and thankfully, he is apparently going to be ok.ventricular hypertrophy in anabolic steroid users, while arrhythmias and vascular injury also occur. High doses of testosterone, use of growth factors, classic agents such as stanozolol, and commonly used injectable drugs like trenbolone; all induce
Now one has to wonder....what causes a healthy 18 year old kid to have a heart attack?
This kid has been playing competitive basketball since he was very young. Daddy has long said he wants to play in the NBA with his son.
So Bronny has obviously had a goal of NBA basketball player since a young boy.
The medical community has studied the cause of cardiac problems in young athletes.
"Athletes should be questioned about the usage of performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs), specifically anabolic steroids and stimulants. These agents induce the risk of sudden cardiac death through multiple mechanisms. The most common mechanism is left
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK539708/
ScottW
On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 11:22:02 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:ventricular hypertrophy in anabolic steroid users, while arrhythmias and vascular injury also occur. High doses of testosterone, use of growth factors, classic agents such as stanozolol, and commonly used injectable drugs like trenbolone; all induce
and thankfully, he is apparently going to be ok.
Now one has to wonder....what causes a healthy 18 year old kid to have a heart attack?
This kid has been playing competitive basketball since he was very young. Daddy has long said he wants to play in the NBA with his son.
So Bronny has obviously had a goal of NBA basketball player since a young boy.
The medical community has studied the cause of cardiac problems in young athletes.
"Athletes should be questioned about the usage of performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs), specifically anabolic steroids and stimulants. These agents induce the risk of sudden cardiac death through multiple mechanisms. The most common mechanism is left
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK539708/
ScottWBack in the 70's, U of MD basketball players Owen Brown and Chris Patton died
from on court heart stoppage issues. Caused by irregularities in the heart.
and thankfully, he is apparently going to be ok.
Now one has to wonder....what causes a healthy 18 year old kid to have a heart attack?
On 7/25/23 10:22 PM, ScottW wrote:
and thankfully, he is apparently going to be ok.
Now one has to wonder....what causes a healthy 18 year old kid to have a heart attack?It's not unknown for young athletes to have cardiac problems. It's why student athletes get heart screenings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_cardiac_death_of_athletes
You probably remember Reggie Lewis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertrophic_cardiomyopathy
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 7:57:08 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/25/23 10:22 PM, ScottW wrote:
and thankfully, he is apparently going to be ok.It's not unknown for young athletes to have cardiac problems. It's why
Now one has to wonder....what causes a healthy 18 year old kid to have a heart attack?
student athletes get heart screenings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_cardiac_death_of_athletes
You probably remember Reggie Lewis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertrophic_cardiomyopathy
2003 old
On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 8:24:54 PM UTC-7, Art Sackman wrote:ventricular hypertrophy in anabolic steroid users, while arrhythmias and vascular injury also occur. High doses of testosterone, use of growth factors, classic agents such as stanozolol, and commonly used injectable drugs like trenbolone; all induce
On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 11:22:02 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
and thankfully, he is apparently going to be ok.
Now one has to wonder....what causes a healthy 18 year old kid to have a heart attack?
This kid has been playing competitive basketball since he was very young. Daddy has long said he wants to play in the NBA with his son.
So Bronny has obviously had a goal of NBA basketball player since a young boy.
The medical community has studied the cause of cardiac problems in young athletes.
"Athletes should be questioned about the usage of performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs), specifically anabolic steroids and stimulants. These agents induce the risk of sudden cardiac death through multiple mechanisms. The most common mechanism is left
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK539708/
Left ventricular hypertrophy is considered an irregularity.ScottWBack in the 70's, U of MD basketball players Owen Brown and Chris Patton died
from on court heart stoppage issues. Caused by irregularities in the heart.
You may have it....caused by high blood pressure in old farts.
But other causes in 18 year old athletes.
ScottW
On 7/26/23 12:30 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 7:57:08 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/25/23 10:22 PM, ScottW wrote:
and thankfully, he is apparently going to be ok.It's not unknown for young athletes to have cardiac problems. It's why
Now one has to wonder....what causes a healthy 18 year old kid to have a heart attack?
student athletes get heart screenings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_cardiac_death_of_athletes
You probably remember Reggie Lewis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertrophic_cardiomyopathy
2003 oldLast revision: 12 May 2023
On 7/26/23 12:30 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 7:57:08 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/25/23 10:22 PM, ScottW wrote:
and thankfully, he is apparently going to be ok.It's not unknown for young athletes to have cardiac problems. It's why
Now one has to wonder....what causes a healthy 18 year old kid to have a heart attack?
student athletes get heart screenings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_cardiac_death_of_athletes
You probably remember Reggie Lewis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertrophic_cardiomyopathy
2003 oldLast revision: 12 May 2023
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 11:32:48 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/26/23 12:30 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 7:57:08 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Last revision: 12 May 2023
On 7/25/23 10:22 PM, ScottW wrote:
and thankfully, he is apparently going to be ok.It's not unknown for young athletes to have cardiac problems. It's why >>>> student athletes get heart screenings.
Now one has to wonder....what causes a healthy 18 year old kid to have a heart attack?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_cardiac_death_of_athletes
You probably remember Reggie Lewis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertrophic_cardiomyopathy
2003 old
Do you really want to prove how ignorant and stupid you are?
The edit recorded for this Wiki entry on that date was
19:16, 12 May 2023 diff hist −863 Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy nothing I just wanted to see how the editing tool worked Tags: Reverted Visual edit references removed
Let me repeat the important part in case you missed it.
" nothing I just wanted to see how the editing tool worked"
WTFU Stephen.
On 7/27/23 12:24 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 11:32:48 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/26/23 12:30 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 7:57:08 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Last revision: 12 May 2023
On 7/25/23 10:22 PM, ScottW wrote:
and thankfully, he is apparently going to be ok.It's not unknown for young athletes to have cardiac problems. It's why >>>> student athletes get heart screenings.
Now one has to wonder....what causes a healthy 18 year old kid to have a heart attack?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_cardiac_death_of_athletes
You probably remember Reggie Lewis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertrophic_cardiomyopathy
2003 old
Do you really want to prove how ignorant and stupid you are?
The edit recorded for this Wiki entry on that date was
19:16, 12 May 2023 diff hist −863 Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy nothing I just wanted to see how the editing tool worked Tags: Reverted Visual edit references removed
Let me repeat the important part in case you missed it.
" nothing I just wanted to see how the editing tool worked"
WTFU Stephen.Made you look.
While the last two edits were a self-cancelling test,
there's a series of edits, lots of activity, indicating the page is constantly revised and up to date.
On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 7:23:45 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/27/23 12:24 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 11:32:48 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Made you look.
On 7/26/23 12:30 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 7:57:08 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Last revision: 12 May 2023
On 7/25/23 10:22 PM, ScottW wrote:
and thankfully, he is apparently going to be ok.It's not unknown for young athletes to have cardiac problems. It's why >>>>>> student athletes get heart screenings.
Now one has to wonder....what causes a healthy 18 year old kid to have a heart attack?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_cardiac_death_of_athletes
You probably remember Reggie Lewis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertrophic_cardiomyopathy
2003 old
Do you really want to prove how ignorant and stupid you are?
The edit recorded for this Wiki entry on that date was
19:16, 12 May 2023 diff hist −863 Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy nothing I just wanted to see how the editing tool worked Tags: Reverted Visual edit references removed
Let me repeat the important part in case you missed it.
" nothing I just wanted to see how the editing tool worked"
WTFU Stephen.
In the footprints of a flea.
While the last two edits were a self-cancelling test,
there's a series of edits, lots of activity, indicating the page is
constantly revised and up to date.
The page may be but the paper referenced remains and always will be from 2003.
On 7/27/23 10:50 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 7:23:45 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/27/23 12:24 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 11:32:48 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:Made you look.
On 7/26/23 12:30 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 7:57:08 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>> On 7/25/23 10:22 PM, ScottW wrote:Last revision: 12 May 2023
and thankfully, he is apparently going to be ok.It's not unknown for young athletes to have cardiac problems. It's why
Now one has to wonder....what causes a healthy 18 year old kid to have a heart attack?
student athletes get heart screenings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_cardiac_death_of_athletes
You probably remember Reggie Lewis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertrophic_cardiomyopathy
2003 old
Do you really want to prove how ignorant and stupid you are?
The edit recorded for this Wiki entry on that date was
19:16, 12 May 2023 diff hist −863 Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy nothing I just wanted to see how the editing tool worked Tags: Reverted Visual edit references removed
Let me repeat the important part in case you missed it.
" nothing I just wanted to see how the editing tool worked"
WTFU Stephen.
In the footprints of a flea.Wiki can be like that.
While the last two edits were a self-cancelling test,
there's a series of edits, lots of activity, indicating the page is
constantly revised and up to date.
The page may be but the paper referenced remains and always will be from 2003.If you look carefully, you'll find:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/203513
October 4, 2006
"Trends in Sudden Cardiovascular Death in Young Competitive Athletes
After Implementation of a Preparticipation Screening Program"
https://doi.org/10.1161%2FCIRCULATIONAHA.108.804617
Sudden Deaths in Young Competitive Athletes
Analysis of 1866 Deaths in the United States, 1980–2006
Barry J. Maron, Joseph J. Doerer, Tammy S. Haas, David M. Tierney and Frederick O. Mueller
Originally published16 Feb 2009
Conclusions
"Competitive athletes represent a unique segment of the general
population, with a lifestyle characterized by vigorous and systematic physical exertion. However, some athletes are subject to the risk of
sudden death, usually due to underlying (and predominantly unsuspected) cardiovascular disease but also due to trauma or other causes. Such catastrophes are always unexpected events, and although clearly uncommon relative to the vast number of athletes participating safely in a wide variety of organized sports, they nevertheless have a devastating impact
on families, communities, and physicians and attract considerable public
and media attention."
The point that Bronny's health incident is rare but not anomalous
remains no matter how old these articles are.
On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 9:08:58 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
That paragraph is meaningless and offers nothing on the root causes
of young athletes cardiac issues.
I'm sure in autopsy for many of the unfortunate who actually died
they may find hypertrophy but not be able to identify an underlying
cause so it's chalked up as cardiovascular disease. But additional
research has begun to reveal some possible and even probable causes
that aren't of your typical "disease" variety.
Here's an article which highlights the struggle of pathologists to
even be able to determine hypertrophy as the cause of death....let
alone identify the cause of the hypertrophy.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6713129/
On 7/27/23 4:56 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 9:08:58 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
"Competitive athletes represent a unique segment of the general
population, with a lifestyle characterized by vigorous and systematic physical exertion. However, some athletes are subject to the risk of
sudden death, usually due to underlying (and predominantly unsuspected) cardiovascular disease but also due to trauma or other causes. Such catastrophes are always unexpected events, and although clearly uncommon relative to the vast number of athletes participating safely in a wide variety of organized sports, they nevertheless have a devastating impact
on families, communities, and physicians and attract considerable public
and media attention."
That paragraph is meaningless and offers nothing on the root causesRoot causes? That's what the study is about: it analyzes "1866 Deaths in
of young athletes cardiac issues.
the United States, 1980–2006."
https://doi.org/10.1161%2FCIRCULATIONAHA.108.804617
Look for "Causes of Death."
I'm sure in autopsy for many of the unfortunate who actually diedYou're a coroner, too? Your expertise is boundless.
they may find hypertrophy but not be able to identify an underlying
cause so it's chalked up as cardiovascular disease. But additional research has begun to reveal some possible and even probable causes
that aren't of your typical "disease" variety.
Here's an article which highlights the struggle of pathologists to
even be able to determine hypertrophy as the cause of death....let
alone identify the cause of the hypertrophy.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6713129/"It is recognized that sudden death from conditions associated with significant LVH is not rare. In addition, in many autopsies where
myocardial hypertrophy is identified, the severity of the myocardial
disease is more than sufficient to increase the risk of
arrhythmogenesis, the history often coheres with a sudden cardiac death
and the remaining postmortem examination (including ancillary studies)
fails to identify an alternative cause for death."
That means the hypertrophy is the cause and there wasn't a different
cause found in addition. Athletes have thick hearts due to all that exercise.
On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 4:53:23 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 7/27/23 4:56 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 9:08:58 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
"Competitive athletes represent a unique segment of the general
population, with a lifestyle characterized by vigorous and
systematic physical exertion. However, some athletes are subject to
the risk of sudden death, usually due to underlying (and
predominantly unsuspected) cardiovascular disease but also due to
trauma or other causes. Such catastrophes are always unexpected
events, and although clearly uncommon relative to the vast number
of athletes participating safely in a wide variety of organized
sports, they nevertheless have a devastating impact on families,
communities, and physicians and attract considerable public and
media attention."
That paragraph is meaningless and offers nothing on the rootRoot causes? That's what the study is about: it analyzes "1866
causes of young athletes cardiac issues.
Deaths in the United States, 1980–2006."
https://doi.org/10.1161%2FCIRCULATIONAHA.108.804617
Look for "Causes of Death."
I'm sure in autopsy for many of the unfortunate who actuallyYou're a coroner, too? Your expertise is boundless.
died they may find hypertrophy but not be able to identify an
underlying cause so it's chalked up as cardiovascular disease.
But additional research has begun to reveal some possible and
even probable causes that aren't of your typical "disease"
variety.
Here's an article which highlights the struggle of pathologists"It is recognized that sudden death from conditions associated
to even be able to determine hypertrophy as the cause of
death....let alone identify the cause of the hypertrophy.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6713129/
with significant LVH is not rare. In addition, in many autopsies
where myocardial hypertrophy is identified, the severity of the
myocardial disease is more than sufficient to increase the risk of
arrhythmogenesis, the history often coheres with a sudden cardiac
death and the remaining postmortem examination (including ancillary
studies) fails to identify an alternative cause for death."
That means the hypertrophy is the cause and there wasn't a
different cause found in addition. Athletes have thick hearts due
to all that exercise.
Now you're making shit up.
There are root causes which often go unidentified for hypertrophy that
are just now being studied as I showed in my original post.
Hypertrophy is a symptom just like being dead is a symptom. But
I'll bet that is too confusing for you.
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