• So we know what Twitter was doing

    From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 8 14:10:48 2023
    at the behest of our gov't.

    https://air.tv/?v=h_aYI-oYQiW3MXgoPOQyJQ

    When do we get the other side of this twisted partnership, our gov't goons on the stand to get their fair share of reaming? Cuz that's where the real criminals are hiding in plain sight.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Wed Feb 8 16:53:19 2023
    On 2/8/23 4:10 PM, ScottW wrote:
    at the behest of our gov't.

    https://air.tv/?v=h_aYI-oYQiW3MXgoPOQyJQ

    When do we get the other side of this twisted partnership, our gov't
    goons on the stand to get their fair share of reaming? Cuz that's
    where the real criminals are hiding in plain sight.

    https://dnyuz.com/2023/02/08/whistleblower-tells-aoc-that-twitter-changed-rules-to-allow-racist-trump-tweets/

    "Navaroli explained that she and her team had recommended finding Trump
    in violation of Twitter policy for that tweet, particularly because
    phrases such as “go back to where you come from” were specifically forbidden in Twitter’s content moderation guidelines.

    When she made the recommendation to one of her superiors, Navaroli’s
    decision was overridden. A few days later, Twitter changed its content moderation policy to remove that phrase as an example of abusive language."

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 8 15:05:54 2023
    On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 2:53:21 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 2/8/23 4:10 PM, ScottW wrote:
    at the behest of our gov't.

    https://air.tv/?v=h_aYI-oYQiW3MXgoPOQyJQ

    When do we get the other side of this twisted partnership, our gov't
    goons on the stand to get their fair share of reaming? Cuz that's
    where the real criminals are hiding in plain sight.
    https://dnyuz.com/2023/02/08/whistleblower-tells-aoc-that-twitter-changed-rules-to-allow-racist-trump-tweets/

    "Navaroli explained that she and her team had recommended finding Trump
    in violation of Twitter policy for that tweet, particularly because
    phrases such as “go back to where you come from” were specifically forbidden in Twitter’s content moderation guidelines.

    When she made the recommendation to one of her superiors, Navaroli’s decision was overridden. A few days later, Twitter changed its content moderation policy to remove that phrase as an example of abusive language."

    Oh the horror.
    Ocasio-Cortez highlighted a Trump tweet from 2019 demanding why she and several of her colleagues (members of the Squad and, at the time, all women of color) don’t “go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they
    came.”

    So where was Trump referring? Could he be talking about their districts?
    I don't know. You don't know. I'm going to block your post until we get verification.
    I'm sure you don't want to be disinforming anyone and will understand my caution.
    Or will you?

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Wed Feb 8 17:24:47 2023
    On 2/8/23 5:05 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 2:53:21 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:

    https://dnyuz.com/2023/02/08/whistleblower-tells-aoc-that-twitter-changed-rules-to-allow-racist-trump-tweets/

    "Navaroli explained that she and her team had recommended finding
    Trump in violation of Twitter policy for that tweet, particularly
    because phrases such as “go back to where you come from” were
    specifically forbidden in Twitter’s content moderation guidelines.

    When she made the recommendation to one of her superiors,
    Navaroli’s decision was overridden. A few days later, Twitter
    changed its content moderation policy to remove that phrase as an
    example of abusive language."

    Oh the horror. Ocasio-Cortez highlighted a Trump tweet from 2019
    demanding why she and several of her colleagues (members of the Squad
    and, at the time, all women of color) don’t “go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.”

    So where was Trump referring? Could he be talking about their
    districts? I don't know. You don't know.

    That's why the rule was against the phrase itself, to avoid having to
    mindread or evaluate the specifics of its use.

    I'm going to block your post until we get verification. I'm sure you don't want to be
    disinforming anyone and will understand my caution. Or will you?

    No, I don't understand what you're saying. In this case there was a rule against using a specific phrase. Trump used it, she recommended his post
    be rejected but her higher ups changed the rule rather than reject it
    or Trump to rephrase it. There's no verification involved.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-trump-twitter-files-collusion-biden-censorship-1234675969/

    Apparently it was common practice for Republicans to "routinely" demand
    posts be taken down.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 8 19:31:55 2023
    On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 3:24:49 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 2/8/23 5:05 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 2:53:21 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:

    https://dnyuz.com/2023/02/08/whistleblower-tells-aoc-that-twitter-changed-rules-to-allow-racist-trump-tweets/

    "Navaroli explained that she and her team had recommended finding
    Trump in violation of Twitter policy for that tweet, particularly
    because phrases such as “go back to where you come from” were
    specifically forbidden in Twitter’s content moderation guidelines.

    When she made the recommendation to one of her superiors,
    Navaroli’s decision was overridden. A few days later, Twitter
    changed its content moderation policy to remove that phrase as an
    example of abusive language."

    Oh the horror. Ocasio-Cortez highlighted a Trump tweet from 2019
    demanding why she and several of her colleagues (members of the Squad
    and, at the time, all women of color) don’t “go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.”

    So where was Trump referring? Could he be talking about their
    districts? I don't know. You don't know.
    That's why the rule was against the phrase itself, to avoid having to mindread or evaluate the specifics of its use.
    I'm going to block your post until we get verification. I'm sure you don't want to be
    disinforming anyone and will understand my caution. Or will you?
    No, I don't understand what you're saying. In this case there was a rule against using a specific phrase. Trump used it, she recommended his post
    be rejected but her higher ups changed the rule rather than reject it
    or Trump to rephrase it.

    I agree with the result. If every phrase is banned that might insult someone, you'd have nothing to say.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Thu Feb 9 09:42:03 2023
    On 2/8/23 9:31 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 3:24:49 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:

    In this case there was a rule against using a specific phrase.
    Trump used it, she recommended his post be rejected but her higher
    ups changed the rule rather than reject it or Trump to rephrase
    it.

    I agree with the result. If every phrase is banned that might insult
    someone, you'd have nothing to say.

    Excluded middle. Specific phrases were banned, not "every phrase." The
    rules were changed for Trump's benefit.

    The Trump request (the Tiegen) was made during his presidency, unlike
    the Biden requests.

    Just to be clear, there are two different scenarios in question: Biden's campaign acting on his behalf to request a Terms of Service review of nonconsensual nude images posted without permission; and twitter's
    one-day freeze of the NY Post laptop story.

    Casting the net wider, pestering twitter to take down or put back up
    content was constant and done by both sides, including by the Trump
    White House.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 9 08:09:43 2023
    On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 7:42:11 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 2/8/23 9:31 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 3:24:49 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:

    In this case there was a rule against using a specific phrase.
    Trump used it, she recommended his post be rejected but her higher
    ups changed the rule rather than reject it or Trump to rephrase
    it.

    I agree with the result. If every phrase is banned that might insult someone, you'd have nothing to say.
    Excluded middle.

    That's banned.

    Specific phrases were banned, not "every phrase."

    Out of context....that's banned too.

    The
    rules were changed for Trump's benefit.

    The Trump request (the Tiegen) was made during his presidency, unlike
    the Biden requests.

    Just to be clear, there are two different scenarios in question: Biden's campaign acting on his behalf to request a Terms of Service review of nonconsensual nude images posted without permission;

    Campaign finance should be looking into misappropriation of campaign funds. Unless they had pic's of Joe out there? Are there?
    I wouldn't be surprised.

    and twitter's
    one-day freeze of the NY Post laptop story.

    Casting the net wider, pestering twitter to take down or put back up
    content was constant and done by both sides, including by the Trump
    White House.

    But not to the same degree. In any case twitter should have told them all to F' off.
    Like I tell you when you try to control my speech.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Thu Feb 9 10:34:44 2023
    On 2/9/23 10:09 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 7:42:11 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 2/8/23 9:31 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 3:24:49 PM UTC-8, MINe109
    wrote:

    In this case there was a rule against using a specific phrase.
    Trump used it, she recommended his post be rejected but her
    higher ups changed the rule rather than reject it or Trump to
    rephrase it.

    I agree with the result. If every phrase is banned that might
    insult someone, you'd have nothing to say.
    Excluded middle.

    That's banned.

    Arny wore it out.

    Specific phrases were banned, not "every phrase."

    Out of context....that's banned too.

    It's in context, which was discussion of banned phrases.

    Reductio ad absurdum.

    The rules were changed for Trump's benefit.

    The Trump request (the Tiegen) was made during his presidency,
    unlike the Biden requests.

    Just to be clear, there are two different scenarios in question:
    Biden's campaign acting on his behalf to request a Terms of
    Service review of nonconsensual nude images posted without
    permission;

    Campaign finance should be looking into misappropriation of campaign
    funds. Unless they had pic's of Joe out there? Are there? I
    wouldn't be surprised.

    Where'd 'finance' come from? Campaigns operate on behalf of their
    candidates and as you'll remember, anyone can fill out the twitter
    complaint form.

    and twitter's one-day freeze of the NY Post laptop story.

    Casting the net wider, pestering twitter to take down or put back
    up content was constant and done by both sides, including by the
    Trump White House.

    But not to the same degree.

    Yes, it's worse when it comes from the Trump White House than from
    campaign workers operating as private citizens.

    In any case twitter should have told them all to F' off. Like I tell
    you when you try to control my speech.

    Twitter usually did. And I don't "try to control" your speech, I give
    you my opinion of it.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 9 08:41:56 2023
    On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 8:34:46 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 2/9/23 10:09 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 7:42:11 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
    On 2/8/23 9:31 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 3:24:49 PM UTC-8, MINe109
    wrote:

    In this case there was a rule against using a specific phrase.
    Trump used it, she recommended his post be rejected but her
    higher ups changed the rule rather than reject it or Trump to
    rephrase it.

    I agree with the result. If every phrase is banned that might
    insult someone, you'd have nothing to say.
    Excluded middle.

    That's banned.
    Arny wore it out.
    Specific phrases were banned, not "every phrase."

    Out of context....that's banned too.
    It's in context, which was discussion of banned phrases.

    Reductio ad absurdum.

    Excessive phrase use...that's banned.
    Your account is now suspended for at least 30 seconds and you have one strike.

    ScottW

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