So you've seen I've been reading some DailyKos stories on Ukraine.
Most are from staff but a few are from the "community". They often
mix politics with war updates and the comments are sometimes
interesting.
So I created an account to comment as well. Less than 24 hours they
have apparently blocked my ability to comment. Can't even reply to
replies of my earlier comments. No notice. No explanation. I was
not being rude or vulgar although from the comments of others, they
don't seem to have much of a problem with that. Anyway....when logged
in the reply buttons etc. are gone. Log out and they reappear
although won't function unless you log on.
Here's the story I was commenting under. See for yourself.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/9/10/2192537/-My-friend-s-dinner-comments-about-MAGA-inevitability-had-me-questioning-these-accepted-myths
On 9/11/23 9:15 PM, ScottW wrote:
So you've seen I've been reading some DailyKos stories on Ukraine.
Most are from staff but a few are from the "community". They often
mix politics with war updates and the comments are sometimes
interesting.
So I created an account to comment as well. Less than 24 hours theyI'd guess there's a new account waiting period.
have apparently blocked my ability to comment. Can't even reply to
replies of my earlier comments. No notice. No explanation. I was
not being rude or vulgar although from the comments of others, they
don't seem to have much of a problem with that. Anyway....when logged
in the reply buttons etc. are gone. Log out and they reappear
although won't function unless you log on.
Or you're in moderator
purgatory.
Here's the story I was commenting under. See for yourself.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/9/10/2192537/-My-friend-s-dinner-comments-about-MAGA-inevitability-had-me-questioning-these-accepted-mythsAh, your game doesn't play there. I see you were flagged for a false statement.
If you're used to Usenet standards for accuracy, that is,
none, this could be a surprise.
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 6:07:19 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 9/11/23 9:15 PM, ScottW wrote:
So you've seen I've been reading some DailyKos stories onI'd guess there's a new account waiting period.
Ukraine. Most are from staff but a few are from the "community".
They often mix politics with war updates and the comments are
sometimes interesting.
So I created an account to comment as well. Less than 24 hours
they have apparently blocked my ability to comment. Can't even
reply to replies of my earlier comments. No notice. No
explanation. I was not being rude or vulgar although from the
comments of others, they don't seem to have much of a problem
with that. Anyway....when logged in the reply buttons etc. are
gone. Log out and they reappear although won't function unless
you log on.
Nope, I was able to post multiple comments. Even reply to replies.
Then, the next day....the reply buttons are gone.
Or you're in moderator purgatory.
Here's the story I was commenting under. See for yourself.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/9/10/2192537/-My-friend-s-dinner-comments-about-MAGA-inevitability-had-me-questioning-these-accepted-myths
Ah, your game doesn't play there. I see you were flagged for a false
statement.
Well help me out. What is the false statement flag? I have a
reply that claims I misstated on N. Korea....but I said missile and
he said I said nuclear. I was blocked before I could point out that
I didn't say what he said I said.
I see flags set on two replies and nothing is false in any of them.
I see Rules of the Road are
This is a site for progressives. That’s the fundamental premise
underlying all expectations about posting, commenting, and
interacting at Daily Kos. As progressives, we believe that the best
way to build our coalition is through the Democratic Party—and we
are fighting to make it a stronger, more effective, more just, more forward-thinking Democratic Party. We are here to connect, unite,
and work together toward this common purpose, to elect more and
better Democrats, to advocate for a more equitable country, and even
to socialize among like-minded friends. Given our clear goals, these
are our only ideological prohibitions:
Advocacy for third parties or third-party candidates Advocacy for
voting against Democrats or not voting at all Misleading, deceptive,
or malicious attacks against Democratic officials or candidates
If you're used to Usenet standards for accuracy, that is, none,
this could be a surprise.
Read their comments. Accuracy is not a requirement. 100% devotion
to the democrat party is.
It's clear they have created a bubble and will expel anyone who
doesn't want to live in a bubble.
On 9/12/23 10:31 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 6:07:19 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 9/11/23 9:15 PM, ScottW wrote:
So you've seen I've been reading some DailyKos stories onI'd guess there's a new account waiting period.
Ukraine. Most are from staff but a few are from the "community".
They often mix politics with war updates and the comments are
sometimes interesting.
So I created an account to comment as well. Less than 24 hours
they have apparently blocked my ability to comment. Can't even
reply to replies of my earlier comments. No notice. No
explanation. I was not being rude or vulgar although from the
comments of others, they don't seem to have much of a problem
with that. Anyway....when logged in the reply buttons etc. are
gone. Log out and they reappear although won't function unless
you log on.
Nope, I was able to post multiple comments. Even reply to replies.I see now you were able to post.
Then, the next day....the reply buttons are gone.
Or you're in moderator purgatory.
Here's the story I was commenting under. See for yourself.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/9/10/2192537/-My-friend-s-dinner-comments-about-MAGA-inevitability-had-me-questioning-these-accepted-myths
Ah, your game doesn't play there. I see you were flagged for a false
statement.
Well help me out. What is the false statement flag? I have aMissile testing is not their nuclear program?
reply that claims I misstated on N. Korea....but I said missile and
he said I said nuclear. I was blocked before I could point out that
I didn't say what he said I said.
slice, but arguable.
There was another comment about inflation. You could have specified
which measure of inflation you meant if given a chance.
I see flags set on two replies and nothing is false in any of them.Well, I'd guess you got moderator scrutiny, who saw you made more
comments assuming facts not in evidence, such as NATO member funding requirements, which were called out immediately.
I'm not up on DailyKos, so I don't know if "flags" are visible or not.
I see Rules of the Road are
This is a site for progressives. That’s the fundamental premise underlying all expectations about posting, commenting, and
interacting at Daily Kos. As progressives, we believe that the best
way to build our coalition is through the Democratic Party—and we
are fighting to make it a stronger, more effective, more just, more forward-thinking Democratic Party. We are here to connect, unite,
and work together toward this common purpose, to elect more and
better Democrats, to advocate for a more equitable country, and even
to socialize among like-minded friends. Given our clear goals, these
are our only ideological prohibitions:
Advocacy for third parties or third-party candidates Advocacy for
voting against Democrats or not voting at all Misleading, deceptive,
or malicious attacks against Democratic officials or candidates
If you're used to Usenet standards for accuracy, that is, none,
this could be a surprise.
Read their comments. Accuracy is not a requirement. 100% devotionYou snipped "Strive to be accurate" so I know you saw it.
to the democrat party is.
No, the rule is right there for you to see: "Advocacy for
voting against Democrats" is forbidden.
between those two things, forbidding anti-Democratic advocacy and
requiring "100% devotion," it's not the site for you.
It's clear they have created a bubble and will expel anyone whoHow do you explain the other posters who criticize Democrats and their policies without getting banned?
doesn't want to live in a bubble.
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 10:50:44 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 9/12/23 10:31 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 6:07:19 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 9/11/23 9:15 PM, ScottW wrote:
So I created an account to comment as well. Less than 24 hours
they have apparently blocked my ability to comment. Can't even
reply to replies of my earlier comments. No notice. No
explanation. I was not being rude or vulgar although from the
comments of others, they don't seem to have much of a problem
with that...
Here's the story I was commenting under. See for yourself.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/9/10/2192537/-My-friend-s-dinner-comments-about-MAGA-inevitability-had-me-questioning-these-accepted-myths
Ah, your game doesn't play there. I see you were flagged for a false
statement.
Well help me out. What is the false statement flag? I have a
reply that claims I misstated on N. Korea....but I said missile and
he said I said nuclear. I was blocked before I could point out that
I didn't say what he said I said.
Missile testing is not their nuclear program?
No, it's not.
That's rather a thin slice, but arguable.
Pretty standard. For example, no restrictions on missile development in Iran nuclear deal.
There was another comment about inflation. You could have specified
which measure of inflation you meant if given a chance.
I see flags set on two replies and nothing is false in any of them.Well, I'd guess you got moderator scrutiny, who saw you made more
comments assuming facts not in evidence, such as NATO member funding
requirements, which were called out immediately.
And the callout is easily verifiable as flat out incorrect.
Nato has long had a 2% GPD defense spending requirement. > Sadly, few Nato members met it. Now they just changed it to 2% minimum
which also, sadly, won't be met by all countries.
I guess you can argue a requirement without consequences for noncompliance is not
really a requirement. Many call it a "target". Nato called it a "guideline".
Is there a real difference between a 2% guideline with no enforcement and a 2% minimum
guideline with no enforcement?
I'm not up on DailyKos, so I don't know if "flags" are visible or not.
It's one of 3 or 4 icons at the top of every comment.
I see Rules of the Road areYou snipped "Strive to be accurate" so I know you saw it.
This is a site for progressives. That’s the fundamental premise
underlying all expectations about posting, commenting, and
interacting at Daily Kos. As progressives, we believe that the best
way to build our coalition is through the Democratic Party—and we
are fighting to make it a stronger, more effective, more just, more
forward-thinking Democratic Party. We are here to connect, unite,
and work together toward this common purpose, to elect more and
better Democrats, to advocate for a more equitable country, and even
to socialize among like-minded friends. Given our clear goals, these
are our only ideological prohibitions:
Advocacy for third parties or third-party candidates Advocacy for
voting against Democrats or not voting at all Misleading, deceptive,
or malicious attacks against Democratic officials or candidates
If you're used to Usenet standards for accuracy, that is, none,
this could be a surprise.
Read their comments. Accuracy is not a requirement. 100% devotion
to the democrat party is.
And I read a whole bunch of grossly inaccurate comments.
No, the rule is right there for you to see: "Advocacy for
voting against Democrats" is forbidden.
I saw it. I didn't advocate so much. I just said I voted for Trump and here's why. It was in response to a comment that were all fascist racists filled with hate.
If you can't tell the difference between those two things, forbidding anti-Democratic advocacy and
requiring "100% devotion," it's not the site for you.
It's clear they have created a bubble and will expel anyone whoHow do you explain the other posters who criticize Democrats and their
doesn't want to live in a bubble.
policies without getting banned?
You're allowed to criticize democrats, especially for not being liberal or progressive enough.
But you still have to vote for them. It's kinda creepy.
On 9/12/23 9:11 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 10:50:44 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 9/12/23 10:31 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 6:07:19 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>> On 9/11/23 9:15 PM, ScottW wrote:
So I created an account to comment as well. Less than 24 hours
they have apparently blocked my ability to comment. Can't even
reply to replies of my earlier comments. No notice. No
explanation. I was not being rude or vulgar although from the
comments of others, they don't seem to have much of a problem
with that...
Here's the story I was commenting under. See for yourself.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/9/10/2192537/-My-friend-s-dinner-comments-about-MAGA-inevitability-had-me-questioning-these-accepted-myths
Ah, your game doesn't play there. I see you were flagged for a false >>>> statement.
Well help me out. What is the false statement flag? I have a
reply that claims I misstated on N. Korea....but I said missile and
he said I said nuclear. I was blocked before I could point out that
I didn't say what he said I said.
Missile testing is not their nuclear program?
No, it's not.
That's rather a thin slice, but arguable.
Pretty standard. For example, no restrictions on missile development in IranDefinitely arguable whether it was a win for Trump:
nuclear deal.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/north-korea-launched-no-missiles-2018-isn-t-necessarily-due-n949971
However, many experts point out that although the eye-catching weapons displays may have ceased, other more subtle parts of North Korea's
weapons program continue apace. Tests are only part of the story.
"Kim has not changed his policy ... but claims that he's now moved from research-and-development and onto mass production," said Cristina
Varriale, a research fellow at the Royal United Services Institute, a London-based think tank."
...This transition from testing to production should come as no surprise
— it's exactly what Kim told the world he would do at the beginning of
the year.
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 7:02:07 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 9/12/23 9:11 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 10:50:44 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 9/12/23 10:31 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 6:07:19 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>> On 9/11/23 9:15 PM, ScottW wrote:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/9/10/2192537/-My-friend-s-dinner-comments-about-MAGA-inevitability-had-me-questioning-these-accepted-myths
Definitely arguable whether it was a win for Trump:Well help me out. What is the false statement flag? I have a
reply that claims I misstated on N. Korea....but I said missile and
he said I said nuclear. I was blocked before I could point out that
I didn't say what he said I said.
Missile testing is not their nuclear program?
No, it's not.
That's rather a thin slice, but arguable.
Pretty standard. For example, no restrictions on missile development in Iran
nuclear deal.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/north-korea-launched-no-missiles-2018-isn-t-necessarily-due-n949971
However, many experts point out that although the eye-catching weapons
displays may have ceased, other more subtle parts of North Korea's
weapons program continue apace. Tests are only part of the story.
"Kim has not changed his policy ... but claims that he's now moved from
research-and-development and onto mass production," said Cristina
Varriale, a research fellow at the Royal United Services Institute, a
London-based think tank."
Obvious BS as one can't mass produce what doesn't work.
Until the last test N. Korea had not demonstrated any real success in multi-stage ballistic missiles
capable of striking all of the US.
...This transition from testing to production should come as no surprise
— it's exactly what Kim told the world he would do at the beginning of
the year.
Producing missiles that can't strike the US is not of the same level of concern.
On 9/13/23 9:57 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 7:02:07 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
On 9/12/23 9:11 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 10:50:44 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>> On 9/12/23 10:31 AM, ScottW wrote:Definitely arguable whether it was a win for Trump:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 6:07:19 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>> On 9/11/23 9:15 PM, ScottW wrote:
Well help me out. What is the false statement flag? I have ahttps://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/9/10/2192537/-My-friend-s-dinner-comments-about-MAGA-inevitability-had-me-questioning-these-accepted-myths
reply that claims I misstated on N. Korea....but I said missile and >>>>> he said I said nuclear. I was blocked before I could point out that >>>>> I didn't say what he said I said.
Missile testing is not their nuclear program?
No, it's not.
That's rather a thin slice, but arguable.
Pretty standard. For example, no restrictions on missile development in Iran
nuclear deal.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/north-korea-launched-no-missiles-2018-isn-t-necessarily-due-n949971
However, many experts point out that although the eye-catching weapons
displays may have ceased, other more subtle parts of North Korea's
weapons program continue apace. Tests are only part of the story.
"Kim has not changed his policy ... but claims that he's now moved from >> research-and-development and onto mass production," said Cristina
Varriale, a research fellow at the Royal United Services Institute, a
London-based think tank."
Obvious BS as one can't mass produce what doesn't work.Once it works, you don't have to test anymore.
Until the last test N. Korea had not demonstrated any real success in multi-stage ballistic missilesTo paraphrase the old joke, oh, that last test.
capable of striking all of the US.
...This transition from testing to production should come as no surprise >> — it's exactly what Kim told the world he would do at the beginning of >> the year.
Producing missiles that can't strike the US is not of the same level of concern.Well, then, never mind. Do South Korea and Japan share this lack of concern?
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:27:38 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
Definitely arguable whether it was a win for Trump:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/north-korea-launched-no-missiles-2018-isn-t-necessarily-due-n949971
Once it works, you don't have to test anymore."Kim has not changed his policy ... but claims that he's now
moved from research-and-development and onto mass production,"
said Cristina Varriale, a research fellow at the Royal United
Services Institute, a London-based think tank."
Obvious BS as one can't mass produce what doesn't work.
Oh the wonderful mind of a simpleton.
Until the last test N. Korea had not demonstrated any realTo paraphrase the old joke, oh, that last test.
success in multi-stage ballistic missiles capable of striking all
of the US.
They started testing again when Biden took office. Up to this last
one, they failed. I don't know WTF you're joking about beyond some
lameass deflection attempt.
Well, then, never mind. Do South Korea and Japan share this lack of...This transition from testing to production should come as no
surprise — it's exactly what Kim told the world he would do at
the beginning of the year.
Producing missiles that can't strike the US is not of the same
level of concern.
concern?
Of course not. And concern is not lacking, it just not the same
level. And you obviously don't have their concern or you'd be
freaking out over mass production of short range ballistic missiles.
On 9/13/23 10:35 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:27:38 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
Once it works, you don't have to test anymore.Definitely arguable whether it was a win for Trump:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/north-korea-launched-no-missiles-2018-isn-t-necessarily-due-n949971
"Kim has not changed his policy ... but claims that he's now
moved from research-and-development and onto mass production,"
said Cristina Varriale, a research fellow at the Royal United
Services Institute, a London-based think tank."
Obvious BS as one can't mass produce what doesn't work.
Oh the wonderful mind of a simpleton.Equivalent to your statement.
Until the last test N. Korea had not demonstrated any realTo paraphrase the old joke, oh, that last test.
success in multi-stage ballistic missiles capable of striking all
of the US.
They started testing again when Biden took office. Up to this lastThey didn't demonstrate success until they did.
one, they failed. I don't know WTF you're joking about beyond some
lameass deflection attempt.
My banishment from Kos is apparently permanent with no response to my inquiry to the
"help desk" on why. They circle the wagons and no independent thought is allowed in the circle.
My banishment from Kos is apparently permanent with no response to my
inquiry to the "help desk" on why. They circle the wagons and no
independent thought is allowed in the circle.
On 9/14/23 9:32 PM, ScottW wrote:
My banishment from Kos is apparently permanent with no response to my inquiry to the "help desk" on why. They circle the wagons and no independent thought is allowed in the circle.Really? I see all sorts of disagreements and independent thought there. Maybe your assumptions aren't shared by a self-proclaimed progressive site.
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 9:02:23 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:c
On 9/13/23 10:35 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:27:38 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
My banishment from Kos is apparently permanent with no response to my inquiry to the
"help desk" on why. They circle the wagons and no independent thought is allowed in the circle.
ScottW
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