On 1/28/24 11:42 AM, ScottW wrote:

EVERYTHING is a political calculation... these days.

For more reading, from 2020:

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/al-tanf-garrison-americas-strategic-baggage-in-the-middle-east/

"Finally, there are escalatory risks that exist with the extended U.S.
military presence at Al Tanf. Russia has already acted provocatively
against coalition forces at Al Tanf in at least two instances, in June
2016 and September 2018. The Syrian regime and Iranian-backed proxies successfully cleared terrain just outside the 55-kilometer deconfliction
zone isolating forces at Al Tanf. In acts of self-defense, coalition
forces struck Iranian-directed forces on at least three occasions and
downed an Iranian drone. Would the U.S. be able to control escalation if
an American were killed?"

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On 1/29/24 5:58 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 3:45:52 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:

On 1/28/24 11:42 AM, ScottW wrote:

EVERYTHING is a political calculation... these days.

For more reading, from 2020:

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/al-tanf-garrison-americas-strategic-baggage-in-the-middle-east/

"Finally, there are escalatory risks that exist with the extended U.S.
military presence at Al Tanf.

Another SPP from Stephen. The base hit was in Jordan.

Doesn't change the general point. Al Tanf and the base hit are both
examples of "strategic baggage," a "military commitment that has
outlasted its utility."

Tower 22 is in Rukban, only about thirty-some miles from Al Tanf.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/1/29/what-is-tower-22-the-jordan-based-us-outpost-targeted-in-a-drone-strike

"Public information about the outpost is limited. However, according to
media reports, Tower 22 serves as a supply hub for the nearby US
garrison of al-Tanf located across the border in Syria."

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On 1/31/24 6:45 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 4:13:13 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:

On 1/29/24 5:58 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 3:45:52 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:

On 1/28/24 11:42 AM, ScottW wrote:

EVERYTHING is a political calculation... these days.

For more reading, from 2020:

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/al-tanf-garrison-americas-strategic-baggage-in-the-middle-east/

"Finally, there are escalatory risks that exist with the extended U.S. >>>> military presence at Al Tanf.

Another SPP from Stephen. The base hit was in Jordan.

Doesn't change the general point. Al Tanf and the base hit are both
examples of "strategic baggage," a "military commitment that has
outlasted its utility."

So you write off the dead soldiers as "strategic baggage".

No, that would trivialize their sacrifice by personalizing something the requires a greater perspective.

Their families will be so relieved to know that Biden let them die
as a military commitment that has outlasted their utility.

Seriously....WTF is WRONG with YOU?

With ME? You fall on your face with an uninformed gotcha and I have the problem? Equating every hostile Iranian act as "failed deterrence" is
reductive and absurd.

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On 2/2/24 11:34 AM, ScottW wrote:

On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 7:44:48 AM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:

On 1/31/24 6:45 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 4:13:13 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:

On 1/29/24 5:58 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 3:45:52 PM UTC-8, mINE109 wrote:

On 1/28/24 11:42 AM, ScottW wrote:

EVERYTHING is a political calculation... these days.

For more reading, from 2020:

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/al-tanf-garrison-americas-strategic-baggage-in-the-middle-east/

"Finally, there are escalatory risks that exist with the extended U.S. >>>>>> military presence at Al Tanf.

Another SPP from Stephen. The base hit was in Jordan.

Doesn't change the general point. Al Tanf and the base hit are both
examples of "strategic baggage," a "military commitment that has
outlasted its utility."

So you write off the dead soldiers as "strategic baggage".

No, that would trivialize their sacrifice by personalizing something the
requires a greater perspective.

Word salad/

I'm sorry if you can't follow multi-syllabic words.

Their families will be so relieved to know that Biden let them die
as a military commitment that has outlasted their utility.

Seriously....WTF is WRONG with YOU?

With ME? You fall on your face with an uninformed gotcha

You have no distinction between bases in Jordan...an ally vs
in Syria....an adversary. GMAFB.

You were so quick to gotcha that one was in Syria and the other in
Jordan you didn't notice they're in the same region and only a few miles
from each other. It hasn't occurred to you that Syria and Jordan aren't
exactly in control of those areas.

and I have the
problem? Equating every hostile Iranian act as "failed deterrence" is
reductive and absurd.

Reductive? LoL. Now you're just grasping at straws.

What is deterrence supposed to do? Hmmm....Deter.

Pretty reductive.

Is it also reductive to note the 'ol slow Joe has yet to respond to the attack?

Why do you think the President is on your timetable?

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On 2/2/24 2:24 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:

mINE109 wrote:

Is it also reductive to note the 'ol slow Joe has yet to respond to the attack?

Why do you think the President is on your timetable?

Witless is still gearing up to join the Taylor Swift-Pentagon-DNC conspiracy.

Remember when the alt-right thought she was a secret Aryan goddess? Hard
to get over that disappointment.

In the meantime, they're killing time by making up fantasies about the
"deep state" pulling Biden's strings.

He's either demented or a super-genius.

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