"So one of the biggest pieces of data that they're missing right now is that 80% of the kids who are going through gender dysphoria or gender confusion either before puberty and during puberty, 80% of those kids are corrected – [They] will get rid of
all that gender confusion by the time puberty is over. 80%!"
(I've read other child psychologists put the number at 90%)

Beck added that puberty blockers are another irreversible step and can impact minors’ fertility in the future.

"If a kid goes on puberty blockers when they’re 13, 14, 15 years old, they're chemically castrated. They're not going to have children when they get older. They're not given this data," he told host Joey Jones. "So eight of those kids, out of those ten,
are going to want to go back to be just a regular old person and they're not going to be able to."

Beck came out as transgender in a 2013 interview with CNN’s Anderson Cooper but expressed regret years later, telling conservative influencer Robby Starbuck in a December 2022 interview, "Everything you see on CNN with my face, do not even believe a
word of it." "Everything that happened to me for the last 10 years destroyed my life. I destroyed my life. I'm not a victim. I did this to myself, but I had help."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/detransitioned-navy-seal-warns-parents-gender-surgery-minors-not-sharing-all-data

ScottW

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On 6/4/23 11:01 AM, ScottW wrote:

"So one of the biggest pieces of data that they're missing right now is that 80% of the kids who are going through gender dysphoria or gender confusion either before puberty and during puberty, 80% of those kids are corrected – [They] will get rid of

all that gender confusion by the time puberty is over. 80%!"

(I've read other child psychologists put the number at 90%)

This number is entirely made up, unless that "correct" gender id
includes trans.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/political-minds/202205/new-5-year-study-gender-identity-is-stable-trans-children

Reports on this:

https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/150/2/e2021056082/186992/Gender-Identity-5-Years-After-Social-Transition

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On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 12:48:22 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 6/4/23 11:01 AM, ScottW wrote:

"So one of the biggest pieces of data that they're missing right now is that 80% of the kids who are going through gender dysphoria or gender confusion either before puberty and during puberty, 80% of those kids are corrected – [They] will get rid

of all that gender confusion by the time puberty is over. 80%!"

(I've read other child psychologists put the number at 90%)

This number is entirely made up, unless that "correct" gender id
includes trans.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/political-minds/202205/new-5-year-study-gender-identity-is-stable-trans-children

“Are you a boy or a girl?” about 90% of the children reported an answer that aligned with their sex assigned at birth.

So the real answer is 90% of the kids they claim needed gender affirming care weren't trans at all.

Given that the rest of them probably only heard gender transitioning advocacy, what do you really expect after 5 years?
They've only begun to see the horror of the path they're wasting their lives on.

ScottW

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On 6/4/23 4:02 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 12:48:22 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 6/4/23 11:01 AM, ScottW wrote:

"So one of the biggest pieces of data that they're missing right
now is that 80% of the kids who are going through gender
dysphoria or gender confusion either before puberty and during
puberty, 80% of those kids are corrected – [They] will get rid
of all that gender confusion by the time puberty is over. 80%!"
(I've read other child psychologists put the number at 90%)

This number is entirely made up, unless that "correct" gender id
includes trans.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/political-minds/202205/new-5-year-study-gender-identity-is-stable-trans-children

“Are you a boy or a girl?” about 90% of the children reported an
answer that aligned with their sex assigned at birth.

So the real answer is 90% of the kids they claim needed gender
affirming care weren't trans at all.

Category error: 90% of all children is not 90% of trans kids.

Given that the rest of them probably only heard gender transitioning advocacy, what do you really expect after 5 years? They've only
begun to see the horror of the path they're wasting their lives on.

Transgender identity predates all that and persisted despite much worse societal attitudes than your "horror of the path" of recent years.

Again you favor your gut over a scientific study. From the cite:

RESULTS
We found that an average of 5 years after their initial social
transition, 7.3% of youth had retransitioned at least once. At the end
of this period, most youth identified as binary transgender youth (94%), including 1.3% who retransitioned to another identity before returning
to their binary transgender identity. A total of 2.5% of youth
identified as cisgender and 3.5% as nonbinary. Later cisgender
identities were more common among youth whose initial social transition occurred before age 6 years; their retransitions often occurred before
age 10 years.

CONCLUSIONS
These results suggest that retransitions are infrequent. More commonly, transgender youth who socially transitioned at early ages continued to
identify that way. Nonetheless, understanding retransitions is crucial
for clinicians and families to help make retransitions as smooth as
possible for youth.

So that 90% better describes successful transitions.

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On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 7:29:39 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 6/4/23 4:02 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 12:48:22 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 6/4/23 11:01 AM, ScottW wrote:

"So one of the biggest pieces of data that they're missing right
now is that 80% of the kids who are going through gender
dysphoria or gender confusion either before puberty and during
puberty, 80% of those kids are corrected – [They] will get rid
of all that gender confusion by the time puberty is over. 80%!"
(I've read other child psychologists put the number at 90%)

This number is entirely made up, unless that "correct" gender id
includes trans.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/political-minds/202205/new-5-year-study-gender-identity-is-stable-trans-children

“Are you a boy or a girl?” about 90% of the children reported an answer that aligned with their sex assigned at birth.

So the real answer is 90% of the kids they claim needed gender
affirming care weren't trans at all.

Category error: 90% of all children is not 90% of trans kids.

You didn't say all. Why you would drag all kids in this and act like that's relevant?

GMAFB

ScottW

Given that the rest of them probably only heard gender transitioning advocacy, what do you really expect after 5 years? They've only
begun to see the horror of the path they're wasting their lives on.

Transgender identity predates all that and persisted despite much worse societal attitudes than your "horror of the path" of recent years.

Again you favor your gut over a scientific study. From the cite:

RESULTS
We found that an average of 5 years after their initial social
transition, 7.3% of youth had retransitioned at least once.

So they detransitioned and then retransitioned?

At the end
of this period, most youth identified as binary transgender youth (94%),

Do you push gender affirming medical treatments on binary kids?
They'll grow out of that too.

including 1.3% who retransitioned to another identity before returning
to their binary transgender identity. A total of 2.5% of youth
identified as cisgender and 3.5% as nonbinary. Later cisgender
identities were more common among youth whose initial social transition occurred before age 6 years; their retransitions often occurred before
age 10 years.

CONCLUSIONS
These results suggest that retransitions are infrequent. More commonly, transgender youth who socially transitioned at early ages continued to identify that way. Nonetheless, understanding retransitions is crucial
for clinicians and families to help make retransitions as smooth as
possible for youth.

So that 90% better describes successful transitions.

There are no successful transitions. None. It's not medically possible.

ScottW

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On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 4:44:47 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:

On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 7:29:39 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 6/4/23 4:02 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 12:48:22 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 6/4/23 11:01 AM, ScottW wrote:

"So one of the biggest pieces of data that they're missing right
now is that 80% of the kids who are going through gender
dysphoria or gender confusion either before puberty and during
puberty, 80% of those kids are corrected – [They] will get rid
of all that gender confusion by the time puberty is over. 80%!"
(I've read other child psychologists put the number at 90%)

This number is entirely made up, unless that "correct" gender id
includes trans.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/political-minds/202205/new-5-year-study-gender-identity-is-stable-trans-children

“Are you a boy or a girl?” about 90% of the children reported an answer that aligned with their sex assigned at birth.

So the real answer is 90% of the kids they claim needed gender
affirming care weren't trans at all.

Category error: 90% of all children is not 90% of trans kids.

You didn't say all. Why you would drag all kids in this and act like that's relevant?

GMAFB

ScottW

Given that the rest of them probably only heard gender transitioning advocacy, what do you really expect after 5 years? They've only
begun to see the horror of the path they're wasting their lives on.

Transgender identity predates all that and persisted despite much worse societal attitudes than your "horror of the path" of recent years.

Again you favor your gut over a scientific study. From the cite:

RESULTS
We found that an average of 5 years after their initial social
transition, 7.3% of youth had retransitioned at least once.

So they detransitioned and then retransitioned?

At the end
of this period, most youth identified as binary transgender youth (94%),

Do you push gender affirming medical treatments on binary kids?
They'll grow out of that too.

including 1.3% who retransitioned to another identity before returning
to their binary transgender identity. A total of 2.5% of youth
identified as cisgender and 3.5% as nonbinary. Later cisgender
identities were more common among youth whose initial social transition occurred before age 6 years; their retransitions often occurred before
age 10 years.

CONCLUSIONS
These results suggest that retransitions are infrequent. More commonly, transgender youth who socially transitioned at early ages continued to identify that way. Nonetheless, understanding retransitions is crucial
for clinicians and families to help make retransitions as smooth as possible for youth.

So that 90% better describes successful transitions.

There are no successful transitions. None. It's not medically possible.

ScottW

You can unmake a man, but you can't make him into a woman.
a Trans woman is not the same thing as a biological woman,

FACT, FACT, FACT, FACT, FACT

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The Stupid Storm intensifies.

You can unmake a man, but you can't make him into a woman.
a Trans woman is not the same thing as a biological woman,

FACT, FACT, FACT, FACT, FACT

You're ODing on your UltraDogmaBooster pills. Slow your roll.

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On 6/5/23 3:44 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 7:29:39 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 6/4/23 4:02 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 12:48:22 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

On 6/4/23 11:01 AM, ScottW wrote:

"So one of the biggest pieces of data that they're missing
right now is that 80% of the kids who are going through
gender dysphoria or gender confusion either before puberty
and during puberty, 80% of those kids are corrected – [They]
will get rid of all that gender confusion by the time puberty
is over. 80%!" (I've read other child psychologists put the
number at 90%)

This number is entirely made up, unless that "correct" gender
id includes trans.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/political-minds/202205/new-5-year-study-gender-identity-is-stable-trans-children

“Are you a boy or a girl?” about 90% of the children reported an

answer that aligned with their sex assigned at birth.

So the real answer is 90% of the kids they claim needed gender
affirming care weren't trans at all.

Category error: 90% of all children is not 90% of trans kids.

You didn't say all. Why you would drag all kids in this and act like
that's relevant?

GMAFB

It's your cite. What is that 90% figure if not 90% of all they asked?
That leaves 10% who didn't align. You can't apply the 90% result of the
total to the subcategory.

Given that the rest of them probably only heard gender
transitioning advocacy, what do you really expect after 5 years?
They've only begun to see the horror of the path they're wasting
their lives on.

Transgender identity predates all that and persisted despite much
worse societal attitudes than your "horror of the path" of recent
years.

Again you favor your gut over a scientific study. From the cite:

RESULTS We found that an average of 5 years after their initial
social transition, 7.3% of youth had retransitioned at least once.

So they detransitioned and then retransitioned?

Yes.

At the end of this period, most youth identified as binary
transgender youth (94%),

Do you push gender affirming medical treatments on binary kids?
They'll grow out of that too.

Push? There are all kinds of gender affirming treatments for binary
kids: surgery for gynecomastia; hormones for growth control; hormone replacement after removal of diseased organs; etc.

Best to leave it to parents and doctors.

including 1.3% who retransitioned to another identity before
returning to their binary transgender identity. A total of 2.5% of
youth identified as cisgender and 3.5% as nonbinary. Later
cisgender identities were more common among youth whose initial
social transition occurred before age 6 years; their retransitions
often occurred before age 10 years.

CONCLUSIONS These results suggest that retransitions are
infrequent. More commonly, transgender youth who socially
transitioned at early ages continued to identify that way.
Nonetheless, understanding retransitions is crucial for clinicians
and families to help make retransitions as smooth as possible for
youth.

So that 90% better describes successful transitions.

There are no successful transitions. None. It's not medically
possible.

It's not for you to judge.

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