A teen failed her driving test and the instructor wrote that she failed to check her blind spot when making a right turn at an intersection with a
green light when the car crossed the bike lane to the right.
On my car, there is no blind spot.
I set the mirrors so that I can see any vehicle next to me.
From behind the car, to behind the c pillar and up to the b pillar.
The car only leaves the mirrors when it crosses the b pillar.
And then I look (when turning right) into the passenger window.
Where is this blind spot the instructor is talking about?
And how do you properly cross a bike land when making a right turn?
On 8/1/2023 3:40 PM, Wally J wrote:
A teen failed her driving test and the instructor wrote that she
failed to
check her blind spot when making a right turn at an intersection with a
green light when the car crossed the bike lane to the right.
On my car, there is no blind spot.
I set the mirrors so that I can see any vehicle next to me.
 From behind the car, to behind the c pillar and up to the b pillar.
The car only leaves the mirrors when it crosses the b pillar.
And then I look (when turning right) into the passenger window.
Where is this blind spot the instructor is talking about?
And how do you properly cross a bike land when making a right turn?
Basically "not checking the blind spot" means she relied totally on the mirror and she didn't turn her head to look out the side windows (front
& rear).
When you are doing a driving test you are supposed to do everything by
the book.
A teen failed her driving test and the instructor wrote that she failed to >check her blind spot when making a right turn at an intersection with a
green light when the car crossed the bike lane to the right.
On my car, there is no blind spot.
I set the mirrors so that I can see any vehicle next to me.
From behind the car, to behind the c pillar and up to the b pillar.
The car only leaves the mirrors when it crosses the b pillar.
And then I look (when turning right) into the passenger window.
Where is this blind spot the instructor is talking about?
And how do you properly cross a bike land when making a right turn?
On 8/1/2023 4:07 PM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
On 8/1/2023 3:40 PM, Wally J wrote:From what I've been told, same think backing up. Cars have cameras
A teen failed her driving test and the instructor wrote that she
failed to
check her blind spot when making a right turn at an intersection with a
green light when the car crossed the bike lane to the right.
On my car, there is no blind spot.
I set the mirrors so that I can see any vehicle next to me.
 From behind the car, to behind the c pillar and up to the b pillar.
The car only leaves the mirrors when it crosses the b pillar.
And then I look (when turning right) into the passenger window.
Where is this blind spot the instructor is talking about?
And how do you properly cross a bike land when making a right turn?
Basically "not checking the blind spot" means she relied totally on
the mirror and she didn't turn her head to look out the side windows
(front & rear).
When you are doing a driving test you are supposed to do everything
by the book.
now, often excellent, but the testing person still wants to see you
turn around to look.
In reality, I trust my camera more than my turned head.
A teen failed her driving test and the instructor wrote that she
failed to check her blind spot when making a right turn at an
intersection with a green light when the car crossed the bike lane to
the right.
On my car, there is no blind spot.
I set the mirrors so that I can see any vehicle next to me.
From behind the car, to behind the c pillar and up to the b pillar.
The car only leaves the mirrors when it crosses the b pillar.
And then I look (when turning right) into the passenger window.
Where is this blind spot the instructor is talking about?
And how do you properly cross a bike land when making a right turn?
We also had to parallel park between two cones to pass the test. These
days parallel parking is not required, at least in Virginia. When we
arrived at the testing station after the road test, the test instructor
told me to pull over rather than park between the cones. He said
there's no way he could parallel park that monster and he didn't want
to fail me for that!
On 8/2/2023 7:45 AM, badgolferman wrote:
We also had to parallel park between two cones to pass the test.
These days parallel parking is not required, at least in Virginia.
When we arrived at the testing station after the road test, the
test instructor told me to pull over rather than park between the
cones. He said there's no way he could parallel park that monster
and he didn't want to fail me for that!
When I first started driving (1961) I lived in Philadelphia. You had
to be able to parallel park or you'd just drive around forever. I
could get into some rather tight spots others would pass up.
I don't recall the last time I did it. Five years at least, maybe 10
or 15. Not sure how well I'd do since out of practice.
On 8/2/2023 7:45 AM, badgolferman wrote:
We also had to parallel park between two cones to pass the test. These
days parallel parking is not required, at least in Virginia. When we
arrived at the testing station after the road test, the test instructor
told me to pull over rather than park between the cones. He said
there's no way he could parallel park that monster and he didn't want
to fail me for that!
When I first started driving (1961) I lived in Philadelphia. You had to
be able to parallel park or you'd just drive around forever. I could
get into some rather tight spots others would pass up.
I don't recall the last time I did it. Five years at least, maybe 10 or
15. Not sure how well I'd do since out of practice.
Of course the blind spot is on the right rear and you're supposed to
turn your head to look.
In reality I adjust both my mirrors to be in
my blind spot rather than the side of the car and move my head to see
the side of the car for perspective in the mirror.
Since I started
riding a motorcycle five years ago I've made it a habit to turn my head
again and actually look when changing lanes to the right. Having said
all that I don't see how or why you would look in the blind spot when crossing over a bike lane unless you're going real slow or are stopped.
If you're moving at normal speeds you can see any bike you're
approaching and cross over without any chance of one coming up behind
you.
I took my first driver test in downtown Washington DC driving my
father's 1967 Cadillac Sedan DeVille. That beast was nearly 20 feet
long and hard to maneuver in the crowded and narrow streets of the
city. It also was old enough that it only had one side view mirror on
the driver's side. In those days the mirror was small and didn't stick
out a foot like they do now. You had to turn your head in both
directions when changing lanes because the one mirror was mostly
useless.
We also had to parallel park between two cones to pass the test. These
days parallel parking is not required, at least in Virginia. When we
arrived at the testing station after the road test, the test instructor
told me to pull over rather than park between the cones. He said
there's no way he could parallel park that monster and he didn't want
to fail me for that!
A teen failed her driving test and the instructor wrote that she failed to check her blind spot when making a right turn at an intersection with a
green light when the car crossed the bike lane to the right.
On my car, there is no blind spot.
I set the mirrors so that I can see any vehicle next to me.
From behind the car, to behind the c pillar and up to the b pillar.
The car only leaves the mirrors when it crosses the b pillar.
And then I look (when turning right) into the passenger window.
Where is this blind spot the instructor is talking about?
And how do you properly cross a bike land when making a right turn?
Ed P wrote:
On 8/2/2023 7:45 AM, badgolferman wrote:
We also had to parallel park between two cones to pass the test.
These days parallel parking is not required, at least in Virginia.
When we arrived at the testing station after the road test, the
test instructor told me to pull over rather than park between the
cones. He said there's no way he could parallel park that monster
and he didn't want to fail me for that!
When I first started driving (1961) I lived in Philadelphia. You had
to be able to parallel park or you'd just drive around forever. I
could get into some rather tight spots others would pass up.
I don't recall the last time I did it. Five years at least, maybe 10
or 15. Not sure how well I'd do since out of practice.
If you live anywhere near a medium sized city you still have to
parallel park, expecially if you go downtown or to government bureaus. Parking on the street is necessary for urban areas. I live in the
Hampton Roads area of SE Virginia and still have to park on the street
in many places.
Wally J wrote:
A teen failed her driving test and the instructor wrote that she
failed to check her blind spot when making a right turn at an
intersection with a green light when the car crossed the bike lane to
the right.
On my car, there is no blind spot.
I set the mirrors so that I can see any vehicle next to me.
From behind the car, to behind the c pillar and up to the b pillar.
The car only leaves the mirrors when it crosses the b pillar.
And then I look (when turning right) into the passenger window.
Where is this blind spot the instructor is talking about?
And how do you properly cross a bike land when making a right turn?
Of course the blind spot is on the right rear and you're supposed to
turn your head to look. In reality I adjust both my mirrors to be in
my blind spot rather than the side of the car and move my head to see
the side of the car for perspective in the mirror. Since I started
riding a motorcycle five years ago I've made it a habit to turn my head
again and actually look when changing lanes to the right. Having said
all that I don't see how or why you would look in the blind spot when crossing over a bike lane unless you're going real slow or are stopped.
If you're moving at normal speeds you can see any bike you're
approaching and cross over without any chance of one coming up behind
you.
I took my first driver test in downtown Washington DC driving my
father's 1967 Cadillac Sedan DeVille. That beast was nearly 20 feet
long and hard to maneuver in the crowded and narrow streets of the
city. It also was old enough that it only had one side view mirror on
the driver's side. In those days the mirror was small and didn't stick
out a foot like they do now. You had to turn your head in both
directions when changing lanes because the one mirror was mostly
useless.
We also had to parallel park between two cones to pass the test. These
days parallel parking is not required, at least in Virginia. When we
arrived at the testing station after the road test, the test instructor
told me to pull over rather than park between the cones. He said
there's no way he could parallel park that monster and he didn't want
to fail me for that!
What REALLY drives me nuts about the 2013 Corolla: too many blind
spots. Headrests. Pillars. Can't raise seat high enough to compensate
for the decreased glass at the lower edge of the windows. When I
contemplate a lane change or turn I do multiple head swivels, especially
in parking lots where I KNOW drivers are only looking for empty spaces
and pedestrians are only looking at their phones.
On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 08:41:05 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:
What REALLY drives me nuts about the 2013 Corolla: too many blindI have never had a passenger in my current car and someday will remember
spots. Headrests. Pillars. Can't raise seat high enough to compensate
for the decreased glass at the lower edge of the windows. When I
contemplate a lane change or turn I do multiple head swivels, especially
in parking lots where I KNOW drivers are only looking for empty spaces
and pedestrians are only looking at their phones.
to take the passenger head rest off. In parking lots and such when you're looking for things coming from the side it creates a huge blind spot.
On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 08:41:05 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:
What REALLY drives me nuts about the 2013 Corolla: too many blindI have never had a passenger in my current car and someday will remember
spots. Headrests. Pillars. Can't raise seat high enough to compensate
for the decreased glass at the lower edge of the windows. When I
contemplate a lane change or turn I do multiple head swivels, especially
in parking lots where I KNOW drivers are only looking for empty spaces
and pedestrians are only looking at their phones.
to take the passenger head rest off. In parking lots and such when you're looking for things coming from the side it creates a huge blind spot.
On 8/2/2023 11:19 PM, rbowman wrote:
On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 08:41:05 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:
What REALLY drives me nuts about the 2013 Corolla: too many blindI have never had a passenger in my current car and someday will remember
spots. Headrests. Pillars. Can't raise seat high enough to compensate >>> for the decreased glass at the lower edge of the windows. When I
contemplate a lane change or turn I do multiple head swivels, especially >>> in parking lots where I KNOW drivers are only looking for empty spaces
and pedestrians are only looking at their phones.
to take the passenger head rest off. In parking lots and such when you're
looking for things coming from the side it creates a huge blind spot.
You can slide the front passenger seat back like a passenger with very
long legs is sitting there, and recline the seat's back all the way like
the passenger is looking at the sunroof.
Parking lots are the worst -- the bastards can come at
you from all sides and just because the path was clear two seconds
ago doesn't mean that it's clear NOW.
The Real Bev wrote:
Parking lots are the worst -- the bastards can come at
you from all sides and just because the path was clear two seconds
ago doesn't mean that it's clear NOW.
I try to make it a point to back into parking spots. I feel it's much
safer getting out.
On 8/1/2023 4:07 PM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
On 8/1/2023 3:40 PM, Wally J wrote:
Where is this blind spot the instructor is talking about?
And how do you properly cross a bike land when making a right turn?
Basically "not checking the blind spot" means she relied totally on
the mirror and she didn't turn her head to look out the side windows
(front & rear).
When you are doing a driving test you are supposed to do everything by
the book.
From what I've been told, same think backing up. Cars have cameras now, often excellent, but the testing person still wants to see you turn
around to look.
In reality, I trust my camera more than my turned head.
On 8/2/2023 7:45 AM, badgolferman wrote:
We also had to parallel park between two cones to pass the test. These
days parallel parking is not required, at least in Virginia.
When we
arrived at the testing station after the road test, the test instructor
told me to pull over rather than park between the cones. He said
there's no way he could parallel park that monster and he didn't want
to fail me for that!
When I first started driving (1961) I lived in Philadelphia. You had to
be able to parallel park or you'd just drive around forever. I could get
into some rather tight spots others would pass up.
On 8/1/2023 4:49 PM, Ed P wrote:
In reality, I trust my camera more than my turned head.
Not me... even if I had some sort of back-up camera, I'd prefer to see
behind me instead. I've driven my grandfather's 2014 RAV-4 with a
back-up camera, and I don't particularly trust it.
Then again, my older cars have much smaller blind spots, smaller
b-pillars, and larger windows. Modern cars, particularly SUV's, are particularly difficult to see out of when you turn around.
A teen failed her driving test and the instructor wrote that she failed to check her blind spot when making a right turn at an intersection with a
green light when the car crossed the bike lane to the right.
On my car, there is no blind spot.
I set the mirrors so that I can see any vehicle next to me.
From behind the car, to behind the c pillar and up to the b pillar.
The car only leaves the mirrors when it crosses the b pillar.
And then I look (when turning right) into the passenger window.
Where is this blind spot the instructor is talking about?
And how do you properly cross a bike land when making a right turn?
I could do that really well when I drove big cars. I just KNEW where the edges were from decades of experience. The Corolla is very different.
Even though it's much smaller I have no idea about the edges and always
guess wrong.
What REALLY drives me nuts about the 2013 Corolla: too many blind spots. Headrests. Pillars. Can't raise seat high enough to compensate for the decreased glass at the lower edge of the windows. When I contemplate a
lane change or turn I do multiple head swivels, especially in parking
lots where I KNOW drivers are only looking for empty spaces and
pedestrians are only looking at their phones.
It never occurred to me that modern cars have much less seeability (!)
than older ones; if I'd thought about it I might have chosen a different
car. Probably not, though -- they ALL seem to look like that and I chose
the Corolla for reliability.
You can slide the front passenger seat back like a passenger with very
long legs is sitting there, and recline the seat's back all the way like
the passenger is looking at the sunroof.
The Real Bev wrote:
Parking lots are the worst -- the bastards can come at you from all
sides and just because the path was clear two seconds ago doesn't mean
that it's clear NOW.
I try to make it a point to back into parking spots. I feel it's much
safer getting out.
On 8/3/2023 10:14 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
On 8/1/2023 4:49 PM, Ed P wrote:
In reality, I trust my camera more than my turned head.
Not me... even if I had some sort of back-up camera, I'd prefer to see
behind me instead. I've driven my grandfather's 2014 RAV-4 with a
back-up camera, and I don't particularly trust it.
Then again, my older cars have much smaller blind spots, smaller
b-pillars, and larger windows. Modern cars, particularly SUV's, are
particularly difficult to see out of when you turn around.
I don't know what the view of that camera is, but new ones are far
better. My 2023 is better than my 2018 that was better than my 2013.
You do know why cameras were mandated don't you? Quite a few people
backed over their kids playing behind the car was a big one.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration estimates that on
average, 210 people are killed in backover accidents each year. More
than 7,000 are injured annually. Approximately half of all people killed
in backover accidents each year are children.
Next time you are in the neighborhood you can drive my car and it will
change your mind.
On 8/2/23 6:38 AM, Ed P wrote:
On 8/2/2023 7:45 AM, badgolferman wrote:
We also had to parallel park between two cones to pass the test. These
days parallel parking is not required, at least in Virginia. When we
arrived at the testing station after the road test, the test instructor
told me to pull over rather than park between the cones. He said
there's no way he could parallel park that monster and he didn't want
to fail me for that!
When I first started driving (1961) I lived in Philadelphia. You had to
be able to parallel park or you'd just drive around forever. I could
get into some rather tight spots others would pass up.
I could do that really well when I drove big cars. I just KNEW where
the edges were from decades of experience. The Corolla is very
different. Even though it's much smaller I have no idea about the edges
and always guess wrong.
What REALLY drives me nuts about the 2013 Corolla: too many blind
spots. Headrests. Pillars. Can't raise seat high enough to compensate
for the decreased glass at the lower edge of the windows. When I
contemplate a lane change or turn I do multiple head swivels, especially
in parking lots where I KNOW drivers are only looking for empty spaces
and pedestrians are only looking at their phones.
It never occurred to me that modern cars have much less seeability (!)
than older ones; if I'd thought about it I might have chosen a
different car. Probably not, though -- they ALL seem to look like that
and I chose the Corolla for reliability.
I don't recall the last time I did it. Five years at least, maybe 10 or
15. Not sure how well I'd do since out of practice.
I should practice for a while; it's shameful losing a skill.
Ed P wrote:
On 8/2/2023 7:45 AM, badgolferman wrote:
We also had to parallel park between two cones to pass the test.
These days parallel parking is not required, at least in Virginia.
When we arrived at the testing station after the road test, the
test instructor told me to pull over rather than park between the
cones. He said there's no way he could parallel park that monster
and he didn't want to fail me for that!
When I first started driving (1961) I lived in Philadelphia. You had
to be able to parallel park or you'd just drive around forever. I
could get into some rather tight spots others would pass up.
I don't recall the last time I did it. Five years at least, maybe 10
or 15. Not sure how well I'd do since out of practice.
If you live anywhere near a medium sized city you still have to
parallel park, expecially if you go downtown or to government bureaus. >Parking on the street is necessary for urban areas. I live in the
Hampton Roads area of SE Virginia and still have to park on the street
in many places.
On 8/2/2023 7:45 AM, badgolferman wrote:
We also had to parallel park between two cones to pass the test. These
days parallel parking is not required, at least in Virginia. When we
arrived at the testing station after the road test, the test instructor
told me to pull over rather than park between the cones. He said
there's no way he could parallel park that monster and he didn't want
to fail me for that!
When I first started driving (1961) I lived in Philadelphia. You had to
be able to parallel park or you'd just drive around forever. I could
get into some rather tight spots others would pass up.
I don't recall the last time I did it. Five years at least, maybe 10 or
15. Not sure how well I'd do since out of practice.
In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 3 Aug 2023 22:53:48 -0400, Ed P
<esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
On 8/3/2023 10:14 PM, Michael Trew wrote:It's part of natural selection, a way of eliminating children who play
On 8/1/2023 4:49 PM, Ed P wrote:I don't know what the view of that camera is, but new ones are far
In reality, I trust my camera more than my turned head.Not me... even if I had some sort of back-up camera, I'd prefer to see
behind me instead. I've driven my grandfather's 2014 RAV-4 with a
back-up camera, and I don't particularly trust it.
Then again, my older cars have much smaller blind spots, smaller
b-pillars, and larger windows. Modern cars, particularly SUV's, are
particularly difficult to see out of when you turn around.
better. My 2023 is better than my 2018 that was better than my 2013.
You do know why cameras were mandated don't you? Quite a few people
backed over their kids playing behind the car was a big one.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration estimates that on
average, 210 people are killed in backover accidents each year. More
than 7,000 are injured annually. Approximately half of all people killed
in backover accidents each year are children.
behind cars, so they won't have children who do the same thing.
Next time you are in the neighborhood you can drive my car and it willMy rental car in 2022 for 4 months, a Citroen, had a backup camera, and
change your mind.
I liked the camera, but it turned off the radio sound. And sometimes I
was in the middle of an important news story. So I'd have to wait to
backup.
Do they all turn off the radio sound? I suppose the add-ons don't but
I wanted the next car to have it as original equipment.
On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 16:14:11 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote:
The Real Bev wrote:I either back in or if in a parking lot find an empty slot where I can
Parking lots are the worst -- the bastards can come at you from allI try to make it a point to back into parking spots. I feel it's much
sides and just because the path was clear two seconds ago doesn't mean
that it's clear NOW.
safer getting out.
pull through to the other side. The problem is when you drive a Toyota
Yaris you need xray vision to see through the two massive pickups flanking you. I very gingerly ease the nose out. That's better than having to pull most of the car out to see anything.
I won't go into finding the car in a sea of pickups and SUVs. Putting a
flag on the stubby little antenna wouldn't buy me anything.
Larger modern cars, especially SUV's, are far worse. Corolla was
probably a good choice, but all modern cars have worse visibility.
During the summer, when I regularly drive old cars (right now is a
1969 Impala), I can parallel park with ease. Up to the 90's, most
cars still had good visibility... not as much now.
I was just down there last weekend.
I went to Washington's Birthplace and Jamestown.
The next day to Yorktown Battle Museum and Yorktown Battlefield (the
car tour includes the most beautiful woods I've ever seen.)
The next day to the Virginia War Museum and the Norfolk Zoo.
Still a lot of things to see on some future trip.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration estimates that on
average, 210 people are killed in backover accidents each year. More
than 7,000 are injured annually. Approximately half of all people killed
in backover accidents each year are children.
It's part of natural selection, a way of eliminating children who play
behind cars, so they won't have children who do the same thing.
Next time you are in the neighborhood you can drive my car and it will
change your mind.
My rental car in 2022 for 4 months, a Citroen, had a backup camera, and
I liked the camera, but it turned off the radio sound. And sometimes I
was in the middle of an important news story. So I'd have to wait to
backup.
Do they all turn off the radio sound? I suppose the add-ons don't but
I wanted the next car to have it as original equipment.
Use a Garmin pocket GPS to mark the spot before you walk away, and then
use the GPS to find your way back to the car.
Or get a car alarm system with extra long range remote, so you can use
your remote to make your car chirp and then follow the sound to find
your car.
If yours turns off the radio, then maybe they want you to concentrate
when you backup. You might miss some car honking at you if your radio is deafeningly loud.
Next time you're here make sure to see the Jamestown Settlement too.
Busch Gardens amusement park is worth the price of admission.
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 2 Aug 2023 09:38:34 -0400, Ed P
<esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
On 8/2/2023 7:45 AM, badgolferman wrote:
We also had to parallel park between two cones to pass the test. These
days parallel parking is not required, at least in Virginia. When we
arrived at the testing station after the road test, the test instructor
told me to pull over rather than park between the cones. He said
there's no way he could parallel park that monster and he didn't want
to fail me for that!
When I first started driving (1961) I lived in Philadelphia. You had to
be able to parallel park or you'd just drive around forever. I could
get into some rather tight spots others would pass up.
I don't recall the last time I did it. Five years at least, maybe 10 or >>15. Not sure how well I'd do since out of practice.
I did it today, and on the left side of the road. When I started to go
back, I saw in the mirror that the guy who would be parked behind me was >pulling out. So I waited and by the time I parked, the 3 spots behind
me were all empty.
It was nice that there was available parking. There used to be none in
this n'hood near Johns Hopkins University, but they took a wide street
and put parking on both sides of the median, plus next to the curb, 4
lanes.
To pay, 50 cents for 30 minutes, up to 2 hours, you had to put in your >license plate, but didn't need to put anything on the windshield.
I had to return my GPS to Amazon.
On 8/2/23 8:34 PM, ? Mighty Wannabe ? wrote:
On 8/2/2023 11:19 PM, rbowman wrote:
On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 08:41:05 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:
What REALLY drives me nuts about the 2013 Corolla: too many blindI have never had a passenger in my current car and someday will remember >>> to take the passenger head rest off. In parking lots and such when you're >>> looking for things coming from the side it creates a huge blind spot.
spots. Headrests. Pillars. Can't raise seat high enough to compensate >>>> for the decreased glass at the lower edge of the windows. When I
contemplate a lane change or turn I do multiple head swivels, especially >>>> in parking lots where I KNOW drivers are only looking for empty spaces >>>> and pedestrians are only looking at their phones.
You can slide the front passenger seat back like a passenger with very
long legs is sitting there, and recline the seat's back all the way like
the passenger is looking at the sunroof.
All my passengers have long legs :-(
I should remove the rear-seat headrests, but it's my OWN that bothers me
the most --
I have to tilt my body to the right in order to see around
the damn thing. Parking lots are the worst -- the bastards can come at
you from all sides and just because the path was clear two seconds ago >doesn't mean that it's clear NOW.
I didn't really appreciate the seeability of the 1988 Caddy that tried
to kill me. There are always tradeoffs, right?
micky wrote:
I was just down there last weekend.
I went to Washington's Birthplace and Jamestown.
The next day to Yorktown Battle Museum and Yorktown Battlefield (the
car tour includes the most beautiful woods I've ever seen.)
The next day to the Virginia War Museum and the Norfolk Zoo.
Still a lot of things to see on some future trip.
We still have a ferry which goes between Surry and Jamestown across the
James River.
I often take that when out for a leisurely motorcycle
ride. Then of course there's the Colonial Parkway which goes from
Jamestown through Williamsburg to Yorktown right along the James River
and has some very picturesque scenery.
Next time you're here make sure
to see the Jamestown Settlement too.
Busch Gardens amusement park is
worth the price of admission.
The Real Bev wrote:
Parking lots are the worst -- the bastards can come at
you from all sides and just because the path was clear two seconds
ago doesn't mean that it's clear NOW.
I try to make it a point to back into parking spots. I feel it's much
safer getting out.
In Ohio, they place out 5 cones, and you start with the front bumper at
the first cone. Four of the cones are arranged in a rectangle, and the fifth one is ahead of them in the center. When you pull into the
traffic cone rectangle, the instructor advises you to pull to the left
or right, then you stop with your rear bumper at the front cone, and
back through to the beginning. I guess this simulates parallel parking.
My rental car in 2022 for 4 months, a Citroen, had a backup camera, and
I liked the camera, but it turned off the radio sound. And sometimes I
was in the middle of an important news story. So I'd have to wait to
backup.
Do they all turn off the radio sound? I suppose the add-ons don't but
I wanted the next car to have it as original equipment.
My 2017 VW Jetta has OEM radio and backup camera. When I shift to
reverse, the backup camera displays on the radio's LCD touch screen, but
the radio keeps going unfazed.
If yours turns off the radio, then maybe they want you to concentrate
when you backup.
You might miss some car honking at you if your radio is
deafeningly loud.
On 8/4/2023 3:28 AM, micky wrote:
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration estimates that on
average, 210 people are killed in backover accidents each year. More
than 7,000 are injured annually. Approximately half of all people killed >>> in backover accidents each year are children.
It's part of natural selection, a way of eliminating children who play
behind cars, so they won't have children who do the same thing.
Next time you are in the neighborhood you can drive my car and it will
change your mind.
My rental car in 2022 for 4 months, a Citroen, had a backup camera, and
I liked the camera, but it turned off the radio sound. And sometimes I
was in the middle of an important news story. So I'd have to wait to
backup.
Do they all turn off the radio sound? I suppose the add-ons don't but
I wanted the next car to have it as original equipment.
Last three cars it just lowed the volume
Since I stopped sleeping on my belly, my neck has lots its ability to
turn 90^.
Would stretching exercises put my neck back to normal?
On 8/2/2023 11:41 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
I could do that really well when I drove big cars. I just KNEW where the
edges were from decades of experience. The Corolla is very different.
Even though it's much smaller I have no idea about the edges and always
guess wrong.
What REALLY drives me nuts about the 2013 Corolla: too many blind spots.
Headrests. Pillars. Can't raise seat high enough to compensate for the
decreased glass at the lower edge of the windows. When I contemplate a
lane change or turn I do multiple head swivels, especially in parking
lots where I KNOW drivers are only looking for empty spaces and
pedestrians are only looking at their phones.
It never occurred to me that modern cars have much less seeability (!)
than older ones; if I'd thought about it I might have chosen a different
car. Probably not, though -- they ALL seem to look like that and I chose
the Corolla for reliability.
Larger modern cars, especially SUV's, are far worse. Corolla was
probably a good choice, but all modern cars have worse visibility.
During the summer, when I regularly drive old cars (right now is a 1969 Impala), I can parallel park with ease. Up to the 90's, most cars still
had good visibility... not as much now.
On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 16:14:11 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote:
The Real Bev wrote:
Parking lots are the worst -- the bastards can come at you from all
sides and just because the path was clear two seconds ago doesn't mean >>>that it's clear NOW.
I try to make it a point to back into parking spots. I feel it's much
safer getting out.
I either back in or if in a parking lot find an empty slot where I can
pull through to the other side. The problem is when you drive a Toyota
Yaris you need xray vision to see through the two massive pickups flanking you. I very gingerly ease the nose out. That's better than having to pull most of the car out to see anything.
I won't go into finding the car in a sea of pickups and SUVs. Putting a
flag on the stubby little antenna wouldn't buy me anything.
The Real Bev wrote:
Parking lots are the worst -- the bastards can come at
you from all sides and just because the path was clear two seconds
ago doesn't mean that it's clear NOW.
I try to make it a point to back into parking spots. I feel it's much
safer getting out.
I have angle or drive-in parking where I live and almost every place I
go, and eve where it's parallel, at the curb, there's no one else
parking so I just drive in and drive out in Forward. But I'm still
pretty good at parallel. You don't have to follow all the instructions
if you make it so your front right corner just misses the left rear
corner of the car in front, and you're at the right angle. I think that
is it.
On 2023-08-04, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
Since I stopped sleeping on my belly, my neck has lots its ability to
turn 90^.
Odd. I've slept on my side or back all my life and my neck
turns 90 degrees.
Would stretching exercises put my neck back to normal?
Probably. Talk to your doctor about it.
My rental car in 2022 for 4 months, a Citroen, had a backup camera, and
I liked the camera, but it turned off the radio sound. And sometimes I
was in the middle of an important news story. So I'd have to wait to
backup.
Do they all turn off the radio sound? I suppose the add-ons don't but
I wanted the next car to have it as original equipment.
On Fri, 04 Aug 2023 03:28:17 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
My rental car in 2022 for 4 months, a Citroen, had a backup camera, and
I liked the camera, but it turned off the radio sound. And sometimes I
was in the middle of an important news story. So I'd have to wait to >>backup.
Do they all turn off the radio sound? I suppose the add-ons don't but
I wanted the next car to have it as original equipment.
My 2017 Tacoma doesn't do anything to the audio level when I back up, but my >2016 Sorento has an option (in the Settings, of course) to lower the audio level
when backing up, or to do nothing at all. There's no option to turn the sound >off completely.
I don't know what the view of that camera is, but new ones are far
better. My 2023 is better than my 2018 that was better than my 2013.
You do know why cameras were mandated don't you? Quite a few people
backed over their kids playing behind the car was a big one.
Next time you are in the neighborhood you can drive my car and it will
change your mind.
On 8/3/23 21:18, Michael Trew wrote:
[snip]
In Ohio, they place out 5 cones, and you start with the front bumper
at the first cone. Four of the cones are arranged in a rectangle, and
the fifth one is ahead of them in the center. When you pull into the
traffic cone rectangle, the instructor advises you to pull to the left
or right, then you stop with your rear bumper at the front cone, and
back through to the beginning. I guess this simulates parallel parking.
Then, you need to learn to park between cars.
They're not the same as traffic cones.
Wally J wrote:______________
A teen failed her driving test and the instructor wrote that she
failed to check her blind spot when making a right turn at an
intersection with a green light when the car crossed the bike lane to
the right.
On my car, there is no blind spot.
I set the mirrors so that I can see any vehicle next to me.
From behind the car, to behind the c pillar and up to the b pillar.
The car only leaves the mirrors when it crosses the b pillar.
And then I look (when turning right) into the passenger window.
Where is this blind spot the instructor is talking about?Of course the blind spot is on the right rear and you're supposed to
And how do you properly cross a bike land when making a right turn?
turn your head to look. In reality I adjust both my mirrors to be in
my blind spot rather than the side of the car and move my head to see
the side of the car for perspective in the mirror. Since I started
riding a motorcycle five years ago I've made it a habit to turn my head again and actually look when changing lanes to the right. Having said
all that I don't see how or why you would look in the blind spot when crossing over a bike lane unless you're going real slow or are stopped.
If you're moving at normal speeds you can see any bike you're
approaching and cross over without any chance of one coming up behind
you.
I took my first driver test in downtown Washington DC driving my
father's 1967 Cadillac Sedan DeVille. That beast was nearly 20 feet
long and hard to maneuver in the crowded and narrow streets of the
city. It also was old enough that it only had one side view mirror on
the driver's side. In those days the mirror was small and didn't stick
out a foot like they do now. You had to turn your head in both
directions when changing lanes because the one mirror was mostly
useless.
A teen failed her driving test and the instructor wrote that she failed to check her blind spot when making a right turn at an intersection with a green light when the car crossed the bike lane to the right.__________
On my car, there is no blind spot.
I set the mirrors so that I can see any vehicle next to me.
From behind the car, to behind the c pillar and up to the b pillar.
The car only leaves the mirrors when it crosses the b pillar.
And then I look (when turning right) into the passenger window.
Where is this blind spot the instructor is talking about?
And how do you properly cross a bike land when making a right turn?
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