https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/no-to-the-soviet-politburo-wasserman-schultz-leads-dem-effort-to-stop-rfk-jr-degradation-in-chaotic-house-hearing-vote/ar-AA1e7Zs0
and her "questioning of the witness is worse.
She's the epitome of censorship.
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/no-to-the-soviet-politburo-wasserman-schultz-leads-dem-effort-to-stop-rfk-jr-degradation-in-chaotic-house-hearing-vote/ar-AA1e7Zs0
and her "questioning of the witness is worse.
She's the epitome of censorship.
I'll give her credit for signing the letter blasting Jayapal's antisemitism.
However, RFK, Jr's comment was not antisemitic, when taken in
proper context. He said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and that it
was lab created, and that this showed that it is possible that labs can purposefully create future diseases that would target select ethnicities.
purposefully create future diseases that would target select ethnicities.Yes, it was simply and obviously false.
On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/no-to-the-soviet-politburo-wasserman-schultz-leads-dem-effort-to-stop-rfk-jr-degradation-in-chaotic-house-hearing-vote/ar-AA1e7Zs0
and her "questioning of the witness is worse.
She's the epitome of censorship.
I'll give her credit for signing the letter blasting Jayapal's antisemitism.
However, RFK, Jr's comment was not antisemitic, when taken inYes, it was simply and obviously false.
proper context. He said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and that it was lab created, and that this showed that it is possible that labs can purposefully create future diseases that would target select ethnicities.
On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/no-to-the-soviet-politburo-wasserman-schultz-leads-dem-effort-to-stop-rfk-jr-degradation-in-chaotic-house-hearing-vote/ar-AA1e7Zs0
and her "questioning of the witness is worse.
She's the epitome of censorship.
I'll give her credit for signing the letter blasting Jayapal's antisemitism.
However, RFK, Jr's comment was not antisemitic, when taken inYes, it was simply and obviously false.
proper context. He said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and that it was lab created, and that this showed that it is possible that labs can purposefully create future diseases that would target select ethnicities.
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 12:24:22 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:s Liberation Army general Zhang Shibo authored a book that concluded that "modern biotechnology development is gradually showing strong signs characteristic of an offensive capability," including "specific ethnic genetic attacks" (特定种族基因攻击
On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/no-to-the-soviet-politburo-wasserman-schultz-leads-dem-effort-to-stop-rfk-jr-degradation-in-chaotic-house-hearing-vote/ar-AA1e7Zs0
and her "questioning of the witness is worse.
She's the epitome of censorship.
I'll give her credit for signing the letter blasting Jayapal's antisemitism.
What? That labs CAN create ethnically targeted diseases?However, RFK, Jr's comment was not antisemitic, when taken inYes, it was simply and obviously false.
proper context. He said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and that it was lab created, and that this showed that it is possible that labs can purposefully create future diseases that would target select ethnicities.
In 2017, a textbook published by the People's Liberation Army National Defence University called the Science of Military Strategy debuted the potential for biological warfare to include "specific ethnic genetic attacks."[9] The same year, former People'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_bioweapon
Kennedy never said covid was engineered to be ethnically specific in it's targeting, only that it does have significant ethnic variance in outcome of infection which is true.
What I really find amazing is why so many people want to lie about what he said to smear him.
ScottW
Anything to protect Dementia Joe.
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 12:24:22 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:and her "questioning of the witness is worse.
On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/no-to-the-soviet-politburo-wasserman-schultz-leads-dem-effort-to-stop-rfk-jr-degradation-in-chaotic-house-hearing-vote/ar-AA1e7Zs0
Yes, it was simply and obviously false.
She's the epitome of censorship.
I'll give her credit for signing the letter blasting Jayapal's
antisemitism.
However, RFK, Jr's comment was not antisemitic, when taken in
proper context. He said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and
that it was lab created, and that this showed that it is possible
that labs can purposefully create future diseases that would
target select ethnicities.
What? That labs CAN create ethnically targeted diseases?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_bioweapon
Kennedy never said covid was engineered to be ethnically specific in
it's targeting, only that it does have significant ethnic variance in
outcome of infection which is true.
What I really find amazing is why so many people want to lie about
what he said to smear him.
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:24:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/no-to-the-soviet-politburo-wasserman-schultz-leads-dem-effort-to-stop-rfk-jr-degradation-in-chaotic-house-hearing-vote/ar-AA1e7Zs0
and her "questioning of the witness is worse.
She's the epitome of censorship.
I'll give her credit for signing the letter blasting Jayapal's antisemitism.
However, RFK, Jr's comment was not antisemitic, when taken in
proper context. He said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and that it
was lab created, and that this showed that it is possible that labs can
purposefully create future diseases that would target select ethnicities. >> Yes, it was simply and obviously false.
No I never said it was false.
It might be true.
And what he actually said was not antisemitic.
The left is just "reimagining" his words in a way he never said them
On 7/20/23 6:09 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 12:24:22 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:and her "questioning of the witness is worse.
On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/no-to-the-soviet-politburo-wasserman-schultz-leads-dem-effort-to-stop-rfk-jr-degradation-in-chaotic-house-hearing-vote/ar-AA1e7Zs0
Yes, it was simply and obviously false.
She's the epitome of censorship.
I'll give her credit for signing the letter blasting Jayapal's
antisemitism.
However, RFK, Jr's comment was not antisemitic, when taken in
proper context. He said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and
that it was lab created, and that this showed that it is possible
that labs can purposefully create future diseases that would
target select ethnicities.
What? That labs CAN create ethnically targeted diseases?<snip>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_bioweapon
Kennedy never said covid was engineered to be ethnically specific inNot if controlled for other factors.
it's targeting, only that it does have significant ethnic variance in outcome of infection which is true.
What I really find amazing is why so many people want to lie aboutWhen his words are all it takes.
what he said to smear him.
On 7/20/23 8:17 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:24:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:Yes, it was simply and obviously false.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/no-to-the-soviet-politburo-wasserman-schultz-leads-dem-effort-to-stop-rfk-jr-degradation-in-chaotic-house-hearing-vote/ar-AA1e7Zs0
and her "questioning of the witness is worse.
She's the epitome of censorship.
I'll give her credit for signing the letter blasting Jayapal's antisemitism.
However, RFK, Jr's comment was not antisemitic, when taken in
proper context. He said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and that it >>> was lab created, and that this showed that it is possible that labs can >>> purposefully create future diseases that would target select ethnicities.
No I never said it was false.Might, but isn't.
It might be true.
And what he actually said was not antisemitic.When world conspiracies are said to favor Jews, that's antisemitic.
The left is just "reimagining" his words in a way he never said themLies on lies.
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 7:25:12 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/20/23 6:09 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 12:24:22 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:and her "questioning of the witness is worse.
On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/no-to-the-soviet-politburo-wasserman-schultz-leads-dem-effort-to-stop-rfk-jr-degradation-in-chaotic-house-hearing-vote/ar-AA1e7Zs0
<snip>Yes, it was simply and obviously false.
She's the epitome of censorship.
I'll give her credit for signing the letter blasting Jayapal's
antisemitism.
However, RFK, Jr's comment was not antisemitic, when taken in
proper context. He said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and
that it was lab created, and that this showed that it is possible
that labs can purposefully create future diseases that would
target select ethnicities.
What? That labs CAN create ethnically targeted diseases?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_bioweaponNot if controlled for other factors.
Kennedy never said covid was engineered to be ethnically specific in
it's targeting, only that it does have significant ethnic variance in
outcome of infection which is true.
Pure speculation as you have no "control" over other factors.
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/20/23 8:17 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:24:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Might, but isn't.
On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/no-to-the-soviet-politburo-wasserman-schultz-leads-dem-effort-to-stop-rfk-jr-degradation-in-chaotic-house-hearing-vote/ar-AA1e7Zs0
and her "questioning of the witness is worse.
She's the epitome of censorship.
I'll give her credit for signing the letter blasting Jayapal's antisemitism.
However, RFK, Jr's comment was not antisemitic, when taken in
proper context. He said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and that it >>>>> was lab created, and that this showed that it is possible that labs can >>>>> purposefully create future diseases that would target select ethnicities. >>>> Yes, it was simply and obviously false.
No I never said it was false.
It might be true.
And what he actually said was not antisemitic.When world conspiracies are said to favor Jews, that's antisemitic.
when it attacks Jews, it's antisemitic.
On 7/21/23 11:02 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/20/23 8:17 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:24:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Might, but isn't.
On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:Yes, it was simply and obviously false.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/no-to-the-soviet-politburo-wasserman-schultz-leads-dem-effort-to-stop-rfk-jr-degradation-in-chaotic-house-hearing-vote/ar-AA1e7Zs0
and her "questioning of the witness is worse.
She's the epitome of censorship.
I'll give her credit for signing the letter blasting Jayapal's antisemitism.
However, RFK, Jr's comment was not antisemitic, when taken in
proper context. He said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and that it
was lab created, and that this showed that it is possible that labs can
purposefully create future diseases that would target select ethnicities.
No I never said it was false.
It might be true.
And what he actually said was not antisemitic.When world conspiracies are said to favor Jews, that's antisemitic.
when it attacks Jews, it's antisemitic.In this case, by implying a lab-created virus was designed to spare Jews.
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/21/23 11:02 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/20/23 8:17 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:24:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
In this case, by implying a lab-created virus was designed to spare Jews.Might, but isn't.However, RFK, Jr's comment was not antisemitic, when taken inYes, it was simply and obviously false.
proper context. He said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and that it >>>>>>> was lab created, and that this showed that it is possible that labs can >>>>>>> purposefully create future diseases that would target select ethnicities.
No I never said it was false.
It might be true.
And what he actually said was not antisemitic.When world conspiracies are said to favor Jews, that's antisemitic.
when it attacks Jews, it's antisemitic.
Your key word is 'implying' That is your incorrectly ascribed value judgement.
He said it does spare Eshkanazi Jews, (without any ascription to purpose, design or motive)
and thus, that future designs could purposefully designed to target or spare ethnicities (in general)
On 7/21/23 4:16 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/21/23 11:02 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/20/23 8:17 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:24:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>> On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
In this case, by implying a lab-created virus was designed to spare Jews.Might, but isn't.However, RFK, Jr's comment was not antisemitic, when taken in >>>>>>> proper context. He said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and that itYes, it was simply and obviously false.
was lab created, and that this showed that it is possible that labs can
purposefully create future diseases that would target select ethnicities.
No I never said it was false.
It might be true.
And what he actually said was not antisemitic.When world conspiracies are said to favor Jews, that's antisemitic.
when it attacks Jews, it's antisemitic.
Your key word is 'implying' That is your incorrectly ascribed value judgement.Since it hasn't been shown the virus was lab-created, he's already
saying something he can't prove is true, let alone that the virus was "targeted."
He said it does spare Eshkanazi Jews, (without any ascription to purpose, design or motive)
and thus, that future designs could purposefully designed to target or spare ethnicities (in general)
It doesn't.
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 5:38:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/21/23 4:16 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Since it hasn't been shown the virus was lab-created, he's already
On 7/21/23 11:02 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/20/23 8:17 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:24:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
Your key word is 'implying' That is your incorrectly ascribed value judgement.In this case, by implying a lab-created virus was designed to spare Jews. >>>when it attacks Jews, it's antisemitic.Might, but isn't.However, RFK, Jr's comment was not antisemitic, when taken in >>>>>>>>> proper context. He said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and that itYes, it was simply and obviously false.
was lab created, and that this showed that it is possible that labs can
purposefully create future diseases that would target select ethnicities.
No I never said it was false.
It might be true.
And what he actually said was not antisemitic.When world conspiracies are said to favor Jews, that's antisemitic. >>>>>
saying something he can't prove is true, let alone that the virus was
"targeted."
He said it does spare Eshkanazi Jews, (without any ascription to purpose, design or motive)
and thus, that future designs could purposefully designed to target or spare ethnicities (in general)
It doesn't.
He reported a study that says so. Evidently there are dueling studies.
Close knit fundamentalist Jewish groups are not indicative of the larger Eshkanazi community.
His remarks were not antisemitic, as he did not attack Jews in any sense.
all he said was that a virus could be designed to attack ethnicities.
And mentioned a report that Covid did not attcak Ashkenazi Jews so badly.
Without identifying it. "I have here in my hand...".......A DEI policy that will get you fired if you don't comply, and a lar requiring a jail
term if you don't refer to someone by their preferred pronouns.
On 7/21/23 4:49 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 5:38:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/21/23 4:16 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Since it hasn't been shown the virus was lab-created, he's already
On 7/21/23 11:02 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/20/23 8:17 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:24:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
In this case, by implying a lab-created virus was designed to spare Jews.when it attacks Jews, it's antisemitic.Might, but isn't.However, RFK, Jr's comment was not antisemitic, when taken in >>>>>>>>> proper context. He said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and that itYes, it was simply and obviously false.
was lab created, and that this showed that it is possible that labs can
purposefully create future diseases that would target select ethnicities.
No I never said it was false.
It might be true.
And what he actually said was not antisemitic.When world conspiracies are said to favor Jews, that's antisemitic. >>>>>
Your key word is 'implying' That is your incorrectly ascribed value judgement.
saying something he can't prove is true, let alone that the virus was
"targeted."
He said it does spare Eshkanazi Jews, (without any ascription to purpose, design or motive)
and thus, that future designs could purposefully designed to target or spare ethnicities (in general)
It doesn't.
He reported a study that says so. Evidently there are dueling studies.He did not identify the study. The quote is "...there are papers out
there" which without a real cite is arm-waving.
Close knit fundamentalist Jewish groups are not indicative of the larger Eshkanazi community.Why do you prefer that non-standard spelling?
His remarks were not antisemitic, as he did not attack Jews in any sense.To posit the creation of a world-wide disease that spares Jews is an anti-Semitic trope, that Jews are secretly in control.
all he said was that a virus could be designed to attack ethnicities.Without identifying it. "I have here in my hand..."
And mentioned a report that Covid did not attcak Ashkenazi Jews so badly.
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:39:44 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/21/23 4:49 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 5:38:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:He did not identify the study. The quote is "...there are papers out
On 7/21/23 4:16 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Since it hasn't been shown the virus was lab-created, he's already
On 7/21/23 11:02 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 7/20/23 8:17 PM, Art Sackman wrote:In this case, by implying a lab-created virus was designed to spare Jews.
when it attacks Jews, it's antisemitic.On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:24:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:Might, but isn't.
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote: >>>>Yes, it was simply and obviously false.
However, RFK, Jr's comment was not antisemitic, when taken in >>>>>>>>>>> proper context. He said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and that it
was lab created, and that this showed that it is possible that labs can
purposefully create future diseases that would target select ethnicities.
No I never said it was false.
It might be true.
And what he actually said was not antisemitic.When world conspiracies are said to favor Jews, that's antisemitic. >>>>>>>
Your key word is 'implying' That is your incorrectly ascribed value judgement.
saying something he can't prove is true, let alone that the virus was
"targeted."
He said it does spare Eshkanazi Jews, (without any ascription to purpose, design or motive)
and thus, that future designs could purposefully designed to target or spare ethnicities (in general)
It doesn't.
He reported a study that says so. Evidently there are dueling studies.
there" which without a real cite is arm-waving.
Still, the point is this, that he was refrencing a study.
Close knit fundamentalist Jewish groups are not indicative of the larger Eshkanazi community.Why do you prefer that non-standard spelling?
You can unwad your panties now, it was a typo.
Interestingly, evidently autocorrect didn't pick up on it,
His remarks were not antisemitic, as he did not attack Jews in any sense. >> To posit the creation of a world-wide disease that spares Jews is ananti-Semitic trope, that Jews are secretly in control.
In the case that a disease spares Jews is a real thing, it is NOT antiemetic. It is just reality.
Certain diseases have higher or lower effects upon different ethnic groups. IT IS A FACT
Example: Sickle cell Anemia affect blacks much worse than Jews.
I know that it is not a designed disease.
But suppose the theory that COVID is a designed disease developed at the Wuhan lab.
You certainly CANNOT expect anyone to believe that Jews are secretly in control of the Wuhan lab.
all he said was that a virus could be designed to attack ethnicities.
And mentioned a report that Covid did not attcak Ashkenazi Jews so badly. >> Without identifying it. "I have here in my hand..."
.......A DEI policy that will get you fired if you don't comply, and a lar requiring a jail
term if you don't refer to someone by their preferred pronouns.
ABC News: In an interview with ABC News, Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, founder
of the World Values Network and a friend of Kennedy's, said that the two spoke candidly on Saturday about Kennedy's recent conspiracy theory remarks.
"I said, 'Well, you know what, Bobby? I think the opposite is true. I witnessed the decimation of Ashkenazi Jews in the New York Hasidic
community in Crown Heights. They lost 80 Senior rabbis in the first
month [to COVID-19], March of 2020, all Ashkenazi Jews,'" Boteach said.
On 7/22/23 1:02 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:39:44 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/21/23 4:49 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 5:38:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:there" which without a real cite is arm-waving.
On 7/21/23 4:16 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Since it hasn't been shown the virus was lab-created, he's already
On 7/21/23 11:02 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 7/20/23 8:17 PM, Art Sackman wrote:In this case, by implying a lab-created virus was designed to spare Jews.
when it attacks Jews, it's antisemitic.On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:24:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:Might, but isn't.
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote: >>>>Yes, it was simply and obviously false.
However, RFK, Jr's comment was not antisemitic, when taken in >>>>>>>>>>> proper context. He said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and that it
was lab created, and that this showed that it is possible that labs can
purposefully create future diseases that would target select ethnicities.
No I never said it was false.
It might be true.
And what he actually said was not antisemitic.When world conspiracies are said to favor Jews, that's antisemitic. >>>>>>>
Your key word is 'implying' That is your incorrectly ascribed value judgement.
saying something he can't prove is true, let alone that the virus was >>>> "targeted."
He said it does spare Eshkanazi Jews, (without any ascription to purpose, design or motive)
and thus, that future designs could purposefully designed to target or spare ethnicities (in general)
It doesn't.
He reported a study that says so. Evidently there are dueling studies. >> He did not identify the study. The quote is "...there are papers out
Still, the point is this, that he was refrencing a study.No, he *says* he's referencing a "papers out there."
Close knit fundamentalist Jewish groups are not indicative of the larger Eshkanazi community.Why do you prefer that non-standard spelling?
You can unwad your panties now, it was a typo.Three times in two different posts.
Interestingly, evidently autocorrect didn't pick up on it,Thunderbird's spell check did.
His remarks were not antisemitic, as he did not attack Jews in any sense.To posit the creation of a world-wide disease that spares Jews is an
anti-Semitic trope, that Jews are secretly in control.
In the case that a disease spares Jews is a real thing, it is NOT antiemetic.Assumes facts not in evidence.
It is just reality.
Certain diseases have higher or lower effects upon different ethnic groups.That is a truism. The claim was COVID attacked blacks and whites but
IT IS A FACT
I've already posted there is a discrepancy between those groups.
And there's no evidence it spares Jews and Chinese.
Example: Sickle cell Anemia affect blacks much worse than Jews.Maybe that's an important distinction.
I know that it is not a designed disease.
But suppose the theory that COVID is a designed disease developed at the Wuhan lab.Unless you're a conspiracy nut.
You certainly CANNOT expect anyone to believe that Jews are secretly in control of the Wuhan lab.
all he said was that a virus could be designed to attack ethnicities. >>> And mentioned a report that Covid did not attcak Ashkenazi Jews so badly.Without identifying it. "I have here in my hand..."
.......A DEI policy that will get you fired if you don't comply, and a lar requiring a jail
term if you don't refer to someone by their preferred pronouns.
You lose.
On 7/22/23 1:02 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:39:44 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/21/23 4:49 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 5:38:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:there" which without a real cite is arm-waving.
On 7/21/23 4:16 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Since it hasn't been shown the virus was lab-created, he's already
On 7/21/23 11:02 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 7/20/23 8:17 PM, Art Sackman wrote:In this case, by implying a lab-created virus was designed to spare Jews.
when it attacks Jews, it's antisemitic.On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:24:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:Might, but isn't.
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote: >>>>Yes, it was simply and obviously false.
However, RFK, Jr's comment was not antisemitic, when taken in >>>>>>>>>>> proper context. He said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and that it
was lab created, and that this showed that it is possible that labs can
purposefully create future diseases that would target select ethnicities.
No I never said it was false.
It might be true.
And what he actually said was not antisemitic.When world conspiracies are said to favor Jews, that's antisemitic. >>>>>>>
Your key word is 'implying' That is your incorrectly ascribed value judgement.
saying something he can't prove is true, let alone that the virus was >>>> "targeted."
He said it does spare Eshkanazi Jews, (without any ascription to purpose, design or motive)
and thus, that future designs could purposefully designed to target or spare ethnicities (in general)
It doesn't.
He reported a study that says so. Evidently there are dueling studies. >> He did not identify the study. The quote is "...there are papers out
Still, the point is this, that he was refrencing a study.No, he *says* he's referencing a "papers out there."
Close knit fundamentalist Jewish groups are not indicative of the larger Eshkanazi community.Why do you prefer that non-standard spelling?
You can unwad your panties now, it was a typo.Three times in two different posts.
Interestingly, evidently autocorrect didn't pick up on it,Thunderbird's spell check did.
His remarks were not antisemitic, as he did not attack Jews in any sense.To posit the creation of a world-wide disease that spares Jews is an
anti-Semitic trope, that Jews are secretly in control.
In the case that a disease spares Jews is a real thing, it is NOT antiemetic.Assumes facts not in evidence.
It is just reality.
Certain diseases have higher or lower effects upon different ethnic groups.That is a truism. The claim was COVID attacked blacks and whites but
IT IS A FACT
I've already posted there is a discrepancy between those groups.
And there's no evidence it spares Jews and Chinese.
Example: Sickle cell Anemia affect blacks much worse than Jews.Maybe that's an important distinction.
I know that it is not a designed disease.
But suppose the theory that COVID is a designed disease developed at the Wuhan lab.Unless you're a conspiracy nut.
You certainly CANNOT expect anyone to believe that Jews are secretly in control of the Wuhan lab.
all he said was that a virus could be designed to attack ethnicities. >>> And mentioned a report that Covid did not attcak Ashkenazi Jews so badly.Without identifying it. "I have here in my hand..."
.......A DEI policy that will get you fired if you don't comply, and a lar requiring a jailYou lose.
term if you don't refer to someone by their preferred pronouns.
ABC News: In an interview with ABC News, Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, founder
of the World Values Network and a friend of Kennedy's, said that the two spoke candidly on Saturday about Kennedy's recent conspiracy theory remarks.
"I said, 'Well, you know what, Bobby? I think the opposite is true. I witnessed the decimation of Ashkenazi Jews in the New York Hasidic
community in Crown Heights. They lost 80 Senior rabbis in the first
month [to COVID-19], March of 2020, all Ashkenazi Jews,'" Boteach said.
On 7/22/23 1:02 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:39:44 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/21/23 4:49 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 5:38:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:there" which without a real cite is arm-waving.
On 7/21/23 4:16 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Since it hasn't been shown the virus was lab-created, he's already
On 7/21/23 11:02 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 7/20/23 8:17 PM, Art Sackman wrote:In this case, by implying a lab-created virus was designed to spare Jews.
when it attacks Jews, it's antisemitic.On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:24:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:Might, but isn't.
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote: >>>>Yes, it was simply and obviously false.
However, RFK, Jr's comment was not antisemitic, when taken in >>>>>>>>>>> proper context. He said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and that it
was lab created, and that this showed that it is possible that labs can
purposefully create future diseases that would target select ethnicities.
No I never said it was false.
It might be true.
And what he actually said was not antisemitic.When world conspiracies are said to favor Jews, that's antisemitic. >>>>>>>
Your key word is 'implying' That is your incorrectly ascribed value judgement.
saying something he can't prove is true, let alone that the virus was >>>> "targeted."
He said it does spare Eshkanazi Jews, (without any ascription to purpose, design or motive)
and thus, that future designs could purposefully designed to target or spare ethnicities (in general)
It doesn't.
He reported a study that says so. Evidently there are dueling studies. >> He did not identify the study. The quote is "...there are papers out
Still, the point is this, that he was refrencing a study.No, he *says* he's referencing a "papers out there."
Close knit fundamentalist Jewish groups are not indicative of the larger Eshkanazi community.Why do you prefer that non-standard spelling?
You can unwad your panties now, it was a typo.Three times in two different posts.
Interestingly, evidently autocorrect didn't pick up on it,Thunderbird's spell check did.
His remarks were not antisemitic, as he did not attack Jews in any sense.To posit the creation of a world-wide disease that spares Jews is an
anti-Semitic trope, that Jews are secretly in control.
In the case that a disease spares Jews is a real thing, it is NOT antiemetic.Assumes facts not in evidence.
It is just reality.
Certain diseases have higher or lower effects upon different ethnic groups.That is a truism. The claim was COVID attacked blacks and whites but
IT IS A FACT
I've already posted there is a discrepancy between those groups.
And there's no evidence it spares Jews and Chinese.
Example: Sickle cell Anemia affect blacks much worse than Jews.Maybe that's an important distinction.
I know that it is not a designed disease.
But suppose the theory that COVID is a designed disease developed at the Wuhan lab.Unless you're a conspiracy nut.
You certainly CANNOT expect anyone to believe that Jews are secretly in control of the Wuhan lab.
all he said was that a virus could be designed to attack ethnicities. >>> And mentioned a report that Covid did not attcak Ashkenazi Jews so badly.Without identifying it. "I have here in my hand..."
.......A DEI policy that will get you fired if you don't comply, and a lar requiring a jailYou lose.
term if you don't refer to someone by their preferred pronouns.
ABC News: In an interview with ABC News, Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, founder
of the World Values Network and a friend of Kennedy's, said that the two spoke candidly on Saturday about Kennedy's recent conspiracy theory remarks.
"I said, 'Well, you know what, Bobby? I think the opposite is true. I witnessed the decimation of Ashkenazi Jews in the New York Hasidic
community in Crown Heights. They lost 80 Senior rabbis in the first
month [to COVID-19], March of 2020, all Ashkenazi Jews,'" Boteach said.
On 7/22/23 1:02 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:39:44 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/21/23 4:49 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 5:38:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:there" which without a real cite is arm-waving.
On 7/21/23 4:16 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Since it hasn't been shown the virus was lab-created, he's already
On 7/21/23 11:02 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 7/20/23 8:17 PM, Art Sackman wrote:In this case, by implying a lab-created virus was designed to spare Jews.
when it attacks Jews, it's antisemitic.On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:24:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:Might, but isn't.
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote: >>>>Yes, it was simply and obviously false.
However, RFK, Jr's comment was not antisemitic, when taken in >>>>>>>>>>> proper context. He said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and that it
was lab created, and that this showed that it is possible that labs can
purposefully create future diseases that would target select ethnicities.
No I never said it was false.
It might be true.
And what he actually said was not antisemitic.When world conspiracies are said to favor Jews, that's antisemitic. >>>>>>>
Your key word is 'implying' That is your incorrectly ascribed value judgement.
saying something he can't prove is true, let alone that the virus was >>>> "targeted."
He said it does spare Eshkanazi Jews, (without any ascription to purpose, design or motive)
and thus, that future designs could purposefully designed to target or spare ethnicities (in general)
It doesn't.
He reported a study that says so. Evidently there are dueling studies. >> He did not identify the study. The quote is "...there are papers out
Still, the point is this, that he was refrencing a study.No, he *says* he's referencing a "papers out there."
Close knit fundamentalist Jewish groups are not indicative of the larger Eshkanazi community.Why do you prefer that non-standard spelling?
You can unwad your panties now, it was a typo.Three times in two different posts.
Interestingly, evidently autocorrect didn't pick up on it,Thunderbird's spell check did.
His remarks were not antisemitic, as he did not attack Jews in any sense.To posit the creation of a world-wide disease that spares Jews is an
anti-Semitic trope, that Jews are secretly in control.
In the case that a disease spares Jews is a real thing, it is NOT antiemetic.Assumes facts not in evidence.
It is just reality.
Certain diseases have higher or lower effects upon different ethnic groups.That is a truism. The claim was COVID attacked blacks and whites but
IT IS A FACT
I've already posted there is a discrepancy between those groups.
And there's no evidence it spares Jews and Chinese.
Example: Sickle cell Anemia affect blacks much worse than Jews.Maybe that's an important distinction.
I know that it is not a designed disease.
But suppose the theory that COVID is a designed disease developed at the Wuhan lab.Unless you're a conspiracy nut.
You certainly CANNOT expect anyone to believe that Jews are secretly in control of the Wuhan lab.
all he said was that a virus could be designed to attack ethnicities. >>> And mentioned a report that Covid did not attcak Ashkenazi Jews so badly.Without identifying it. "I have here in my hand..."
.......A DEI policy that will get you fired if you don't comply, and a lar requiring a jailYou lose.
term if you don't refer to someone by their preferred pronouns.
ABC News: In an interview with ABC News, Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, founder
of the World Values Network and a friend of Kennedy's, said that the two spoke candidly on Saturday about Kennedy's recent conspiracy theory remarks.
"I said, 'Well, you know what, Bobby? I think the opposite is true. I witnessed the decimation of Ashkenazi Jews in the New York Hasidic
community in Crown Heights. They lost 80 Senior rabbis in the first
month [to COVID-19], March of 2020, all Ashkenazi Jews,'" Boteach said.
On 7/22/23 1:02 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:39:44 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/21/23 4:49 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 5:38:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:there" which without a real cite is arm-waving.
On 7/21/23 4:16 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Since it hasn't been shown the virus was lab-created, he's already
On 7/21/23 11:02 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 7/20/23 8:17 PM, Art Sackman wrote:In this case, by implying a lab-created virus was designed to spare Jews.
when it attacks Jews, it's antisemitic.On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:24:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:Might, but isn't.
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote: >>>>Yes, it was simply and obviously false.
However, RFK, Jr's comment was not antisemitic, when taken in >>>>>>>>>>> proper context. He said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and that it
was lab created, and that this showed that it is possible that labs can
purposefully create future diseases that would target select ethnicities.
No I never said it was false.
It might be true.
And what he actually said was not antisemitic.When world conspiracies are said to favor Jews, that's antisemitic. >>>>>>>
Your key word is 'implying' That is your incorrectly ascribed value judgement.
saying something he can't prove is true, let alone that the virus was >>>> "targeted."
He said it does spare Eshkanazi Jews, (without any ascription to purpose, design or motive)
and thus, that future designs could purposefully designed to target or spare ethnicities (in general)
It doesn't.
He reported a study that says so. Evidently there are dueling studies. >> He did not identify the study. The quote is "...there are papers out
Still, the point is this, that he was refrencing a study.No, he *says* he's referencing a "papers out there."
Close knit fundamentalist Jewish groups are not indicative of the larger Eshkanazi community.Why do you prefer that non-standard spelling?
You can unwad your panties now, it was a typo.Three times in two different posts.
Interestingly, evidently autocorrect didn't pick up on it,Thunderbird's spell check did.
His remarks were not antisemitic, as he did not attack Jews in any sense.To posit the creation of a world-wide disease that spares Jews is an
anti-Semitic trope, that Jews are secretly in control.
In the case that a disease spares Jews is a real thing, it is NOT antiemetic.Assumes facts not in evidence.
It is just reality.
Certain diseases have higher or lower effects upon different ethnic groups.That is a truism. The claim was COVID attacked blacks and whites but
IT IS A FACT
I've already posted there is a discrepancy between those groups.
And there's no evidence it spares Jews and Chinese.
Example: Sickle cell Anemia affect blacks much worse than Jews.Maybe that's an important distinction.
I know that it is not a designed disease.
But suppose the theory that COVID is a designed disease developed at the Wuhan lab.Unless you're a conspiracy nut.
You certainly CANNOT expect anyone to believe that Jews are secretly in control of the Wuhan lab.
all he said was that a virus could be designed to attack ethnicities. >>> And mentioned a report that Covid did not attcak Ashkenazi Jews so badly.Without identifying it. "I have here in my hand..."
.......A DEI policy that will get you fired if you don't comply, and a lar requiring a jailYou lose.
term if you don't refer to someone by their preferred pronouns.
ABC News: In an interview with ABC News, Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, founder
of the World Values Network and a friend of Kennedy's, said that the two spoke candidly on Saturday about Kennedy's recent conspiracy theory remarks.
"I said, 'Well, you know what, Bobby? I think the opposite is true. I witnessed the decimation of Ashkenazi Jews in the New York Hasidic
community in Crown Heights. They lost 80 Senior rabbis in the first
month [to COVID-19], March of 2020, all Ashkenazi Jews,'" Boteach said.
On 7/22/23 1:02 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:39:44 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/21/23 4:49 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 5:38:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:there" which without a real cite is arm-waving.
On 7/21/23 4:16 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Since it hasn't been shown the virus was lab-created, he's already
On 7/21/23 11:02 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 7/20/23 8:17 PM, Art Sackman wrote:In this case, by implying a lab-created virus was designed to spare Jews.
when it attacks Jews, it's antisemitic.On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:24:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:Might, but isn't.
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote: >>>>Yes, it was simply and obviously false.
However, RFK, Jr's comment was not antisemitic, when taken in >>>>>>>>>>> proper context. He said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and that it
was lab created, and that this showed that it is possible that labs can
purposefully create future diseases that would target select ethnicities.
No I never said it was false.
It might be true.
And what he actually said was not antisemitic.When world conspiracies are said to favor Jews, that's antisemitic. >>>>>>>
Your key word is 'implying' That is your incorrectly ascribed value judgement.
saying something he can't prove is true, let alone that the virus was >>>> "targeted."
He said it does spare Eshkanazi Jews, (without any ascription to purpose, design or motive)
and thus, that future designs could purposefully designed to target or spare ethnicities (in general)
It doesn't.
He reported a study that says so. Evidently there are dueling studies. >> He did not identify the study. The quote is "...there are papers out
Still, the point is this, that he was refrencing a study.No, he *says* he's referencing a "papers out there."
Close knit fundamentalist Jewish groups are not indicative of the larger Eshkanazi community.Why do you prefer that non-standard spelling?
You can unwad your panties now, it was a typo.Three times in two different posts.
Interestingly, evidently autocorrect didn't pick up on it,Thunderbird's spell check did.
His remarks were not antisemitic, as he did not attack Jews in any sense.To posit the creation of a world-wide disease that spares Jews is an
anti-Semitic trope, that Jews are secretly in control.
In the case that a disease spares Jews is a real thing, it is NOT antiemetic.Assumes facts not in evidence.
It is just reality.
Certain diseases have higher or lower effects upon different ethnic groups.That is a truism. The claim was COVID attacked blacks and whites but
IT IS A FACT
I've already posted there is a discrepancy between those groups.
And there's no evidence it spares Jews and Chinese.
Example: Sickle cell Anemia affect blacks much worse than Jews.Maybe that's an important distinction.
I know that it is not a designed disease.
But suppose the theory that COVID is a designed disease developed at the Wuhan lab.Unless you're a conspiracy nut.
You certainly CANNOT expect anyone to believe that Jews are secretly in control of the Wuhan lab.
all he said was that a virus could be designed to attack ethnicities. >>> And mentioned a report that Covid did not attcak Ashkenazi Jews so badly.Without identifying it. "I have here in my hand..."
.......A DEI policy that will get you fired if you don't comply, and a lar requiring a jailYou lose.
term if you don't refer to someone by their preferred pronouns.
ABC News: In an interview with ABC News, Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, founder
of the World Values Network and a friend of Kennedy's, said that the two spoke candidly on Saturday about Kennedy's recent conspiracy theory remarks.
"I said, 'Well, you know what, Bobby? I think the opposite is true. I witnessed the decimation of Ashkenazi Jews in the New York Hasidic
community in Crown Heights. They lost 80 Senior rabbis in the first
month [to COVID-19], March of 2020, all Ashkenazi Jews,'" Boteach said.
On 7/22/23 1:02 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:39:44 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/21/23 4:49 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 5:38:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:there" which without a real cite is arm-waving.
On 7/21/23 4:16 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Since it hasn't been shown the virus was lab-created, he's already
On 7/21/23 11:02 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 7/20/23 8:17 PM, Art Sackman wrote:In this case, by implying a lab-created virus was designed to spare Jews.
when it attacks Jews, it's antisemitic.On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:24:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:Might, but isn't.
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote: >>>>Yes, it was simply and obviously false.
However, RFK, Jr's comment was not antisemitic, when taken in >>>>>>>>>>> proper context. He said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and that it
was lab created, and that this showed that it is possible that labs can
purposefully create future diseases that would target select ethnicities.
No I never said it was false.
It might be true.
And what he actually said was not antisemitic.When world conspiracies are said to favor Jews, that's antisemitic. >>>>>>>
Your key word is 'implying' That is your incorrectly ascribed value judgement.
saying something he can't prove is true, let alone that the virus was >>>> "targeted."
He said it does spare Eshkanazi Jews, (without any ascription to purpose, design or motive)
and thus, that future designs could purposefully designed to target or spare ethnicities (in general)
It doesn't.
He reported a study that says so. Evidently there are dueling studies. >> He did not identify the study. The quote is "...there are papers out
Still, the point is this, that he was refrencing a study.No, he *says* he's referencing a "papers out there."
Close knit fundamentalist Jewish groups are not indicative of the larger Eshkanazi community.Why do you prefer that non-standard spelling?
You can unwad your panties now, it was a typo.Three times in two different posts.
Interestingly, evidently autocorrect didn't pick up on it,Thunderbird's spell check did.
His remarks were not antisemitic, as he did not attack Jews in any sense.To posit the creation of a world-wide disease that spares Jews is an
anti-Semitic trope, that Jews are secretly in control.
In the case that a disease spares Jews is a real thing, it is NOT antiemetic.Assumes facts not in evidence.
It is just reality.
Certain diseases have higher or lower effects upon different ethnic groups.That is a truism. The claim was COVID attacked blacks and whites but
IT IS A FACT
I've already posted there is a discrepancy between those groups.
And there's no evidence it spares Jews and Chinese.
Example: Sickle cell Anemia affect blacks much worse than Jews.Maybe that's an important distinction.
I know that it is not a designed disease.
But suppose the theory that COVID is a designed disease developed at the Wuhan lab.Unless you're a conspiracy nut.
You certainly CANNOT expect anyone to believe that Jews are secretly in control of the Wuhan lab.
all he said was that a virus could be designed to attack ethnicities. >>> And mentioned a report that Covid did not attcak Ashkenazi Jews so badly.Without identifying it. "I have here in my hand..."
.......A DEI policy that will get you fired if you don't comply, and a lar requiring a jailYou lose.
term if you don't refer to someone by their preferred pronouns.
ABC News: In an interview with ABC News, Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, founder
of the World Values Network and a friend of Kennedy's, said that the two spoke candidly on Saturday about Kennedy's recent conspiracy theory remarks.
"I said, 'Well, you know what, Bobby? I think the opposite is true. I witnessed the decimation of Ashkenazi Jews in the New York Hasidic
community in Crown Heights. They lost 80 Senior rabbis in the first
month [to COVID-19], March of 2020, all Ashkenazi Jews,'" Boteach said.
On 7/22/23 1:02 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:39:44 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/21/23 4:49 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 5:38:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:there" which without a real cite is arm-waving.
On 7/21/23 4:16 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Since it hasn't been shown the virus was lab-created, he's already
On 7/21/23 11:02 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 7/20/23 8:17 PM, Art Sackman wrote:In this case, by implying a lab-created virus was designed to spare Jews.
when it attacks Jews, it's antisemitic.On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:24:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:Might, but isn't.
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote: >>>>Yes, it was simply and obviously false.
However, RFK, Jr's comment was not antisemitic, when taken in >>>>>>>>>>> proper context. He said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and that it
was lab created, and that this showed that it is possible that labs can
purposefully create future diseases that would target select ethnicities.
No I never said it was false.
It might be true.
And what he actually said was not antisemitic.When world conspiracies are said to favor Jews, that's antisemitic. >>>>>>>
Your key word is 'implying' That is your incorrectly ascribed value judgement.
saying something he can't prove is true, let alone that the virus was >>>> "targeted."
He said it does spare Eshkanazi Jews, (without any ascription to purpose, design or motive)
and thus, that future designs could purposefully designed to target or spare ethnicities (in general)
It doesn't.
He reported a study that says so. Evidently there are dueling studies. >> He did not identify the study. The quote is "...there are papers out
Still, the point is this, that he was refrencing a study.No, he *says* he's referencing a "papers out there."
Close knit fundamentalist Jewish groups are not indicative of the larger Eshkanazi community.Why do you prefer that non-standard spelling?
You can unwad your panties now, it was a typo.Three times in two different posts.
Interestingly, evidently autocorrect didn't pick up on it,Thunderbird's spell check did.
His remarks were not antisemitic, as he did not attack Jews in any sense.To posit the creation of a world-wide disease that spares Jews is an
anti-Semitic trope, that Jews are secretly in control.
In the case that a disease spares Jews is a real thing, it is NOT antiemetic.Assumes facts not in evidence.
It is just reality.
Certain diseases have higher or lower effects upon different ethnic groups.That is a truism. The claim was COVID attacked blacks and whites but
IT IS A FACT
I've already posted there is a discrepancy between those groups.
And there's no evidence it spares Jews and Chinese.
Example: Sickle cell Anemia affect blacks much worse than Jews.Maybe that's an important distinction.
I know that it is not a designed disease.
But suppose the theory that COVID is a designed disease developed at the Wuhan lab.Unless you're a conspiracy nut.
You certainly CANNOT expect anyone to believe that Jews are secretly in control of the Wuhan lab.
all he said was that a virus could be designed to attack ethnicities. >>> And mentioned a report that Covid did not attcak Ashkenazi Jews so badly.Without identifying it. "I have here in my hand..."
.......A DEI policy that will get you fired if you don't comply, and a lar requiring a jailYou lose.
term if you don't refer to someone by their preferred pronouns.
ABC News: In an interview with ABC News, Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, founder
of the World Values Network and a friend of Kennedy's, said that the two spoke candidly on Saturday about Kennedy's recent conspiracy theory remarks.
"I said, 'Well, you know what, Bobby? I think the opposite is true. I witnessed the decimation of Ashkenazi Jews in the New York Hasidic
community in Crown Heights. They lost 80 Senior rabbis in the first
month [to COVID-19], March of 2020, all Ashkenazi Jews,'" Boteach said.
On 7/22/23 1:02 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:39:44 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/21/23 4:49 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 5:38:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:there" which without a real cite is arm-waving.
On 7/21/23 4:16 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Since it hasn't been shown the virus was lab-created, he's already
On 7/21/23 11:02 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 7/20/23 8:17 PM, Art Sackman wrote:In this case, by implying a lab-created virus was designed to spare Jews.
when it attacks Jews, it's antisemitic.On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:24:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:Might, but isn't.
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote: >>>>Yes, it was simply and obviously false.
However, RFK, Jr's comment was not antisemitic, when taken in >>>>>>>>>>> proper context. He said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and that it
was lab created, and that this showed that it is possible that labs can
purposefully create future diseases that would target select ethnicities.
No I never said it was false.
It might be true.
And what he actually said was not antisemitic.When world conspiracies are said to favor Jews, that's antisemitic. >>>>>>>
Your key word is 'implying' That is your incorrectly ascribed value judgement.
saying something he can't prove is true, let alone that the virus was >>>> "targeted."
He said it does spare Eshkanazi Jews, (without any ascription to purpose, design or motive)
and thus, that future designs could purposefully designed to target or spare ethnicities (in general)
It doesn't.
He reported a study that says so. Evidently there are dueling studies. >> He did not identify the study. The quote is "...there are papers out
Still, the point is this, that he was refrencing a study.No, he *says* he's referencing a "papers out there."
Close knit fundamentalist Jewish groups are not indicative of the larger Eshkanazi community.Why do you prefer that non-standard spelling?
You can unwad your panties now, it was a typo.Three times in two different posts.
Interestingly, evidently autocorrect didn't pick up on it,Thunderbird's spell check did.
His remarks were not antisemitic, as he did not attack Jews in any sense.To posit the creation of a world-wide disease that spares Jews is an
anti-Semitic trope, that Jews are secretly in control.
In the case that a disease spares Jews is a real thing, it is NOT antiemetic.Assumes facts not in evidence.
It is just reality.
Certain diseases have higher or lower effects upon different ethnic groups.That is a truism. The claim was COVID attacked blacks and whites but
IT IS A FACT
I've already posted there is a discrepancy between those groups.
And there's no evidence it spares Jews and Chinese.
Example: Sickle cell Anemia affect blacks much worse than Jews.Maybe that's an important distinction.
I know that it is not a designed disease.
But suppose the theory that COVID is a designed disease developed at the Wuhan lab.Unless you're a conspiracy nut.
You certainly CANNOT expect anyone to believe that Jews are secretly in control of the Wuhan lab.
all he said was that a virus could be designed to attack ethnicities.
And mentioned a report that Covid did not attcak Ashkenazi Jews so badly.Without identifying it. "I have here in my hand..."
On 7/22/23 1:02 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:39:44 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/21/23 4:49 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 5:38:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:there" which without a real cite is arm-waving.
On 7/21/23 4:16 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Since it hasn't been shown the virus was lab-created, he's already
On 7/21/23 11:02 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 7/20/23 8:17 PM, Art Sackman wrote:In this case, by implying a lab-created virus was designed to spare Jews.
when it attacks Jews, it's antisemitic.On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:24:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:Might, but isn't.
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote: >>>>Yes, it was simply and obviously false.
However, RFK, Jr's comment was not antisemitic, when taken in >>>>>>>>>>> proper context. He said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and that it
was lab created, and that this showed that it is possible that labs can
purposefully create future diseases that would target select ethnicities.
No I never said it was false.
It might be true.
And what he actually said was not antisemitic.When world conspiracies are said to favor Jews, that's antisemitic. >>>>>>>
Your key word is 'implying' That is your incorrectly ascribed value judgement.
saying something he can't prove is true, let alone that the virus was >>>> "targeted."
He said it does spare Eshkanazi Jews, (without any ascription to purpose, design or motive)
and thus, that future designs could purposefully designed to target or spare ethnicities (in general)
It doesn't.
He reported a study that says so. Evidently there are dueling studies. >> He did not identify the study. The quote is "...there are papers out
Still, the point is this, that he was refrencing a study.No, he *says* he's referencing a "papers out there."
Close knit fundamentalist Jewish groups are not indicative of the larger Eshkanazi community.Why do you prefer that non-standard spelling?
You can unwad your panties now, it was a typo.Three times in two different posts.
Interestingly, evidently autocorrect didn't pick up on it,Thunderbird's spell check did.
His remarks were not antisemitic, as he did not attack Jews in any sense.To posit the creation of a world-wide disease that spares Jews is an
anti-Semitic trope, that Jews are secretly in control.
In the case that a disease spares Jews is a real thing, it is NOT antiemetic.Assumes facts not in evidence.
It is just reality.
Certain diseases have higher or lower effects upon different ethnic groups.That is a truism. The claim was COVID attacked blacks and whites but
IT IS A FACT
I've already posted there is a discrepancy between those groups.
And there's no evidence it spares Jews and Chinese.
Example: Sickle cell Anemia affect blacks much worse than Jews.Maybe that's an important distinction.
I know that it is not a designed disease.
But suppose the theory that COVID is a designed disease developed at the Wuhan lab.Unless you're a conspiracy nut.
You certainly CANNOT expect anyone to believe that Jews are secretly in control of the Wuhan lab.
all he said was that a virus could be designed to attack ethnicities. >>> And mentioned a report that Covid did not attcak Ashkenazi Jews so badly.Without identifying it. "I have here in my hand..."
.......A DEI policy that will get you fired if you don't comply, and a lar requiring a jailYou lose.
term if you don't refer to someone by their preferred pronouns.
ABC News: In an interview with ABC News, Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, founder
of the World Values Network and a friend of Kennedy's, said that the two spoke candidly on Saturday about Kennedy's recent conspiracy theory remarks.
"I said, 'Well, you know what, Bobby? I think the opposite is true. I witnessed the decimation of Ashkenazi Jews in the New York Hasidic
community in Crown Heights. They lost 80 Senior rabbis in the first
month [to COVID-19], March of 2020, all Ashkenazi Jews,'" Boteach said.
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 4:49:10 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/22/23 1:02 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:39:44 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:No, he *says* he's referencing a "papers out there."
On 7/21/23 4:49 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 5:38:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:He did not identify the study. The quote is "...there are
On 7/21/23 4:16 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4, mINE109Since it hasn't been shown the virus was lab-created, he's
wrote:
On 7/21/23 11:02 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-4,
mINE109 wrote:
On 7/20/23 8:17 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:24:22 PM UTC-4,
mINE109 wrote:
On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM
UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
In this case, by implying a lab-created virus wasMight, but isn't.However, RFK, Jr's comment was notYes, it was simply and obviously false.
antisemitic, when taken in proper context. He
said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and
that it was lab created, and that this showed
that it is possible that labs can
purposefully create future diseases that
would target select ethnicities.
No I never said it was false. It might be true.
And what he actually said was not antisemitic.When world conspiracies are said to favor Jews,
that's antisemitic.
when it attacks Jews, it's antisemitic.
designed to spare Jews.
Your key word is 'implying' That is your incorrectly
ascribed value judgement.
already saying something he can't prove is true, let alone
that the virus was "targeted."
He said it does spare Eshkanazi Jews, (without any
ascription to purpose, design or motive) and thus, that
future designs could purposefully designed to target or
spare ethnicities (in general)
It doesn't.
He reported a study that says so. Evidently there are dueling
studies.
papers out there" which without a real cite is arm-waving.
Still, the point is this, that he was refrencing a study.
Three times in two different posts.Close knit fundamentalist Jewish groups are not indicative ofWhy do you prefer that non-standard spelling?
the larger Eshkanazi community.
You can unwad your panties now, it was a typo.
Interestingly, evidently autocorrect didn't pick up on it,Thunderbird's spell check did.
Assumes facts not in evidence.His remarks were not antisemitic, as he did not attack JewsTo posit the creation of a world-wide disease that spares Jews
in any sense.
is an anti-Semitic trope, that Jews are secretly in control.
In the case that a disease spares Jews is a real thing, it is NOT
antiemetic. It is just reality.
Certain diseases have higher or lower effects upon differentThat is a truism. The claim was COVID attacked blacks and whites
ethnic groups. IT IS A FACT
but I've already posted there is a discrepancy between those
groups.
And there's no evidence it spares Jews and Chinese.
Example: Sickle cell Anemia affect blacks much worse than Jews. IMaybe that's an important distinction.
know that it is not a designed disease.
But suppose the theory that COVID is a designed disease developedUnless you're a conspiracy nut.
at the Wuhan lab. You certainly CANNOT expect anyone to believe
that Jews are secretly in control of the Wuhan lab.
all he said was that a virus could be designed to attackWithout identifying it. "I have here in my hand..."
ethnicities. And mentioned a report that Covid did not attcak
Ashkenazi Jews so badly.
.......A DEI policy that will get you fired if you don't comply,
and a lar requiring a jail term if you don't refer to someone by
their preferred pronouns.
You lose.
You don't know statistics
10million Askenazi Jews world wide 100,000 Hasisdics in NYC
You amplified the results for one specific subgroup comprising 1% of
the total population ' And that particular subgroup has unique
sociological.. characteristics compared to the larger group. Hasidics
are very self contained, isolated, and have large families. They
gather in large groups and were adverse to isolating themselves from contagious memebers. Yuo can't extrapolate from that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews
The number of Hasidim in New York has doubled, from around fifty
thousand to over one hundred thousand, in twenty years. from www.pbs.org/alifeapart/intro_91.html
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 4:49:10 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/22/23 1:02 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:39:44 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
You lose.
ABC News: In an interview with ABC News, Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, founder
of the World Values Network and a friend of Kennedy's, said that the two
spoke candidly on Saturday about Kennedy's recent conspiracy theory remarks. >>
"I said, 'Well, you know what, Bobby? I think the opposite is true. I
witnessed the decimation of Ashkenazi Jews in the New York Hasidic
community in Crown Heights. They lost 80 Senior rabbis in the first
month [to COVID-19], March of 2020, all Ashkenazi Jews,'" Boteach said.
Not all Ashkenazi Jewish communities are the same. And I don't know if this one was predominantly Hassidic or not.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/a-miracle-rabbi-explains-why-russias-jews-have-low-covid-19-death-rate/
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 4:49:10 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/22/23 1:02 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:39:44 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:No, he *says* he's referencing a "papers out there."
On 7/21/23 4:49 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 5:38:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:there" which without a real cite is arm-waving.
On 7/21/23 4:16 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Since it hasn't been shown the virus was lab-created, he's already >>>>>> saying something he can't prove is true, let alone that the virus was >>>>>> "targeted."
On 7/21/23 11:02 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 7/20/23 8:17 PM, Art Sackman wrote:In this case, by implying a lab-created virus was designed to spare Jews.
when it attacks Jews, it's antisemitic.On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:24:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:Might, but isn't.
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote: >>>>>>Yes, it was simply and obviously false.
However, RFK, Jr's comment was not antisemitic, when taken in >>>>>>>>>>>>> proper context. He said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and that it
was lab created, and that this showed that it is possible that labs can
purposefully create future diseases that would target select ethnicities.
No I never said it was false.
It might be true.
And what he actually said was not antisemitic.When world conspiracies are said to favor Jews, that's antisemitic. >>>>>>>>>
Your key word is 'implying' That is your incorrectly ascribed value judgement.
He said it does spare Eshkanazi Jews, (without any ascription to purpose, design or motive)
and thus, that future designs could purposefully designed to target or spare ethnicities (in general)
It doesn't.
He reported a study that says so. Evidently there are dueling studies. >>>> He did not identify the study. The quote is "...there are papers out
Still, the point is this, that he was refrencing a study.
Three times in two different posts.Close knit fundamentalist Jewish groups are not indicative of the larger Eshkanazi community.Why do you prefer that non-standard spelling?
You can unwad your panties now, it was a typo.
Interestingly, evidently autocorrect didn't pick up on it,Thunderbird's spell check did.
Assumes facts not in evidence.His remarks were not antisemitic, as he did not attack Jews in any sense. >>>> To posit the creation of a world-wide disease that spares Jews is ananti-Semitic trope, that Jews are secretly in control.
In the case that a disease spares Jews is a real thing, it is NOT antiemetic.
It is just reality.
Certain diseases have higher or lower effects upon different ethnic groups. >>> IT IS A FACTThat is a truism. The claim was COVID attacked blacks and whites but
I've already posted there is a discrepancy between those groups.
And there's no evidence it spares Jews and Chinese.
Example: Sickle cell Anemia affect blacks much worse than Jews.Maybe that's an important distinction.
I know that it is not a designed disease.
But suppose the theory that COVID is a designed disease developed at the Wuhan lab.Unless you're a conspiracy nut.
You certainly CANNOT expect anyone to believe that Jews are secretly in control of the Wuhan lab.
You lose.all he said was that a virus could be designed to attack ethnicities. >>>>> And mentioned a report that Covid did not attcak Ashkenazi Jews so badly. >>>> Without identifying it. "I have here in my hand..."
.......A DEI policy that will get you fired if you don't comply, and a lar requiring a jail
term if you don't refer to someone by their preferred pronouns.
ABC News: In an interview with ABC News, Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, founder
of the World Values Network and a friend of Kennedy's, said that the two
spoke candidly on Saturday about Kennedy's recent conspiracy theory remarks. >>
"I said, 'Well, you know what, Bobby? I think the opposite is true. I
witnessed the decimation of Ashkenazi Jews in the New York Hasidic
community in Crown Heights. They lost 80 Senior rabbis in the first
month [to COVID-19], March of 2020, all Ashkenazi Jews,'" Boteach said.
I WIN!
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200415/ACE2-genetic-variants-may-influence-coronavirus-disease-progression.aspx
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32844124/
On 7/22/23 8:45 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32844124/
"The aforementioned variants are most frequent in East Asian, South
Asian, African and African American, European, European and South Asian populations, respectively."
That narrows it down.
On 7/22/23 8:38 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 4:49:10 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/22/23 1:02 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:39:44 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:No, he *says* he's referencing a "papers out there."
On 7/21/23 4:49 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 5:38:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/21/23 4:16 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 7/21/23 11:02 AM, Art Sackman wrote:Since it hasn't been shown the virus was lab-created, he's already >>>>>> saying something he can't prove is true, let alone that the virus was >>>>>> "targeted."
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 7/20/23 8:17 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:24:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
In this case, by implying a lab-created virus was designed to spare Jews.Might, but isn't.However, RFK, Jr's comment was not antisemitic, when taken in >>>>>>>>>>>>> proper context. He said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and that itYes, it was simply and obviously false.
was lab created, and that this showed that it is possible that labs can
purposefully create future diseases that would target select ethnicities.
No I never said it was false.
It might be true.
And what he actually said was not antisemitic.When world conspiracies are said to favor Jews, that's antisemitic.
when it attacks Jews, it's antisemitic.
Your key word is 'implying' That is your incorrectly ascribed value judgement.
He said it does spare Eshkanazi Jews, (without any ascription to purpose, design or motive)
and thus, that future designs could purposefully designed to target or spare ethnicities (in general)
It doesn't.
He reported a study that says so. Evidently there are dueling studies. >>>> He did not identify the study. The quote is "...there are papers out >>>> there" which without a real cite is arm-waving.
Still, the point is this, that he was refrencing a study.
Three times in two different posts.Close knit fundamentalist Jewish groups are not indicative of the larger Eshkanazi community.Why do you prefer that non-standard spelling?
You can unwad your panties now, it was a typo.
Interestingly, evidently autocorrect didn't pick up on it,Thunderbird's spell check did.
Assumes facts not in evidence.His remarks were not antisemitic, as he did not attack Jews in any sense.To posit the creation of a world-wide disease that spares Jews is an >>>> anti-Semitic trope, that Jews are secretly in control.
In the case that a disease spares Jews is a real thing, it is NOT antiemetic.
It is just reality.
Certain diseases have higher or lower effects upon different ethnic groups.That is a truism. The claim was COVID attacked blacks and whites but
IT IS A FACT
I've already posted there is a discrepancy between those groups.
And there's no evidence it spares Jews and Chinese.
Example: Sickle cell Anemia affect blacks much worse than Jews.Maybe that's an important distinction.
I know that it is not a designed disease.
But suppose the theory that COVID is a designed disease developed at the Wuhan lab.Unless you're a conspiracy nut.
You certainly CANNOT expect anyone to believe that Jews are secretly in control of the Wuhan lab.
You lose.all he said was that a virus could be designed to attack ethnicities. >>>>> And mentioned a report that Covid did not attcak Ashkenazi Jews so badly.Without identifying it. "I have here in my hand..."
.......A DEI policy that will get you fired if you don't comply, and a lar requiring a jail
term if you don't refer to someone by their preferred pronouns.
ABC News: In an interview with ABC News, Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, founder >> of the World Values Network and a friend of Kennedy's, said that the two >> spoke candidly on Saturday about Kennedy's recent conspiracy theory remarks.
"I said, 'Well, you know what, Bobby? I think the opposite is true. I
witnessed the decimation of Ashkenazi Jews in the New York Hasidic
community in Crown Heights. They lost 80 Senior rabbis in the first
month [to COVID-19], March of 2020, all Ashkenazi Jews,'" Boteach said.
I WIN!
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200415/ACE2-genetic-variants-may-influence-coronavirus-disease-progression.aspxWell-done! Found in "1 in 70 among Ashkenazi Jewish males and 1 in 172
among non-Finnish European males" which might halt the progression of
the variant around in April, 2020.
I do question if that difference is enough to claim Ashkenazi were
"spared," even compared to Europeans.
On 7/22/23 8:36 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 4:49:10 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/22/23 1:02 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:39:44 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
You lose.
ABC News: In an interview with ABC News, Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, founder >> of the World Values Network and a friend of Kennedy's, said that the two >> spoke candidly on Saturday about Kennedy's recent conspiracy theory remarks.
"I said, 'Well, you know what, Bobby? I think the opposite is true. I
witnessed the decimation of Ashkenazi Jews in the New York Hasidic
community in Crown Heights. They lost 80 Senior rabbis in the first
month [to COVID-19], March of 2020, all Ashkenazi Jews,'" Boteach said.
Not all Ashkenazi Jewish communities are the same. And I don't know if this one was predominantly Hassidic or not.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/a-miracle-rabbi-explains-why-russias-jews-have-low-covid-19-death-rate/That's more evidence than RFK jr has offered, even if it turns out to be
not relevant. Of course, it's great that you've offered anecdotal proof lockdowns can be effective.
On 7/22/23 8:45 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32844124/
"The aforementioned variants are most frequent in East Asian, South
Asian, African and African American, European, European and South Asian populations, respectively."
That narrows it down.
On 7/22/23 5:25 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 4:49:10 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/22/23 1:02 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:39:44 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:No, he *says* he's referencing a "papers out there."
On 7/21/23 4:49 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 5:38:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:He did not identify the study. The quote is "...there are
On 7/21/23 4:16 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4, mINE109Since it hasn't been shown the virus was lab-created, he's
wrote:
On 7/21/23 11:02 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-4,
mINE109 wrote:
On 7/20/23 8:17 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:24:22 PM UTC-4,
mINE109 wrote:
On 7/20/23 2:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:17:10 PM
UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
In this case, by implying a lab-created virus wasMight, but isn't.However, RFK, Jr's comment was notYes, it was simply and obviously false.
antisemitic, when taken in proper context. He
said that COVID was less deadly to Jews, and
that it was lab created, and that this showed
that it is possible that labs can
purposefully create future diseases that
would target select ethnicities.
No I never said it was false. It might be true.
And what he actually said was not antisemitic.When world conspiracies are said to favor Jews,
that's antisemitic.
when it attacks Jews, it's antisemitic.
designed to spare Jews.
Your key word is 'implying' That is your incorrectly
ascribed value judgement.
already saying something he can't prove is true, let alone
that the virus was "targeted."
He said it does spare Eshkanazi Jews, (without any
ascription to purpose, design or motive) and thus, that
future designs could purposefully designed to target or
spare ethnicities (in general)
It doesn't.
He reported a study that says so. Evidently there are dueling
studies.
papers out there" which without a real cite is arm-waving.
Still, the point is this, that he was refrencing a study.
Three times in two different posts.Close knit fundamentalist Jewish groups are not indicative ofWhy do you prefer that non-standard spelling?
the larger Eshkanazi community.
You can unwad your panties now, it was a typo.
Interestingly, evidently autocorrect didn't pick up on it,Thunderbird's spell check did.
Assumes facts not in evidence.His remarks were not antisemitic, as he did not attack JewsTo posit the creation of a world-wide disease that spares Jews
in any sense.
is an anti-Semitic trope, that Jews are secretly in control.
In the case that a disease spares Jews is a real thing, it is NOT
antiemetic. It is just reality.
Certain diseases have higher or lower effects upon differentThat is a truism. The claim was COVID attacked blacks and whites
ethnic groups. IT IS A FACT
but I've already posted there is a discrepancy between those
groups.
And there's no evidence it spares Jews and Chinese.
Example: Sickle cell Anemia affect blacks much worse than Jews. IMaybe that's an important distinction.
know that it is not a designed disease.
But suppose the theory that COVID is a designed disease developedUnless you're a conspiracy nut.
at the Wuhan lab. You certainly CANNOT expect anyone to believe
that Jews are secretly in control of the Wuhan lab.
all he said was that a virus could be designed to attackWithout identifying it. "I have here in my hand..."
ethnicities. And mentioned a report that Covid did not attcak
Ashkenazi Jews so badly.
.......A DEI policy that will get you fired if you don't comply,
and a lar requiring a jail term if you don't refer to someone by
their preferred pronouns.
You lose.
You don't know statisticsDoesn't matter, as RFK jr hasn't cited any.
10million Askenazi Jews world wide 100,000 Hasisdics in NYC
You amplified the results for one specific subgroup comprising 1% ofYou surmise a lack of immunity.
the total population ' And that particular subgroup has unique sociological.. characteristics compared to the larger group. Hasidics
are very self contained, isolated, and have large families. They
gather in large groups and were adverse to isolating themselves from contagious memebers. Yuo can't extrapolate from that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews
The number of Hasidim in New York has doubled, from around fiftyNone of that shows Ashkenazi Jews were spared COVID.
thousand to over one hundred thousand, in twenty years. from www.pbs.org/alifeapart/intro_91.html
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 4:49:10 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
ABC News: In an interview with ABC News, Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, founder
of the World Values Network and a friend of Kennedy's, said that the two
spoke candidly on Saturday about Kennedy's recent conspiracy theory remarks. >>
"I said, 'Well, you know what, Bobby? I think the opposite is true. I
witnessed the decimation of Ashkenazi Jews in the New York Hasidic
community in Crown Heights. They lost 80 Senior rabbis in the first
month [to COVID-19], March of 2020, all Ashkenazi Jews,'" Boteach said.
https://forward.com/news/446220/do-jewish-genetic-diseases-increase-the-risk-of-covid-19/
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 4:49:10 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
Without identifying it. "I have here in my hand..."
i think this is itACE2 coding regions (Fig. 1b).
https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-020-01673-z#Abs1
i repeat:
Prevalence of deleterious variants among Latino/Admixed American (AMR), East Asian (EAS), Finnish (FIN), and South Asian (SAS) populations is 2–10%, while Amish (AMI) and Ashkenazi Jewish (ASJ) populations do not appear to carry such variants in
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210705/Study-explores-how-human-ACE2-variants-can-modify-SARS-CoV-2-binding.aspx
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:19:56 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/22/23 8:36 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 4:49:10 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:That's more evidence than RFK jr has offered, even if it turns out to be
On 7/22/23 1:02 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:39:44 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
You lose.
ABC News: In an interview with ABC News, Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, founder >>>> of the World Values Network and a friend of Kennedy's, said that the two >>>> spoke candidly on Saturday about Kennedy's recent conspiracy theory remarks.
"I said, 'Well, you know what, Bobby? I think the opposite is true. I
witnessed the decimation of Ashkenazi Jews in the New York Hasidic
community in Crown Heights. They lost 80 Senior rabbis in the first
month [to COVID-19], March of 2020, all Ashkenazi Jews,'" Boteach said.
Not all Ashkenazi Jewish communities are the same. And I don't know if this one was predominantly Hassidic or not.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/a-miracle-rabbi-explains-why-russias-jews-have-low-covid-19-death-rate/
not relevant. Of course, it's great that you've offered anecdotal proof
lockdowns can be effective.
It's not a binary choice between the two extremes of mandatory lockdowns and careless group behavior.,
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:25:32 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/22/23 8:38 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
I WIN!Well-done! Found in "1 in 70 among Ashkenazi Jewish males and 1 in 172
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200415/ACE2-genetic-variants-may-influence-coronavirus-disease-progression.aspx
among non-Finnish European males" which might halt the progression of
the variant around in April, 2020.
I do question if that difference is enough to claim Ashkenazi were
"spared," even compared to Europeans.
You can question that sea water is salty.
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:15:00 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/22/23 5:25 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 4:49:10 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/22/23 1:02 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
The number of Hasidim in New York has doubled, from around fiftyNone of that shows Ashkenazi Jews were spared COVID.
thousand to over one hundred thousand, in twenty years. from
www.pbs.org/alifeapart/intro_91.html
It's part of the complete picture.
I am sure you are just as against cherry-picking as I am.
and it shows that your picture of Ashkenazi's
being over infected is fake news, misinformation, and a pack of blatant lies.
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 4:49:10 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/22/23 1:02 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
i think this is it
https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-020-01673-z#Sec2
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:27:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/22/23 8:45 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32844124/
"The aforementioned variants are most frequent in East Asian, South
Asian, African and African American, European, European and South Asian
populations, respectively."
That narrows it down.
you ignore what does narrow it down.
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:27:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/22/23 8:45 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32844124/
"The aforementioned variants are most frequent in East Asian,
South Asian, African and African American, European, European and
South Asian populations, respectively."
That narrows it down.
see bcmedicine
Prevalence of deleterious variants among Latino/Admixed American
(AMR), East Asian (EAS), Finnish (FIN), and South Asian (SAS)
populations is 2–10%, while Amish (AMI) and Ashkenazi Jewish (ASJ) populations do not appear to carry such variants in ACE2 coding
regions (Fig. 1b).
On 7/23/23 1:45 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:27:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/22/23 8:45 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32844124/
"The aforementioned variants are most frequent in East Asian, South
Asian, African and African American, European, European and South Asian >> populations, respectively."
That narrows it down.
you ignore what does narrow it down.However much ACE2 coding variants have or have not been shown to affect COVID outcomes, you're a long way from showing design.
On 7/23/23 1:41 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:27:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/22/23 8:45 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32844124/
"The aforementioned variants are most frequent in East Asian,
South Asian, African and African American, European, European and
South Asian populations, respectively."
That narrows it down.
see bcmedicine
Prevalence of deleterious variants among Latino/Admixed AmericanNow show if that changed outcomes after April, 2020. Then show it was designed to make a difference.
(AMR), East Asian (EAS), Finnish (FIN), and South Asian (SAS)
populations is 2–10%, while Amish (AMI) and Ashkenazi Jewish (ASJ) populations do not appear to carry such variants in ACE2 coding
regions (Fig. 1b).
On 7/22/23 9:11 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 4:49:10 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/22/23 1:02 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
i think this is it https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-020-01673-z#Sec2
Conclusions
"This comprehensive comparative genetic analysis of approximately 81,000 human genomes suggested possible associations of ACE2 and TMPRSS2 DNA polymorphisms with COVID-19 susceptibility, severity, and clinical
outcomes. We found that ACE2 polymorphisms were more likely to be
associated with cardiovascular and pulmonary conditions by altering the angiotensinogen-ACE2 interactions, such as p.Arg514Gly in the African/African-American population. Unique but prevalent polymorphisms
in TMPRSS2, including p.Val160Met (rs12329760), may provide potential explanations for differential genetic susceptibility to COVID-19 as well
as for risk factors, including cancer and the high-risk group of male patients. We highlighted that polymorphisms in ACE2 or TMPRSS2 could
guide personalized treatments (i.e., hydroxychloroquine and camostat)
for COVID-19."
Wut was that?
"We highlighted that polymorphisms in ACE2 or TMPRSS2 could guide personalized treatments (i.e., hydroxychloroquine and camostat) for COVID-19."
Red flag! We know how hcq came out. How about that other thing?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9254441/
Efficacy and safety of camostat mesylate in early COVID-19 disease in an ambulatory setting: a randomized placebo-controlled phase II trial (July 2022)
Conclusion
"Under this protocol, camostat mesylate was not found to be effective as
an antiviral drug against SARS-CoV-2."
On 7/23/23 1:48 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:15:00 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/22/23 5:25 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 4:49:10 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/22/23 1:02 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
The number of Hasidim in New York has doubled, from around fiftyNone of that shows Ashkenazi Jews were spared COVID.
thousand to over one hundred thousand, in twenty years. from
www.pbs.org/alifeapart/intro_91.html
It's part of the complete picture.The NYC Ashkenazi are lying about catching COVID?
I am sure you are just as against cherry-picking as I am.
and it shows that your picture of Ashkenazi's
being over infected is fake news, misinformation, and a pack of blatant lies.
You are particularly ignorant of Jewish demographics
and the subsets of the American Jewish population.
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:29:29 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/23/23 1:41 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:27:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/22/23 8:45 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32844124/
Prevalence of deleterious variants among Latino/Admixed AmericanNow show if that changed outcomes after April, 2020. Then show it
(AMR), East Asian (EAS), Finnish (FIN), and South Asian (SAS)
populations is 2–10%, while Amish (AMI) and Ashkenazi Jewish
(ASJ) populations do not appear to carry such variants in ACE2
coding regions (Fig. 1b).
was designed to make a difference.
Irrelevant, because Kennedy did not say that it was so designed.
He merely made the point that a virus COULD be designed to
discriminate by ethnicity. And talked about a study that indicated
that it was a possibility.
BTW, Marxist Steve, as you are so insistent on labelling Kennedy as
an antisemite, are you ready to label Tlaib, AOC, and Omar as
antisemites?
I am nonplused. The Sackpoop is suddenly claiming to be a genetics eckthpurt,
with a concentration in Asskissingazi and Hashssissidicks.
You are particularly ignorant of Jewish demographics
and the subsets of the American Jewish population.
Tell us, if you will, how you developed detailed genetic maps of said "subsets",
and also how you kept it a secret from all the other spittle-spewing yahoos in your synagogue.
I am nonplused. The Sackpoop is suddenly claiming to be a genetics eckthpurt,
with a concentration in Asskissingazi and Hashssissidicks.
You are particularly ignorant of Jewish demographics
and the subsets of the American Jewish population.
Tell us, if you will, how you developed detailed genetic maps of said "subsets",
and also how you kept it a secret from all the other spittle-spewing yahoos in your synagogue.
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 4:31:17 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/23/23 1:48 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:15:00 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:The NYC Ashkenazi are lying about catching COVID?
On 7/22/23 5:25 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 4:49:10 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/22/23 1:02 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
The number of Hasidim in New York has doubled, from around fiftyNone of that shows Ashkenazi Jews were spared COVID.
thousand to over one hundred thousand, in twenty years. from
www.pbs.org/alifeapart/intro_91.html
It's part of the complete picture.
I am sure you are just as against cherry-picking as I am.
and it shows that your picture of Ashkenazi's
being over infected is fake news, misinformation, and a pack of blatant lies.
I must correct you. You make the same recurring error.
You must mean NYC Hasidic.
Hassidic are but a
subset of Ashkenazis.
I am Ashkenazi, and I am not Hassidic.
I was born in NYC.
It was the HAsidics n particular who were susceptible, not the Ashkenazi at large.
You are particularly ignorant of Jewish demographics
and the subsets of the American Jewish population.
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 4:54:33 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/23/23 1:45 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:27:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
However much ACE2 coding variants have or have not been shown to affect
COVID outcomes, you're a long way from showing design.
Not at all my intent.
Kennedy NEVER said it was designed. He said that
future viruses CAN be designed.
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:01:19 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/22/23 9:11 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 4:49:10 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/22/23 1:02 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
i think this is it
https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-020-01673-z#Sec2
Conclusions
"This comprehensive comparative genetic analysis of approximately 81,000
human genomes suggested possible associations of ACE2 and TMPRSS2 DNA
polymorphisms with COVID-19 susceptibility, severity, and clinical
outcomes. We found that ACE2 polymorphisms were more likely to be
associated with cardiovascular and pulmonary conditions by altering the
angiotensinogen-ACE2 interactions, such as p.Arg514Gly in the
African/African-American population. Unique but prevalent polymorphisms
in TMPRSS2, including p.Val160Met (rs12329760), may provide potential
explanations for differential genetic susceptibility to COVID-19 as well
as for risk factors, including cancer and the high-risk group of male
patients. We highlighted that polymorphisms in ACE2 or TMPRSS2 could
guide personalized treatments (i.e., hydroxychloroquine and camostat)
for COVID-19."
Wut was that?
"We highlighted that polymorphisms in ACE2 or TMPRSS2 could guide
personalized treatments (i.e., hydroxychloroquine and camostat) for
COVID-19."
Red flag! We know how hcq came out. How about that other thing?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9254441/
Efficacy and safety of camostat mesylate in early COVID-19 disease in an
ambulatory setting: a randomized placebo-controlled phase II trial (July
2022)
Conclusion
"Under this protocol, camostat mesylate was not found to be effective as
an antiviral drug against SARS-CoV-2."
An off topic deflection to try and mask your utter destruction.
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 9:12:29 PM UTC-4, Fascist Flea wrote:
I am nonplused. The Sackpoop is suddenly claiming to be a genetics eckthpurt,
with a concentration in Asskissingazi and Hashssissidicks.
Tell us, if you will, how you developed detailed genetic maps of said "subsets",
You are particularly ignorant of Jewish demographics
and the subsets of the American Jewish population.
and also how you kept it a secret from all the other spittle-spewing yahoos >> in your synagogue.
You are also a certified idiot,
The differences between Ashkenazis and its subset of Hasidic's
are not at all genetic. The differences are cultural, sociological, and of religious practice.
you don't have a foggiest clue.
On 7/23/23 7:45 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 4:31:17 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/23/23 1:48 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:15:00 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:The NYC Ashkenazi are lying about catching COVID?
On 7/22/23 5:25 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 4:49:10 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>> On 7/22/23 1:02 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
The number of Hasidim in New York has doubled, from around fiftyNone of that shows Ashkenazi Jews were spared COVID.
thousand to over one hundred thousand, in twenty years. from
www.pbs.org/alifeapart/intro_91.html
It's part of the complete picture.
I am sure you are just as against cherry-picking as I am.
and it shows that your picture of Ashkenazi's
being over infected is fake news, misinformation, and a pack of blatant lies.
I must correct you. You make the same recurring error.
You must mean NYC Hasidic.
Hassidic are but a
subset of Ashkenazis.
I am Ashkenazi, and I am not Hassidic.
I was born in NYC.
It was the HAsidics n particular who were susceptible, not the Ashkenazi at large.Hasidics are predominantly Ashkenazi. If you're saying modern Ashkenazi
who observed lockdowns and took precautions had less COVID, you're
making a different point.
You are particularly ignorant of Jewish demographicsFortunately, there are explainers available for ignorant folk like me:
and the subsets of the American Jewish population.
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/who-are-ashkenazi-jews/
"Although the first American Jews were Sephardic, today Ashkenazim are
the most populous ethnic group in North America. The modern religious denominations developed in Ashkenazic countries, and therefore most
North American synagogues use the Ashkenazic liturgy."
Go back a ways, and your distinction is even less useful.
Reuters: "Hasidim are Ashkenazi Jews from Poland, Hungary, Romania,
Ukraine and Russia. Their spiritual and mystical Judaism emerged in the
18th century in reaction to traditional schools such as the Lithuanian
and modernising trends developing in Europe."
On 7/23/23 8:32 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 9:12:29 PM UTC-4, Fascist Flea wrote:
I am nonplused. The Sackpoop is suddenly claiming to be a genetics eckthpurt,
with a concentration in Asskissingazi and Hashssissidicks.
Tell us, if you will, how you developed detailed genetic maps of said "subsets",
You are particularly ignorant of Jewish demographics
and the subsets of the American Jewish population.
and also how you kept it a secret from all the other spittle-spewing yahoos
in your synagogue.
You are also a certified idiot,Study up:
The differences between Ashkenazis and its subset of Hasidic's
are not at all genetic. The differences are cultural, sociological, and of religious practice.
you don't have a foggiest clue.
https://www.jewfaq.org/ashkenazic_and_sephardic
Who are Ashkenazic Jews?
Ashkenazic Jews are the Jews of France, Germany, and Eastern Europe and their descendants. The adjective "Ashkenazic" and corresponding nouns, Ashkenazi (singular) and Ashkenazim (plural) are derived from the Hebrew word "Ashkenaz," which is used to refer to Germany. Most American Jews
today are Ashkenazim, descended from Jews who emigrated from Germany and Eastern Europe from the mid 1800s to the early 1900s.
On 7/23/23 7:36 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 4:54:33 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/23/23 1:45 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:27:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
However much ACE2 coding variants have or have not been shown to affect >> COVID outcomes, you're a long way from showing design.
Not at all my intent.Just defending the scientific integrity of RFK jr?
Kennedy NEVER said it was designed. He said thatAnd repeated old studies speculating about Jewish immunity. Draw your
future viruses CAN be designed.
own conclusions.
On 7/23/23 7:33 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:29:29 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/23/23 1:41 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:27:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Now show if that changed outcomes after April, 2020. Then show it
On 7/22/23 8:45 PM, Art Sackman wrote:Prevalence of deleterious variants among Latino/Admixed American
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32844124/
(AMR), East Asian (EAS), Finnish (FIN), and South Asian (SAS)
populations is 2–10%, while Amish (AMI) and Ashkenazi Jewish
(ASJ) populations do not appear to carry such variants in ACE2
coding regions (Fig. 1b).
was designed to make a difference.
Irrelevant, because Kennedy did not say that it was so designed.True, he said "'ethnically targeted," according to the New York Post.
Now show it was ethnically targeted.
He merely made the point that a virus COULD be designed toAnd there's nothing implicated by that "draw your own conclusions" progression?:
discriminate by ethnicity. And talked about a study that indicated
that it was a possibility.
Bioweapons could target races,
COVID might have been created in a biolab,
COVID spares Jews and Chinese,
therefore...
BTW, Marxist Steve, as you are so insistent on labelling Kennedy as
an antisemite, are you ready to label Tlaib, AOC, and Omar as
antisemites?
When they claim Jews secretly control the world and create bioweapons to kill white people, I will condemn them.
And Kennedy DEFINITELY did NOT say they are creating bioweapons to kill white people.
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 10:08:42 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/23/23 8:32 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 9:12:29 PM UTC-4, Fascist Flea wrote:Study up:
I am nonplused. The Sackpoop is suddenly claiming to be a genetics eckthpurt,
with a concentration in Asskissingazi and Hashssissidicks.
Tell us, if you will, how you developed detailed genetic maps of said "subsets",
You are particularly ignorant of Jewish demographics
and the subsets of the American Jewish population.
and also how you kept it a secret from all the other spittle-spewing yahoos
in your synagogue.
You are also a certified idiot,
The differences between Ashkenazis and its subset of Hasidic's
are not at all genetic. The differences are cultural, sociological, and of >>> religious practice.
you don't have a foggiest clue.
https://www.jewfaq.org/ashkenazic_and_sephardic
Who are Ashkenazic Jews?
Ashkenazic Jews are the Jews of France, Germany, and Eastern Europe and
their descendants. The adjective "Ashkenazic" and corresponding nouns,
Ashkenazi (singular) and Ashkenazim (plural) are derived from the Hebrew
word "Ashkenaz," which is used to refer to Germany. Most American Jews
today are Ashkenazim, descended from Jews who emigrated from Germany and
Eastern Europe from the mid 1800s to the early 1900s.
You FINALLY figured out Ahkenazi's. I congratulate you.
Now maybe you will be able to figure out that The Hassidic are but a subset.
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 10:05:41 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/23/23 7:45 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 4:31:17 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Hasidics are predominantly Ashkenazi. If you're saying modern Ashkenazi
On 7/23/23 1:48 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:15:00 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:The NYC Ashkenazi are lying about catching COVID?
On 7/22/23 5:25 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 4:49:10 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 7/22/23 1:02 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
The number of Hasidim in New York has doubled, from around fifty >>>>>>> thousand to over one hundred thousand, in twenty years. fromNone of that shows Ashkenazi Jews were spared COVID.
www.pbs.org/alifeapart/intro_91.html
It's part of the complete picture.
I am sure you are just as against cherry-picking as I am.
and it shows that your picture of Ashkenazi's
being over infected is fake news, misinformation, and a pack of blatant lies.
I must correct you. You make the same recurring error.
You must mean NYC Hasidic.
Hassidic are but a
subset of Ashkenazis.
I am Ashkenazi, and I am not Hassidic.
I was born in NYC.
It was the HAsidics n particular who were susceptible, not the Ashkenazi at large.
who observed lockdowns and took precautions had less COVID, you're
making a different point.
Reuters: "Hasidim are Ashkenazi Jews from Poland, Hungary, Romania,
Ukraine and Russia. Their spiritual and mystical Judaism emerged in the
18th century in reaction to traditional schools such as the Lithuanian
and modernising trends developing in Europe."
Your brain fog is beginning to clear.
But it is still there.
I known all this stuff for the past fifty years,
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 9:51:31 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/23/23 7:36 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 4:54:33 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Just defending the scientific integrity of RFK jr?
On 7/23/23 1:45 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:27:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
However much ACE2 coding variants have or have not been shown to affect >>>> COVID outcomes, you're a long way from showing design.
Not at all my intent.
Kennedy NEVER said it was designed. He said thatAnd repeated old studies speculating about Jewish immunity. Draw your
future viruses CAN be designed.
own conclusions.
The study I presented had something to it, when examined in its intended context.
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 9:47:00 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/23/23 7:33 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:29:29 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:True, he said "'ethnically targeted," according to the New York Post.
On 7/23/23 1:41 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:27:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Now show if that changed outcomes after April, 2020. Then show it
On 7/22/23 8:45 PM, Art Sackman wrote:Prevalence of deleterious variants among Latino/Admixed American
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32844124/
(AMR), East Asian (EAS), Finnish (FIN), and South Asian (SAS)
populations is 2–10%, while Amish (AMI) and Ashkenazi Jewish
(ASJ) populations do not appear to carry such variants in ACE2
coding regions (Fig. 1b).
was designed to make a difference.
Irrelevant, because Kennedy did not say that it was so designed.
Now show it was ethnically targeted.
He merely made the point that a virus COULD be designed toAnd there's nothing implicated by that "draw your own conclusions"
discriminate by ethnicity. And talked about a study that indicated
that it was a possibility.
progression?:
Bioweapons could target races,
COVID might have been created in a biolab,
COVID spares Jews and Chinese,
therefore...
BTW, Marxist Steve, as you are so insistent on labelling Kennedy as
an antisemite, are you ready to label Tlaib, AOC, and Omar as
antisemites?
When they claim Jews secretly control the world and create bioweapons to
kill white people, I will condemn them.
Squad members have said that Jews control US foreign policy,
and that they are of dual loyalty.
I heard ABSOLUTELY NO condemnation from you.
And Kennedy DEFINITELY did NOT say they are creating bioweapons to kill white people.
On 7/24/23 1:13 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 9:51:31 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/23/23 7:36 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 4:54:33 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Just defending the scientific integrity of RFK jr?
On 7/23/23 1:45 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:27:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
However much ACE2 coding variants have or have not been shown to affect >>>> COVID outcomes, you're a long way from showing design.
Not at all my intent.
Kennedy NEVER said it was designed. He said thatAnd repeated old studies speculating about Jewish immunity. Draw your
future viruses CAN be designed.
own conclusions.
The study I presented had something to it, when examined in its intended context.Speculation as of April, 2020 that didn't pan out. Three years later he should know better.
Of course, he's been known to express other long debunked views.
On 7/24/23 1:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 10:05:41 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:<snip>
On 7/23/23 7:45 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 4:31:17 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Hasidics are predominantly Ashkenazi. If you're saying modern Ashkenazi >> who observed lockdowns and took precautions had less COVID, you're
On 7/23/23 1:48 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:15:00 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:The NYC Ashkenazi are lying about catching COVID?
On 7/22/23 5:25 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 4:49:10 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 7/22/23 1:02 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
The number of Hasidim in New York has doubled, from around fifty >>>>>>> thousand to over one hundred thousand, in twenty years. fromNone of that shows Ashkenazi Jews were spared COVID.
www.pbs.org/alifeapart/intro_91.html
It's part of the complete picture.
I am sure you are just as against cherry-picking as I am.
and it shows that your picture of Ashkenazi's
being over infected is fake news, misinformation, and a pack of blatant lies.
I must correct you. You make the same recurring error.
You must mean NYC Hasidic.
Hassidic are but a
subset of Ashkenazis.
I am Ashkenazi, and I am not Hassidic.
I was born in NYC.
It was the HAsidics n particular who were susceptible, not the Ashkenazi at large.
making a different point.
Reuters: "Hasidim are Ashkenazi Jews from Poland, Hungary, Romania,
Ukraine and Russia. Their spiritual and mystical Judaism emerged in the >> 18th century in reaction to traditional schools such as the Lithuanian
and modernising trends developing in Europe."
Your brain fog is beginning to clear.
But it is still there.
I known all this stuff for the past fifty years,
Why did you did distinguish Hasid from Ashkenazi when I pointed out
rates of COVID? Also, why are you taking me to task for quoting Rabbi Shmuley Boteach? I'm no expert but his name and honorific look Jewish to me.
Lab engineered viruses can be designed to target ethnic and racial groups.
On 7/24/23 1:12 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 10:05:41 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:<snip>
On 7/23/23 7:45 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 4:31:17 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Hasidics are predominantly Ashkenazi. If you're saying modern Ashkenazi >> who observed lockdowns and took precautions had less COVID, you're
On 7/23/23 1:48 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:15:00 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:The NYC Ashkenazi are lying about catching COVID?
On 7/22/23 5:25 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 4:49:10 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 7/22/23 1:02 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
The number of Hasidim in New York has doubled, from around fifty >>>>>>> thousand to over one hundred thousand, in twenty years. fromNone of that shows Ashkenazi Jews were spared COVID.
www.pbs.org/alifeapart/intro_91.html
It's part of the complete picture.
I am sure you are just as against cherry-picking as I am.
and it shows that your picture of Ashkenazi's
being over infected is fake news, misinformation, and a pack of blatant lies.
I must correct you. You make the same recurring error.
You must mean NYC Hasidic.
Hassidic are but a
subset of Ashkenazis.
I am Ashkenazi, and I am not Hassidic.
I was born in NYC.
It was the HAsidics n particular who were susceptible, not the Ashkenazi at large.
making a different point.
Reuters: "Hasidim are Ashkenazi Jews from Poland, Hungary, Romania,
Ukraine and Russia. Their spiritual and mystical Judaism emerged in the >> 18th century in reaction to traditional schools such as the Lithuanian
and modernising trends developing in Europe."
Your brain fog is beginning to clear.
But it is still there.
I known all this stuff for the past fifty years,Why did you did distinguish Hasid from Ashkenazi when I pointed out
rates of COVID? Also, why are you taking me to task for quoting Rabbi Shmuley Boteach? I'm no expert but his name and honorific look Jewish to me.
On 7/24/23 1:18 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 9:47:00 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/23/23 7:33 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:29:29 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:True, he said "'ethnically targeted," according to the New York Post.
On 7/23/23 1:41 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:27:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Now show if that changed outcomes after April, 2020. Then show it
On 7/22/23 8:45 PM, Art Sackman wrote:Prevalence of deleterious variants among Latino/Admixed American
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32844124/
(AMR), East Asian (EAS), Finnish (FIN), and South Asian (SAS)
populations is 2–10%, while Amish (AMI) and Ashkenazi Jewish
(ASJ) populations do not appear to carry such variants in ACE2
coding regions (Fig. 1b).
was designed to make a difference.
Irrelevant, because Kennedy did not say that it was so designed.
Now show it was ethnically targeted.
He merely made the point that a virus COULD be designed toAnd there's nothing implicated by that "draw your own conclusions"
discriminate by ethnicity. And talked about a study that indicated
that it was a possibility.
progression?:
Bioweapons could target races,
COVID might have been created in a biolab,
COVID spares Jews and Chinese,
therefore...
BTW, Marxist Steve, as you are so insistent on labelling Kennedy as
an antisemite, are you ready to label Tlaib, AOC, and Omar as
antisemites?
When they claim Jews secretly control the world and create bioweapons to >> kill white people, I will condemn them.
Squad members have said that Jews control US foreign policy,So did Trump. Have at. This is, of course, a deflection from RFK jr's "logic" outlined above.
and that they are of dual loyalty.
I heard ABSOLUTELY NO condemnation from you.That's because you overstated the case. Saying the US supports the
Israeli government is not the same thing.
And Kennedy DEFINITELY did NOT say they are creating bioweapons to kill white people.Just that whites and blacks could have been targeted.
On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 3:20:11 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/24/23 1:13 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 9:51:31 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Speculation as of April, 2020 that didn't pan out. Three years later he
On 7/23/23 7:36 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 4:54:33 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:Just defending the scientific integrity of RFK jr?
On 7/23/23 1:45 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:27:22 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
However much ACE2 coding variants have or have not been shown to affect >>>>>> COVID outcomes, you're a long way from showing design.
Not at all my intent.
Kennedy NEVER said it was designed. He said thatAnd repeated old studies speculating about Jewish immunity. Draw your
future viruses CAN be designed.
own conclusions.
The study I presented had something to it, when examined in its intended context.
should know better.
Of course, he's been known to express other long debunked views.
OH NO
Don't tell me he was in on the Steele dossier, hoax
pissing on Obama's bed, Hillary's election smears, and
that the laptop was a Russian plant.
On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 3:18:20 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/24/23 1:18 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
But that is not the crux of what she said.
She said American Jews have undue influence and are more loyal
to Israel than to the US.
And Kennedy DEFINITELY did NOT say they are creating bioweapons to kill white people.Just that whites and blacks could have been targeted.
Finally you make a true statement.
Lab engineered viruses can be designed to target ethnic and racial groups.
On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 3:13:56 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
Why did you did distinguish Hasid from Ashkenazi when I pointed out
rates of COVID? Also, why are you taking me to task for quoting Rabbi
Shmuley Boteach? I'm no expert but his name and honorific look Jewish to me.
You still don't get it.
1) Almost all Hassidic are Ashkenazi
2) A majority of all US Ashkenazi are not Hassidic.
3) The Hassidic communities of NYC behaved
in ways that even other Hassidic communities across the USA did not.
I'm only taking you to task for providing absolutely irrelevant quotes.
It's nothing directed against Rabbi Boteach, whom I have been aware of
for a number of years. He is very Jewish, indeed. He is an adherent of the late Rabbi Schneerson, the primary Lubavitch leader(a subset of the subset Hassidic, which is a subset if Ashkenazi)
lesson Number 2
All Lubavitch are Hassidic
Not all Hassidic are Lubavitch
I know a good deal about the Lubavitch
I had a Lubavitch coworker and friend for many years.
My father, though an Eshknazi atheist, in his retirement, associated with the Lubavitch
community in Poway and was friends with the rabbi, and had many discussions with them on religion, ethics, etc.
Many years after my father's death, that Chabad was attacked, several lives were lost, and my father's friend,
the Rabbi, was injured.
So believe me, I have nothing against Rabbi Boteach.
On 7/24/23 4:43 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 3:13:56 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
Why did you did distinguish Hasid from Ashkenazi when I pointed out
rates of COVID? Also, why are you taking me to task for quoting Rabbi
Shmuley Boteach? I'm no expert but his name and honorific look Jewish to me.
You still don't get it.If behavior is the dividing line, doesn't that make the genetic thing
1) Almost all Hassidic are Ashkenazi
2) A majority of all US Ashkenazi are not Hassidic.
3) The Hassidic communities of NYC behaved
in ways that even other Hassidic communities across the USA did not.
beside the point?
I'm only taking you to task for providing absolutely irrelevant quotes. It's nothing directed against Rabbi Boteach, whom I have been aware ofThe quote seems to be a direct anecdotal contradiction of RFK jr's claim.
for a number of years. He is very Jewish, indeed. He is an adherent of the late Rabbi Schneerson, the primary Lubavitch leader(a subset of the subset Hassidic, which is a subset if Ashkenazi)
lesson Number 2
All Lubavitch are HassidicAnd not all Ashkenazim are Hassidic.
Not all Hassidic are Lubavitch
I know a good deal about the Lubavitch
I had a Lubavitch coworker and friend for many years.Are you reclaiming that spelling?
My father, though an Eshknazi atheist, in his retirement, associated with the Lubavitch
community in Poway and was friends with the rabbi, and had many discussions
with them on religion, ethics, etc.
Many years after my father's death, that Chabad was attacked, several lives were lost, and my father's friend,
the Rabbi, was injured.
So believe me, I have nothing against Rabbi Boteach.I appreciate the personal anecdote, but it adds nothing to the RFK jr problem.
RFK Jr....a horror of democracy in action.
The real horror is your thread hijacking.
On 7/25/23 1:25 PM, ScottW wrote:
RFK Jr....a horror of democracy in action.
The real horror is your thread hijacking.Hijacked from mocking Debbie Wasserman Schultz for criticizing RFK jr to criticizing RFK jr.
Stay away from scary movies.
On 7/25/23 1:25 PM, ScottW wrote:
RFK Jr....a horror of democracy in action.
The real horror is your thread hijacking.Hijacked from mocking Debbie Wasserman Schultz for criticizing RFK jr to criticizing RFK jr.
Stay away from scary movies.
On 7/24/23 4:43 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 3:13:56 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
Why did you did distinguish Hasid from Ashkenazi when I pointed out
rates of COVID? Also, why are you taking me to task for quoting Rabbi
Shmuley Boteach? I'm no expert but his name and honorific look Jewish to me.
You still don't get it.If behavior is the dividing line, doesn't that make the genetic thing
1) Almost all Hassidic are Ashkenazi
2) A majority of all US Ashkenazi are not Hassidic.
3) The Hassidic communities of NYC behaved
in ways that even other Hassidic communities across the USA did not.
beside the point?
I'm only taking you to task for providing absolutely irrelevant quotes. It's nothing directed against Rabbi Boteach, whom I have been aware ofThe quote seems to be a direct anecdotal contradiction of RFK jr's claim.
for a number of years. He is very Jewish, indeed. He is an adherent of the late Rabbi Schneerson, the primary Lubavitch leader(a subset of the subset Hassidic, which is a subset if Ashkenazi)
lesson Number 2
All Lubavitch are HassidicAnd not all Ashkenazim are Hassidic.
Not all Hassidic are Lubavitch
I know a good deal about the Lubavitch
I had a Lubavitch coworker and friend for many years.Are you reclaiming that spelling?
My father, though an Eshknazi atheist, in his retirement, associated with the Lubavitch
community in Poway and was friends with the rabbi, and had many discussions
with them on religion, ethics, etc.
Many years after my father's death, that Chabad was attacked, several lives were lost, and my father's friend,
the Rabbi, was injured.
So believe me, I have nothing against Rabbi Boteach.I appreciate the personal anecdote, but it adds nothing to the RFK jr problem.
On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 12:54:39 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/25/23 1:25 PM, ScottW wrote:
RFK Jr....a horror of democracy in action.Hijacked from mocking Debbie Wasserman Schultz for criticizing RFK jr to
The real horror is your thread hijacking.
criticizing RFK jr.
Stay away from scary movies.
Aren't you on strike? Or has the guild rejected you for lack of talent?
On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 10:29:22 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/24/23 4:43 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
I know a good deal about the LubavitchAre you reclaiming that spelling?
I had a Lubavitch coworker and friend for many years. My father,
though an Eshknazi atheist, in his retirement, associated with
the Lubavitch community in Poway and was friends with the rabbi,
and had many discussions with them on religion, ethics, etc.
Many years after my father's death, that Chabad was attacked,I appreciate the personal anecdote, but it adds nothing to the RFK
several lives were lost, and my father's friend, the Rabbi, was
injured.
So believe me, I have nothing against Rabbi Boteach.
jr problem.
Because there is no problem.
On 7/25/23 4:36 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 12:54:39 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/25/23 1:25 PM, ScottW wrote:
RFK Jr....a horror of democracy in action.Hijacked from mocking Debbie Wasserman Schultz for criticizing RFK jr to >> criticizing RFK jr.
The real horror is your thread hijacking.
Stay away from scary movies.
Aren't you on strike? Or has the guild rejected you for lack of talent?It's good you're boycotting but you should also beware even previously produced scary movies.
Speaking of thread hijacking, what does my talent level have to do with
RFK jr and Debbie Wasserman Schultz?
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 10:45:26 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/25/23 6:05 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 10:29:22 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
Yes, it's been shown his "just asking questions" topic is completelyI appreciate the personal anecdote, but it adds nothing to the RFK
jr problem.
Because there is no problem.
debunked. No doubt, no problem.
Your LIES debunk nothing,
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 10:27:10 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/25/23 4:36 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 12:54:39 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:It's good you're boycotting but you should also beware even previously
On 7/25/23 1:25 PM, ScottW wrote:
RFK Jr....a horror of democracy in action.Hijacked from mocking Debbie Wasserman Schultz for criticizing RFK jr to >>>> criticizing RFK jr.
The real horror is your thread hijacking.
Stay away from scary movies.
Aren't you on strike? Or has the guild rejected you for lack of talent?
produced scary movies.
Speaking of thread hijacking, what does my talent level have to do with
RFK jr and Debbie Wasserman Schultz?
Why are you so defensive about your talent level?
On 7/25/23 6:05 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 10:29:22 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/24/23 4:43 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
I know a good deal about the LubavitchAre you reclaiming that spelling?
I had a Lubavitch coworker and friend for many years. My father,
though an Eshknazi atheist, in his retirement, associated with
the Lubavitch community in Poway and was friends with the rabbi,
and had many discussions with them on religion, ethics, etc.
Many years after my father's death, that Chabad was attacked,I appreciate the personal anecdote, but it adds nothing to the RFK
several lives were lost, and my father's friend, the Rabbi, was
injured.
So believe me, I have nothing against Rabbi Boteach.
jr problem.
Because there is no problem.Yes, it's been shown his "just asking questions" topic is completely debunked. No doubt, no problem.
Self-proclaimed levels of talent aren't convincing anyway.
On 7/26/23 3:59 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 10:27:10 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/25/23 4:36 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 12:54:39 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:produced scary movies.
On 7/25/23 1:25 PM, ScottW wrote:
RFK Jr....a horror of democracy in action.Hijacked from mocking Debbie Wasserman Schultz for criticizing RFK jr to
The real horror is your thread hijacking.
criticizing RFK jr.
Stay away from scary movies.
Aren't you on strike? Or has the guild rejected you for lack of talent? >> It's good you're boycotting but you should also beware even previously
Speaking of thread hijacking, what does my talent level have to do with >> RFK jr and Debbie Wasserman Schultz?
Why are you so defensive about your talent level?I'm not. Self-proclaimed levels of talent aren't convincing anyway.
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