• Low noise recorder recommendation

    From Tobiah@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 19 08:27:24 2025
    I liked the HD-P2 for it's preamps. I could crank up
    the gain without much noise. I'll be recording nature
    sounds, and low-level household sounds, so my foremost
    concern is high gain, and low noise. I'll be using it
    with a pair of Rode NT-1A's.

    It might be nice if the unit had a pair of mics on it,
    but it's not necessary. It would be nice to be able
    to use it as an audio interface. I'm thinking about
    something like the Zoom H6, but I really only need
    two preamps, and I'd like to spend less.


    Thanks!

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  • From Tobiah@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 19 09:36:39 2025
    The Zoom F3 looks absolutely perfect. EIN -127 dBu and works
    with Android and laptop as interface. The price is the only barrier.
    I was thinking more around $180. May have to splurge.

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  • From Jimmy Logan@21:1/5 to Tobiah on Mon Sep 1 17:12:30 2025
    Hi, I think I have a similar "problem", trying to trace down some
    low freq noise and was also looking at Zoom F3,
    but I'd also need a microphone and don't know what to choose.. ,
    so I did not buy it, but would be very interested
    if someone can recommend a setup which is more suitable
    for such a task - recording low freq noise - like 20Hz - 150Hz -
    than a phone/headset mic :)
    I tried to record / listen to rule out tinnitus and/or me going crazy :)
    but did not hear it in the recording, just background noise,
    so its either the phone is not good for it, or its "just" a phantom
    sound.

    On 2025-04-19, Tobiah <toby@tobiah.org> wrote:
    The Zoom F3 looks absolutely perfect. EIN -127 dBu and works
    with Android and laptop as interface. The price is the only barrier.
    I was thinking more around $180. May have to splurge.












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  • From John Williamson@21:1/5 to Jimmy Logan on Mon Sep 1 19:17:31 2025
    On 01/09/2025 18:12, Jimmy Logan wrote:
    Hi, I think I have a similar "problem", trying to trace down some
    low freq noise and was also looking at Zoom F3,
    but I'd also need a microphone and don't know what to choose.. ,
    so I did not buy it, but would be very interested
    if someone can recommend a setup which is more suitable
    for such a task - recording low freq noise - like 20Hz - 150Hz -
    than a phone/headset mic :)
    I tried to record / listen to rule out tinnitus and/or me going crazy :)
    but did not hear it in the recording, just background noise,
    so its either the phone is not good for it, or its "just" a phantom
    sound.

    I have a Zoom H2 which gave a decent rendition of the 64 foot pipes on
    the Grande Orgue at Rouen cathedral using its internal microphones.

    My problem wasn't with the recording, it was with finding a speaker that
    could reproduce it. That may also be your problem, though phones do have
    some 'orribke filtering when recording audio, and the analogue parts are heavily optimised for understandable speech. Almost as bad as what they
    do to videos and images.

    --
    Tciao for Now!

    John.

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  • From Jimmy Logan@21:1/5 to John Williamson on Tue Sep 2 05:22:46 2025
    On 2025-09-01, John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
    On 01/09/2025 18:12, Jimmy Logan wrote:
    Hi, I think I have a similar "problem", trying to trace down some
    low freq noise and was also looking at Zoom F3,
    but I'd also need a microphone and don't know what to choose.. ,
    so I did not buy it, but would be very interested
    if someone can recommend a setup which is more suitable
    for such a task - recording low freq noise - like 20Hz - 150Hz -
    than a phone/headset mic :)
    I tried to record / listen to rule out tinnitus and/or me going crazy :)
    but did not hear it in the recording, just background noise,
    so its either the phone is not good for it, or its "just" a phantom
    sound.

    I have a Zoom H2 which gave a decent rendition of the 64 foot pipes on
    the Grande Orgue at Rouen cathedral using its internal microphones.

    My problem wasn't with the recording, it was with finding a speaker that could reproduce it. That may also be your problem, though phones do have
    some 'orribke filtering when recording audio, and the analogue parts are heavily optimised for understandable speech. Almost as bad as what they
    do to videos and images.

    Thanks for the idea, I'll double check the headphone specs; I
    thought speakers - as they are designed to play bass - should be more
    capable of playing LF sound than mics recording it. I've just started to
    learn more about sound / in depth, 2 weeks ago I had no idea about what
    is a standing wave / antinode and these stuff, for example :)

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  • From John Williamson@21:1/5 to Jimmy Logan on Tue Sep 2 09:02:31 2025
    On 02/09/2025 06:22, Jimmy Logan wrote:
    On 2025-09-01, John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
    On 01/09/2025 18:12, Jimmy Logan wrote:
    Hi, I think I have a similar "problem", trying to trace down some
    low freq noise and was also looking at Zoom F3,
    but I'd also need a microphone and don't know what to choose.. ,
    so I did not buy it, but would be very interested
    if someone can recommend a setup which is more suitable
    for such a task - recording low freq noise - like 20Hz - 150Hz -
    than a phone/headset mic :)
    I tried to record / listen to rule out tinnitus and/or me going crazy :) >>> but did not hear it in the recording, just background noise,
    so its either the phone is not good for it, or its "just" a phantom
    sound.

    I have a Zoom H2 which gave a decent rendition of the 64 foot pipes on
    the Grande Orgue at Rouen cathedral using its internal microphones.

    My problem wasn't with the recording, it was with finding a speaker that
    could reproduce it. That may also be your problem, though phones do have
    some 'orribke filtering when recording audio, and the analogue parts are
    heavily optimised for understandable speech. Almost as bad as what they
    do to videos and images.

    Thanks for the idea, I'll double check the headphone specs; I
    thought speakers - as they are designed to play bass - should be more
    capable of playing LF sound than mics recording it. I've just started to learn more about sound / in depth, 2 weeks ago I had no idea about what
    is a standing wave / antinode and these stuff, for example :)

    To give an idea of how limited most domestic equipment is when
    reproducing bass, listen to a CD of "Diamonds on the soles of her shoes"
    by Paul Simon. With decent bass, you can feel the voices in the a
    capella section in your chest.

    Microphones are often more linear and go lower than speakers, which
    suffer from the problem of having to move very large amounts of air for
    bass as against higher frequencies. I had 100 Watt main speakers and a
    600 Watt sub in my mixing room when I was mixing CDs for sale. I miss
    that system, but the neightbours don't.

    --
    Tciao for Now!

    John.

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  • From Liz Tuddenham@21:1/5 to John Williamson on Tue Sep 2 15:34:17 2025
    John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:

    On 02/09/2025 06:22, Jimmy Logan wrote:
    On 2025-09-01, John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
    On 01/09/2025 18:12, Jimmy Logan wrote:
    Hi, I think I have a similar "problem", trying to trace down some
    low freq noise and was also looking at Zoom F3,
    but I'd also need a microphone and don't know what to choose.. ,
    so I did not buy it, but would be very interested
    if someone can recommend a setup which is more suitable
    for such a task - recording low freq noise - like 20Hz - 150Hz -
    than a phone/headset mic :)
    I tried to record / listen to rule out tinnitus and/or me going crazy :) >>> but did not hear it in the recording, just background noise,
    so its either the phone is not good for it, or its "just" a phantom
    sound.

    I have a Zoom H2 which gave a decent rendition of the 64 foot pipes on
    the Grande Orgue at Rouen cathedral using its internal microphones.

    My problem wasn't with the recording, it was with finding a speaker that >> could reproduce it. That may also be your problem, though phones do have >> some 'orribke filtering when recording audio, and the analogue parts are >> heavily optimised for understandable speech. Almost as bad as what they
    do to videos and images.

    Thanks for the idea, I'll double check the headphone specs; I
    thought speakers - as they are designed to play bass - should be more capable of playing LF sound than mics recording it. I've just started to learn more about sound / in depth, 2 weeks ago I had no idea about what
    is a standing wave / antinode and these stuff, for example :)

    To give an idea of how limited most domestic equipment is when
    reproducing bass, listen to a CD of "Diamonds on the soles of her shoes"
    by Paul Simon. With decent bass, you can feel the voices in the a
    capella section in your chest.

    Microphones are often more linear and go lower than speakers, which
    suffer from the problem of having to move very large amounts of air for
    bass as against higher frequencies. I had 100 Watt main speakers and a
    600 Watt sub in my mixing room when I was mixing CDs for sale. I miss
    that system, but the neightbours don't.

    If the intervening walls are too flexible, the missing bass you are compensating for finishes up at the neighbours.

    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk

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