A friend of mine bought a used FedEx 2011 Mercedes Sprinter 2500 turbo
diesel which he asked me about but I know nothing about German vehicles.
He wants to remove the 67 mph engine speed governor and he asked me if it also is the reason the acceleration from stop is so slow.
Also he went to Home Depot & Ace to make the ignition & back door keys but they don't have the blanks.
One last thing is it uses a quart or two of oil a week but it's not leaking when he pulls into his driveway - is that normal?
He's not mechanically inclined where I am a bit but I don't know anything about diesels nor about commercial vehicles nor about German vehicles.
Do you?
I fix stuff and I know things
A friend of mine bought a used FedEx 2011 Mercedes Sprinter 2500 turbo
diesel which he asked me about but I know nothing about German vehicles.
He wants to remove the 67 mph engine speed governor and he asked me if it also is the reason the acceleration from stop is so slow.
Also he went to Home Depot & Ace to make the ignition & back door keys but they don't have the blanks.
One last thing is it uses a quart or two of oil a week but it's not leaking when he pulls into his driveway - is that normal?
He's not mechanically inclined where I am a bit but I don't know anything about diesels nor about commercial vehicles nor about German vehicles.
Do you?
I see what the problem is here. I'm talking in English
Wade Garrett said:
I fix stuff and I know things
What do you know about how to find and remove the governor?
And where did you last get your set of Mercedes ignition & door key blanks?
Wade Garrett said:
I see what the problem is here. I'm talking in English
You think wasting everyone's time is funny?
You know nothing about the subject.
Yet you felt compelled to prove you are a retard?
I'm trying to solve a problem here.
You're just trying to prove you are a retard.
Moving onward, I found that the Mercedes Sprinter needs special software to change the governor to the 82 mph that is supposedly the factory default.
If anyone has a link to where to get that software and cabling, please let
me know so I can solve that problem.
On the motor oil, it seems that these engines may eat oil due to the way Mercedes breaks in the piston rings.
And on the keys, if people know of a good online supplier for Mercedes
blanks for me to recommend, please do - but only if you've already used Mercedes' ignition key and/or door key blanks before as the wrong blank
does nobody any good.
Thanks in advance of the kind help.
If you can't help, please don't waste everyon'e time proving to be a
retard.
A friend of mine bought a used FedEx 2011 Mercedes Sprinter 2500 turbo
diesel which he asked me about but I know nothing about German vehicles.
He wants to remove the 67 mph engine speed governor and he asked me if it >also is the reason the acceleration from stop is so slow.
Also he went to Home Depot & Ace to make the ignition & back door keys but >they don't have the blanks.
One last thing is it uses a quart or two of oil a week but it's not leaking >when he pulls into his driveway - is that normal?
He's not mechanically inclined where I am a bit but I don't know anything >about diesels nor about commercial vehicles nor about German vehicles.
harry hornsley <harry@delwatergap.com> wrote:
A friend of mine bought a used FedEx 2011 Mercedes Sprinter 2500 turbo
diesel which he asked me about but I know nothing about German vehicles.
Send him to https://sprinter-source.com
He wants to remove the 67 mph engine speed governor and he asked me if it
also is the reason the acceleration from stop is so slow.
It's a software change. Take it to a legitimate independent Mercedes mechanic who will have the correct tool to shut it off permanently. There are various silly workarounds out there, but do it right because if it is accelerating poorly they should definitely be looking at the engine parameters to see why.
Also he went to Home Depot & Ace to make the ignition & back door keys but >> they don't have the blanks.
No, they wouldn't, but it wouldn't do them any good anyway because they can't program the fob. A real locksmith may have the tools, as will a Mercedes
or Freightliner shop.
One last thing is it uses a quart or two of oil a week but it's not leaking >> when he pulls into his driveway - is that normal?
Definitely not, this is the sign of big trouble.
He's not mechanically inclined where I am a bit but I don't know anything
about diesels nor about commercial vehicles nor about German vehicles.
He's not mechanically inclined and he bought a used fleet vehicle without having a mechanic check it out first?
Your friend needs to find a local independent Mercedes mechanic and google will
probably help him with that.
--scott
The engine is probably quite tired.
Also he went to Home Depot & Ace to make the ignition & back door keys but >>> they don't have the blanks.
No, they wouldn't, but it wouldn't do them any good anyway because they can't
program the fob. A real locksmith may have the tools, as will a Mercedes
or Freightliner shop.
One last thing is it uses a quart or two of oil a week but it's not leaking >>> when he pulls into his driveway - is that normal?
That's a lot of oil. Back in the good old days half a quart of oil consumption per thousand miles was considered normal. There has been
nothing stated from the OP concerning just how many miles that POS will
do in a week currently. Does he do 100 miles a week, a 1,000???
Definitely not, this is the sign of big trouble.
Big expensive trouble that will exceed the residual value of the vehicle.
He's not mechanically inclined where I am a bit but I don't know anything >>> about diesels nor about commercial vehicles nor about German vehicles.
He's not mechanically inclined and he bought a used fleet vehicle without
having a mechanic check it out first?
Yes, I thought that quite inane too.
I somehow think he is beyond any reasonable help.
Your friend needs to find a local independent Mercedes mechanic and google will
probably help him with that.
A friend of mine bought a used FedEx 2011 Mercedes Sprinter 2500 turbo >>diesel which he asked me about but I know nothing about German vehicles.
Send him to https://sprinter-source.com
He wants to remove the 67 mph engine speed governor and he asked me if it >>also is the reason the acceleration from stop is so slow.
It's a software change. Take it to a legitimate independent Mercedes mechanic who will have the correct tool to shut it off permanently. There are various silly workarounds out there, but do it right because if it is accelerating poorly they should definitely be looking at the engine parameters to see why.
Also he went to Home Depot & Ace to make the ignition & back door keys but >>they don't have the blanks.
No, they wouldn't, but it wouldn't do them any good anyway because they can't program the fob. A real locksmith may have the tools, as will a Mercedes
or Freightliner shop.
One last thing is it uses a quart or two of oil a week but it's not leaking >>when he pulls into his driveway - is that normal?
Definitely not, this is the sign of big trouble.
He's not mechanically inclined where I am a bit but I don't know anything >>about diesels nor about commercial vehicles nor about German vehicles.
He's not mechanically inclined and he bought a used fleet vehicle without having a mechanic check it out first?
Your friend needs to find a local independent Mercedes mechanic and google will
probably help him with that.
Also he went to Home Depot & Ace to make the ignition & back door keys but >>>they don't have the blanks.
No, they wouldn't, but it wouldn't do them any good anyway because they can't
program the fob. A real locksmith may have the tools, as will a Mercedes
or Freightliner shop.
While I knew the most common answer is a "real locksmith" can do anything,
I was hoping for an Internet source for the blanks at least.
I don't know what "Freightliner" means. I googled it. >https://freightliner.com/
I still don't know what it means.
Are Mercedes Sprinter truck locks/keys made by the Freightliner company?
One last thing is it uses a quart or two of oil a week but it's not leaking >>>when he pulls into his driveway - is that normal?
Definitely not, this is the sign of big trouble.
I've heard that it's quite normal and then I've heard that it's not quite >normal so for now since it's not literally leaking, I don't think there's >anything he can do. The truck only has 270K miles so that's low mileage for >such a vehicle but I don't know anything about how diesels consume oil.
Everyone on the planet needs to find a local indy mechanic, but he asked me >to look up the information for him on the Internet which is all that I can
do for him since I know nothing about diesels and even less about Mercedes.
Xeno said:
The engine is probably quite tired.
The engine had I thought 250K but I looked and it's 270K but I've run vehicles well beyond that myself (not turbos, and not diesels though) and
if it was properly maintained, that should be about the half life of an engine, shouldn't it be?
I'm assuming FedEx maintained their engines well.
Also he went to Home Depot & Ace to make the ignition & back door keys but >>>> they don't have the blanks.
No, they wouldn't, but it wouldn't do them any good anyway because they can't
program the fob. A real locksmith may have the tools, as will a Mercedes >>> or Freightliner shop.
I don't know if the fob is electronic on the 2011 because certainly the
back door key is not electronic. The ignition key swings out of the fob but
I don't know if the fob is electronic other than it has buttons for opening and locking the doors.
Do you know for sure that the 2011 has a chip in the key fob?
One last thing is it uses a quart or two of oil a week but it's not leaking
when he pulls into his driveway - is that normal?
That's a lot of oil. Back in the good old days half a quart of oil
consumption per thousand miles was considered normal. There has been
nothing stated from the OP concerning just how many miles that POS will
do in a week currently. Does he do 100 miles a week, a 1,000???
I had said this multiple times but I'll repeat it since you're trying to help. He is in remodeling. He's a single-man shop. He uses the truck to get to the daily jobs. Every job will be a different distance. The current job
is 17 miles away from his home which he says is about average.
With errands, that comes to roughly about 50 to 75 miles a day which we can say then is about 250 to 375 miles a week or so.
Definitely not, this is the sign of big trouble.
Big expensive trouble that will exceed the residual value of the vehicle.
It always amazes me when people care so much about "residual value" of a vehicle? Who cares about that? It's like buying a nail to use on a construction job and worrying about the residual value of the leftovers.
A truck like that is a tool. Nobody sensible cares about the residual value of their tools, do they? Why would anyone make any decision based on
residual value? Are they that greedy that selling all their tools is all
that they care about?
I'm sorry for going off on you on that so please just take it as a given
that I've heard this residual value stuff for five decades and I just don't understand how a person thinks when they care about something that is so meaningless that I have to wonder what their brains are doing.
If, for example, you need a roof rack or a hitch or a brighter headlight or
a set of tires or a shock absorber, etc., you need it. You don't buy a "better one" just for "residual value". Do you?
He's not mechanically inclined where I am a bit but I don't know anything >>>> about diesels nor about commercial vehicles nor about German vehicles.
He's not mechanically inclined and he bought a used fleet vehicle without >>> having a mechanic check it out first?
Yes, I thought that quite inane too.
It's inane to you because you must have infinite money. If you don't have infinite money, then you buy a used vehicle.
I somehow think he is beyond any reasonable help.
Your friend needs to find a local independent Mercedes mechanic and google will
probably help him with that.
That's unduly harsh.
He is a business man who owns his own business.
He doesn't have infinite money like you do.
So he buys a used vehicle instead of a new one.
If it has an immobiliser, it will likely have a chip in the fob. I'm
pretty sure immobilisers have been in vogue since the 2000ish.
If he's running a business, why does he not buy a new or newer more
reliable vehicle rather than one that has had the life beaten out of in
a *commercial endeavour*?? All the people I know who run a business put
a *reliable* vehicle above a *cheap* vehicle. It is why the Toyota Hilux
is the most popular ute out there in *industry*. As a business, you're
not earning money when your vehicle is off the road getting fixed. The
older and more clapped out that vehicle is, the more downtime you accrue
- and the more *customers* lose faith in you. I thought this was a
common sense thing but it appears common sense might not be as common as
I thought.
There are times when you need concern yourself with the concept of
throwing good money after bad. If you're running a business, ROI is a critical aspect.
You are displaying a clear ignorance of *residual value* so pointless discussing this particular issue further with you.
If you don't have infinite money, and you need a *reliable* vehicle for
a business, then you *borrow* the money for the purchase and claim the repayments against your tax. That's the way all the business people
operate that I know, to the extent they *lease* their vehicles.
While I knew the most common answer is a "real locksmith" can do anything, >>I was hoping for an Internet source for the blanks at least.
The blanks won't do you any good because after you cut them, you won't be able to start the car without programming the fob. Specific programming hardware is needed. If you just cut the key, you'll get something that will open the door but not start the vehicle.
I don't know what "Freightliner" means. I googled it. >>https://freightliner.com/
I still don't know what it means.
Are Mercedes Sprinter truck locks/keys made by the Freightliner company?
Freightliner sells big trucks. You may see their name on the front of
many trucks on the highway. For many years, they also resold the Sprinter, as did Chrysler. So you can see Sprinters out there which have any one
of those three names on the front.
The Mercedes and Freightliner versions are slightly different. But a
truck shop that handles newer Freightliner trucks should be able to
program those keys.
Xeno said:
If it has an immobiliser, it will likely have a chip in the fob. I'm
pretty sure immobilisers have been in vogue since the 2000ish.
What would I look for in his truck to know if it has an immobilizer?
I've driven it myself.
a. You unlock the doors with the fob.
b. You start the ignition with the ignition key.
Where's the immobilizer coming into play?
How do I know if it's coming into play?
If he's running a business, why does he not buy a new or newer more
reliable vehicle rather than one that has had the life beaten out of in
a *commercial endeavour*?? All the people I know who run a business put
a *reliable* vehicle above a *cheap* vehicle. It is why the Toyota Hilux
is the most popular ute out there in *industry*. As a business, you're
not earning money when your vehicle is off the road getting fixed. The
older and more clapped out that vehicle is, the more downtime you accrue
- and the more *customers* lose faith in you. I thought this was a
common sense thing but it appears common sense might not be as common as
I thought.
You say the vehicle is unreliable. I asked him how many times it has broken down in the past few months he has had it and he said a tire blew out once.
That's it.
How unreliable is that?
There are times when you need concern yourself with the concept of
throwing good money after bad. If you're running a business, ROI is a
critical aspect.
For decades I've heard people making decisions that are just not sensible such as doing something so that a vehicle when sold has extra value.
It's a depreciating asset.
It makes no sense to do anything to a depreciating asset simply for the purpose of maintaining it's resale value in my humblest of opinions.
At least that is what I was taught when I last took economics decades ago.
You are displaying a clear ignorance of *residual value* so pointless
discussing this particular issue further with you.
Maybe. But it's a used vehicle. A used vehicle is cheaper BECAUSE it's
used. You take some risk when you buy a used vehicle.
That's how it works.
You can lecture me all you want about how you would have bought a brand new vehicle but that doesn't help to answer the questions posed.
If you don't have infinite money, and you need a *reliable* vehicle for
a business, then you *borrow* the money for the purchase and claim the
repayments against your tax. That's the way all the business people
operate that I know, to the extent they *lease* their vehicles.
There is no evidence the vehicle isn't reliable enough for his needs.
If you have infinite money, I get it that you'd buy a new vehicle.
But he doesn't have infinite money. He's barely breaking even.
Anyway, lectures don't help solve the questions asked, do they?
I'm hoping the key isn't chipped (as I don't see evidence that it is).
I'm also hoping that if it is chipped, that programming can be done by the individual like it is with many cars (I've done it for a Toyota).
I've even removed the immobilizer for a toyota (which was as simple as pulling out the ignition relay and replacing it with the stock relay).
But I don't see any overt evidence that it even has an immobilizer.
How would I know?
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