecedented bushfires.

    Yeah...they'd rather starve than chance any of those.



    Still, the scientists who have examined the effects of higher CO2 levels
    on plants are reporting mixed results. IOW: Some good news and some bad news.


    Unfortunately, it also leads to higher water demands by the crop, along >> with LOWER protein levels from the grain.

    For Australia (and every other wheat producer), this is very bad.

    So, if you eat stuff like lettuce, higher CO2 levels might be a good
    thing. Bread? Not so much.

    Carbs are not good for you anyway.
    **Carbs keep mammals alive.

    Thing is this: YOU DON'T FUCKING KNOW! You're guessing.

    YOU DON'T FUCKING KNOW either.
    **I know that the scientists at CSIRO know that the results are mixed.

    So they don't know either.

    You want to perform an experiment on the only known habitable planet in
    the universe?

    I do not.

    Do something is an experiment. Do nothing is an experiment.
    Do a little, do a lot is an experiment.
    No matter what is or is not done...you'll not be a survivor of the experiment.



    You're willing
    to gamble the future of our civilisation on YOUR wild speculation.

    How come civilisation is underlined. Oh yeah...the western world spells it correctly.
    **Well, those of us who speak English spell it that way.

    Anyway, You're gambling civilization as well claiming they can actually pull off a transition to
    green energy, slash fossil fuel use and not starve half the human race in the process.
    **Let's be real here: You don't give a fuck about half the human race.
    If you did, you would be fighting to move to renewable energy as fast as possible.

    Send more children into the lithium mines so you can feel better about your 30% more massive e-car.

    I'm gonna pass.

    ScottW

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  • From Trevor Wilson@21:1/5 to ScottW on Mon Feb 6 16:27:28 2023
    On 6/02/2023 3:33 pm, ScottW wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 4:43:12 PM UTC-8, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 6/02/2023 10:59 am, ScottW wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 10:57:10 AM UTC-8, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 6/02/2023 3:15 am, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 5:46:27 PM UTC-8, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>> On 3/02/2023 4:01 pm, ScottW wrote:
    https://slaynews.com/news/trudeaus-green-agenda-policies-worsening-inflation-bank-canada-admits/

    Governments around the world are slowly beginning to wake up to the fact that radical green agenda policies are having devastating economic consequences.

    In America, it’s been clear for some time that Democrat President Joe Biden’s green policies have exacerbated inflation.

    Biden’s agenda has hit Americans hard, making it increasingly difficult for families to fill their grocery baskets and gas tanks.

    In Canada, major institutions are now starting to warn that far-left Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s climate policies are hurting the economy and the Canadian people.

    The Canadian central bank, the Bank of Canada, is now warning that Trudeau’s World Economic Forum-dictated green agenda policies are now worsening inflation.

    ScottW
    **Tell us, in as much detail that you can muster, what the inflationary >>>>>> effects of global warming will be.

    Mixed. Crop yield may increase in some areas for example.
    **It "may". Or not. Our premier scientific organisation has performed
    experiments on wheat (one of our major agricultural exports) and found >>>> that higher CO2 levels do lead to higher levels of leaf growth.

    That's not it, longer growing seasons in northern latitudes where a whole lotta land
    is.
    **Maybe, but that doesn't help those who suffer longer periods of
    drought, heavier and more prolonged rainfall, of unprecedented bushfires.

    Yeah...they'd rather starve than chance any of those.



    Still, the scientists who have examined the effects of higher CO2 levels
    on plants are reporting mixed results. IOW: Some good news and some bad
    news.


    Unfortunately, it also leads to higher water demands by the crop, along >>>> with LOWER protein levels from the grain.

    For Australia (and every other wheat producer), this is very bad.

    So, if you eat stuff like lettuce, higher CO2 levels might be a good
    thing. Bread? Not so much.

    Carbs are not good for you anyway.
    **Carbs keep mammals alive.

    Thing is this: YOU DON'T FUCKING KNOW! You're guessing.

    YOU DON'T FUCKING KNOW either.
    **I know that the scientists at CSIRO know that the results are mixed.

    So they don't know either.

    **Yes, they do.

    "Our premier scientific organisation has performed experiments on wheat
    (one of our major agricultural exports) and found that higher CO2 levels
    do lead to higher levels of leaf growth. Unfortunately, it also leads to
    higher water demands by the crop, along with LOWER protein levels from
    the grain.

    For Australia (and every other wheat producer), this is very bad."

    Would you like me to repeat?

    "Our premier scientific organisation has performed experiments on wheat
    (one of our major agricultural exports) and found that higher CO2 levels
    do lead to higher levels of leaf growth. Unfortunately, it also leads to
    higher water demands by the crop, along with LOWER protein levels from
    the grain.

    For Australia (and every other wheat producer), this is very bad."

    I should add that they have tested many, many crops and flora under
    various levels of CO2.


    You want to perform an experiment on the only known habitable planet in
    the universe?

    I do not.

    Do something is an experiment. Do nothing is an experiment.

    **Doing nothing ensures that the crops that we have depended upon for
    hundreds of years, will continue to be beneficial to us. The CSIRO has determined that some of those crops will demonstrate poor results under
    higher CO2 levels. They HAVE performed the experiments.

    Do a little, do a lot is an experiment.
    No matter what is or is not done...you'll not be a survivor of the experiment.

    **Not so. CSIRO has already performed the experiments. Those experiments
    are ongoing. Some of the results are extremely concerning.




    You're willing
    to gamble the future of our civilisation on YOUR wild speculation.

    How come civilisation is underlined. Oh yeah...the western world spells it correctly.
    **Well, those of us who speak English spell it that way.

    Anyway, You're gambling civilization as well claiming they can actually pull off a transition to
    green energy, slash fossil fuel use and not starve half the human race in the process.
    **Let's be real here: You don't give a fuck about half the human race.
    If you did, you would be fighting to move to renewable energy as fast as
    possible.

    Send more children into the lithium mines so you can feel better about your 30% more massive e-car.

    **My next car will be a PHEV. The one after that will either use H2 fuel
    cells or Ali_Ion batteries. Made from recycled beer cans.


    I'm gonna pass.

    **That's because you're a moron.


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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to Trevor Wilson on Mon Feb 6 07:51:44 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 9:27:29 PM UTC-8, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 6/02/2023 3:33 pm, ScottW wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 4:43:12 PM UTC-8, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 6/02/2023 10:59 am, ScottW wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 10:57:10 AM UTC-8, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 6/02/2023 3:15 am, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 5:46:27 PM UTC-8, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 3/02/2023 4:01 pm, ScottW wrote:
    https://slaynews.com/news/trudeaus-green-agenda-policies-worsening-inflation-bank-canada-admits/

    Governments around the world are slowly beginning to wake up to the fact that radical green agenda policies are having devastating economic consequences.

    In America, it’s been clear for some time that Democrat President Joe Biden’s green policies have exacerbated inflation.

    Biden’s agenda has hit Americans hard, making it increasingly difficult for families to fill their grocery baskets and gas tanks.

    In Canada, major institutions are now starting to warn that far-left Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s climate policies are hurting the economy and the Canadian people.

    The Canadian central bank, the Bank of Canada, is now warning that Trudeau’s World Economic Forum-dictated green agenda policies are now worsening inflation.

    ScottW
    **Tell us, in as much detail that you can muster, what the inflationary
    effects of global warming will be.

    Mixed. Crop yield may increase in some areas for example.
    **It "may". Or not. Our premier scientific organisation has performed >>>> experiments on wheat (one of our major agricultural exports) and found >>>> that higher CO2 levels do lead to higher levels of leaf growth.

    That's not it, longer growing seasons in northern latitudes where a whole lotta land
    is.
    **Maybe, but that doesn't help those who suffer longer periods of
    drought, heavier and more prolonged rainfall, of unprecedented bushfires.

    Yeah...they'd rather starve than chance any of those.



    Still, the scientists who have examined the effects of higher CO2 levels >> on plants are reporting mixed results. IOW: Some good news and some bad >> news.


    Unfortunately, it also leads to higher water demands by the crop, along >>>> with LOWER protein levels from the grain.

    For Australia (and every other wheat producer), this is very bad.

    So, if you eat stuff like lettuce, higher CO2 levels might be a good >>>> thing. Bread? Not so much.

    Carbs are not good for you anyway.
    **Carbs keep mammals alive.

    Thing is this: YOU DON'T FUCKING KNOW! You're guessing.

    YOU DON'T FUCKING KNOW either.
    **I know that the scientists at CSIRO know that the results are mixed.

    So they don't know either.
    **Yes, they do.

    No they don't. And your cite doesn't provide any indication of overall
    crop production or food supply.
    It's the ultimate "cherry pick". Ask Stephen about his phobia on on cherry picking.


    **My next car will be a PHEV. The one after that will either use H2 fuel cells or Ali_Ion batteries. Made from recycled beer cans.

    I don't think they'll be letting you drive that long.

    ScottW

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  • From MINe109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Mon Feb 6 09:36:52 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 10:33:38 PM UTC-6, ScottW wrote:

    Send more children into the lithium mines so you can feel better about your 30% more massive e-car.

    I'm gonna pass.

    Send them to the salt mines instead:

    https://www.pnnl.gov/news-media/longer-lasting-sodium-ion-batteries-horizon

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 6 09:47:55 2023
    On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 9:36:53 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 10:33:38 PM UTC-6, ScottW wrote:

    Send more children into the lithium mines so you can feel better about your 30% more massive e-car.

    I'm gonna pass.
    Send them to the salt mines instead:

    https://www.pnnl.gov/news-media/longer-lasting-sodium-ion-batteries-horizon

    Do you even read your BS references?

    "holding 90 percent of its cell capacity after 300 cycles"

    thats crap.

    GMAFB and thats a big improvement over previous sodium based efforts.

    ScottW

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  • From MINe109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Mon Feb 6 10:27:04 2023
    On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 11:47:57 AM UTC-6, ScottW wrote:
    On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 9:36:53 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 10:33:38 PM UTC-6, ScottW wrote:

    Send more children into the lithium mines so you can feel better about your
    30% more massive e-car.

    I'm gonna pass.
    Send them to the salt mines instead:

    https://www.pnnl.gov/news-media/longer-lasting-sodium-ion-batteries-horizon
    Do you even read your BS references?

    "holding 90 percent of its cell capacity after 300 cycles"

    thats crap.

    GMAFB and thats a big improvement over previous sodium based efforts.

    Just pointing out that there may be alternatives to lithium in the future as technology improves.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 6 14:32:17 2023
    On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 10:27:05 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 11:47:57 AM UTC-6, ScottW wrote:
    On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 9:36:53 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 10:33:38 PM UTC-6, ScottW wrote:

    Send more children into the lithium mines so you can feel better about your
    30% more massive e-car.

    I'm gonna pass.
    Send them to the salt mines instead:

    https://www.pnnl.gov/news-media/longer-lasting-sodium-ion-batteries-horizon
    Do you even read your BS references?

    "holding 90 percent of its cell capacity after 300 cycles"

    thats crap.

    GMAFB and thats a big improvement over previous sodium based efforts.
    Just pointing out that there may be alternatives to lithium in the future as technology improves.

    And may be we'll find a genetic breakthrough that allows us to fly like birdies.
    Get up on the table....Now flap.....flap I say, flap.....awful, bloody awful...

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Tue Feb 7 09:32:56 2023
    On 2/6/23 4:32 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 10:27:05 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 11:47:57 AM UTC-6, ScottW wrote:
    On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 9:36:53 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 10:33:38 PM UTC-6, ScottW wrote:

    Send more children into the lithium mines so you can feel better about your
    30% more massive e-car.

    I'm gonna pass.
    Send them to the salt mines instead:

    https://www.pnnl.gov/news-media/longer-lasting-sodium-ion-batteries-horizon
    Do you even read your BS references?

    "holding 90 percent of its cell capacity after 300 cycles"

    thats crap.

    GMAFB and thats a big improvement over previous sodium based efforts.
    Just pointing out that there may be alternatives to lithium in the future as technology improves.

    And may be we'll find a genetic breakthrough that allows us to fly like birdies.

    The sodium batteries will be sooner.

    Get up on the table....Now flap.....flap I say, flap.....awful, bloody awful...

    That's the Trump-DeSantis air accordion you're doing.

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