https://journals.lww.com/health-physics/Fulltext/2022/02000/World_Atmospheric_CO2,_Its_14C_Specific_Activity,.2.aspx

Meanwhile the pause lingers on...

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/catherinesalgado/2023/02/04/hot-air-no-global-warming-for-eight-years-n1667955

ScottW

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On 5/30/23 10:07 AM, ScottW wrote:

https://journals.lww.com/health-physics/Fulltext/2022/02000/World_Atmospheric_CO2,_Its_14C_Specific_Activity,.2.aspx

Thanks for the cite. The article is sufficiently old that you should
have looked to see how it was received.

https://journals.lww.com/health-physics/Citation/2022/06000/Comment_on__World_Atmospheric_CO2,_Its_14C.13.aspx

"(2022) published a study based on analysis of CO, (radiocarbon) in the atmosphere that concludes that CO; emitted from fossil-fuel
combustion, which contains no "*CO, contributes only 36% to the observed increase in atmospheric COs over the industrial era, with the balance
due to non-fossil-fuel sources. In this Comment we demonstrate that the
paper by Skrable et al. is fundamentally flawed in at least four
respects:

(1) erroneous history of "CO, in air that is at odds with
direct observations;

(2) neglect of the consequences of the large input
of "CO, into the atmosphere from nuclear weapons tests in the 1950s and
1960s;

(3) failure to account for isotope exchanges between the atmosphere,
ocean, and land biosphere that occur independent of net change in amount
of atmospheric CO2;

and (4) neglect of multiple independent lines of evidence that CO2
emitted from fossil-fuel combustion is the principal contributor to the increase of atmospheric CO2 over the industrial era.

We... conclude that the paper of Skrable et al. should be retracted in
its entirety."

Meanwhile the pause lingers on...

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/catherinesalgado/2023/02/04/hot-air-no-global-warming-for-eight-years-n1667955

The 'pause' remains a artifact of cherry-picking a plateau from a
context of rising overall temperatures.

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On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 8:59:28 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 5/30/23 10:07 AM, ScottW wrote:

https://journals.lww.com/health-physics/Fulltext/2022/02000/World_Atmospheric_CO2,_Its_14C_Specific_Activity,.2.aspx

Thanks for the cite. The article is sufficiently old that you should
have looked to see how it was received.

Who needs to look? I know how it would be received.
Little different than a magic cure for drug addicted homeless.
Imagine the entire industries that are built upon AGW suddenly finding themselves pointless.

I doubt they will go quietly into the night.

ScottW

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Information underload in Shmoo town...

https://journals.lww.com/health-physics/Fulltext/2022/02000/World_Atmospheric_CO2,_Its_14C_Specific_Activity,.2.aspx

Thanks for the cite. The article is sufficiently old that you should
have looked to see how it was received.

Who needs to look?

Only someone who craves "information". Obviously, that's not you.

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On 5/30/23 10:04 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 8:59:28 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 5/30/23 10:07 AM, ScottW wrote:

https://journals.lww.com/health-physics/Fulltext/2022/02000/World_Atmospheric_CO2,_Its_14C_Specific_Activity,.2.aspx

Thanks for the cite. The article is sufficiently old that you should
have looked to see how it was received.

Who needs to look? I know how it would be received.

If you knew it had serious flaws, why did you post it?

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On 31/05/2023 1:07 am, ScottW wrote:

https://journals.lww.com/health-physics/Fulltext/2022/02000/World_Atmospheric_CO2,_Its_14C_Specific_Activity,.2.aspx

**Written and funded by deniers. Big whoop. The facts are more prosaic:

Humans have dumped more CO2 into the atmosphere than natural processes
can deal with. As evidenced by this graph:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide_in_Earth%27s_atmosphere#/media/File:CO2_40k.png

For 10,000 years, CO2 levels remained relatively static. Then we began
burning fossil fuels.

Meanwhile the pause lingers on...

**Pause? What "Pause" would that be?

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-temperature

"The 10 warmest years in the historical record have all occurred since
2010."

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/catherinesalgado/2023/02/04/hot-air-no-global-warming-for-eight-years-n1667955

ScottW

**The Sun is the major driver of climate on this planet. CO2 levels are
a secondary, but a no less important, one. At present, Solar activity is
at an historical low level, thus the warming trend, as noted over the
past 150+ years, appears to be slowing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_cycle#/media/File:Solar_Cycle_Prediction.gif

Here's the big worry:

WHEN (not if) Solar activity returns to it's normal level, we can expect
the observed warming trend to accelerate.

When/if you want to learn the facts, as opposed to you politically
skewed bullshit, right wing claptrap, then I suggest you read this:

https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/syr/

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On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 5:12:29 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:


" The facts ....
As evidenced .....

historical record .....

the facts, "

There was no Russia Trump collusion.


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On 1/06/2023 7:57 am, Art Sackman wrote:

On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 5:12:29 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:

" The facts ....
As evidenced .....

historical record .....

the facts, "

There was no Russia Trump collusion.

**You are full of shit:

https://time.com/5565991/russia-influence-2016-election/

https://theconversation.com/fact-check-us-what-is-the-impact-of-russian-interference-in-the-us-presidential-election-146711

https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cyber/russian-interference-in-2016-u-s-elections

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/new-evidence-shows-how-russias-election-interference-has-gotten-more

Putin is desperate to see his friend, Trump, back in the White House. If
that is allowed to happen, Ukraine is fucked and the US along with it.

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On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 2:57:41 PM UTC-7, Art Sackman wrote:

On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 5:12:29 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:

" The facts ....
As evidenced .....

historical record .....

the facts, "

There was no Russia Trump collusion.

You're going to trigger Trevor....oops...too late.

ScottW

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On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 11:09:43 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:

On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 2:57:41 PM UTC-7, Art Sackman wrote:

On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 5:12:29 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:

" The facts ....
As evidenced .....

historical record .....

the facts, "

There was no Russia Trump collusion.

You're going to trigger Trevor....oops...too late.

ScottW

It's as easy as pie.

Trump, IPCC, EV's, and bacon do it every time

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On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 6:20:08 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:

On 1/06/2023 7:57 am, Art Sackman wrote:

On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 5:12:29 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:

" The facts ....
As evidenced .....

historical record .....

the facts, "

There was no Russia Trump collusion.

**You are full of shit:

https://time.com/5565991/russia-influence-2016-election/

https://theconversation.com/fact-check-us-what-is-the-impact-of-russian-interference-in-the-us-presidential-election-146711

https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cyber/russian-interference-in-2016-u-s-elections

All Three debunked

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/new-evidence-shows-how-russias-election-interference-has-gotten-more

The article focuses on Russian efforts, has nothing to say about Trump collusio(because there wasn't any)
The listed Russian efforts were in regard to several other candidates who are NOT named Trump
All but one of the allegations regarded other candidates.

quoting this article
"in 2016, my analysis showed that while the IRA’s voter suppression campaigns on social media clearly targeted likely Clinton voters, especially nonwhite voters, no single voter suppression message targeted likely Trump voters.

As to whether Russia-linked groups are trying to aid Trump or Sanders over other candidates in 2020, unfortunately, this analysis itself cannot provide a definite answer yet.

Putin is desperate to see his friend, Trump, back in the White House. If that is allowed to happen, Ukraine is fucked and the US along with it.

He actually wants Biden, the ally of his Chinese ally

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On 1/06/2023 1:24 pm, Art Sackman wrote:

On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 6:20:08 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:

On 1/06/2023 7:57 am, Art Sackman wrote:

On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 5:12:29 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:


" The facts ....
As evidenced .....

historical record .....

the facts, "

There was no Russia Trump collusion.

**You are full of shit:

https://time.com/5565991/russia-influence-2016-election/

https://theconversation.com/fact-check-us-what-is-the-impact-of-russian-interference-in-the-us-presidential-election-146711

https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cyber/russian-interference-in-2016-u-s-elections

All Three debunked

**Then feel free to debunk them. Until you do, they will remain as a
suitable and accurate assessment.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/new-evidence-shows-how-russias-election-interference-has-gotten-more

The article focuses on Russian efforts, has nothing to say about Trump collusio(because there wasn't any)

**Sure there was. Trump LOVES Putin. Putin LOVES Trump. They are best
buddies. Trump and Putin have both said so many times. Putin will do
anything for Trump and Trump will do anything for Putin.

The listed Russian efforts were in regard to several other candidates who are NOT named Trump
All but one of the allegations regarded other candidates.

**Those candidates were Trump slaves.

quoting this article
"in 2016, my analysis showed that while the IRA’s voter suppression campaigns on social media clearly targeted likely Clinton voters, especially nonwhite voters, no single voter suppression message targeted likely Trump voters.

As to whether Russia-linked groups are trying to aid Trump or Sanders over other candidates in 2020, unfortunately, this analysis itself cannot provide a definite answer yet.

Putin is desperate to see his friend, Trump, back in the White House. If
that is allowed to happen, Ukraine is fucked and the US along with it.

He actually wants Biden, the ally of his Chinese ally

**I see Biden dealing with the Chinese as an adult would. Unlike Trump's child-like approach. Biden is attempting to deal with the Chinese,
whilst avoiding conflict.




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On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 11:35:36 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:

The listed Russian efforts were in regard to several other candidates who are NOT named Trump
All but one of the allegations regarded other candidates.

**Those candidates were Trump slaves.

It was mostly referencing Bernie Sanders and Kamala Harris.
An interesting pair of Trump slaves!!!!!

He actually wants Biden, the ally of his Chinese ally

**I see Biden dealing with the Chinese as an adult would. Unlike Trump's child-like approach. Biden is attempting to deal with the Chinese,
whilst avoiding conflict.

Biden spent days watching a balloon fly around, while eating
chocolate chip ice cream cones and falling off his bike.

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On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 8:35:36 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote:

**I see Biden dealing with the Chinese as an adult would. Unlike Trump's child-like approach. Biden is attempting to deal with the Chinese,
whilst avoiding conflict.

Here we have Trevor giving out A's for effort.

Meanwhile in the real world, the Chinese show the Biden admin total disdain.

"U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin expressed his disappointment over China’s refusal to meet with him during his visit to the region, calling it “unfortunate.”
And as we take a look at some of the things that China is doing in the international airspace in the region and international waterways, you know, the provocative intercepts of our aircraft and also our allies’ aircraft, that’s very concerning, and
we would hope that they would alter their actions. But since they haven’t yet, I’m concerned about, at some point, having an incident that could very, very quickly spiral out of control."

Oh well, you may be among the first to die.

https://eurasiantimes.com/chinas-icbms-rattle-australia-new-report-says-two-third-of-the-country/

ScottW

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On 2/06/2023 1:28 pm, ScottW wrote:

On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 8:35:36 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote:

**I see Biden dealing with the Chinese as an adult would. Unlike Trump's
child-like approach. Biden is attempting to deal with the Chinese,
whilst avoiding conflict.

Here we have Trevor giving out A's for effort.

Meanwhile in the real world, the Chinese show the Biden admin total disdain.

**Well, duh. That's Chinese diplomacy. It resembles that of a 12 year
old child. The Chinese stomp their feet and demand to be taken
seriously, but provide no reason to do so. The Biden administration is
merely using the well-worn diplomatic principles. China will fall into
line. Eventually.

In the meantime, you may care to address my previous post:

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On 31/05/2023 1:07 am, ScottW wrote:

https://journals.lww.com/health-physics/Fulltext/2022/02000/World_Atmospheric_CO2,_Its_14C_Specific_Activity,.2.aspx

**Written and funded by deniers. Big whoop. The facts are more prosaic:

Humans have dumped more CO2 into the atmosphere than natural processes
can deal with. As evidenced by this graph:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide_in_Earth%27s_atmosphere#/media/File:CO2_40k.png

For 10,000 years, CO2 levels remained relatively static. Then we began
burning fossil fuels.

Meanwhile the pause lingers on...

**Pause? What "Pause" would that be?

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-temperature

"The 10 warmest years in the historical record have all occurred since
2010."



https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/catherinesalgado/2023/02/04/hot-air-no-global-warming-for-eight-years-n1667955

ScottW

**The Sun is the major driver of climate on this planet. CO2 leve

**Well, duh. That's Trevor's diplomacy. It resembles that of a 12 year
old child. Trevor stomps his feet and demands to be taken
seriously, but provide no reason to do so.

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On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 9:14:47 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote:

On 2/06/2023 1:28 pm, ScottW wrote:

On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 8:35:36 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote:

**I see Biden dealing with the Chinese as an adult would. Unlike Trump's >> child-like approach. Biden is attempting to deal with the Chinese,
whilst avoiding conflict.

Here we have Trevor giving out A's for effort.

Meanwhile in the real world, the Chinese show the Biden admin total disdain.

**Well, duh. That's Chinese diplomacy. It resembles that of a 12 year
old child. The Chinese stomp their feet and demand to be taken
seriously, but provide no reason to do so. The Biden administration is merely using the well-worn diplomatic principles. China will fall into
line. Eventually.

Those well-worn diplomatic principles haven't dissuaded China one bit from pursuing it's goal. And it's not like they're trying to hide it.
They have objectives and a timetable. There is zero evidence that "well-worn diplomatic
principles" have done squat to dissuade them from pursuing their plan.

What will you say when the rockets fly?

In the meantime, you may care to address my previous post:

I refer you to the subject line.

ScottW

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