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  • Joe polls are "catastrophic"

    From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 10 09:25:09 2023
    Longtime Democratic pollster John Zogby has always liked President Joe Biden.

    “I think that he’ll be regarded as a great president,” he said Friday on a podcast he shares with his son Jeremy Zogby, also a pollster.

    But even the Biden fan in chief sees a disaster around the corner for the Democrat’s reelection chances based on new polling from CNN.

    “This new poll is catastrophic for the president,” said Zogby, who anchors the liberal desk in the Secrets Weekly White House Report Card published on Saturdays.

    While concerned about Biden’s extremely low approval rating, “lower than his three immediate predecessors were at this stage,” Zogby focused on the Democratic numbers in the CNN survey that show liberals want Biden out of the race.

    After flipping through Biden’s 39% approval rating and the feeling by a large majority that they are worse off under Biden, Zogby turned to those who don’t want Biden to run again, at an eye-popping 73%, he said.

    “That includes up to 65% of Democrats, which is devastating,” Zogby said.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/zogby-catastrophic-disaster-brewing-for-biden-reelection

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 10 19:40:12 2023
    https://jabberwocking.com/for-the-last-time-joe-biden-is-not-unpopular/

    Ross Douthat joins a cast of millions today to ask:

    Why Is Joe Biden So Unpopular?

    The answer is: he's not. How often do I have to post this chart before
    the message gets through? Here are our last four presidents at week 133
    of their first terms:

    [Biden, Obama, Trump, Clinton roughly equal at 133 week in office]

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 10 20:40:37 2023
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:40:15 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    https://jabberwocking.com/for-the-last-time-joe-biden-is-not-unpopular/

    Ross Douthat joins a cast of millions today to ask:

    Why Is Joe Biden So Unpopular?

    The answer is: he's not. How often do I have to post this chart before
    the message gets through? Here are our last four presidents at week 133
    of their first terms:

    [Biden, Obama, Trump, Clinton roughly equal at 133 week in office]

    How often do I have to remind you that Biden is at 39, not at just under 50 as that chart implies.
    And what a poorly designed chart. No guide markers between 0 and 50

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 10 20:49:58 2023
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:40:15 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    https://jabberwocking.com/for-the-last-time-joe-biden-is-not-unpopular/

    Ross Douthat joins a cast of millions today to ask:

    Why Is Joe Biden So Unpopular?

    The answer is: he's not. How often do I have to post this chart before
    the message gets through? Here are our last four presidents at week 133
    of their first terms:

    [Biden, Obama, Trump, Clinton roughly equal at 133 week in office]

    What do you know that Zogby doesn't know?

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Mon Sep 11 07:05:16 2023
    On 9/10/23 10:49 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:40:15 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    https://jabberwocking.com/for-the-last-time-joe-biden-is-not-unpopular/

    Ross Douthat joins a cast of millions today to ask:

    Why Is Joe Biden So Unpopular?

    The answer is: he's not. How often do I have to post this chart before
    the message gets through? Here are our last four presidents at week 133
    of their first terms:

    [Biden, Obama, Trump, Clinton roughly equal at 133 week in office]

    What do you know that Zogby doesn't know?

    How to put Biden's numbers in historical perspective.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Mon Sep 11 07:10:56 2023
    On 9/10/23 10:40 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:40:15 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    https://jabberwocking.com/for-the-last-time-joe-biden-is-not-unpopular/

    Ross Douthat joins a cast of millions today to ask:

    Why Is Joe Biden So Unpopular?

    The answer is: he's not. How often do I have to post this chart before
    the message gets through? Here are our last four presidents at week 133
    of their first terms:

    [Biden, Obama, Trump, Clinton roughly equal at 133 week in office]

    How often do I have to remind you that Biden is at 39, not at just under 50 as that chart implies.

    So are all the other presidents, approximately.

    And what a poorly designed chart. No guide markers between 0 and 50

    The point is the proximity of the lines, not the exactitude of the representation.

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 11 10:56:11 2023
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:10:59 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/10/23 10:40 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:40:15 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    https://jabberwocking.com/for-the-last-time-joe-biden-is-not-unpopular/ >>
    Ross Douthat joins a cast of millions today to ask:

    Why Is Joe Biden So Unpopular?

    The answer is: he's not. How often do I have to post this chart before
    the message gets through? Here are our last four presidents at week 133 >> of their first terms:

    [Biden, Obama, Trump, Clinton roughly equal at 133 week in office]

    How often do I have to remind you that Biden is at 39, not at just under 50 as that chart implies.
    So are all the other presidents, approximately.

    They are EXACTLY over 40%, not approximately


    And what a poorly designed chart. No guide markers between 0 and 50
    The point is the proximity of the lines, not the exactitude of the representation.

    Which is distortion, and obfuscates reality and is an obstacle to
    rational comparisons

    When you expand the bottom and top edges of the data range, you compress
    the presentation f the data to a narrow middle range.

    Miht as well eliminate both the top and bottom 25th percentiles, as NOBODY
    ever tracks there.
    That way you can see the real differences between the actual data lines.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Mon Sep 11 15:32:55 2023
    On 9/11/23 12:56 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:10:59 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/10/23 10:40 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:40:15 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    https://jabberwocking.com/for-the-last-time-joe-biden-is-not-unpopular/ >>>>
    Ross Douthat joins a cast of millions today to ask:

    Why Is Joe Biden So Unpopular?

    The answer is: he's not. How often do I have to post this chart before >>>> the message gets through? Here are our last four presidents at week 133 >>>> of their first terms:

    [Biden, Obama, Trump, Clinton roughly equal at 133 week in office]

    How often do I have to remind you that Biden is at 39, not at just under 50 as that chart implies.
    So are all the other presidents, approximately.

    They are EXACTLY over 40%, not approximately

    For god's sake, embiggen that chart so you can read it. That's Clinton
    at 50%, the others in a virtual tie with a slight lead for Biden.

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 14 14:57:50 2023
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 4:32:58 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/11/23 12:56 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:10:59 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/10/23 10:40 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:40:15 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    https://jabberwocking.com/for-the-last-time-joe-biden-is-not-unpopular/ >>>>
    Ross Douthat joins a cast of millions today to ask:

    Why Is Joe Biden So Unpopular?

    The answer is: he's not. How often do I have to post this chart before >>>> the message gets through? Here are our last four presidents at week 133 >>>> of their first terms:

    [Biden, Obama, Trump, Clinton roughly equal at 133 week in office]

    How often do I have to remind you that Biden is at 39, not at just under 50 as that chart implies.
    So are all the other presidents, approximately.

    They are EXACTLY over 40%, not approximately
    For god's sake, embiggen that chart so you can read it. That's Clinton
    at 50%, the others in a virtual tie with a slight lead for Biden.

    You FUCKING MORON!!!!
    There are no reference lines between 0 and 50%

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 14 14:56:41 2023
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:05:18 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/10/23 10:49 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:40:15 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    https://jabberwocking.com/for-the-last-time-joe-biden-is-not-unpopular/ >>
    Ross Douthat joins a cast of millions today to ask:

    Why Is Joe Biden So Unpopular?

    The answer is: he's not. How often do I have to post this chart before
    the message gets through? Here are our last four presidents at week 133 >> of their first terms:

    [Biden, Obama, Trump, Clinton roughly equal at 133 week in office]

    What do you know that Zogby doesn't know?
    How to put Biden's numbers in historical perspective.

    No
    what you know is how to lie and obfuscate.
    That was a completely bogus graph.
    It purposefully compressed the data to eliminate differences in polling numbers.
    You are a totally worthless lying pile of shit.
    Market Street in San Fran doesn't have as smuch
    shit as you put out on RAO.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Fri Sep 15 09:38:19 2023
    On 9/14/23 4:56 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:05:18 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/10/23 10:49 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:40:15 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    https://jabberwocking.com/for-the-last-time-joe-biden-is-not-unpopular/ >>>>
    Ross Douthat joins a cast of millions today to ask:

    Why Is Joe Biden So Unpopular?

    The answer is: he's not. How often do I have to post this chart before >>>> the message gets through? Here are our last four presidents at week 133 >>>> of their first terms:

    [Biden, Obama, Trump, Clinton roughly equal at 133 week in office]

    What do you know that Zogby doesn't know?
    How to put Biden's numbers in historical perspective.

    No

    That's what Kevin Drum did.

    what you know is how to lie and obfuscate.

    Accusations of lying will get you another time out.

    That was a completely bogus graph.

    The Kevin Drum? It's based on Gallup.

    It purposefully compressed the data to eliminate differences in polling numbers.

    Which were miniscule. Expanding the data would exaggerate the difference
    by your standards. I wouldn't mind that as it would seem like a bigger
    Biden lead.

    https://news.gallup.com/interactives/507569/presidential-job-approval-center.aspx

    To approximate Drum's graph, select Biden and Trump, then look at day
    945 in office, the latest available. Spoiler: Biden 42%, Trump 40%.
    You'll also find Obama tied with Biden.

    You are a totally worthless lying pile of shit.
    Market Street in San Fran doesn't have as smuch
    shit as you put out on RAO.

    Reduce the invective or I'll return to ignoring you.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Fri Sep 15 09:39:15 2023
    On 9/14/23 4:57 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 4:32:58 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/11/23 12:56 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:10:59 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/10/23 10:40 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:40:15 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>> https://jabberwocking.com/for-the-last-time-joe-biden-is-not-unpopular/ >>>>>>
    Ross Douthat joins a cast of millions today to ask:

    Why Is Joe Biden So Unpopular?

    The answer is: he's not. How often do I have to post this chart before >>>>>> the message gets through? Here are our last four presidents at week 133 >>>>>> of their first terms:

    [Biden, Obama, Trump, Clinton roughly equal at 133 week in office]

    How often do I have to remind you that Biden is at 39, not at just under 50 as that chart implies.
    So are all the other presidents, approximately.

    They are EXACTLY over 40%, not approximately
    For god's sake, embiggen that chart so you can read it. That's Clinton
    at 50%, the others in a virtual tie with a slight lead for Biden.

    You FUCKING MORON!!!!
    There are no reference lines between 0 and 50%

    I will repeat my suggestion you delete anything you type in all-caps.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 15 09:33:24 2023
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 7:39:17 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/14/23 4:57 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 4:32:58 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/11/23 12:56 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:10:59 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/10/23 10:40 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:40:15 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>> https://jabberwocking.com/for-the-last-time-joe-biden-is-not-unpopular/

    Ross Douthat joins a cast of millions today to ask:

    Why Is Joe Biden So Unpopular?

    The answer is: he's not. How often do I have to post this chart before
    the message gets through? Here are our last four presidents at week 133
    of their first terms:

    [Biden, Obama, Trump, Clinton roughly equal at 133 week in office] >>>>>
    How often do I have to remind you that Biden is at 39, not at just under 50 as that chart implies.
    So are all the other presidents, approximately.

    They are EXACTLY over 40%, not approximately
    For god's sake, embiggen that chart so you can read it. That's Clinton
    at 50%, the others in a virtual tie with a slight lead for Biden.

    You FUCKING MORON!!!!
    There are no reference lines between 0 and 50%
    I will repeat my suggestion you delete anything you type in all-caps.

    Bidens underwater ratings are the DIFFERENCE. He's not close to anyone but Trump in that
    category. Both have/had far higher disapproval than all the former presidents you mention.

    Biden earned his with his job performance.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Sep 15 13:03:03 2023
    On 9/15/23 11:33 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 7:39:17 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/14/23 4:57 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 4:32:58 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/11/23 12:56 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:10:59 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>> On 9/10/23 10:40 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:40:15 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> https://jabberwocking.com/for-the-last-time-joe-biden-is-not-unpopular/

    Ross Douthat joins a cast of millions today to ask:

    Why Is Joe Biden So Unpopular?

    The answer is: he's not. How often do I have to post this chart before >>>>>>>> the message gets through? Here are our last four presidents at week 133
    of their first terms:

    [Biden, Obama, Trump, Clinton roughly equal at 133 week in office] >>>>>>>
    How often do I have to remind you that Biden is at 39, not at just under 50 as that chart implies.
    So are all the other presidents, approximately.

    They are EXACTLY over 40%, not approximately
    For god's sake, embiggen that chart so you can read it. That's Clinton >>>> at 50%, the others in a virtual tie with a slight lead for Biden.

    You FUCKING MORON!!!!
    There are no reference lines between 0 and 50%
    I will repeat my suggestion you delete anything you type in all-caps.

    Bidens underwater ratings are the DIFFERENCE. He's not close to anyone but Trump in that
    category. Both have/had far higher disapproval than all the former presidents you mention.

    Biden earned his with his job performance.

    He leads Trump 42% to 40% in approval at the same point in their terms.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 15 15:14:19 2023
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 11:03:05 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/15/23 11:33 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 7:39:17 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/14/23 4:57 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 4:32:58 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/11/23 12:56 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:10:59 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>> On 9/10/23 10:40 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:40:15 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> https://jabberwocking.com/for-the-last-time-joe-biden-is-not-unpopular/

    Ross Douthat joins a cast of millions today to ask:

    Why Is Joe Biden So Unpopular?

    The answer is: he's not. How often do I have to post this chart before
    the message gets through? Here are our last four presidents at week 133
    of their first terms:

    [Biden, Obama, Trump, Clinton roughly equal at 133 week in office] >>>>>>>
    How often do I have to remind you that Biden is at 39, not at just under 50 as that chart implies.
    So are all the other presidents, approximately.

    They are EXACTLY over 40%, not approximately
    For god's sake, embiggen that chart so you can read it. That's Clinton >>>> at 50%, the others in a virtual tie with a slight lead for Biden.

    You FUCKING MORON!!!!
    There are no reference lines between 0 and 50%
    I will repeat my suggestion you delete anything you type in all-caps.

    Bidens underwater ratings are the DIFFERENCE. He's not close to anyone but Trump in that
    category. Both have/had far higher disapproval than all the former presidents you mention.

    Biden earned his with his job performance.
    He leads Trump 42% to 40% in approval at the same point in their terms.

    Biden isn't at 42. And do you even know what underwater and disapproval means?

    ScottW

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 15 16:57:33 2023
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 10:38:24 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:



    Reduce the invective or I'll return to ignoring you.


    Will a FUCK YOU do the trick?

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 15 16:59:18 2023
    Biden isn't at 42. And do you even know what underwater and disapproval means?

    ScottW


    If we waterboard Steve, he will understand both concepts.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Sep 16 09:48:58 2023
    On 9/15/23 5:14 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 11:03:05 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/15/23 11:33 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 7:39:17 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/14/23 4:57 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 4:32:58 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>> On 9/11/23 12:56 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:10:59 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 9/10/23 10:40 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:40:15 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:

    https://jabberwocking.com/for-the-last-time-joe-biden-is-not-unpopular/

    Bidens underwater ratings are the DIFFERENCE. He's not close to anyone but Trump in that
    category. Both have/had far higher disapproval than all the former presidents you mention.

    Biden earned his with his job performance.
    He leads Trump 42% to 40% in approval at the same point in their terms.

    Biden isn't at 42. And do you even know what underwater and disapproval means?

    Follow the link to Gallup in the other post. We're specifically talking
    about the approval level as indicated in the graph linked above.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 16 10:34:19 2023
    On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 7:49:01 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/15/23 5:14 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 11:03:05 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/15/23 11:33 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 7:39:17 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/14/23 4:57 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 4:32:58 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>> On 9/11/23 12:56 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:10:59 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 9/10/23 10:40 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:40:15 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:

    https://jabberwocking.com/for-the-last-time-joe-biden-is-not-unpopular/
    Bidens underwater ratings are the DIFFERENCE. He's not close to anyone but Trump in that
    category. Both have/had far higher disapproval than all the former presidents you mention.

    Biden earned his with his job performance.
    He leads Trump 42% to 40% in approval at the same point in their terms.

    Biden isn't at 42. And do you even know what underwater and disapproval means?
    Follow the link to Gallup in the other post. We're specifically talking about the approval level as indicated in the graph linked above.

    No....you are. The rest of us see a bigger picture...and it ain't pretty old slow crooked Joe.

    ScottW

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 16 11:06:12 2023
    Witless, why are you looking for earthworms two feet down in the dirt?

    ...........and it ain't pretty old slow crooked Joe.

    https://www.gocomics.com/chrisbritt/2023/08/16

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Sep 16 14:13:41 2023
    On 9/16/23 12:34 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 7:49:01 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

    https://jabberwocking.com/for-the-last-time-joe-biden-is-not-unpopular/
    Bidens underwater ratings are the DIFFERENCE. He's not close to anyone but Trump in that
    category. Both have/had far higher disapproval than all the former presidents you mention.

    Biden earned his with his job performance.
    He leads Trump 42% to 40% in approval at the same point in their terms. >>>
    Biden isn't at 42. And do you even know what underwater and disapproval means?
    Follow the link to Gallup in the other post. We're specifically talking
    about the approval level as indicated in the graph linked above.

    No....you are. The rest of us see a bigger picture...and it ain't pretty old slow crooked Joe.

    Non answer. Biden and Trump's approval numbers are nearly the same at
    the same point in their terms no matter if you change the subject.

    Of course, only Trump can keep us out of World War II, or so he says.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 16 20:17:23 2023
    On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 12:13:43 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/16/23 12:34 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 7:49:01 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:

    https://jabberwocking.com/for-the-last-time-joe-biden-is-not-unpopular/
    Bidens underwater ratings are the DIFFERENCE. He's not close to anyone but Trump in that
    category. Both have/had far higher disapproval than all the former presidents you mention.

    Biden earned his with his job performance.
    He leads Trump 42% to 40% in approval at the same point in their terms. >>>
    Biden isn't at 42. And do you even know what underwater and disapproval means?
    Follow the link to Gallup in the other post. We're specifically talking >> about the approval level as indicated in the graph linked above.

    No....you are. The rest of us see a bigger picture...and it ain't pretty old slow crooked Joe.
    Non answer. Biden and Trump's approval numbers are nearly the same at
    the same point in their terms no matter if you change the subject.

    I was talking about this....as my first in thread post sets the subject.

    After flipping through Biden’s 39% approval rating and the feeling by a large majority that they are worse off under Biden, Zogby turned to those who don’t want Biden to run again, at an eye-popping 73%, he said.

    “That includes up to 65% of Democrats, which is devastating,” Zogby said.

    Devastating.

    ScottW

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Sat Sep 16 22:07:48 2023
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 7:57:34 PM UTC-4, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 10:38:24 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:



    Reduce the invective or I'll return to ignoring you.
    Will a FUCK YOU do the trick?

    evidently it worked!

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 16 22:09:22 2023
    On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 3:13:43 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:



    Of course, only Trump can keep us out of World War II, or so he says.

    Those ships have sailed a long time ago.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Sun Sep 17 09:17:40 2023
    On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 10:09:23 PM UTC-7, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 3:13:43 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:



    Of course, only Trump can keep us out of World War II, or so he says.
    Those ships have sailed a long time ago.

    Stephen will be harping on "sailed or sank" now and the thread will branch like a tree....again.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sun Sep 17 12:38:57 2023
    On 9/16/23 10:17 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 12:13:43 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/16/23 12:34 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 7:49:01 AM UTC-7, mINE109
    wrote:

    Biden and Trump's approval numbers are nearly the same
    at the same point in their terms no matter if you change the
    subject.

    I was talking about this....as my first in thread post sets the
    subject.

    And having approval marks equivalent to Trump's aren't catastrophic.

    After flipping through Biden’s 39% approval rating and the feeling by
    a large majority that they are worse off under Biden, Zogby turned to
    those who don’t want Biden to run again, at an eye-popping 73%, he
    said.

    “That includes up to 65% of Democrats, which is devastating,” Zogby
    said.

    Devastating.

    He didn't poll head-to-head. Sure, almost half approve of Nikki Haley
    but they're not necessarily going to vote for her.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 17 10:53:25 2023
    On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:39:00 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/16/23 10:17 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 12:13:43 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/16/23 12:34 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 7:49:01 AM UTC-7, mINE109
    wrote:

    Biden and Trump's approval numbers are nearly the same
    at the same point in their terms no matter if you change the
    subject.

    I was talking about this....as my first in thread post sets the
    subject.
    And having approval marks equivalent to Trump's aren't catastrophic.
    After flipping through Biden’s 39% approval rating and the feeling by
    a large majority that they are worse off under Biden, Zogby turned to those who don’t want Biden to run again, at an eye-popping 73%, he
    said.

    “That includes up to 65% of Democrats, which is devastating,” Zogby said.

    Devastating.
    He didn't poll head-to-head. Sure, almost half approve of Nikki Haley
    but they're not necessarily going to vote for her.

    Not voting for Joe is good enough.
    Can't expect dem voters to go cold turkey in one election.
    They get twitchy.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sun Sep 17 13:51:37 2023
    On 9/17/23 11:17 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 10:09:23 PM UTC-7, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 3:13:43 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:



    Of course, only Trump can keep us out of World War II, or so he says.
    Those ships have sailed a long time ago.

    Stephen will be harping on "sailed or sank" now and the thread will branch like a tree....again.

    No, doesn't sound like anything I'd say. "That ship has sailed" is an
    idiom, while "that ship has sank" isn't.

    Speaking of Joe's alleged cognitive decline:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/transcripts/full-transcript-read-meet-the-press-kristen-welker-interview-trump-rcna104778

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 17 18:40:05 2023
    On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 11:51:42 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/17/23 11:17 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 10:09:23 PM UTC-7, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 3:13:43 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:



    Of course, only Trump can keep us out of World War II, or so he says.
    Those ships have sailed a long time ago.

    Stephen will be harping on "sailed or sank" now and the thread will branch like a tree....again.
    No, doesn't sound like anything I'd say. "That ship has sailed" is an
    idiom, while "that ship has sank" isn't.

    Speaking of Joe's alleged cognitive decline:

    That's how you speak about Joe....via Trump? LoL.

    ScottW

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