I recently discussed my coyote audio capture methods with a friend of
mine, who is an electrical engineer. He suggested using a large cone to >accomplish the same task citing that it was less bulky and cumbersome
than the dish and might even perform better. I told him that I would be >concerned with how it would affect the frequency response, but, on the
other hand, so does the parabolic system I made. Just out of curiosity,
any idea why cones are not used?
On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 07:51:14 -0500, Jake T <jaketbone@steak.com>
wrote:
I recently discussed my coyote audio capture methods with a friend of
mine, who is an electrical engineer. He suggested using a large cone to >>accomplish the same task citing that it was less bulky and cumbersome
than the dish and might even perform better. I told him that I would be >>concerned with how it would affect the frequency response, but, on the >>other hand, so does the parabolic system I made. Just out of curiosity, >>any idea why cones are not used?
Cones have a different function that makes them more suited to
speakers. The reflector makes a sound beam - which is what you want.
The cone works as an impedance transformer matching the air to the mic >diaphragm. So while it makes things louder, it does not do a great
deal for directivity.
You are trying to minimize pickup off axis, which is what the
reflector does.
d
On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 12:58:02 GMT, spam@spam.com (Don Pearce) wrote:
On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 07:51:14 -0500, Jake T <jaketbone@steak.com>
wrote:
I recently discussed my coyote audio capture methods with a friend of
mine, who is an electrical engineer. He suggested using a large cone to >>> accomplish the same task citing that it was less bulky and cumbersome
than the dish and might even perform better. I told him that I would be >>> concerned with how it would affect the frequency response, but, on the
other hand, so does the parabolic system I made. Just out of curiosity, >>> any idea why cones are not used?
Cones have a different function that makes them more suited to
speakers. The reflector makes a sound beam - which is what you want.
The cone works as an impedance transformer matching the air to the mic
diaphragm. So while it makes things louder, it does not do a great
deal for directivity.
You are trying to minimize pickup off axis, which is what the
reflector does.
d
Should add - when you say cone, I presume you are talking about a horn
- like on a loudhailer.
d
Interesting. When he was talking about the cone, I was thinking about >shotgun mics in my mind, but also realizing that they used cylinders and
not cones. I figured there was a reason cones weren't used, so thanks
for the info. He did send this:
https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/aircraft-detection-radar-1917-1940/
I can imagine being the soldier assigned to that task and would hope and
pray that I sure didn't misinterpret the sound only to realize an attack
a few minutes later when it was too late!
Maybe this will help.
https://tyfordaudiovideo.blogspot.com/2018/07/klover-parabolic-collector-microphone.html
Regards,
Ty Ford
On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 06:09:09 -0800 (PST), Ty Ford
<tyre3ef0rd@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe this will help.
https://tyfordaudiovideo.blogspot.com/2018/07/klover-parabolic-collector-microphone.html
Regards,
Ty Ford
Interesting video there. As you were standing quite close to the dish
you should have pulled the mic away from the dish to focus on you (1/v
+ 1/u = 1/f). And you were hearing the brightening I talked about
earlier which is due to the dish having a 6dB per octave rise due to
beam narrowing with increasing frequency.
d
I recently discussed my coyote audio capture methods with a friend of
mine, who is an electrical engineer. He suggested using a large cone to accomplish the same task citing that it was less bulky and cumbersome
than the dish and might even perform better. I told him that I would be concerned with how it would affect the frequency response, but, on the
other hand, so does the parabolic system I made. Just out of curiosity,
any idea why cones are not used?
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