• Hey Stephen, care to regurgitate that media philosophy BS

    From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 6 17:13:54 2023
    after seeing this?

    https://twitter.com/jkbjournalist/status/1644050061746388999
    julie k. brown
    @jkbjournalist
    BREAKING: 13-year-old son of Rebekah Jones, whistleblower who clashed with DeSantis, arrested over memes
    miamiherald.com
    Son of Rebekah Jones, Florida whistleblower, arrested in probe of threatening Internet posts
    Deputies in Santa Rosa County in Florida’s Panhandle arrested the son of health department whistleblower Rebekah Jones after threatening social

    then this one from Mama Jones

    https://twitter.com/GeoRebekah/status/1643776088391446528

    Rebekah Jones
    @GeoRebekah
    My family is not safe. My son has been taken on the gov's orders, and I've had to send my husband and daughter out of state for their safety.

    THIS is the reality of living in DeSantis' Florida.

    There is no freedom here. Only retaliatory rule by a fascist who wishes to be king

    But the truth does eventually prevail...no thanks to the leftwing media

    https://twitter.com/ashtonpittman/status/1644089881956696066
    Before y'all rush to assume this is just DeSantis persecuting Rebekah Jones' family, please note that the alleged memes in question included threats to "shoot up the school" and "kill the losers at school."
    https://pnj.com/story/news/crime/2023/04/06/rebekah-jones-son-arrested-in-florida-what-we-know-about-digital-threat-allegations/70088634007/

    and the final nail in R. Jones cryfest...

    https://twitter.com/MaxNordau/status/1644091588954533888

    It's mama taking her dear little boy to the cops and turning him in.

    And after all this....the Miami herald "journo" says.
    julie k. brown
    @jkbjournalist
    ·
    1h
    Replying to
    @CryssieGA
    Why would I delete a story is not only in the public domain but is all over the internet? It’s called news. You can disagree with it but it happened. Covering it up doesn’t erase reality.

    ScottW

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to ScottW on Thu Apr 6 19:28:06 2023
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 8:13:55 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
    after seeing this?

    https://twitter.com/jkbjournalist/status/1644050061746388999
    julie k. brown
    @jkbjournalist
    BREAKING: 13-year-old son of Rebekah Jones, whistleblower who clashed with DeSantis, arrested over memes
    miamiherald.com
    Son of Rebekah Jones, Florida whistleblower, arrested in probe of threatening Internet posts
    Deputies in Santa Rosa County in Florida’s Panhandle arrested the son of health department whistleblower Rebekah Jones after threatening social


    More detail on this:

    "13-year-old son of a controversial Florida whistle-blower was arrested this week on charges that he made “terrorist” threats on the internet to shoot up his former school. The son of Rebekah Jones — who lost her job after using her access to
    health department data to challenge Gov. Ron DeSantis’ COVID numbers early in the pandemic — was arrested Wednesday on charges he made “written [or] electronic threats” of a “mass shooting [or] terrorist act.” The threats reportedly were made
    during a series of conversations on Snapchat and Discord, an instant messaging social platform, beginning around Feb. 1. They were brought to the attention of law enforcement authorities by other teens in March."

    Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article274038075.html#storylink=cpy



    then this one from Mama Jones

    https://twitter.com/GeoRebekah/status/1643776088391446528

    Rebekah Jones
    @GeoRebekah
    My family is not safe. My son has been taken on the gov's orders, and I've had to send my husband and daughter out of state for their safety.

    THIS is the reality of living in DeSantis' Florida.

    There is no freedom here. Only retaliatory rule by a fascist who wishes to be king

    But the truth does eventually prevail...no thanks to the leftwing media

    https://twitter.com/ashtonpittman/status/1644089881956696066

    That Rebekah is a serial liar.
    HER SON THREATENED SCHOOL VIOLENCE
    He threatened to do a school shooting



    Before y'all rush to assume this is just DeSantis persecuting Rebekah Jones' family, please note that the alleged memes in question included threats to "shoot up the school" and "kill the losers at school."
    https://pnj.com/story/news/crime/2023/04/06/rebekah-jones-son-arrested-in-florida-what-we-know-about-digital-threat-allegations/70088634007/

    and the final nail in R. Jones cryfest...

    https://twitter.com/MaxNordau/status/1644091588954533888

    It's mama taking her dear little boy to the cops and turning him in.

    And after all this....the Miami herald "journo" says.
    julie k. brown
    @jkbjournalist
    ·
    1h
    Replying to
    @CryssieGA
    Why would I delete a story is not only in the public domain but is all over the internet? It’s called news. You can disagree with it but it happened. Covering it up doesn’t erase reality.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Apr 7 09:55:46 2023
    On 4/6/23 7:13 PM, ScottW wrote:
    after seeing this?

    <eye candy snipped>

    If those are accurately reported facts, then, yes, the newspaper stories reflect a fact-based media.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/13-year-old-son-of-rebekah-jones-whistleblower-who-clashed-with-gov-desantis-is-arrested-over-memes/ar-AA19yQfu

    This story covers the elements of the Twitter exchanges and cites facts.

    Accurately quoting the mother calling the detention of her son a
    "kidnapping" on Twitter isn't contradicted if she brought him to law enforcement. She said it. She did it. Both can be true.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 7 15:24:12 2023
    On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 7:55:51 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/6/23 7:13 PM, ScottW wrote:
    after seeing this?
    <eye candy snipped>

    If those are accurately reported facts, then, yes, the newspaper stories reflect a fact-based media.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/13-year-old-son-of-rebekah-jones-whistleblower-who-clashed-with-gov-desantis-is-arrested-over-memes/ar-AA19yQfu

    This story covers the elements of the Twitter exchanges and cites facts.

    Accurately quoting the mother calling the detention of her son a "kidnapping" on Twitter isn't contradicted if she brought him to law enforcement. She said it. She did it. Both can be true.

    Stephen says...and even believes....but it's all BS.
    And all 3 can be true.

    ScottW

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 7 17:39:15 2023
    On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 10:55:51 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/6/23 7:13 PM, ScottW wrote:
    after seeing this?
    <eye candy snipped>

    If those are accurately reported facts, then, yes, the newspaper stories reflect a fact-based media.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/13-year-old-son-of-rebekah-jones-whistleblower-who-clashed-with-gov-desantis-is-arrested-over-memes/ar-AA19yQfu

    This story covers the elements of the Twitter exchanges and cites facts.

    Accurately quoting the mother calling the detention of her son a "kidnapping" on Twitter isn't contradicted if she brought him to law enforcement. She said it. She did it. Both can be true.

    Absolutely true. I once brought my own child to his kidnappers.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Fri Apr 7 19:07:20 2023
    On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 5:39:17 PM UTC-7, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 10:55:51 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/6/23 7:13 PM, ScottW wrote:
    after seeing this?
    <eye candy snipped>

    If those are accurately reported facts, then, yes, the newspaper stories reflect a fact-based media.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/13-year-old-son-of-rebekah-jones-whistleblower-who-clashed-with-gov-desantis-is-arrested-over-memes/ar-AA19yQfu

    This story covers the elements of the Twitter exchanges and cites facts.

    Accurately quoting the mother calling the detention of her son a "kidnapping" on Twitter isn't contradicted if she brought him to law enforcement. She said it. She did it. Both can be true.
    Absolutely true. I once brought my own child to his kidnappers.

    And paid them off to keep him against his will. They were called babysitters.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Sat Apr 8 09:59:53 2023
    On 4/7/23 7:39 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 10:55:51 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/6/23 7:13 PM, ScottW wrote:
    after seeing this?
    <eye candy snipped>

    If those are accurately reported facts, then, yes, the newspaper stories
    reflect a fact-based media.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/13-year-old-son-of-rebekah-jones-whistleblower-who-clashed-with-gov-desantis-is-arrested-over-memes/ar-AA19yQfu

    This story covers the elements of the Twitter exchanges and cites facts.

    Accurately quoting the mother calling the detention of her son a
    "kidnapping" on Twitter isn't contradicted if she brought him to law
    enforcement. She said it. She did it. Both can be true.

    Absolutely true. I once brought my own child to his kidnappers.

    I'm sure you found that much more convenient.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/jg5q7k/rebekah-jones-viral-claims-about-her-sons-arrest-by-fascist-desantis-dont-match-available-evidence

    "This appears, though, to be a misreading of the unredacted police
    report by Jones and by the Herald, and also a misunderstanding of how
    Snapchat works."

    Looks like computer literacy is lacking in Florida. Here's the
    conclusion from the biased and not based on fact internet outlet:

    "While these events are traumatizing for the family and for students of
    the middle school, there is currently no evidence to suggest that the
    arrest of Jones's son is part of a broader vendetta against her by the
    DeSantis administration. Jones's son is due in court on May 3."

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Apr 8 09:59:15 2023
    On 4/7/23 5:24 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 7:55:51 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/6/23 7:13 PM, ScottW wrote:
    after seeing this?
    <eye candy snipped>

    If those are accurately reported facts, then, yes, the newspaper stories
    reflect a fact-based media.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/13-year-old-son-of-rebekah-jones-whistleblower-who-clashed-with-gov-desantis-is-arrested-over-memes/ar-AA19yQfu

    This story covers the elements of the Twitter exchanges and cites facts.

    Accurately quoting the mother calling the detention of her son a
    "kidnapping" on Twitter isn't contradicted if she brought him to law
    enforcement. She said it. She did it. Both can be true.

    Stephen says...and even believes....but it's all BS.
    And all 3 can be true.

    Since then I've seen several mainstream stories and a major online
    magazine piece that include reporting the problems with Jones' story and
    her history that would lead a reasonable person to question her
    credibility.

    You seem to think that it's a contradiction that major media are truth/reliability/objectivity based while an individual lies in public.

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 9 00:11:06 2023
    On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 10:59:55 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/7/23 7:39 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 10:55:51 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/6/23 7:13 PM, ScottW wrote:
    after seeing this?
    <eye candy snipped>

    If those are accurately reported facts, then, yes, the newspaper stories >> reflect a fact-based media.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/13-year-old-son-of-rebekah-jones-whistleblower-who-clashed-with-gov-desantis-is-arrested-over-memes/ar-AA19yQfu

    This story covers the elements of the Twitter exchanges and cites facts. >>
    Accurately quoting the mother calling the detention of her son a
    "kidnapping" on Twitter isn't contradicted if she brought him to law
    enforcement. She said it. She did it. Both can be true.

    Absolutely true. I once brought my own child to his kidnappers.
    I'm sure you found that much more convenient.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/jg5q7k/rebekah-jones-viral-claims-about-her-sons-arrest-by-fascist-desantis-dont-match-available-evidence

    "This appears, though, to be a misreading of the unredacted police
    report by Jones and by the Herald, and also a misunderstanding of how Snapchat works."

    Looks like computer literacy is lacking in Florida. Here's the
    conclusion from the biased and not based on fact internet outlet:

    "While these events are traumatizing for the family and for students of
    the middle school, there is currently no evidence to suggest that the
    arrest of Jones's son is part of a broader vendetta against her by the DeSantis administration. Jones's son is due in court on May 3."

    That's a reasonable fallback position, that Jone's son is the threat to the school, not Rebekah

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Sun Apr 9 12:20:06 2023
    On 4/9/23 2:11 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 10:59:55 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/7/23 7:39 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 10:55:51 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/6/23 7:13 PM, ScottW wrote:
    after seeing this?
    <eye candy snipped>

    If those are accurately reported facts, then, yes, the newspaper stories >>>> reflect a fact-based media.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/13-year-old-son-of-rebekah-jones-whistleblower-who-clashed-with-gov-desantis-is-arrested-over-memes/ar-AA19yQfu

    This story covers the elements of the Twitter exchanges and cites facts. >>>>
    Accurately quoting the mother calling the detention of her son a
    "kidnapping" on Twitter isn't contradicted if she brought him to law
    enforcement. She said it. She did it. Both can be true.

    Absolutely true. I once brought my own child to his kidnappers.
    I'm sure you found that much more convenient.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/jg5q7k/rebekah-jones-viral-claims-about-her-sons-arrest-by-fascist-desantis-dont-match-available-evidence

    "This appears, though, to be a misreading of the unredacted police
    report by Jones and by the Herald, and also a misunderstanding of how
    Snapchat works."

    Looks like computer literacy is lacking in Florida. Here's the
    conclusion from the biased and not based on fact internet outlet:

    "While these events are traumatizing for the family and for students of
    the middle school, there is currently no evidence to suggest that the
    arrest of Jones's son is part of a broader vendetta against her by the
    DeSantis administration. Jones's son is due in court on May 3."

    That's a reasonable fallback position, that Jone's son is the threat to the school, not Rebekah

    She's definitely colored her story for her own benefit.

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