SB 227, also known as the Safety Net for All Workers Act, will use state funds to give illegal aliens who claim to have no work $300 a week, lasting up to 20 weeks.
Weekly handouts and other governmental costs related to the legislation are expected to run the state $356 million.
Meanwhile, California is being stretched on its funds, with the state budget deficit now at tens of billions of dollars.
(end quote)
I have a question....how can the state verify the employment status of an undocumented worker?
And what would stop anyone from claiming? Anybody can suddenly be "undocumented". If they manage it like a regular unemployment claim, the applicant will get a BofA account, a debit card, and monthly deposits will be automatically made to the account.
ScottW
On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 11:20:33 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
SB 227, also known as the Safety Net for All Workers Act, will use state funds to give illegal aliens who claim to have no work $300 a week, lasting up to 20 weeks.
Weekly handouts and other governmental costs related to the legislation are expected to run the state $356 million.
Meanwhile, California is being stretched on its funds, with the state budget deficit now at tens of billions of dollars.
(end quote)
I have a question....how can the state verify the employment status of an undocumented worker?
And what would stop anyone from claiming? Anybody can suddenly be "undocumented". If they manage it like a regular unemployment claim, the applicant will get a BofA account, a debit card, and monthly deposits will be automatically made to the account.
ScottWI'm gonna get three of them. Can I use your address?
SB 227, also known as the Safety Net for All Workers Act, will use
state funds to give illegal aliens who claim to have no work $300 a
week, lasting up to 20 weeks.
Weekly handouts and other governmental costs related to the
legislation are expected to run the state $356 million.
Meanwhile, California is being stretched on its funds, with the
state budget deficit now at tens of billions of dollars. (end quote)
I have a question....how can the state verify the employment status
of an undocumented worker?
And what would stop anyone from claiming? Anybody can suddenly be "undocumented". If they manage it like a regular unemployment claim,Seems like a lot of trouble for $12000/mo, not like Trump's COVID
the applicant will get a BofA account, a debit card, and monthly
deposits will be automatically made to the account.
On 5/18/23 10:20 PM, ScottW wrote:
SB 227, also known as the Safety Net for All Workers Act, will use
state funds to give illegal aliens who claim to have no work $300 a
week, lasting up to 20 weeks.
Weekly handouts and other governmental costs related to the
legislation are expected to run the state $356 million.
https://clc.ucmerced.edu/sites/clc.ucmerced.edu/files/page/documents/worker_relief_2022_2.pdf
"We estimate that in the most recent ten-year period, California
employers contributed an average of $302 million per year on behalf of undocumented workers."
Meanwhile, California is being stretched on its funds, with the
state budget deficit now at tens of billions of dollars. (end quote)
https://www.safetynetforall.org/about
"For every $1 of UI benefits paid out, $1.62 returns to local economies."
I have a question....how can the state verify the employment status of
an undocumented worker?
See pp 8-9 of the bill.
And what would stop anyone from claiming? Anybody can suddenly beSeems like a lot of trouble for $12000/mo, not like Trump's COVID
"undocumented". If they manage it like a regular unemployment claim,
the applicant will get a BofA account, a debit card, and monthly
deposits will be automatically made to the account.
business loans.
"For every $1 of UI benefits paid out, $1.62 returns to local economies."
On 5/18/23 10:20 PM, ScottW wrote:
SB 227, also known as the Safety Net for All Workers Act, will use
state funds to give illegal aliens who claim to have no work $300 a
week, lasting up to 20 weeks.
Weekly handouts and other governmental costs related to thehttps://clc.ucmerced.edu/sites/clc.ucmerced.edu/files/page/documents/worker_relief_2022_2.pdf
legislation are expected to run the state $356 million.
"We estimate that in the most recent ten-year period, California
employers contributed an average of $302 million per year on behalf of undocumented workers."
Meanwhile, California is being stretched on its funds, with thehttps://www.safetynetforall.org/about
state budget deficit now at tens of billions of dollars. (end quote)
"For every $1 of UI benefits paid out, $1.62 returns to local economies."
I have a question....how can the state verify the employment statusSee pp 8-9 of the bill.
of an undocumented worker?
And what would stop anyone from claiming? Anybody can suddenly be "undocumented". If they manage it like a regular unemployment claim,Seems like a lot of trouble for $12000/mo, not like Trump's COVID
the applicant will get a BofA account, a debit card, and monthly
deposits will be automatically made to the account.
business loans.
On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 11:56:37 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 5/18/23 10:20 PM, ScottW wrote:
SB 227, also known as the Safety Net for All Workers Act, will use
state funds to give illegal aliens who claim to have no work $300 a week, lasting up to 20 weeks.
Weekly handouts and other governmental costs related to thehttps://clc.ucmerced.edu/sites/clc.ucmerced.edu/files/page/documents/worker_relief_2022_2.pdf
legislation are expected to run the state $356 million.
"We estimate that in the most recent ten-year period, CaliforniaThey "estimate" because the only way this happened is for "undocumented" workers who were getting a W-2 and had unemployment insurance deducted
employers contributed an average of $302 million per year on behalf of undocumented workers."
from their pay. So they earned it.
What has a recent migrant earned?
Meanwhile, California is being stretched on its funds, with thehttps://www.safetynetforall.org/about
state budget deficit now at tens of billions of dollars. (end quote)
"For every $1 of UI benefits paid out, $1.62 returns to local economies."More garbage economics. That dollar circulates 1.62 times before departing the local
economy. At 9% sales tax the state gets back 14 cents for every 1.62 they dole out.
And the state is already going broke under the Biden economy.
I see the answer wasn't worth your time posting. That bad eh?I have a question....how can the state verify the employment statusSee pp 8-9 of the bill.
of an undocumented worker?
12000$ a month? Fuck me....that's more than the avg state income.And what would stop anyone from claiming? Anybody can suddenly be "undocumented". If they manage it like a regular unemployment claim,Seems like a lot of trouble for $12000/mo, not like Trump's COVID
the applicant will get a BofA account, a debit card, and monthly deposits will be automatically made to the account.
business loans.
Cali is so f'd up. I was watching an interview of a homeless drug addict.
He was asked why and how he lived on the streets.
Guy wasn't an incoherent psychotic....yet.
He said, "Why? Because they make it so easy."
He then rattled off about 5 programs that was giving him $$
and food so by the time he got his food stamps he didn't need them so he sells 'em for about 30c/on the dollar and used that with some of the others for drug money.
He then went on about the people who were really killing it with
SS disability. They're the "rich" people on the street.
What do you think will happen when these people find out another 300 a week is theirs for the asking?
Our local news last night was bragging about a 13 unit apartment the city is buying for a homeless housing
project. They're assuming up to 26 people will get off the streets if each unit gets 2 people.
It's 2 blocks from the beach in Ocean Beach so this is some primo real estate. A couple units have ocean view.
The place has been vacant for a year, owned by homeless "outreach" NGO who bought it (with gov't money)
from another homeless charity group that lost it's funding because of crime by the tenants.
The former manager of the project is homeless sleeping under the stairs. She's hoping she'll get a unit.
They're paying 1M$ each. The "locals" are supposedly supporting it cuz if they put it on the market
a condo timeshare company would buy it and tear it down and build a 10 story high rise that would block someone's view.
The insanity is the price it keeps selling for nearly doubles every time and it keep changing hands between these
corporate homeless support companies with 6 figure salaried execs and hasn't housed anyone for a couple years.
So the city is going to buy it back again and contract out operation for permanent and subsidized rent.
And they all stand around cheering themselves for what a wonderful thing they've done.
13M$ to get 26 people housing. That's crazier than the thousands/month LA is paying these
charlatan homeless grifter companies for tents in LA.
ScottW
On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 11:56:37 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:"We estimate that in the most recent ten-year period, California
On 5/18/23 10:20 PM, ScottW wrote:
SB 227, also known as the Safety Net for All Workers Act, willhttps://clc.ucmerced.edu/sites/clc.ucmerced.edu/files/page/documents/worker_relief_2022_2.pdf
use state funds to give illegal aliens who claim to have no work
$300 a week, lasting up to 20 weeks.
Weekly handouts and other governmental costs related to the
legislation are expected to run the state $356 million.
employers contributed an average of $302 million per year on
behalf of undocumented workers."
They "estimate" because the only way this happened is for
"undocumented" workers who were getting a W-2 and had unemployment
insurance deducted from their pay. So they earned it.
What has a recent migrant earned?
Meanwhile, California is being stretched on its funds, with thehttps://www.safetynetforall.org/about
state budget deficit now at tens of billions of dollars. (end
quote)
"For every $1 of UI benefits paid out, $1.62 returns to local
economies."
More garbage economics. That dollar circulates 1.62 times before
departing the local economy. At 9% sales tax the state gets back 14
cents for every 1.62 they dole out. And the state is already going
broke under the Biden economy.
I have a question....how can the state verify the employmentSee pp 8-9 of the bill.
status of an undocumented worker?
I see the answer wasn't worth your time posting. That bad eh?
And what would stop anyone from claiming? Anybody can suddenly beSeems like a lot of trouble for $12000/mo, not like Trump's COVID
"undocumented". If they manage it like a regular unemployment
claim, the applicant will get a BofA account, a debit card, and
monthly deposits will be automatically made to the account.
business loans.
12000$ a month? Fuck me....that's more than the avg state income.
Cali is so f'd up. I was watching an interview of a homeless drug
addict. He was asked why and how he lived on the streets. Guy wasn't
an incoherent psychotic....yet. He said, "Why? Because they make it
so easy."
He then rattled off about 5 programs that was giving him $$ and food
so by the time he got his food stamps he didn't need them so he
sells 'em for about 30c/on the dollar and used that with some of the
others for drug money. He then went on about the people who were
really killing it with SS disability. They're the "rich" people on
the street.
What do you think will happen when these people find out another 300
a week is theirs for the asking?
Our local news last night was bragging about a 13 unit apartment the
city is buying for a homeless housing project. They're assuming up
to 26 people will get off the streets if each unit gets 2 people.
It's 2 blocks from the beach in Ocean Beach so this is some primo
real estate.
A couple units have ocean view. The place has been vacant for a year,
owned by homeless "outreach" NGO who bought it (with gov't money)
from another homeless charity group that lost it's funding because of
crime by the tenants. The former manager of the project is homeless
sleeping under the stairs. She's hoping she'll get a unit. They're
paying 1M$ each. The "locals" are supposedly supporting it cuz if
they put it on the market a condo timeshare company would buy it and
tear it down and build a 10 story high rise that would block
someone's view. The insanity is the price it keeps selling for nearly
doubles every time and it keep changing hands between these corporate homeless support companies with 6 figure salaried execs and hasn't
housed anyone for a couple years. So the city is going to buy it back
again and contract out operation for permanent and subsidized rent.
And they all stand around cheering themselves for what a wonderful
thing they've done. 13M$ to get 26 people housing. That's crazier
than the thousands/month LA is paying these charlatan homeless
grifter companies for tents in LA.
On 5/19/23 5:52 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 11:56:37 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:"We estimate that in the most recent ten-year period, California
On 5/18/23 10:20 PM, ScottW wrote:
SB 227, also known as the Safety Net for All Workers Act, willhttps://clc.ucmerced.edu/sites/clc.ucmerced.edu/files/page/documents/worker_relief_2022_2.pdf
use state funds to give illegal aliens who claim to have no work
$300 a week, lasting up to 20 weeks.
Weekly handouts and other governmental costs related to the
legislation are expected to run the state $356 million.
employers contributed an average of $302 million per year on
behalf of undocumented workers."
They "estimate" because the only way this happened is for
"undocumented" workers who were getting a W-2 and had unemployment insurance deducted from their pay. So they earned it.
What has a recent migrant earned?A recent migrant won't qualify under the bill. It could be you've
mistaken "claim to have no work" for "can't prove they've worked."
On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 7:46:41 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 5/19/23 5:52 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 11:56:37 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 5/18/23 10:20 PM, ScottW wrote:
SB 227, also known as the Safety Net for All Workers Act, willhttps://clc.ucmerced.edu/sites/clc.ucmerced.edu/files/page/documents/worker_relief_2022_2.pdf
use state funds to give illegal aliens who claim to have no work
$300 a week, lasting up to 20 weeks.
Weekly handouts and other governmental costs related to the
legislation are expected to run the state $356 million.
"We estimate that in the most recent ten-year period, California
A recent migrant won't qualify under the bill. It could be you'veemployers contributed an average of $302 million per year on
behalf of undocumented workers."
They "estimate" because the only way this happened is for
"undocumented" workers who were getting a W-2 and had unemployment
insurance deducted from their pay. So they earned it.
What has a recent migrant earned?
mistaken "claim to have no work" for "can't prove they've worked."
That's all BS. California has been doling out UNemployment to everyone who has
earned it with a job. Your take is the bill changes nothing and it's all a BS show.
Hey, what do I know....you know dems far better than I.
On 5/20/23 10:53 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 7:46:41 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 5/19/23 5:52 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 11:56:37 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 5/18/23 10:20 PM, ScottW wrote:
SB 227, also known as the Safety Net for All Workers Act, willhttps://clc.ucmerced.edu/sites/clc.ucmerced.edu/files/page/documents/worker_relief_2022_2.pdf
use state funds to give illegal aliens who claim to have no work
$300 a week, lasting up to 20 weeks.
Weekly handouts and other governmental costs related to the
legislation are expected to run the state $356 million.
"We estimate that in the most recent ten-year period, California
A recent migrant won't qualify under the bill. It could be you'veemployers contributed an average of $302 million per year on
behalf of undocumented workers."
They "estimate" because the only way this happened is for
"undocumented" workers who were getting a W-2 and had unemployment
insurance deducted from their pay. So they earned it.
What has a recent migrant earned?
mistaken "claim to have no work" for "can't prove they've worked."
That's all BS. California has been doling out UNemployment to everyone who hasNo, that's not it. My "take" is the bill has requirements that would preclude your scenario of a recent immigrant getting immediate aid.
earned it with a job. Your take is the bill changes nothing and it's all a BS show.
And you know it or you wouldn't have clipped the "93 hrs/3 mos" part.
Hey, what do I know....you know dems far better than I.I read the bill itself.
On 5/21/23 7:27 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Sunday, May 21, 2023 at 5:38:14 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 5/20/23 10:53 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 7:46:41 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:No, that's not it. My "take" is the bill has requirements that would
On 5/19/23 5:52 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 11:56:37 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 5/18/23 10:20 PM, ScottW wrote:
SB 227, also known as the Safety Net for All Workers Act, will >>>>>>> use state funds to give illegal aliens who claim to have no work >>>>>>> $300 a week, lasting up to 20 weeks.https://clc.ucmerced.edu/sites/clc.ucmerced.edu/files/page/documents/worker_relief_2022_2.pdf
Weekly handouts and other governmental costs related to the
legislation are expected to run the state $356 million.
"We estimate that in the most recent ten-year period, California
A recent migrant won't qualify under the bill. It could be you'veemployers contributed an average of $302 million per year on
behalf of undocumented workers."
They "estimate" because the only way this happened is for
"undocumented" workers who were getting a W-2 and had unemployment >>>>> insurance deducted from their pay. So they earned it.
What has a recent migrant earned?
mistaken "claim to have no work" for "can't prove they've worked."
That's all BS. California has been doling out UNemployment to everyone who has
earned it with a job. Your take is the bill changes nothing and it's all a BS show.
preclude your scenario of a recent immigrant getting immediate aid.
and so you confirm my take on your take. It changes nothing."Existing law prohibits payment of unemployment compensation benefits
for services performed by a person who is not a citizen or national of
the United States, unless that person is an individual who was lawfully admitted for permanent residence at the time the services were
performed, was lawfully present for purposes of performing the services,
or was permanently residing in the United States under color of law at
the time the services were performed, as specified.
This bill would establish, until January 1, 2027, the Excluded Workers Program, to be administered by the Employment Development Department
upon appropriation by the Legislature, for the purpose of providing
income assistance to excluded workers who are ineligible for the
existing state or federal benefits administered by the department and
who are unemployed."
It makes eligible the previously ineligible.
On Sunday, May 21, 2023 at 5:38:14 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 5/20/23 10:53 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 7:46:41 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:No, that's not it. My "take" is the bill has requirements that would
On 5/19/23 5:52 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 11:56:37 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 5/18/23 10:20 PM, ScottW wrote:
SB 227, also known as the Safety Net for All Workers Act, willhttps://clc.ucmerced.edu/sites/clc.ucmerced.edu/files/page/documents/worker_relief_2022_2.pdf
use state funds to give illegal aliens who claim to have no work >>>>>>> $300 a week, lasting up to 20 weeks.
Weekly handouts and other governmental costs related to the
legislation are expected to run the state $356 million.
"We estimate that in the most recent ten-year period, California
A recent migrant won't qualify under the bill. It could be you'veemployers contributed an average of $302 million per year on
behalf of undocumented workers."
They "estimate" because the only way this happened is for
"undocumented" workers who were getting a W-2 and had unemployment
insurance deducted from their pay. So they earned it.
What has a recent migrant earned?
mistaken "claim to have no work" for "can't prove they've worked."
That's all BS. California has been doling out UNemployment to everyone who has
earned it with a job. Your take is the bill changes nothing and it's all a BS show.
preclude your scenario of a recent immigrant getting immediate aid.
and so you confirm my take on your take. It changes nothing.
And you know it or you wouldn't have clipped the "93 hrs/3 mos" part.
Hey, what do I know....you know dems far better than I.I read the bill itself.
I've seen your reading skills in action. They lack credibility.
and 7 hours/week for 13 weeks is a f'ing joke.
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