• Biden's Assistance to Ukraine

    From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 23 13:01:59 2023
    is still Fubar.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ground-launched-small-diameter-bomb-won-t-make-ukraine-combat-debut-till-fall/ar-AA175pvT

    If Ukraine wants to use cluster munitions on it's own territory to defend itself....I say let them. Instead they'll have to absorb many times the casualties they would have to if given these weapons.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Jun 23 15:45:02 2023
    On 6/23/23 3:01 PM, ScottW wrote:
    is still Fubar.

    Yes, today's news from Ukraine is all about Biden. Or is it?

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-mercenary-boss-says-moscows-war-ukraine-based-lies-2023-06-23/


    LONDON, June 23 (Reuters) - Russian mercenary chief Yevgeny Prigozhin on
    Friday accused the Russian military of "destroying" his fighters,
    without fully explaining his accusation, and vowed to stop the "evil" of
    the military leadership.

    The Defence Ministry quickly issued a statement saying Prigozhin's
    accusations "are not true and are an informational provocation".

    In a series of audio messages on his official Telegram channel,
    Prigozhin said:

    "Those who destroyed our lads, who destroyed the lives of many tens of thousands of Russian soldiers, will be punished. I ask that no one offer resistance."

    He said details of what had occurred were just emerging, but added: "The Minister of Defence arrived specially in Rostov to carry out an
    operation to destroy the Wagner PMC (private military company)."

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 23 14:56:29 2023
    On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 4:45:05 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:


    the Wagner PMC

    Pastries Made by Convicts

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Sat Jun 24 09:23:24 2023
    On 6/23/23 4:56 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 4:45:05 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:

    the Wagner PMC

    Pastries Made by Convicts

    Prigozhin was called "Putin's Chef," and recruited mercenaries from
    prisons, so maybe.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 24 09:14:13 2023
    On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 1:45:05 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 6/23/23 3:01 PM, ScottW wrote:
    is still Fubar.

    Yes, today's news from Ukraine is all about Biden. Or is it?

    I bring you what isn't always in the news. And still your leash pulls you back.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Jun 24 12:30:45 2023
    On 6/24/23 11:14 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 1:45:05 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 6/23/23 3:01 PM, ScottW wrote:
    is still Fubar.

    Yes, today's news from Ukraine is all about Biden. Or is it?

    I bring you what isn't always in the news. And still your leash pulls you back.

    You complaining about Biden's Ukraine response isn't news. Nor is it
    news that the US won't supply weapons it doesn't have or can't replace.

    Meanwhile a rebellion or coup has broken out. Way more important unless
    your aim is say bad things about Biden.

    If last night was a "3 AM" event like the debate questioners ask about,
    at least we didn't have to worry whether the President's morning
    response would be in all caps.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 24 11:15:20 2023
    On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 10:30:48 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 6/24/23 11:14 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 1:45:05 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 6/23/23 3:01 PM, ScottW wrote:
    is still Fubar.

    Yes, today's news from Ukraine is all about Biden. Or is it?

    I bring you what isn't always in the news. And still your leash pulls you back.
    You complaining about Biden's Ukraine response isn't news. Nor is it
    news that the US won't supply weapons it doesn't have or can't replace.

    Meanwhile a rebellion or coup has broken out. Way more important unless
    your aim is say bad things about Biden.

    Start your own thread. oops, too late coup averted.

    Lucky for Joe. He didn't cancel his weekend in camp David.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Jun 24 13:51:58 2023
    On 6/24/23 1:15 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 10:30:48 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 6/24/23 11:14 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 1:45:05 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 6/23/23 3:01 PM, ScottW wrote:
    is still Fubar.

    Yes, today's news from Ukraine is all about Biden. Or is it?

    I bring you what isn't always in the news. And still your leash pulls you back.
    You complaining about Biden's Ukraine response isn't news. Nor is it
    news that the US won't supply weapons it doesn't have or can't replace.

    Meanwhile a rebellion or coup has broken out. Way more important unless
    your aim is say bad things about Biden.

    Start your own thread. oops, too late coup averted.

    Lucky for Joe. He didn't cancel his weekend in camp David.

    And managed to drive Wagner out of Ukraine at the same time.

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 24 15:49:40 2023
    On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 2:52:00 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 6/24/23 1:15 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 10:30:48 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:


    Lucky for Joe. He didn't cancel his weekend in camp David.

    And managed to drive Wagner out of Ukraine at the same time.

    And all while he was sound asleep. What an accomplishment!

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 24 16:20:53 2023
    That awful crunching/screeching/groaning sound is not the gears of
    the universe opening a new vista for human wisdom to take in.

    And managed to drive Wagner out of Ukraine at the same time.
    And all while he was sound asleep. What an accomplishment!

    Your beloved Fuehrer is headed for prison, and Biden will go down as
    the greatest President since FDR. Find some way to commiserate while
    we Humans celebrate.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Fascist Flea on Sat Jun 24 19:27:35 2023
    On 6/24/23 6:20 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
    That awful crunching/screeching/groaning sound is not the gears of
    the universe opening a new vista for human wisdom to take in.

    And managed to drive Wagner out of Ukraine at the same time.
    And all while he was sound asleep. What an accomplishment!

    Your beloved Fuehrer is headed for prison, and Biden will go down as
    the greatest President since FDR. Find some way to commiserate while
    we Humans celebrate.

    I'll choose Dark Brandon over the various super Trumps any day.

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to Trevor Wilson on Sat Jun 24 19:14:07 2023
    Trevor Wilson wrote:

    **On a related matter, Trump must be worried. His best buddy, Putin, is
    in serious trouble. Not only will Trump not receive his customary
    assistance from Putin in the next election, but there is a reasonable
    chance that Putin will be dead and the Ukraine war will be over. So much
    for Trump's claim that he will end the war.

    I saw an interview of Garry Kasparov. He's from Georgia but he opposes
    Putin as much as Navalny does. He predicted that Putin will be gone within
    six months. The vultures are circling.

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  • From Trevor Wilson@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sun Jun 25 11:28:27 2023
    On 24/06/2023 6:01 am, ScottW wrote:
    is still Fubar.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ground-launched-small-diameter-bomb-won-t-make-ukraine-combat-debut-till-fall/ar-AA175pvT

    If Ukraine wants to use cluster munitions on it's own territory to defend itself....I say let them. Instead they'll have to absorb many times the casualties they would have to if given these weapons.

    ScottW

    **On a related matter, Trump must be worried. His best buddy, Putin, is
    in serious trouble. Not only will Trump not receive his customary
    assistance from Putin in the next election, but there is a reasonable
    chance that Putin will be dead and the Ukraine war will be over. So much
    for Trump's claim that he will end the war.


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  • From Trevor Wilson@21:1/5 to Fascist Flea on Sun Jun 25 15:53:47 2023
    On 25/06/2023 12:14 pm, Fascist Flea wrote:
    Trevor Wilson wrote:

    **On a related matter, Trump must be worried. His best buddy, Putin, is
    in serious trouble. Not only will Trump not receive his customary
    assistance from Putin in the next election, but there is a reasonable
    chance that Putin will be dead and the Ukraine war will be over. So much
    for Trump's claim that he will end the war.

    I saw an interview of Garry Kasparov. He's from Georgia but he opposes
    Putin as much as Navalny does. He predicted that Putin will be gone within six months. The vultures are circling.



    **Yep. Putin desperately needs Trump as much as Trump needs Putin. Looks
    like they're both going to implode. Nice.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Trevor Wilson on Sun Jun 25 13:42:31 2023
    On 6/24/23 8:28 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:

    **On a related matter, Trump must be worried. His best buddy, Putin, is
    in serious trouble. Not only will Trump not receive his customary
    assistance from Putin in the next election, but there is a reasonable
    chance that Putin will be dead and the Ukraine war will be over. So much
    for Trump's claim that he will end the war.

    If you're unaware, you may be interested to know Prigozhin is under
    indictment "by a federal grand jury in the United States for interfering
    in the 2016 presidential election through the Internet Research Agency,
    a troll factory that spread falsehoods and waged information warfare in
    support of the campaign of Donald J. Trump." (New York Times)

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 25 18:50:07 2023
    On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 11:42:34 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 6/24/23 8:28 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:

    **On a related matter, Trump must be worried. His best buddy, Putin, is
    in serious trouble. Not only will Trump not receive his customary assistance from Putin in the next election, but there is a reasonable chance that Putin will be dead and the Ukraine war will be over. So much for Trump's claim that he will end the war.
    If you're unaware, you may be interested to know Prigozhin is under indictment "by a federal grand jury in the United States for interfering
    in the 2016 presidential election through the Internet Research Agency,
    a troll factory that spread falsehoods and waged information warfare in support of the campaign of Donald J. Trump." (New York Times)

    Sounds like charges for Hillary.

    But thanks for clusterbombing this thread into oblivion.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Mon Jun 26 09:17:40 2023
    On 6/25/23 8:50 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 11:42:34 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 6/24/23 8:28 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:

    **On a related matter, Trump must be worried. His best buddy, Putin, is
    in serious trouble. Not only will Trump not receive his customary
    assistance from Putin in the next election, but there is a reasonable
    chance that Putin will be dead and the Ukraine war will be over. So much >>> for Trump's claim that he will end the war.
    If you're unaware, you may be interested to know Prigozhin is under
    indictment "by a federal grand jury in the United States for interfering
    in the 2016 presidential election through the Internet Research Agency,
    a troll factory that spread falsehoods and waged information warfare in
    support of the campaign of Donald J. Trump." (New York Times)

    Sounds like charges for Hillary.

    Sounds like someone hasn't read his Mueller. The DoJ press release:

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/grand-jury-indicts-thirteen-russian-individuals-and-three-russian-companies-scheme-interfere

    The indictment:

    https://www.justice.gov/d9/press-releases/attachments/2018/02/16/indictment_russia_0.pdf

    6. Defendant ORGANIZATION had a strategic goal to sow discord in the
    U.S. political system, including the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Defendants posted derogatory information about a number of candidates,
    and by early to mid-2016, Defendants' operations included supporting the presidential campaign of then-candidate Donald J. Trump ("Trump
    Campaign") and disparaging Hillary Clinton. Defendants made various expenditures to carry out those activities, including buying political advertisements on social media in the names of U.S. persons and
    entities. Defendants also staged political rallies inside the United
    States, and while posing as U.S. grassroots entities and U.S. persons,
    and without revealing their Russian identities and ORGANIZATION
    affiliation, solicited and compensated real U.S. persons to promote or disparage candidates. Some Defendants, posing as U.S. persons and
    without revealing their Russian association, communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump Campaign and with other political activists to seek to coordinate political activities.

    But thanks for clusterbombing this thread into oblivion.

    Because it was so concentrated and informative before?

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 26 16:51:56 2023
    On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 7:17:43 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 6/25/23 8:50 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 11:42:34 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 6/24/23 8:28 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:

    **On a related matter, Trump must be worried. His best buddy, Putin, is >>> in serious trouble. Not only will Trump not receive his customary
    assistance from Putin in the next election, but there is a reasonable >>> chance that Putin will be dead and the Ukraine war will be over. So much >>> for Trump's claim that he will end the war.
    If you're unaware, you may be interested to know Prigozhin is under
    indictment "by a federal grand jury in the United States for interfering >> in the 2016 presidential election through the Internet Research Agency, >> a troll factory that spread falsehoods and waged information warfare in >> support of the campaign of Donald J. Trump." (New York Times)

    Sounds like charges for Hillary.
    Sounds like someone hasn't read his Mueller. The DoJ press release:

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/grand-jury-indicts-thirteen-russian-individuals-and-three-russian-companies-scheme-interfere

    The indictment:

    https://www.justice.gov/d9/press-releases/attachments/2018/02/16/indictment_russia_0.pdf

    6. Defendant ORGANIZATION had a strategic goal to sow discord in the
    U.S. political system, including the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

    Check....Hillary did that.

    Defendants posted derogatory information about a number of candidates,

    Check....Hillary did that.

    I could go on but I know this is painful for you.

    ScottW

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 26 20:20:28 2023

    I could go on but I know this is painful for you.

    ScottW

    Al the more reason to go on.
    Why are you letting up on him?

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Tue Jun 27 08:12:12 2023
    On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 8:20:29 PM UTC-7, Art Sackman wrote:

    I could go on but I know this is painful for you.

    ScottW
    Al the more reason to go on.
    Why are you letting up on him?

    No point in wasting more time.
    Stephen lives in an alternate reality where his god can do no wrong.

    ScottW

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 27 08:24:13 2023
    On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 8:16:41 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 6/26/23 6:51 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 7:17:43 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 6/25/23 8:50 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 11:42:34 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 6/24/23 8:28 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:

    **On a related matter, Trump must be worried. His best buddy, Putin, is
    in serious trouble. Not only will Trump not receive his customary >>>>> assistance from Putin in the next election, but there is a reasonable >>>>> chance that Putin will be dead and the Ukraine war will be over. So much
    for Trump's claim that he will end the war.
    If you're unaware, you may be interested to know Prigozhin is under >>>> indictment "by a federal grand jury in the United States for interfering
    in the 2016 presidential election through the Internet Research Agency, >>>> a troll factory that spread falsehoods and waged information warfare in >>>> support of the campaign of Donald J. Trump." (New York Times)

    Sounds like charges for Hillary.
    Sounds like someone hasn't read his Mueller. The DoJ press release:

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/grand-jury-indicts-thirteen-russian-individuals-and-three-russian-companies-scheme-interfere

    The indictment:

    https://www.justice.gov/d9/press-releases/attachments/2018/02/16/indictment_russia_0.pdf

    6. Defendant ORGANIZATION had a strategic goal to sow discord in the
    U.S. political system, including the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

    Check....Hillary did that.
    Only if you define to sow discord as "Hillary ran for President."
    Defendants posted derogatory information about a number of candidates,

    Check....Hillary did that.

    I could go on but I know this is painful for you.
    It's painful to see such lame IKYABWAI reasoning.

    Do this one:

    9. From in or around 2014 to the present, in the District of Columbia
    and elsewhere, Defendants, together with others known and unknown to the Grand Jury, knowingly and intentionally conspired to defraud the United States by impairing, obstructing, and defeating the lawful functions of
    the Federal Election Commission, the U.S. Department of Justice, and the U.S. Department of State in administering federal requirements for disclosure of foreign involvement in certain domestic activities.

    Check....Hunter Biden did that.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Tue Jun 27 10:16:39 2023
    On 6/26/23 6:51 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 7:17:43 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 6/25/23 8:50 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 11:42:34 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 6/24/23 8:28 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:

    **On a related matter, Trump must be worried. His best buddy, Putin, is >>>>> in serious trouble. Not only will Trump not receive his customary
    assistance from Putin in the next election, but there is a reasonable >>>>> chance that Putin will be dead and the Ukraine war will be over. So much >>>>> for Trump's claim that he will end the war.
    If you're unaware, you may be interested to know Prigozhin is under
    indictment "by a federal grand jury in the United States for interfering >>>> in the 2016 presidential election through the Internet Research Agency, >>>> a troll factory that spread falsehoods and waged information warfare in >>>> support of the campaign of Donald J. Trump." (New York Times)

    Sounds like charges for Hillary.
    Sounds like someone hasn't read his Mueller. The DoJ press release:

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/grand-jury-indicts-thirteen-russian-individuals-and-three-russian-companies-scheme-interfere

    The indictment:

    https://www.justice.gov/d9/press-releases/attachments/2018/02/16/indictment_russia_0.pdf

    6. Defendant ORGANIZATION had a strategic goal to sow discord in the
    U.S. political system, including the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

    Check....Hillary did that.

    Only if you define to sow discord as "Hillary ran for President."

    Defendants posted derogatory information about a number of candidates,

    Check....Hillary did that.

    I could go on but I know this is painful for you.

    It's painful to see such lame IKYABWAI reasoning.

    Do this one:

    9. From in or around 2014 to the present, in the District of Columbia
    and elsewhere, Defendants, together with others known and unknown to the
    Grand Jury, knowingly and intentionally conspired to defraud the United
    States by impairing, obstructing, and defeating the lawful functions of
    the Federal Election Commission, the U.S. Department of Justice, and the
    U.S. Department of State in administering federal requirements for
    disclosure of foreign involvement in certain domestic activities.

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