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  • They're sick and need real treatment

    From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 20 16:50:08 2023
    Systematic reviews of evidence conducted by public health authorities in Finland, Sweden, and England concluded that the risk/benefit ratio of youth gender transition ranges from unknown to unfavorable. As a result, there has been a shift from “gender-
    affirmative care,” which prioritizes access to medical interventions, to a more conservative approach that addresses psychiatric comorbidities and psychotherapeutically explores the developmental etiology of the trans identity. Debate about the safety
    and efficacy of “gender-affirming care” in the USA is only recently emerging.

    The conclusions of the systematic reviews of evidence for adolescents are consistent with long-term adult studies, which failed to show credible improvements in mental health and suggested a pattern of treatment-associated harms. Three recent papers
    examined the studies that underpin the practice of youth gender transition and found the research to be deeply flawed. Evidence does not support the notion that “affirmative care” of today’s adolescents is net beneficial. Questions about how to
    best care for the rapidly growing numbers of gender-dysphoric youth generated an intensity of divisiveness within and outside of medicine rarely seen with other clinical uncertainties. Because the future well-being of young patients and their families is
    at stake, the field must stop relying on social justice arguments and return to the time-honored principles of evidence-based medicine.

    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11930-023-00358-x

    I would suggest the medical industry likes the money of forever gender-affirming care. And that is truly sick.

    ScottW

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 21 05:19:30 2023

    I would suggest the medical industry likes the money of forever gender-affirming care. And that is truly sick.

    ScottW

    How many times can you chop off a dick or a pair of tits?

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Apr 21 09:59:00 2023
    On 4/20/23 6:50 PM, ScottW wrote:
    Systematic reviews of evidence conducted by public health authorities in Finland, Sweden, and England concluded that the risk/benefit ratio of youth gender transition ranges from unknown to unfavorable.
    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11930-023-00358-x

    https://genderanalysis.net/2022/06/dr-stephen-levine-and-the-plot-to-police-americas-gender-part-1/

    "In case after case, an anti-trans expert witness promotes the same
    baseless theory: permitting social transition for trans youth will
    prevent them from later adopting a cisgender identity. But his own
    sources reveal how implausible that is."

    Congrats. You've found the anti-trans equivalent of voting fraud's
    Spakovsky.

    I would suggest the medical industry likes the money of forever gender-affirming care. And that is truly sick.

    Your cites go against the credible studies I've cited in the past. And
    I'm sure there's lots more money in the anti-trans political grift.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 21 09:04:14 2023
    On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 7:59:08 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/20/23 6:50 PM, ScottW wrote:
    Systematic reviews of evidence conducted by public health authorities in Finland, Sweden, and England concluded that the risk/benefit ratio of youth gender transition ranges from unknown to unfavorable.
    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11930-023-00358-x

    https://genderanalysis.net/2022/06/dr-stephen-levine-and-the-plot-to-police-americas-gender-part-1/

    "In case after case, an anti-trans expert witness promotes the same
    baseless theory: permitting social transition for trans youth will
    prevent them from later adopting a cisgender identity. But his own
    sources reveal how implausible that is."

    Congrats. You've found the anti-trans equivalent of voting fraud's Spakovsky.
    I would suggest the medical industry likes the money of forever gender-affirming care. And that is truly sick.
    Your cites go against the credible studies I've cited in the past. And
    I'm sure there's lots more money in the anti-trans political grift.

    https://www.euronews.com/next/2023/02/16/as-spain-advances-trans-rights-sweden-backtracks-on-gender-affirming-treatments-for-teens

    https://nypost.com/2023/01/30/even-progressive-europe-wont-go-as-far-as-america-in-child-transgender-treatments/

    https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20230208-sweden-puts-brakes-on-treatments-for-trans-minors

    https://segm.org/England-ends-gender-affirming-care

    ScottW

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Fri Apr 21 08:56:14 2023
    On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 5:19:31 AM UTC-7, Art Sackman wrote:

    I would suggest the medical industry likes the money of forever gender-affirming care. And that is truly sick.

    ScottW
    How many times can you chop off a dick or a pair of tits?

    That's the easy part. Hormone treatment is forever.

    Even the stupid seminar business is booming.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKKIbMT9CmQ

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Apr 21 13:09:59 2023
    On 4/21/23 11:04 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 7:59:08 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/20/23 6:50 PM, ScottW wrote:
    Systematic reviews of evidence conducted by public health
    authorities in Finland, Sweden, and England concluded that the
    risk/benefit ratio of youth gender transition ranges from unknown
    to unfavorable.
    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11930-023-00358-x

    https://genderanalysis.net/2022/06/dr-stephen-levine-and-the-plot-to-police-americas-gender-part-1/


    "In case after case, an anti-trans expert witness promotes the same >> baseless theory: permitting social transition for trans youth will
    prevent them from later adopting a cisgender identity. But his own
    sources reveal how implausible that is."

    Congrats. You've found the anti-trans equivalent of voting fraud's
    Spakovsky.
    I would suggest the medical industry likes the money of forever
    gender-affirming care. And that is truly sick.
    Your cites go against the credible studies I've cited in the past.
    And I'm sure there's lots more money in the anti-trans political
    grift.

    https://www.euronews.com/next/2023/02/16/as-spain-advances-trans-rights-sweden-backtracks-on-gender-affirming-treatments-for-teens

    Politics. BTW, that documentary's "serious side effects" about
    osteoporosis is overblown and anecdotal.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31027549/

    "Gender-affirming hormone therapy has been shown to maintain or promote acquisition of bone density as measured by dual-energy x-ray
    absorptiometry. No differences in fracture rates have been seen in trans
    women or men in short, prospective trials. Trans children and
    adolescents on gonadotropin-releasing hormone may be at risk for
    decreasing bone density while not on sex steroid hormone replacement.
    Screening for osteoporosis should be based on clinical factors.
    Treatment for osteoporosis follows the same guidelines as cisgender populations."

    https://nypost.com/2023/01/30/even-progressive-europe-wont-go-as-far-as-america-in-child-transgender-treatments/

    Again, politics.

    https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20230208-sweden-puts-brakes-on-treatments-for-trans-minors

    https://segm.org/England-ends-gender-affirming-care

    Disastrous.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 21 14:48:41 2023
    On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 11:10:02 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/21/23 11:04 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 7:59:08 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/20/23 6:50 PM, ScottW wrote:
    Systematic reviews of evidence conducted by public health
    authorities in Finland, Sweden, and England concluded that the
    risk/benefit ratio of youth gender transition ranges from unknown
    to unfavorable.
    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11930-023-00358-x

    https://genderanalysis.net/2022/06/dr-stephen-levine-and-the-plot-to-police-americas-gender-part-1/


    "In case after case, an anti-trans expert witness promotes the same >> baseless theory: permitting social transition for trans youth will
    prevent them from later adopting a cisgender identity. But his own
    sources reveal how implausible that is."

    Congrats. You've found the anti-trans equivalent of voting fraud's
    Spakovsky.
    I would suggest the medical industry likes the money of forever
    gender-affirming care. And that is truly sick.
    Your cites go against the credible studies I've cited in the past.
    And I'm sure there's lots more money in the anti-trans political
    grift.

    https://www.euronews.com/next/2023/02/16/as-spain-advances-trans-rights-sweden-backtracks-on-gender-affirming-treatments-for-teens
    Politics. BTW, that documentary's "serious side effects" about
    osteoporosis is overblown and anecdotal.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31027549/

    "Gender-affirming hormone therapy has been shown to maintain or promote acquisition of bone density as measured by dual-energy x-ray
    absorptiometry. No differences in fracture rates have been seen in trans women or men in short, prospective trials. Trans children and
    adolescents on gonadotropin-releasing hormone may be at risk for
    decreasing bone density while not on sex steroid hormone replacement. Screening for osteoporosis should be based on clinical factors.
    Treatment for osteoporosis follows the same guidelines as cisgender populations."

    Perpetual hormone therapy required to prevent osteoporosis is, in your view,
    a good thing?

    You're f'ing sick.

    ScottW

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Apr 21 17:34:55 2023
    On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 5:48:42 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 11:10:02 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/21/23 11:04 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 7:59:08 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/20/23 6:50 PM, ScottW wrote:
    Systematic reviews of evidence conducted by public health
    authorities in Finland, Sweden, and England concluded that the
    risk/benefit ratio of youth gender transition ranges from unknown
    to unfavorable.
    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11930-023-00358-x

    https://genderanalysis.net/2022/06/dr-stephen-levine-and-the-plot-to-police-americas-gender-part-1/


    "In case after case, an anti-trans expert witness promotes the same >> baseless theory: permitting social transition for trans youth will
    prevent them from later adopting a cisgender identity. But his own
    sources reveal how implausible that is."

    Congrats. You've found the anti-trans equivalent of voting fraud's
    Spakovsky.
    I would suggest the medical industry likes the money of forever
    gender-affirming care. And that is truly sick.
    Your cites go against the credible studies I've cited in the past.
    And I'm sure there's lots more money in the anti-trans political
    grift.

    https://www.euronews.com/next/2023/02/16/as-spain-advances-trans-rights-sweden-backtracks-on-gender-affirming-treatments-for-teens
    Politics. BTW, that documentary's "serious side effects" about osteoporosis is overblown and anecdotal.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31027549/

    "Gender-affirming hormone therapy has been shown to maintain or promote acquisition of bone density as measured by dual-energy x-ray absorptiometry. No differences in fracture rates have been seen in trans women or men in short, prospective trials. Trans children and
    adolescents on gonadotropin-releasing hormone may be at risk for decreasing bone density while not on sex steroid hormone replacement. Screening for osteoporosis should be based on clinical factors.
    Treatment for osteoporosis follows the same guidelines as cisgender populations."
    Perpetual hormone therapy required to prevent osteoporosis is, in your view, a good thing?

    You're f'ing sick.

    ScottW

    Steffi is all in on chopping off kid's dicks. She has a collection of severed penises, bottled
    in formaldehyde, on the mantle of her electricity burning fireplace.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Apr 22 06:44:29 2023
    On 4/21/23 4:48 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 11:10:02 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31027549/

    "Treatment for osteoporosis follows the same guidelines as cisgender
    populations."

    Perpetual hormone therapy required to prevent osteoporosis is, in your view, a good thing?

    You prefer osteoporosis? What's next, outlawing insulin?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 22 08:50:06 2023
    On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 4:44:31 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/21/23 4:48 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 11:10:02 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31027549/

    "Treatment for osteoporosis follows the same guidelines as cisgender
    populations."

    Perpetual hormone therapy required to prevent osteoporosis is, in your view,
    a good thing?
    You prefer osteoporosis? What's next, outlawing insulin?

    How about not telling kids they'll be happier as something they're not
    while not telling 'em they'll be taking a cocktail of hormones and other shit for the rest of their lives and they will be the long term study guinea pigs. Meanwhile the mental health they really seek never comes.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Apr 22 13:23:25 2023
    On 4/22/23 10:50 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 4:44:31 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 4/21/23 4:48 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 11:10:02 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31027549/

    "Treatment for osteoporosis follows the same guidelines as cisgender
    populations."

    Perpetual hormone therapy required to prevent osteoporosis is, in your view,
    a good thing?
    You prefer osteoporosis? What's next, outlawing insulin?

    How about not telling kids they'll be happier as something they're not
    while not telling 'em they'll be taking a cocktail of hormones and other shit for the rest of their lives and they will be the long term study guinea pigs.

    Something they're not? You don't accept they are what they are.

    Meanwhile the mental health they really seek never comes.

    On the contrary, most all are happier after transition and they stay so
    despite the outliers championed for political reasons.

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 22 11:34:11 2023
    On the contrary, most all are happier after transition and they stay so despite the outliers championed for political reasons.

    They can decide for themselves when they become adults.

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