• Just wondering...

    From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 10 12:44:27 2023
    ... how easy or difficult it is for Shmoo scottw to wind himself up
    over so many little stories that have negligible impact
    on middle-class white assholes like himself.

    I understand that his motive has nothing to do with learning
    or broadening his understanding of anything. My best guess
    is that the Shmoo agenda is to irk MINE enough so he calls
    Shmoo scottw and Shmoo Sackdork a nasty name or two. That
    theory at least somewhat explains how resistant those two
    dimbulbs are to adding to their own comprehension.

    It's all about the bitching, isn't it?

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 10 17:42:25 2023
    ... why Super Shitty is afraid of the Gay Conversion Conspiracy.
    Who are these wizards? Why are they targeting Shitty? Is Shitty
    taking steps to protect himself from this dread infection?

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 1 21:00:02 2023
    I suspect that our two idiot Shmoos are not quite stupid enough
    to donate cash to Dumpster's grift machine. I've seen bits of
    interviews with die-hard Dumpy loyalists (thanks to Jordan Klepper,
    mostly), and they seem a lot more imbecilic than Super Shitty
    and Sack 'o Shit. They are just as dogmatic and thickheaded,
    but giving money to the most prolific scammer on earth takes
    a special degree of brain-deadness.

    But what I wouldn't put past Stinky and Sticky is eternal loyalty to
    a lost cause. Have you dweebs heard of Belief Perseverance,
    Confirmation Bias, or the Illusion of Explanatory Depth? The former
    two are pretty common. The Depth one is exemplified in the knuckle-
    draggers' hysterical swooning about the made-up problem of "wokeness".
    In short, our two sputum-heads will probably never, EVER concede
    that Dumpster is a liar, a criminal, a fascist, and an overall monster.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Fascist Flea on Wed Aug 2 06:11:53 2023
    On 8/1/23 11:00 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
    Illusion of Explanatory Depth

    The internet is built on this!

    It fits well with the ongoing Dunning-Kruger demonstration seen here.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 2 09:18:09 2023
    On 8/2/23 6:11 AM, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/1/23 11:00 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
    Illusion of Explanatory Depth

    The internet is built on this!

    It fits well with the ongoing Dunning-Kruger demonstration seen here.

    Or this:

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0010027723000550

    "The illusory truth effect leads to the spread of misinformation"

    Not to worry, Scott and Art, this only applies to Brits, who "were more
    likely to share statements they had previously been exposed to.
    Importantly, the relationship between repetition and sharing was
    mediated by perceived accuracy. That is, repetition of misinformation
    biased people's judgment of accuracy and as a result fuelled the spread
    of misinformation."

    Still, add in the recent NYT/Siena that broke down results by news
    source and finds Fox viewers in near unanimity of opinion.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4130635-91-percent-of-fox-news-viewers-dont-think-trump-committed-serious-crimes/

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 2 11:46:28 2023
    On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 10:18:15 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/2/23 6:11 AM, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/1/23 11:00 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
    Illusion of Explanatory Depth

    The internet is built on this!

    It fits well with the ongoing Dunning-Kruger demonstration seen here.
    Or this:

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0010027723000550

    "The illusory truth effect leads to the spread of misinformation"

    Not to worry, Scott and Art, this only applies to Brits, who "were more likely to share statements they had previously been exposed to.
    Importantly, the relationship between repetition and sharing was
    mediated by perceived accuracy. That is, repetition of misinformation
    biased people's judgment of accuracy and as a result fuelled the spread
    of misinformation."

    Still, add in the recent NYT/Siena that broke down results by news
    source and finds Fox viewers in near unanimity of opinion.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4130635-91-percent-of-fox-news-viewers-dont-think-trump-committed-serious-crimes/

    92% of CNN viewers don't think joe Biden received foreign money for influence peddling.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Wed Aug 2 14:43:16 2023
    On 8/2/23 1:46 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 10:18:15 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/2/23 6:11 AM, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/1/23 11:00 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
    Illusion of Explanatory Depth

    The internet is built on this!

    It fits well with the ongoing Dunning-Kruger demonstration seen here.
    Or this:

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0010027723000550

    "The illusory truth effect leads to the spread of misinformation"

    Not to worry, Scott and Art, this only applies to Brits, who "were more
    likely to share statements they had previously been exposed to.
    Importantly, the relationship between repetition and sharing was
    mediated by perceived accuracy. That is, repetition of misinformation
    biased people's judgment of accuracy and as a result fuelled the spread
    of misinformation."

    Still, add in the recent NYT/Siena that broke down results by news
    source and finds Fox viewers in near unanimity of opinion.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4130635-91-percent-of-fox-news-viewers-dont-think-trump-committed-serious-crimes/

    92% of CNN viewers don't think joe Biden received foreign money for influence peddling.

    Good example of siloed ideas Fox viewers believe.

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 2 15:01:55 2023
    mINE109 wrote:

    https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4130635-91-percent-of-fox-news-viewers-dont-think-trump-committed-serious-crimes/

    92% of CNN viewers don't think joe Biden received foreign money for influence peddling.
    Good example of siloed ideas Fox viewers believe.

    Confirmation bias doesn't really explain the stubbornness of Fucks droids.
    I've seen several mockumentary-style interviews in which Fucks-heads
    declared, in apparent sincerity, that they don't trust "librull" news sources. That foolishness is a big step beyond, into brainwashing IMO.

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 2 15:36:33 2023
    Good example of siloed ideas Fox viewers believe.

    Whatabout?
    Whatabout?

    Your head being buried up your ass.

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 2 15:37:36 2023
    On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 3:43:19 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/2/23 1:46 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 10:18:15 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/2/23 6:11 AM, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/1/23 11:00 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
    Illusion of Explanatory Depth

    The internet is built on this!

    It fits well with the ongoing Dunning-Kruger demonstration seen here.
    Or this:

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0010027723000550

    "The illusory truth effect leads to the spread of misinformation"

    Not to worry, Scott and Art, this only applies to Brits, who "were more >> likely to share statements they had previously been exposed to.
    Importantly, the relationship between repetition and sharing was
    mediated by perceived accuracy. That is, repetition of misinformation
    biased people's judgment of accuracy and as a result fuelled the spread >> of misinformation."

    Still, add in the recent NYT/Siena that broke down results by news
    source and finds Fox viewers in near unanimity of opinion.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4130635-91-percent-of-fox-news-viewers-dont-think-trump-committed-serious-crimes/

    92% of CNN viewers don't think joe Biden received foreign money for influence peddling.
    Good example of siloed ideas Fox viewers believe.

    Whatabout your head being buried up your ass?
    contrast and compare.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Fascist Flea on Wed Aug 2 17:50:24 2023
    On 8/2/23 5:01 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
    mINE109 wrote:

    https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4130635-91-percent-of-fox-news-viewers-dont-think-trump-committed-serious-crimes/

    92% of CNN viewers don't think joe Biden received foreign money for influence peddling.
    Good example of siloed ideas Fox viewers believe.

    Confirmation bias doesn't really explain the stubbornness of Fucks droids. I've seen several mockumentary-style interviews in which Fucks-heads declared, in apparent sincerity, that they don't trust "librull" news sources.
    That foolishness is a big step beyond, into brainwashing IMO.

    They only go to the one well and talk only to each other, then
    repetition bias does the rest.

    I agree there's a willfulness beyond the brainwashing.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Wed Aug 2 17:51:03 2023
    On 8/2/23 5:36 PM, Art Sackman wrote:

    Good example of siloed ideas Fox viewers believe.

    Whatabout?
    Whatabout?

    You brought it up. You're whatabouting your own whatabout.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Wed Aug 2 17:53:23 2023
    On 8/2/23 5:37 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 3:43:19 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:

    Good example of siloed ideas Fox viewers believe.

    Whatabout your head being buried up your ass?
    contrast and compare.

    Compare and contrast: what was so different about the wording of your
    reply that you needed to do it twice? You're not exactly workshopping
    your tight five here.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 2 17:59:57 2023
    On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 3:50:27 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/2/23 5:01 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
    mINE109 wrote:

    https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4130635-91-percent-of-fox-news-viewers-dont-think-trump-committed-serious-crimes/

    92% of CNN viewers don't think joe Biden received foreign money for influence peddling.
    Good example of siloed ideas Fox viewers believe.

    Confirmation bias doesn't really explain the stubbornness of Fucks droids. I've seen several mockumentary-style interviews in which Fucks-heads declared, in apparent sincerity, that they don't trust "librull" news sources.
    That foolishness is a big step beyond, into brainwashing IMO.
    They only go to the one well and talk only to each other, then
    repetition bias does the rest.

    I agree there's a willfulness beyond the brainwashing.

    I just want someone in China to wire me a million dollars.

    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Bank-Records-Memo-3.16.23.pdf

    ScottW

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to ScottW on Wed Aug 2 19:51:53 2023
    On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 8:59:58 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 3:50:27 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/2/23 5:01 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
    mINE109 wrote:

    https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4130635-91-percent-of-fox-news-viewers-dont-think-trump-committed-serious-crimes/

    92% of CNN viewers don't think joe Biden received foreign money for influence peddling.
    Good example of siloed ideas Fox viewers believe.

    Confirmation bias doesn't really explain the stubbornness of Fucks droids.
    I've seen several mockumentary-style interviews in which Fucks-heads declared, in apparent sincerity, that they don't trust "librull" news sources.
    That foolishness is a big step beyond, into brainwashing IMO.
    They only go to the one well and talk only to each other, then
    repetition bias does the rest.

    I agree there's a willfulness beyond the brainwashing.
    I just want someone in China to wire me a million dollars.
    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Bank-Records-Memo-3.16.23.pdf

    ScottW

    You need to first establish eleven shell companies.
    Having a derelict adult son will also help.

    If I were you, I would just order carryout to satisfy your Chinese craving.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Thu Aug 3 08:39:00 2023
    On 8/2/23 7:59 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 3:50:27 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/2/23 5:01 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
    mINE109 wrote:

    https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4130635-91-percent-of-fox-news-viewers-dont-think-trump-committed-serious-crimes/

    92% of CNN viewers don't think joe Biden received foreign money for influence peddling.
    Good example of siloed ideas Fox viewers believe.

    Confirmation bias doesn't really explain the stubbornness of Fucks droids. >>> I've seen several mockumentary-style interviews in which Fucks-heads
    declared, in apparent sincerity, that they don't trust "librull" news sources.
    That foolishness is a big step beyond, into brainwashing IMO.
    They only go to the one well and talk only to each other, then
    repetition bias does the rest.

    I agree there's a willfulness beyond the brainwashing.

    I just want someone in China to wire me a million dollars.

    Use your famous name to start a joint venture with a Chinese energy company.

    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Bank-Records-Memo-3.16.23.pdf

    Memo line: Billy Beer.

    Context: https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/16/politics/house-gop-memo-biden-family/index.html

    Washington sleazy family business, but no connection to Joe and it
    didn't really pay off for China:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/26/china-trade-tech-00072232

    "SPECIAL REPORT

    ‘A sea change’: Biden reverses decades of Chinese trade policy
    Forget tariffs. Biden’s actions to crack down on Beijing’s tech
    development will do more to hinder the Chinese economy — and divide the
    two nations — than Trump ever did."

    I hope this doesn't affect the availability of <$100 amps on Amazon.

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 3 09:49:34 2023
    On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 9:39:03 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:

    Memo line: Billy Beer.



    "At leased" he made something instead
    of selling influence and being a political fixer.

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 3 11:17:27 2023
    Is this the beginning of a sea change in Shmooville?

    "At leased" he made something instead
    of selling influence

    You're actually criticizing Dumpster OUT LOUD? My god, the sky may be falling.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Fascist Flea on Thu Aug 3 14:47:09 2023
    On 8/3/23 1:17 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
    Is this the beginning of a sea change in Shmooville?

    "At leased" he made something instead
    of selling influence

    You're actually criticizing Dumpster OUT LOUD? My god, the sky may be falling.

    Back in the real world, the Devon Archer transcript has been released.

    Nothing new.

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 3 12:56:55 2023
    mINE109 wrote:

    You're actually criticizing Dumpster OUT LOUD? My god, the sky may be falling.
    Back in the real world, the Devon Archer transcript has been released.

    You think Sackplop was tripping when he accused Dumpster? Possible, I guess.

    Meanwhile, even though Archer's chit-chat has nothing inculpatory regarding either Hunter or the Prez, the MAGA faithful still believe there's a scandal to uncover.
    That's the nature of faith - it persists even in the absolute absence of evidence.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Fascist Flea on Thu Aug 3 15:07:29 2023
    On 8/3/23 2:56 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
    mINE109 wrote:

    You're actually criticizing Dumpster OUT LOUD? My god, the sky may be falling.
    Back in the real world, the Devon Archer transcript has been released.

    You think Sackplop was tripping when he accused Dumpster? Possible, I guess.

    Meanwhile, even though Archer's chit-chat has nothing inculpatory regarding either Hunter or the Prez, the MAGA faithful still believe there's a scandal to uncover.
    That's the nature of faith - it persists even in the absolute absence of evidence.

    The local morning news of the third indictment was illustrative:
    Sinclair's first expert shown was Dershowitz! who recited the ridiculous defense that speech can't be crime because 1st amendment.

    At this rate, he'll never get invited back to Martha's Vineyard.

    Maybe I'll watch the network arraignment watch with the sound off.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 3 13:14:29 2023
    On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:07:32 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/3/23 2:56 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
    mINE109 wrote:

    You're actually criticizing Dumpster OUT LOUD? My god, the sky may be falling.
    Back in the real world, the Devon Archer transcript has been released.

    You think Sackplop was tripping when he accused Dumpster? Possible, I guess.

    Meanwhile, even though Archer's chit-chat has nothing inculpatory regarding
    either Hunter or the Prez, the MAGA faithful still believe there's a scandal to uncover.
    That's the nature of faith - it persists even in the absolute absence of evidence.
    The local morning news of the third indictment was illustrative:
    Sinclair's first expert shown was Dershowitz! who recited the ridiculous defense that speech can't be crime because 1st amendment.

    At this rate, he'll never get invited back to Martha's Vineyard.

    Maybe I'll watch the network arraignment watch with the sound off.

    How can speech be a crime (unless it is incitement to violence, which is no being charged)
    even then, maybe not
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Seven
    It seems you are not much of a free speech guy.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Thu Aug 3 15:25:22 2023
    On 8/3/23 3:14 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:07:32 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:

    Sinclair's first expert shown was Dershowitz! who recited the ridiculous
    defense that speech can't be crime because 1st amendment.

    How can speech be a crime (unless it is incitement to violence, which is no being charged)
    even then, maybe not

    I suppose one could conspire by mime, but I wouldn't want to see Trump
    doing it.

    It seems you are not much of a free speech guy.

    Free speech = 1st Amendment? I believe you have changed the subject.

    The other defense bruited about is that Trump is literally deranged.

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 3 13:58:59 2023
    On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:25:26 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/3/23 3:14 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:07:32 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:

    Sinclair's first expert shown was Dershowitz! who recited the ridiculous >> defense that speech can't be crime because 1st amendment.
    How can speech be a crime (unless it is incitement to violence, which is no being charged)
    even then, maybe not
    I suppose one could conspire by mime, but I wouldn't want to see Trump
    doing it.
    It seems you are not much of a free speech guy.
    Free speech = 1st Amendment? I believe you have changed the subject.

    The other defense bruited about is that Trump is literally deranged.

    Better deranged than demented.

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 3 14:22:56 2023
    Sackdorkess, Queen of Irony, tries juggling a soft tomato and a marshmallow.

    The other defense bruited about is that Trump is literally deranged.
    Better deranged than demented.

    False choice. Dumpster is clearly both. Do you care to read the whole list?

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 3 14:21:09 2023
    mINE109 wrote:

    The other defense bruited about is that Trump is literally deranged.

    Dumpy would sooner eat his children than plead non compos mentis.

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