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  • DoJ had investigators on eggshells

    From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 15 10:10:33 2023
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/irs-whistleblowers-boss-pushed-removed-hunter-biden-investigation-transcript

    This tangled web needs to be unwoven and examined thread by thread.

    "DOJ would communicate what their preference is"

    Who, what when where and why? and who told them to do it.

    ScottW

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Sep 15 13:06:28 2023
    On 9/15/23 12:10 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/irs-whistleblowers-boss-pushed-removed-hunter-biden-investigation-transcript

    This tangled web needs to be unwoven and examined thread by thread.

    "DOJ would communicate what their preference is"

    Who, what when where and why? and who told them to do it.

    They weren't whistleblowers.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 15 15:10:24 2023
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 11:06:30 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/15/23 12:10 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/irs-whistleblowers-boss-pushed-removed-hunter-biden-investigation-transcript

    This tangled web needs to be unwoven and examined thread by thread.

    "DOJ would communicate what their preference is"

    Who, what when where and why? and who told them to do it.
    They weren't whistleblowers.

    Not then, but there is a couple now. And slowly we're finding "DoJ" (which must mean senior staff) was more involved than they have been willing to admit.

    ScottW

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Sep 16 10:20:13 2023
    On 9/15/23 5:10 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 11:06:30 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/15/23 12:10 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/irs-whistleblowers-boss-pushed-removed-hunter-biden-investigation-transcript

    Who, what when where and why? and who told them to do it.
    They weren't whistleblowers.

    Not then, but there is a couple now. And slowly we're finding
    "DoJ" (which must mean senior staff) was more involved than they have
    been willing to admit.

    No, whistleblowing is a specific process. There's paperwork. And, no, revelations senior staff did their jobs are not surprises.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 16 10:02:14 2023
    On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 8:20:17 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/15/23 5:10 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 11:06:30 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/15/23 12:10 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/irs-whistleblowers-boss-pushed-removed-hunter-biden-investigation-transcript
    Who, what when where and why? and who told them to do it.
    They weren't whistleblowers.

    Not then, but there is a couple now. And slowly we're finding
    "DoJ" (which must mean senior staff) was more involved than they have
    been willing to admit.
    No, whistleblowing is a specific process. There's paperwork.

    https://tinyurl.com/msaa269d
    (a google search for Hunter Biden whistleblowers)

    The whole world accepts whistleblowers....but you.

    And, no,
    revelations senior staff did their jobs are not surprises.

    Their job is to forward admin and WH preferences on how a case is to be handled?
    Is that how the sweetheart plea agreement came to be?

    ScottW

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sat Sep 16 14:15:52 2023
    On 9/16/23 12:02 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 8:20:17 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/15/23 5:10 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 11:06:30 AM UTC-7, mINE109
    wrote:
    On 9/15/23 12:10 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/irs-whistleblowers-boss-pushed-removed-hunter-biden-investigation-transcript


    Who, what when where and why? and who told them to do it.
    They weren't whistleblowers.

    Not then, but there is a couple now. And slowly we're finding
    "DoJ" (which must mean senior staff) was more involved than they
    have been willing to admit.
    No, whistleblowing is a specific process. There's paperwork.

    https://tinyurl.com/msaa269d (a google search for Hunter Biden whistleblowers)

    The whole world accepts whistleblowers....but you.

    The world is following headlines and news reports, not the official
    definition.

    Shapley and Ziegler are leakers, not whistleblowers.

    And, no, revelations senior staff did their jobs are not
    surprises.

    Their job is to forward admin and WH preferences on how a case is to
    be handled? Is that how the sweetheart plea agreement came to be?

    Assumes facts not in evidence.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 16 20:05:47 2023
    On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 12:15:55 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/16/23 12:02 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 8:20:17 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/15/23 5:10 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 11:06:30 AM UTC-7, mINE109
    wrote:
    On 9/15/23 12:10 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/irs-whistleblowers-boss-pushed-removed-hunter-biden-investigation-transcript


    Who, what when where and why? and who told them to do it.
    They weren't whistleblowers.

    Not then, but there is a couple now. And slowly we're finding
    "DoJ" (which must mean senior staff) was more involved than they
    have been willing to admit.
    No, whistleblowing is a specific process. There's paperwork.

    https://tinyurl.com/msaa269d (a google search for Hunter Biden whistleblowers)

    The whole world accepts whistleblowers....but you.
    The world is following headlines and news reports, not the official definition.

    Shapley and Ziegler are leakers, not whistleblowers.

    Like I said....you're truly alone trying to make that silly argument.

    And, no, revelations senior staff did their jobs are not
    surprises.

    Their job is to forward admin and WH preferences on how a case is to
    be handled? Is that how the sweetheart plea agreement came to be?
    Assumes facts not in evidence.

    Yet apparent to any reasoning human.

    ScottW

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sun Sep 17 12:23:56 2023
    On 9/16/23 10:05 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 12:15:55 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/16/23 12:02 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 8:20:17 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/15/23 5:10 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 11:06:30 AM UTC-7, mINE109
    wrote:
    On 9/15/23 12:10 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/irs-whistleblowers-boss-pushed-removed-hunter-biden-investigation-transcript


    Who, what when where and why? and who told them to do it.
    They weren't whistleblowers.

    Not then, but there is a couple now. And slowly we're finding
    "DoJ" (which must mean senior staff) was more involved than they
    have been willing to admit.
    No, whistleblowing is a specific process. There's paperwork.

    https://tinyurl.com/msaa269d (a google search for Hunter Biden
    whistleblowers)

    The whole world accepts whistleblowers....but you.
    The world is following headlines and news reports, not the official
    definition.

    Shapley and Ziegler are leakers, not whistleblowers.

    Like I said....you're truly alone trying to make that silly argument.

    I'm distinguishing between the informal definition and the legal one,
    which requires a “protected disclosure” be made to a proper authority.

    I acknowledge Shaply and Ziegler are informally referred to as
    whistleblowers.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 17 10:49:01 2023
    mINE109 wrote:

    Shapley and Ziegler are leakers, not whistleblowers.

    Like I said....you're truly alone trying to make that silly argument.
    I'm distinguishing between the informal definition and the legal one,
    which requires a “protected disclosure” be made to a proper authority.

    I acknowledge Shaply and Ziegler are informally referred to as whistleblowers.

    At this juncture, a reasoned response would acknowledge that the term
    has, as you point out, different meanings in different contexts. But Scottie doesn't earn his "debating trade" points by being reasonable. Maybe they'll suggest the Fifth Amendment should shield anyone the LRWEC calls a "whistleblower". Or maybe they'll demand that Congress pass a law to
    ban the use of the term in any technical or legal context. Or maybe, if the mutt is feeling desperate or cornered, they'll claim sole ownership of the
    word for use against the hated Democrats. If someone tries to blow a whistle on
    a fuckuplican, Witless will exhort the hated FBI to harass and prosecute the rat.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Fascist Flea on Sun Sep 17 13:04:19 2023
    On 9/17/23 12:49 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
    mINE109 wrote:

    Shapley and Ziegler are leakers, not whistleblowers.

    Like I said....you're truly alone trying to make that silly argument.
    I'm distinguishing between the informal definition and the legal one,
    which requires a “protected disclosure” be made to a proper authority. >>
    I acknowledge Shaply and Ziegler are informally referred to as
    whistleblowers.

    At this juncture, a reasoned response would acknowledge that the term
    has, as you point out, different meanings in different contexts. But Scottie doesn't earn his "debating trade" points by being reasonable. Maybe they'll suggest the Fifth Amendment should shield anyone the LRWEC calls a "whistleblower". Or maybe they'll demand that Congress pass a law to
    ban the use of the term in any technical or legal context. Or maybe, if the mutt is feeling desperate or cornered, they'll claim sole ownership of the word for use against the hated Democrats. If someone tries to blow a whistle on
    a fuckuplican, Witless will exhort the hated FBI to harass and prosecute the rat.

    They ever find that SCOTUS leaker? Time to edit a judge's robe onto the
    hot dog costume meme guy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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