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    From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 15 09:49:14 2023
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-admin-sprints-to-scotus-warns-of-grave-harms-days-after-fifth-circuit-ruled-cdc-and-fbi-officials-likely-coerced-social-media-platforms-to-censor-speech/ar-AA1gJl7W?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=
    53c0da5260e447b9ba2b1ede4c9a8643&ei=32

    Bigger than Roe v. Wade IMO.

    The administration claims the bully pulpit allows targeted and nonpublic persuasion (instead of coercion) of the powers running social media.

    I call that argument BS.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Sep 15 13:05:54 2023
    On 9/15/23 11:49 AM, ScottW wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-admin-sprints-to-scotus-warns-of-grave-harms-days-after-fifth-circuit-ruled-cdc-and-fbi-officials-likely-coerced-social-media-platforms-to-censor-speech/ar-AA1gJl7W?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=
    53c0da5260e447b9ba2b1ede4c9a8643&ei=32

    Bigger than Roe v. Wade IMO.

    The administration claims the bully pulpit allows targeted and
    nonpublic persuasion (instead of coercion) of the powers running
    social media.

    I call that argument BS.

    It's nonsense to say the federal government can't communicate with
    social media providers.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 15 15:12:50 2023
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 11:05:57 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/15/23 11:49 AM, ScottW wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-admin-sprints-to-scotus-warns-of-grave-harms-days-after-fifth-circuit-ruled-cdc-and-fbi-officials-likely-coerced-social-media-platforms-to-censor-speech/ar-AA1gJl7W?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=
    53c0da5260e447b9ba2b1ede4c9a8643&ei=32

    Bigger than Roe v. Wade IMO.

    The administration claims the bully pulpit allows targeted and
    nonpublic persuasion (instead of coercion) of the powers running
    social media.

    I call that argument BS.
    It's nonsense to say the federal government can't communicate with
    social media providers.

    BS...Short of an investigation of illegality there is no reason for them to be.

    ScottW

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Sep 16 10:20:26 2023
    On 9/15/23 5:12 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 11:05:57 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/15/23 11:49 AM, ScottW wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-admin-sprints-to-scotus-warns-of-grave-harms-days-after-fifth-circuit-ruled-cdc-and-fbi-officials-likely-coerced-social-media-platforms-to-censor-speech/ar-AA1gJl7W?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=
    53c0da5260e447b9ba2b1ede4c9a8643&ei=32

    Bigger than Roe v. Wade IMO.

    The administration claims the bully pulpit allows targeted and
    nonpublic persuasion (instead of coercion) of the powers running
    social media.

    I call that argument BS.
    It's nonsense to say the federal government can't communicate with
    social media providers.

    BS...Short of an investigation of illegality there is no reason for them to be.

    Federal agencies give advisories all the time. If the shoe were on the
    other foot, you'd complain they didn't communicate.

    I can live with the restriction that the government can't make threats.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 16 09:55:56 2023
    On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 8:20:28 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/15/23 5:12 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 11:05:57 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/15/23 11:49 AM, ScottW wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-admin-sprints-to-scotus-warns-of-grave-harms-days-after-fifth-circuit-ruled-cdc-and-fbi-officials-likely-coerced-social-media-platforms-to-censor-speech/ar-AA1gJl7W?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=
    53c0da5260e447b9ba2b1ede4c9a8643&ei=32

    Bigger than Roe v. Wade IMO.

    The administration claims the bully pulpit allows targeted and
    nonpublic persuasion (instead of coercion) of the powers running
    social media.

    I call that argument BS.
    It's nonsense to say the federal government can't communicate with
    social media providers.

    BS...Short of an investigation of illegality there is no reason for them to be.
    Federal agencies give advisories all the time. If the shoe were on the
    other foot, you'd complain they didn't communicate.

    I can live with the restriction that the government can't make threats.

    How would you know when it's "nonpublic"? As I said.....for that they should
    need a criminal investigation to justify.
    Trashing vaccines is not a crime. Making up Hunter memes is not a crime.

    ScottW

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Sep 16 14:16:20 2023
    On 9/16/23 11:55 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 8:20:28 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/15/23 5:12 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 11:05:57 AM UTC-7, mINE109
    wrote:
    On 9/15/23 11:49 AM, ScottW wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-admin-sprints-to-scotus-warns-of-grave-harms-days-after-fifth-circuit-ruled-cdc-and-fbi-officials-likely-coerced-social-media-platforms-to-censor-speech/ar-AA1gJl7W?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=
    53c0da5260e447b9ba2b1ede4c9a8643&ei=32

    The administration claims the bully pulpit allows targeted
    and nonpublic persuasion (instead of coercion) of the powers
    running social media.

    I call that argument BS.
    It's nonsense to say the federal government can't communicate
    with social media providers.

    BS...Short of an investigation of illegality there is no reason
    for them to be.
    Federal agencies give advisories all the time. If the shoe were on
    the other foot, you'd complain they didn't communicate.

    I can live with the restriction that the government can't make
    threats.

    How would you know when it's "nonpublic"? As I said.....for that
    they should need a criminal investigation to justify. Trashing
    vaccines is not a crime. Making up Hunter memes is not a crime.

    No, but trashing vaccines is against public health.

    Since the complaint about "Hunter memes" was from the Biden campaign and
    was a request Twitter honor its own rules of service, your example is
    not convincing.

    Your standard of illegality is absurd.

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 16 13:48:38 2023
    mINE109 wrote:

    Since the complaint about "Hunter memes" was from the Biden campaign and
    was a request Twitter honor its own rules of service, your example is
    not convincing.

    Your standard of illegality is absurd.

    Witless has become increasingly addled of late. A couple days ago, the mutt didn't even grasp that the Constitution only applies to the government.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Fascist Flea on Sat Sep 16 16:50:00 2023
    On 9/16/23 3:48 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:

    Witless has become increasingly addled of late. A couple days ago, the mutt didn't even grasp that the Constitution only applies to the government.

    And that one's simple, not as obscure like “protected disclosure.”

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 16 19:59:54 2023
    On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 12:16:23 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/16/23 11:55 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 8:20:28 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/15/23 5:12 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 11:05:57 AM UTC-7, mINE109
    wrote:
    On 9/15/23 11:49 AM, ScottW wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-admin-sprints-to-scotus-warns-of-grave-harms-days-after-fifth-circuit-ruled-cdc-and-fbi-officials-likely-coerced-social-media-platforms-to-censor-speech/ar-AA1gJl7W?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=
    53c0da5260e447b9ba2b1ede4c9a8643&ei=32
    The administration claims the bully pulpit allows targeted
    and nonpublic persuasion (instead of coercion) of the powers
    running social media.

    I call that argument BS.
    It's nonsense to say the federal government can't communicate
    with social media providers.

    BS...Short of an investigation of illegality there is no reason
    for them to be.
    Federal agencies give advisories all the time. If the shoe were on
    the other foot, you'd complain they didn't communicate.

    I can live with the restriction that the government can't make
    threats.

    How would you know when it's "nonpublic"? As I said.....for that
    they should need a criminal investigation to justify. Trashing
    vaccines is not a crime. Making up Hunter memes is not a crime.
    No, but trashing vaccines is against public health.

    So is you breathing. What would you have us do?

    Since the complaint about "Hunter memes" was from the Biden campaign and
    was a request Twitter honor its own rules of service, your example is
    not convincing.

    Well....it would be if twitter had told 'em to Fuck off instead instead of licking their black boot.

    Your standard of illegality is absurd.

    No it isn't. It's within the law.

    ScottW

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