• Netherlands Employs Cutting Edge Treatment for Transgenders

    From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 28 18:03:51 2023
    Haha! I bet you though I was going to talk about chopping off dicks and titties.

    No No! it's much better then that, it's actually killing them.
    Yes! Euthanasia for Transsexuals.

    The Netherlands has been euthanizing people for some time now.
    A study has shown that an unusually high number of them have
    been identified as intellectually impaired or autistic.
    Among the autistic, specific reasons for requesting euthanasia included maladjustment, lack of friends, unhappiness with one's social life. This
    group of people were relatively young,
    Hmm That sounds a lot like the life of a young transgender.

    Oh! and look at this! There is a high rate of overlap between autism and transgenders, Looks likely that some of these euthanasia enthusiasts were transgender. Looks like the Netherlands might have been offing TG's!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_and_LGBT_identities

    and here are articles about this study

    FOX News (horrors, Steve better run to his closest hidey-hole) and the
    MSM AP. Hooboy Steve, you can't hide from that one.

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/netherlands-euthanizing-autistic-intellectually-handicapped-people-researcher-finds

    https://apnews.com/article/euthanasia-autism-intellectual-disabilities-netherlands-b5c4906d0305dd97e16da363575c03ae

    So here is my proposal. Let's do that here in the good ole' USA. Offer TG's the option of euthanasia treatment. With counseling to help them on their way.
    And let's offer it to TG minors, naturally and of course, without parent consent. Just like we do with other TG treatments,.. its none of the parents business
    And put literature in public school libraries supporting this innovative treatment, and incorporate it into public school curriculums.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Thu Jun 29 09:11:38 2023
    On 6/28/23 8:03 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    Haha! I bet you though I was going to talk about chopping

    Idee fixe: In psychology, an idée fixe is a preoccupation of mind
    believed to be firmly resistant to any attempt to modify it, a fixation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castration_anxiety

    Castration anxiety is the fear of emasculation in both the literal and metaphorical sense. Castration anxiety is an overwhelming fear of damage
    to, or loss of, the penis—a derivative of Sigmund Freud's theory of the castration complex, one of his earliest psychoanalytic theories.[1]
    Although Freud regarded castration anxiety as a universal human
    experience, few empirical studies have been conducted on the topic. It
    has been theorized that castration anxiety begins between the ages of 3
    and 5, otherwise known as the phallic stage of development according to Freud.[2] In Freud's theory it is the child's perception of anatomical difference (the possession of a penis) that induces castration anxiety
    as a result of an assumed paternal threat made in response to their
    sexual activities. Although typically associated with males, castration
    anxiety is theorized to be experienced in differing ways for both the
    male and female sexes

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 29 12:26:13 2023
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 10:11:41 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 6/28/23 8:03 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    Haha! I bet you though I was going to talk about chopping
    Idee fixe: In psychology, an idée fixe is a preoccupation of mind
    believed to be firmly resistant to any attempt to modify it, a fixation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castration_anxiety

    Castration anxiety is the fear of emasculation in both the literal and metaphorical sense. Castration anxiety is an overwhelming fear of damage
    to, or loss of, the penis—a derivative of Sigmund Freud's theory of the castration complex, one of his earliest psychoanalytic theories.[1]
    Although Freud regarded castration anxiety as a universal human
    experience, few empirical studies have been conducted on the topic. It
    has been theorized that castration anxiety begins between the ages of 3
    and 5, otherwise known as the phallic stage of development according to Freud.[2] In Freud's theory it is the child's perception of anatomical difference (the possession of a penis) that induces castration anxiety
    as a result of an assumed paternal threat made in response to their
    sexual activities. Although typically associated with males, castration anxiety is theorized to be experienced in differing ways for both the
    male and female sexes

    You have NO anxiety over chopping off kiddies dicks, nor slicing off their breasts.
    You are one sick motherfucker.

    It is NORMAL for an adult to be concerned about your hideous and immoral agenda.

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 29 12:50:00 2023
    The Sack-Shmoo restarts its rampage engine.

    You have NO anxiety over chopping off kiddies dicks, nor slicing off their breasts.
    You are one sick motherfucker.
    It is NORMAL for an adult to be concerned about your hideous and immoral agenda.

    I have to wonder if this is another of your "jokes". Even a demented, half-blind MAGA-droid like you should realize this raving is insane.

    Time to confess, Sacktard. Assure us you're just trolling, that you don't actually believe any of this loony bloviating.

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  • From Trevor Wilson@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Fri Jun 30 09:27:01 2023
    On 29/06/2023 11:03 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    Haha! I bet you though I was going to talk about chopping off dicks and titties.

    No No! it's much better then that, it's actually killing them.
    Yes! Euthanasia for Transsexuals.


    **10,000 Americans are murdered via gunshot each year. And you waste
    your time over spurious issues. What the fuck is wrong with you? Even
    worse, you vote for the very same politicians who not only refuse to
    toughen gun control laws, but those same politicians seek to weaken them.


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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to Trevor Wilson on Thu Jun 29 16:30:52 2023
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 7:27:03 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 29/06/2023 11:03 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    Haha! I bet you though I was going to talk about chopping off dicks and titties.

    No No! it's much better then that, it's actually killing them.
    Yes! Euthanasia for Transsexuals.

    **10,000 Americans are murdered via gunshot each year. And you waste
    your time over spurious issues. What the fuck is wrong with you? Even
    worse, you vote for the very same politicians who not only refuse to
    toughen gun control laws, but those same politicians seek to weaken them.


    I'm all in against Murderers. Lock them up and never let them out,
    I trust you are with me on that, since you care so much about the victms.

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  • From Trevor Wilson@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Fri Jun 30 09:28:59 2023
    On 30/06/2023 5:26 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 10:11:41 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 6/28/23 8:03 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    Haha! I bet you though I was going to talk about chopping
    Idee fixe: In psychology, an idée fixe is a preoccupation of mind
    believed to be firmly resistant to any attempt to modify it, a fixation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castration_anxiety

    Castration anxiety is the fear of emasculation in both the literal and
    metaphorical sense. Castration anxiety is an overwhelming fear of damage
    to, or loss of, the penis—a derivative of Sigmund Freud's theory of the
    castration complex, one of his earliest psychoanalytic theories.[1]
    Although Freud regarded castration anxiety as a universal human
    experience, few empirical studies have been conducted on the topic. It
    has been theorized that castration anxiety begins between the ages of 3
    and 5, otherwise known as the phallic stage of development according to
    Freud.[2] In Freud's theory it is the child's perception of anatomical
    difference (the possession of a penis) that induces castration anxiety
    as a result of an assumed paternal threat made in response to their
    sexual activities. Although typically associated with males, castration
    anxiety is theorized to be experienced in differing ways for both the
    male and female sexes

    You have NO anxiety over chopping off kiddies dicks, nor slicing off their breasts.
    You are one sick motherfucker.

    It is NORMAL for an adult to be concerned about your hideous and immoral agenda.

    **It is normal to be concerned about the 10,000 Americans who are
    murdered via gunshot each year. You, apparently, are unconcerned about
    such things, as exemplified by your continued support of politicians who
    act on behalf of the firearms industry and the NRA.

    Grow a pair you fucking idiot.

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 29 16:35:41 2023
    And now, some Deep Thoughts from Sack-o-Shmoo.

    **10,000 Americans are murdered via gunshot each year. And you waste
    your time over spurious issues. What the fuck is wrong with you? Even worse, you vote for the very same politicians who not only refuse to toughen gun control laws, but those same politicians seek to weaken them.

    I'm all in against Murderers. Lock them up and never let them out,
    I trust you are with me on that, since you care so much about the victms.

    Mainly victims who face their fears, which lets you off the hook.

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  • From Trevor Wilson@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Fri Jun 30 13:52:15 2023
    On 30/06/2023 9:30 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 7:27:03 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 29/06/2023 11:03 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    Haha! I bet you though I was going to talk about chopping off dicks and titties.

    No No! it's much better then that, it's actually killing them.
    Yes! Euthanasia for Transsexuals.

    **10,000 Americans are murdered via gunshot each year. And you waste
    your time over spurious issues. What the fuck is wrong with you? Even
    worse, you vote for the very same politicians who not only refuse to
    toughen gun control laws, but those same politicians seek to weaken them.


    I'm all in against Murderers.

    **Then why not make as difficult as possible for violent people to
    access firearms?

    Lock them up and never let them out,
    I trust you are with me on that, since you care so much about the victms.

    **Unlike you, I DO care about victims. Which is why I advocate tough,
    sane gun control laws. It's a pity you don't give a shit about the
    10,000 dead Americans, murdered via gunshot each year.


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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Fri Jun 30 08:25:35 2023
    On 6/29/23 2:26 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 10:11:41 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 6/28/23 8:03 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    Haha! I bet you though I was going to talk about chopping
    Idee fixe: In psychology, an idée fixe is a preoccupation of mind
    believed to be firmly resistant to any attempt to modify it, a fixation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castration_anxiety


    You have NO anxiety over chopping off kiddies dicks, nor slicing off their breasts.

    You have enough for all of us and then some.

    You are one sick motherfucker.

    It is NORMAL for an adult to be concerned about your hideous and immoral agenda.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_panic

    "A moral panic is a widespread feeling of fear, often an irrational one,
    that some evil person or thing threatens the values, interests, or
    well-being of a community or society. It is "the process of arousing
    social concern over an issue", usually perpetuated by moral
    entrepreneurs and mass media coverage, and exacerbated by politicians
    and lawmakers."

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 30 07:13:13 2023
    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 9:25:37 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 6/29/23 2:26 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 10:11:41 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 6/28/23 8:03 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    Haha! I bet you though I was going to talk about chopping
    Idee fixe: In psychology, an idée fixe is a preoccupation of mind
    believed to be firmly resistant to any attempt to modify it, a fixation. >>
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castration_anxiety


    You have NO anxiety over chopping off kiddies dicks, nor slicing off their breasts.
    You have enough for all of us and then some.
    You are one sick motherfucker.

    It is NORMAL for an adult to be concerned about your hideous and immoral agenda.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_panic

    "A moral panic is a widespread feeling of fear, often an irrational one, that some evil person or thing threatens the values, interests, or well-being of a community or society. It is "the process of arousing
    social concern over an issue", usually perpetuated by moral
    entrepreneurs and mass media coverage, and exacerbated by politicians
    and lawmakers."

    My so called "moral panic" of removal of sexual organs of children
    is quite rational and normal and certainly a whole lot more rational than your "moral panic" of
    following blind links.

    These surgeries do occur and they are not right. They are life altering and they
    are permanent. And they are performed on children who do not have the maturity to
    competently make such a decision. It is not a fear to oppose them, it is the real., right,
    and moral ting to do. Especially considering that gender is fluid and can change over time.
    the effects of these surgeries are permanent.

    Open your mind, erase your fears, Please read, even though the media might be NY Post or Fox.
    See what they have to say, consider the other side. Get out from under your "moral panic"
    https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-transyouth-outcomes/

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/uk-girl-who-detransitioned-after-transgender-surgery-says-she-feels-like-a-mutilated-experiment-gone-wrong/ar-AA1cOlQu

    https://nypost.com/2023/06/20/kids-shouldnt-undergo-irreversible-gender-transition-surgeries/

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to Trevor Wilson on Fri Jun 30 07:15:23 2023
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 11:52:16 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 30/06/2023 9:30 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 7:27:03 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 29/06/2023 11:03 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    Haha! I bet you though I was going to talk about chopping off dicks and titties.

    No No! it's much better then that, it's actually killing them.
    Yes! Euthanasia for Transsexuals.

    **10,000 Americans are murdered via gunshot each year. And you waste
    your time over spurious issues. What the fuck is wrong with you? Even
    worse, you vote for the very same politicians who not only refuse to
    toughen gun control laws, but those same politicians seek to weaken them. >>

    I'm all in against Murderers.
    **Then why not make as difficult as possible for violent people to
    access firearms?
    Lock them up and never let them out,
    I trust you are with me on that, since you care so much about the victms.
    **Unlike you, I DO care about victims. Which is why I advocate tough,
    sane gun control laws. It's a pity you don't give a shit about the
    10,000 dead Americans, murdered via gunshot each year.
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    You don't give a shit about them because you support soft on crime Democrats Locking up criminals works.
    Chasing after 350 million guns is a fool's errand.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Fri Jun 30 09:37:23 2023
    On 6/30/23 9:13 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 9:25:37 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 6/29/23 2:26 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 10:11:41 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 6/28/23 8:03 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    Haha! I bet you though I was going to talk about chopping
    Idee fixe: In psychology, an idée fixe is a preoccupation of
    mind believed to be firmly resistant to any attempt to modify
    it, a fixation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castration_anxiety


    You have NO anxiety over chopping off kiddies dicks, nor slicing
    off their breasts.
    You have enough for all of us and then some.
    You are one sick motherfucker.

    It is NORMAL for an adult to be concerned about your hideous and
    immoral agenda.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_panic

    "A moral panic is a widespread feeling of fear, often an
    irrational one, that some evil person or thing threatens the
    values, interests, or well-being of a community or society. It is
    "the process of arousing social concern over an issue", usually
    perpetuated by moral entrepreneurs and mass media coverage, and
    exacerbated by politicians and lawmakers."

    My so called "moral panic" of removal of sexual organs of children
    is quite rational and normal and certainly a whole lot more rational
    than your "moral panic" of following blind links.

    It's irrational because of the extreme rarity of gender assignment
    surgery for minors and because of your disregard for the realities of transgenderism.

    These surgeries do occur and they are not right.

    Rarely. Maybe dozens out of hundreds of thousands of transgender minors
    and some of those are due to other medical conditions such as intersex conditions.

    When you start a crusade against nose jobs and breast implants, get back
    to me.

    They are life altering and they are permanent. And they are performed
    on children who do not have the maturity to competently make such a
    decision. It is not a fear to oppose them, it is the real., right,
    and moral ting to do. Especially considering that gender is fluid and
    can change over time. the effects of these surgeries are permanent.

    Bad outcomes are also extremely rare whereas the benefits are life-long.

    Open your mind, erase your fears, Please read, even though the media
    might be NY Post or Fox. See what they have to say, consider the
    other side. Get out from under your "moral panic" https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-transyouth-outcomes/

    McKinnon:

    https://slate.com/human-interest/2023/01/trans-detransition-facts-research-study-atlantic.html

    https://www.assignedmedia.org/breaking-news/atlantic-article-misleads-about-detransition

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/uk-girl-who-detransitioned-after-transgender-surgery-says-she-feels-like-a-mutilated-experiment-gone-wrong/ar-AA1cOlQu

    Sad for her, but she's an outlier.

    https://nypost.com/2023/06/20/kids-shouldnt-undergo-irreversible-gender-transition-surgeries/

    They mostly don't.

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  • From Trevor Wilson@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Sat Jul 1 08:32:29 2023
    On 1/07/2023 12:15 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 11:52:16 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 30/06/2023 9:30 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 7:27:03 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 29/06/2023 11:03 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    Haha! I bet you though I was going to talk about chopping off dicks and titties.

    No No! it's much better then that, it's actually killing them.
    Yes! Euthanasia for Transsexuals.

    **10,000 Americans are murdered via gunshot each year. And you waste
    your time over spurious issues. What the fuck is wrong with you? Even
    worse, you vote for the very same politicians who not only refuse to
    toughen gun control laws, but those same politicians seek to weaken them. >>>>

    I'm all in against Murderers.
    **Then why not make as difficult as possible for violent people to
    access firearms?
    Lock them up and never let them out,
    I trust you are with me on that, since you care so much about the victms. >> **Unlike you, I DO care about victims. Which is why I advocate tough,
    sane gun control laws. It's a pity you don't give a shit about the
    10,000 dead Americans, murdered via gunshot each year.
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    You don't give a shit about them because you support soft on crime Democrats

    **I support any politician who advocates tough, sane gun control laws. Republican politicians act on behalf of the firearms industry and the
    NRA, by making gun laws weaker.

    Locking up criminals works.

    **You'd think so. However, despite the fact that the US has the largest
    prison population on the planet, it suffers huge numbers of Americans
    who are murdered via gunshot each and every year. Clearly, locking up
    people is not enough to stop the murders.

    Chasing after 350 million guns is a fool's errand.

    **How is making it easier for violent people to buy firearms good public policy?

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to Trevor Wilson on Fri Jun 30 18:37:51 2023
    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 6:32:31 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 1/07/2023 12:15 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 11:52:16 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 30/06/2023 9:30 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 7:27:03 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 29/06/2023 11:03 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    Haha! I bet you though I was going to talk about chopping off dicks and titties.

    No No! it's much better then that, it's actually killing them.
    Yes! Euthanasia for Transsexuals.

    **10,000 Americans are murdered via gunshot each year. And you waste >>>> your time over spurious issues. What the fuck is wrong with you? Even >>>> worse, you vote for the very same politicians who not only refuse to >>>> toughen gun control laws, but those same politicians seek to weaken them.


    I'm all in against Murderers.
    **Then why not make as difficult as possible for violent people to
    access firearms?
    Lock them up and never let them out,
    I trust you are with me on that, since you care so much about the victms.
    **Unlike you, I DO care about victims. Which is why I advocate tough,
    sane gun control laws. It's a pity you don't give a shit about the
    10,000 dead Americans, murdered via gunshot each year.
    --
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    You don't give a shit about them because you support soft on crime Democrats
    **I support any politician who advocates tough, sane gun control laws. Republican politicians act on behalf of the firearms industry and the
    NRA, by making gun laws weaker.

    Locking up criminals works.

    **You'd think so. However, despite the fact that the US has the largest prison population on the planet, it suffers huge numbers of Americans
    who are murdered via gunshot each and every year. Clearly, locking up
    people is not enough to stop the murders.
    Chasing after 350 million guns is a fool's errand.
    **How is making it easier for violent people to buy firearms good public policy?

    There are 35,000 guns already on the streets per one murder.
    your proposed solution is completely useless.
    Just because we have both a lot of violent crime and a lot of people in jail, there is no logical connection that says that putting criminals in
    ail is not effective. If we had fewer criminals in jail, we would have MORE crime,
    if we put more criminals in jail we will have LESS crime.

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  • From Trevor Wilson@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Sat Jul 1 11:56:28 2023
    On 1/07/2023 11:37 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 6:32:31 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 1/07/2023 12:15 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 11:52:16 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 30/06/2023 9:30 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 7:27:03 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>> On 29/06/2023 11:03 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    Haha! I bet you though I was going to talk about chopping off dicks and titties.

    No No! it's much better then that, it's actually killing them.
    Yes! Euthanasia for Transsexuals.

    **10,000 Americans are murdered via gunshot each year. And you waste >>>>>> your time over spurious issues. What the fuck is wrong with you? Even >>>>>> worse, you vote for the very same politicians who not only refuse to >>>>>> toughen gun control laws, but those same politicians seek to weaken them.


    I'm all in against Murderers.
    **Then why not make as difficult as possible for violent people to
    access firearms?
    Lock them up and never let them out,
    I trust you are with me on that, since you care so much about the victms. >>>> **Unlike you, I DO care about victims. Which is why I advocate tough,
    sane gun control laws. It's a pity you don't give a shit about the
    10,000 dead Americans, murdered via gunshot each year.
    --
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    www.avast.com

    You don't give a shit about them because you support soft on crime Democrats
    **I support any politician who advocates tough, sane gun control laws.
    Republican politicians act on behalf of the firearms industry and the
    NRA, by making gun laws weaker.

    Locking up criminals works.

    **You'd think so. However, despite the fact that the US has the largest
    prison population on the planet, it suffers huge numbers of Americans
    who are murdered via gunshot each and every year. Clearly, locking up
    people is not enough to stop the murders.
    Chasing after 350 million guns is a fool's errand.
    **How is making it easier for violent people to buy firearms good public
    policy?

    There are 35,000 guns already on the streets per one murder.

    **Perhaps you missed my question:

    How is making it easier for violent people to buy firearms good public
    policy?

    your proposed solution is completely useless.

    **Prove it. In your proof, show where it has been done. You may use
    Australia's experience if you wish.

    Just because we have both a lot of violent crime and a lot of people in jail, there is no logical connection that says that putting criminals in
    ail is not effective.

    **Here is your claim:

    "Locking up criminals works."

    I will say once more: The US has the largest prison population on the
    planet. It still has lots of murders, via gunshot. Lots and lots. TWENTY
    TIMES the number, compared to Australia. Locking people up may be PART
    of the solution. It is clearly not the whole solution.


    If we had fewer criminals in jail, we would have MORE crime,
    if we put more criminals in jail we will have LESS crime.

    **And yet, you don't. You have MORE murders via gunshot than any
    Western, developed nation. By a very considerable margin. Maybe, just
    maybe, gun laws are the problem.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Fri Jun 30 19:55:48 2023
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 4:30:54 PM UTC-7, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 7:27:03 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 29/06/2023 11:03 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    Haha! I bet you though I was going to talk about chopping off dicks and titties.

    No No! it's much better then that, it's actually killing them.
    Yes! Euthanasia for Transsexuals.

    **10,000 Americans are murdered via gunshot each year. And you waste
    your time over spurious issues. What the fuck is wrong with you? Even worse, you vote for the very same politicians who not only refuse to toughen gun control laws, but those same politicians seek to weaken them.

    I'm all in against Murderers. Lock them up and never let them out,
    I trust you are with me on that, since you care so much about the victms.

    Can't we go back to good 'ol days....where we just shipped 'em off to Australia?

    ScottW

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to Trevor Wilson on Fri Jun 30 19:59:47 2023
    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 3:32:31 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 1/07/2023 12:15 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 11:52:16 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 30/06/2023 9:30 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 7:27:03 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 29/06/2023 11:03 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    Haha! I bet you though I was going to talk about chopping off dicks and titties.

    No No! it's much better then that, it's actually killing them.
    Yes! Euthanasia for Transsexuals.

    **10,000 Americans are murdered via gunshot each year. And you waste >>>> your time over spurious issues. What the fuck is wrong with you? Even >>>> worse, you vote for the very same politicians who not only refuse to >>>> toughen gun control laws, but those same politicians seek to weaken them.


    I'm all in against Murderers.
    **Then why not make as difficult as possible for violent people to
    access firearms?
    Lock them up and never let them out,
    I trust you are with me on that, since you care so much about the victms.
    **Unlike you, I DO care about victims. Which is why I advocate tough,
    sane gun control laws. It's a pity you don't give a shit about the
    10,000 dead Americans, murdered via gunshot each year.
    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
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    You don't give a shit about them because you support soft on crime Democrats
    **I support any politician who advocates tough, sane gun control laws.

    Hmmm, the big deal of the Mueller debacle was issuing a bunch of indictments of
    Russians for foreign meddling in our elections.

    Now Trevor has confessed to the same.

    ScottW

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  • From Trevor Wilson@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Jul 1 13:45:13 2023
    On 1/07/2023 12:55 pm, ScottW wrote:
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 4:30:54 PM UTC-7, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 7:27:03 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 29/06/2023 11:03 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    Haha! I bet you though I was going to talk about chopping off dicks and titties.

    No No! it's much better then that, it's actually killing them.
    Yes! Euthanasia for Transsexuals.

    **10,000 Americans are murdered via gunshot each year. And you waste
    your time over spurious issues. What the fuck is wrong with you? Even
    worse, you vote for the very same politicians who not only refuse to
    toughen gun control laws, but those same politicians seek to weaken them. >>>
    I'm all in against Murderers. Lock them up and never let them out,
    I trust you are with me on that, since you care so much about the victms.

    Can't we go back to good 'ol days....where we just shipped 'em off to Australia?

    ScottW

    **Except that you did nothing of the kind.


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  • From Trevor Wilson@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Jul 1 13:46:50 2023
    On 1/07/2023 12:59 pm, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 3:32:31 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 1/07/2023 12:15 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 11:52:16 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 30/06/2023 9:30 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 7:27:03 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>> On 29/06/2023 11:03 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    Haha! I bet you though I was going to talk about chopping off dicks and titties.

    No No! it's much better then that, it's actually killing them.
    Yes! Euthanasia for Transsexuals.

    **10,000 Americans are murdered via gunshot each year. And you waste >>>>>> your time over spurious issues. What the fuck is wrong with you? Even >>>>>> worse, you vote for the very same politicians who not only refuse to >>>>>> toughen gun control laws, but those same politicians seek to weaken them.


    I'm all in against Murderers.
    **Then why not make as difficult as possible for violent people to
    access firearms?
    Lock them up and never let them out,
    I trust you are with me on that, since you care so much about the victms. >>>> **Unlike you, I DO care about victims. Which is why I advocate tough,
    sane gun control laws. It's a pity you don't give a shit about the
    10,000 dead Americans, murdered via gunshot each year.
    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
    www.avast.com

    You don't give a shit about them because you support soft on crime Democrats
    **I support any politician who advocates tough, sane gun control laws.

    Hmmm, the big deal of the Mueller debacle was issuing a bunch of indictments of
    Russians for foreign meddling in our elections.

    Now Trevor has confessed to the same.

    ScottW

    **Only in your twisted view of the world, would you equate the murder of
    10,000 Americans each and every year, with the Russian election meddling.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to Trevor Wilson on Fri Jun 30 20:55:36 2023
    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 8:46:52 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 1/07/2023 12:59 pm, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 3:32:31 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 1/07/2023 12:15 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 11:52:16 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 30/06/2023 9:30 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 7:27:03 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>> On 29/06/2023 11:03 am, Art Sackman wrote:
    Haha! I bet you though I was going to talk about chopping off dicks and titties.

    No No! it's much better then that, it's actually killing them. >>>>>>> Yes! Euthanasia for Transsexuals.

    **10,000 Americans are murdered via gunshot each year. And you waste >>>>>> your time over spurious issues. What the fuck is wrong with you? Even >>>>>> worse, you vote for the very same politicians who not only refuse to >>>>>> toughen gun control laws, but those same politicians seek to weaken them.


    I'm all in against Murderers.
    **Then why not make as difficult as possible for violent people to
    access firearms?
    Lock them up and never let them out,
    I trust you are with me on that, since you care so much about the victms.
    **Unlike you, I DO care about victims. Which is why I advocate tough, >>>> sane gun control laws. It's a pity you don't give a shit about the
    10,000 dead Americans, murdered via gunshot each year.
    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>> www.avast.com

    You don't give a shit about them because you support soft on crime Democrats
    **I support any politician who advocates tough, sane gun control laws.

    Hmmm, the big deal of the Mueller debacle was issuing a bunch of indictments of
    Russians for foreign meddling in our elections.

    Now Trevor has confessed to the same.

    ScottW
    **Only in your twisted view of the world, would you equate the murder of 10,000 Americans each and every year, with the Russian election meddling.

    I'm sorry the poor murdered Americans have an advocate so inept, ignorant, and incompetent as you trying to influence elections.
    They're doomed....and it's your failure to blame.
    Now that's twisted done right.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Jul 1 07:31:04 2023
    On 6/30/23 9:59 PM, ScottW wrote:

    Hmmm, the big deal of the Mueller debacle was issuing a bunch of indictments of
    Russians for foreign meddling in our elections.

    The indictments were much more specific than "meddling."

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 1 08:16:21 2023
    On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 5:31:07 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 6/30/23 9:59 PM, ScottW wrote:

    Hmmm, the big deal of the Mueller debacle was issuing a bunch of indictments of
    Russians for foreign meddling in our elections.
    The indictments were much more specific than "meddling."

    Are you claiming Trevor's incompetence absolves him?

    You may have a point.

    ScottW

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