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    From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 19 15:10:30 2023
    What’s going on here at this point is very similar to what we saw in 2016, but with a twist. Though there’s no grand conspiracy at play here, the media wants Trump to win the nomination because they again believe he’s unelectable in the general.
    But instead of demonizing him as per the norm, they’re portraying him as this savvy, astute politico who is outfoxing DeSantis every chance he gets, with the insinuation being that voters should begrudgingly respect his approach.

    While reasonable people can agree or disagree with that assessment, the point to be made here is that they’re playing favorites now not because they like Trump but because they need him to win the nomination, and not just because they view him as
    unelectable, but because they’d love nothing more than to make the 2024 general election all about Trump and doom and gloom him just like they did in the general in 2016 (and 2020).

    Nothing would be better for the Morning Joes of America and their standing among the cocktail circuit elite than to have Trump in the limelight for as long as possible, as that would give these people more opportunities to pretend, as they did for four
    years, that they have the moral high ground when it comes to all things Trump.

    As was confirmed by the media/Dem-driven 2016 Trump/Russia collusion nonsense, they most certainly do not have any high ground. They are simply playing people here, and hoping they take the bait.

    Regardless of where one stands now on the Trump/DeSantis debate, my advice to Republican voters and independent voters who tend to vote for Republicans is to simply ignore the mainstream press and talking heads to the extent they can and make judgments
    about candidates based on not just listening to them but researching their records and seeing what their accomplishments are. Because there are few things the media loves more than trying to manipulate the minds of impressionable voters ahead of
    elections.

    I wonder if that lil gem rocks Stephen's naive media view?....Nah. No way.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Wed Apr 19 18:51:00 2023
    On 4/19/23 5:10 PM, ScottW wrote:
    I wonder if that lil gem rocks Stephen's naive media view?....Nah. No way.

    That's pretty much unreadable. I'll give it another look to see wth your
    source is talking about...

    The media's kid-gloves treatment of Trump, favoring his entertainment
    value and horse-race coverage style of politics?

    Old news, including points I've made myself.

    Oh, big exception for 'setting up Trump to fail' which is just
    justification for a future loss. Not going to relitigate 'collusion' etc.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 19 19:25:30 2023
    On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 4:51:03 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/19/23 5:10 PM, ScottW wrote:
    I wonder if that lil gem rocks Stephen's naive media view?....Nah. No way.
    That's pretty much unreadable. I'll give it another look to see wth your source is talking about...

    It's about media motive to push Trump over DeSantis.
    Not complicated.

    ScottW

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 19 22:15:41 2023
    On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 7:51:03 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/19/23 5:10 PM, ScottW wrote:
    I wonder if that lil gem rocks Stephen's naive media view?....Nah. No way.
    That's pretty much unreadable. I'll give it another look to see wth your source is talking about...

    The media's kid-gloves treatment of Trump, favoring his entertainment
    value and horse-race coverage style of politics?

    Old news, including points I've made myself.

    Oh, big exception for 'setting up Trump to fail' which is just
    justification for a future loss. Not going to relitigate 'collusion' etc.

    Have you been peeking at Karl Rove's whiteboard?

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Thu Apr 20 08:50:28 2023
    On 4/19/23 9:25 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 4:51:03 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/19/23 5:10 PM, ScottW wrote:
    I wonder if that lil gem rocks Stephen's naive media view?....Nah. No way. >> That's pretty much unreadable. I'll give it another look to see wth your
    source is talking about...

    It's about media motive to push Trump over DeSantis.
    Not complicated.

    If so, this excerpt is terribly unfocused. Both presumptive candidate
    are getting the horse race treatment, which includes softening their
    extreme positions and writing humanizing "beat sweeteners" emphasizing personality over positions.

    The biggest departure from reality IMO is not emphasizing how huge is
    Trump's lead in support among Republicans.

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 20 08:02:59 2023
    On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 9:50:30 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/19/23 9:25 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 4:51:03 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/19/23 5:10 PM, ScottW wrote:
    I wonder if that lil gem rocks Stephen's naive media view?....Nah. No way.
    That's pretty much unreadable. I'll give it another look to see wth your >> source is talking about...

    It's about media motive to push Trump over DeSantis.
    Not complicated.
    If so, this excerpt is terribly unfocused. Both presumptive candidate
    are getting the horse race treatment, which includes softening their
    extreme positions and writing humanizing "beat sweeteners" emphasizing personality over positions.

    The biggest departure from reality IMO is not emphasizing how huge is Trump's lead in support among Republicans.

    The Dems MSM puppets are trying that with Katie Porter, but no amount
    of lipstick can hide that pig.

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 20 08:30:40 2023
    Sack o' Shmoo offers us a peek into the maelstrom of delusions
    that fuels his craving for conspiracies.

    The biggest departure from reality IMO is not emphasizing how huge is Trump's lead in support among Republicans.
    The Dems MSM puppets

    Isn't it exhausting, all that exertion to keep pumping up those
    scary monsters? "MSM puppets" is the tail end of that demento
    right-wing nuttiness spearheaded by Joseph McCarthy. Do you
    have to re-start your paranoia engine every day? When was the
    last time you took a deep breath and tried to remember that what
    you and your puppetmasters call MSM is actually just plain reality?

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 20 08:46:42 2023
    On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 6:50:30 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/19/23 9:25 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 4:51:03 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/19/23 5:10 PM, ScottW wrote:
    I wonder if that lil gem rocks Stephen's naive media view?....Nah. No way.
    That's pretty much unreadable. I'll give it another look to see wth your >> source is talking about...

    It's about media motive to push Trump over DeSantis.
    Not complicated.
    If so, this excerpt is terribly unfocused. Both presumptive candidate
    are getting the horse race treatment, which includes softening their
    extreme positions and writing humanizing "beat sweeteners" emphasizing personality over positions.

    The biggest departure from reality IMO is not emphasizing how huge is Trump's lead in support among Republicans.

    Open your eyes and ears. I see that everyday.
    I also see Biden's lack of support among everybody.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Thu Apr 20 11:33:52 2023
    On 4/20/23 10:46 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 6:50:30 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/19/23 9:25 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 4:51:03 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/19/23 5:10 PM, ScottW wrote:
    I wonder if that lil gem rocks Stephen's naive media view?....Nah. No way.
    That's pretty much unreadable. I'll give it another look to see wth your >>>> source is talking about...

    It's about media motive to push Trump over DeSantis.
    Not complicated.
    If so, this excerpt is terribly unfocused. Both presumptive candidate
    are getting the horse race treatment, which includes softening their
    extreme positions and writing humanizing "beat sweeteners" emphasizing
    personality over positions.

    The biggest departure from reality IMO is not emphasizing how huge is
    Trump's lead in support among Republicans.

    Open your eyes and ears. I see that everyday.

    I see you arguing both sides and going off topic the instant I agree
    with something you post. I was referring to your cite, not what you see everyday.

    I also see Biden's lack of support among everybody.

    Is that in a different part of the quote?

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 20 15:26:40 2023
    On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 9:33:55 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/20/23 10:46 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 6:50:30 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/19/23 9:25 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 4:51:03 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/19/23 5:10 PM, ScottW wrote:
    I wonder if that lil gem rocks Stephen's naive media view?....Nah. No way.
    That's pretty much unreadable. I'll give it another look to see wth your
    source is talking about...

    It's about media motive to push Trump over DeSantis.
    Not complicated.
    If so, this excerpt is terribly unfocused. Both presumptive candidate
    are getting the horse race treatment, which includes softening their
    extreme positions and writing humanizing "beat sweeteners" emphasizing
    personality over positions.

    The biggest departure from reality IMO is not emphasizing how huge is
    Trump's lead in support among Republicans.

    Open your eyes and ears. I see that everyday.
    I see you arguing both sides and going off topic the instant I agree
    with something you post. I was referring to your cite, not what you see everyday.

    I also see Biden's lack of support among everybody.
    Is that in a different part of the quote?

    How about this quote, "All Biden has to run on is racism."

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Apr 21 09:39:44 2023
    On 4/20/23 5:26 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 9:33:55 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/20/23 10:46 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 6:50:30 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/19/23 9:25 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 4:51:03 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/19/23 5:10 PM, ScottW wrote:
    I wonder if that lil gem rocks Stephen's naive media view?....Nah. No way.
    That's pretty much unreadable. I'll give it another look to see wth your >>>>>> source is talking about...

    It's about media motive to push Trump over DeSantis.
    Not complicated.
    If so, this excerpt is terribly unfocused. Both presumptive candidate
    are getting the horse race treatment, which includes softening their
    extreme positions and writing humanizing "beat sweeteners" emphasizing >>>> personality over positions.

    The biggest departure from reality IMO is not emphasizing how huge is
    Trump's lead in support among Republicans.

    Open your eyes and ears. I see that everyday.
    I see you arguing both sides and going off topic the instant I agree
    with something you post. I was referring to your cite, not what you see
    everyday.

    I also see Biden's lack of support among everybody.
    Is that in a different part of the quote?

    How about this quote, "All Biden has to run on is racism."

    A deflection from your topic since it's not in your cite. If I were to
    choose only one thing for Biden to run on, it's his proven ability to
    beat Trump.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 21 09:13:36 2023
    On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 7:39:46 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/20/23 5:26 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 9:33:55 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/20/23 10:46 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 6:50:30 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/19/23 9:25 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 4:51:03 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>> On 4/19/23 5:10 PM, ScottW wrote:
    I wonder if that lil gem rocks Stephen's naive media view?....Nah. No way.
    That's pretty much unreadable. I'll give it another look to see wth your
    source is talking about...

    It's about media motive to push Trump over DeSantis.
    Not complicated.
    If so, this excerpt is terribly unfocused. Both presumptive candidate >>>> are getting the horse race treatment, which includes softening their >>>> extreme positions and writing humanizing "beat sweeteners" emphasizing >>>> personality over positions.

    The biggest departure from reality IMO is not emphasizing how huge is >>>> Trump's lead in support among Republicans.

    Open your eyes and ears. I see that everyday.
    I see you arguing both sides and going off topic the instant I agree
    with something you post. I was referring to your cite, not what you see >> everyday.

    I also see Biden's lack of support among everybody.
    Is that in a different part of the quote?

    How about this quote, "All Biden has to run on is racism."
    A deflection from your topic since it's not in your cite. If I were to choose only one thing for Biden to run on, it's his proven ability to
    beat Trump.

    So you ignore policy completely. Figures.
    You are a brainwashed moron.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Apr 21 13:16:19 2023
    On 4/21/23 11:13 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 7:39:46 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/20/23 5:26 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 9:33:55 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/20/23 10:46 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 6:50:30 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/19/23 9:25 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 4:51:03 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 4/19/23 5:10 PM, ScottW wrote:
    I wonder if that lil gem rocks Stephen's naive media view?....Nah. No way.
    That's pretty much unreadable. I'll give it another look to see wth your
    source is talking about...

    It's about media motive to push Trump over DeSantis.
    Not complicated.
    If so, this excerpt is terribly unfocused. Both presumptive candidate >>>>>> are getting the horse race treatment, which includes softening their >>>>>> extreme positions and writing humanizing "beat sweeteners" emphasizing >>>>>> personality over positions.

    The biggest departure from reality IMO is not emphasizing how huge is >>>>>> Trump's lead in support among Republicans.

    Open your eyes and ears. I see that everyday.
    I see you arguing both sides and going off topic the instant I agree
    with something you post. I was referring to your cite, not what you see >>>> everyday.

    I also see Biden's lack of support among everybody.
    Is that in a different part of the quote?

    How about this quote, "All Biden has to run on is racism."
    A deflection from your topic since it's not in your cite. If I were to
    choose only one thing for Biden to run on, it's his proven ability to
    beat Trump.

    So you ignore policy completely. Figures.

    'Policy' is the word of the day, I see. Policy could be part of a second
    or third thing for Biden to run on for all you know.

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 21 13:58:27 2023
    mINE109 wrote:

    So you ignore policy completely. Figures.
    'Policy' is the word of the day, I see. Policy could be part of a second
    or third thing for Biden to run on for all you know.

    Republigoons do have some fave policies. Here's an example:

    https://www.gocomics.com/clayjones/2023/03/29

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 21 14:15:49 2023
    On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 11:16:21 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/21/23 11:13 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 7:39:46 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/20/23 5:26 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 9:33:55 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/20/23 10:46 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 6:50:30 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>> On 4/19/23 9:25 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 4:51:03 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 4/19/23 5:10 PM, ScottW wrote:
    I wonder if that lil gem rocks Stephen's naive media view?....Nah. No way.
    That's pretty much unreadable. I'll give it another look to see wth your
    source is talking about...

    It's about media motive to push Trump over DeSantis.
    Not complicated.
    If so, this excerpt is terribly unfocused. Both presumptive candidate >>>>>> are getting the horse race treatment, which includes softening their >>>>>> extreme positions and writing humanizing "beat sweeteners" emphasizing
    personality over positions.

    The biggest departure from reality IMO is not emphasizing how huge is >>>>>> Trump's lead in support among Republicans.

    Open your eyes and ears. I see that everyday.
    I see you arguing both sides and going off topic the instant I agree >>>> with something you post. I was referring to your cite, not what you see >>>> everyday.

    I also see Biden's lack of support among everybody.
    Is that in a different part of the quote?

    How about this quote, "All Biden has to run on is racism."
    A deflection from your topic since it's not in your cite. If I were to
    choose only one thing for Biden to run on, it's his proven ability to
    beat Trump.

    So you ignore policy completely. Figures.
    'Policy' is the word of the day, I see. Policy could be part of a second
    or third thing for Biden to run on for all you know.

    Could be....but when his policy is to castrate minors without parental consent one has to wonder if he will.

    ScottW

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