• Re: water in gas tank

    From Woozy Song@21:1/5 to Bill Powell on Mon Mar 31 19:45:13 2025
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    Bill Powell wrote:
    My kid dumped a jug of water into the gas tank thinking it was gas.
    I disconnected the fuel filler hose and used the opening on the tank to
    pump  everything out where the last gallon was 90% water & about 10% gas.

    Since I've never done this before, what's a good way to proceed?
    Should I replace the fuel filter? What does water do to a fuel filter?

    Now that the fuel tank is completely dry, should I run the engine with the water that must still be in the lines?

    Should I run only one gallon at first - and then when empty, add the rest
    of the 18 gallons?

    How do you approach this situation after pumping the fuel tank dry?

    One of those bush survival TV shows said put a litre of methylated
    spirits (denatured alcohol) in the tank, which blends with the water.
    Never tried it myself, sounds a little dodgy.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Bill Powell on Mon Mar 31 00:32:20 2025
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    On 3/31/2025 12:15 AM, Bill Powell wrote:
    My kid dumped a jug of water into the gas tank thinking it was gas.
    I disconnected the fuel filler hose and used the opening on the tank to pump  everything out where the last gallon was 90% water & about 10% gas.

    Since I've never done this before, what's a good way to proceed?
    Should I replace the fuel filter? What does water do to a fuel filter?

    Now that the fuel tank is completely dry, should I run the engine with the water that must still be in the lines?

    Should I run only one gallon at first - and then when empty, add the rest
    of the 18 gallons?

    How do you approach this situation after pumping the fuel tank dry?


    Water can clog a fuel filter.

    I would disconnect the fuel line at the engine carb/injectors and purge
    the lines.

    Are you sure the tank is dry? In some, the pump is sitting in a sump of
    sorts and water can be in there, this purging the lines.

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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Woozy Song on Mon Mar 31 06:51:18 2025
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    On 3/31/2025 6:45 AM, Woozy Song wrote:
    Bill Powell wrote:
    My kid dumped a jug of water into the gas tank thinking it was gas.
    I disconnected the fuel filler hose and used the opening on the tank to
    pump  everything out where the last gallon was 90% water & about 10% gas.

    Since I've never done this before, what's a good way to proceed?
    Should I replace the fuel filter? What does water do to a fuel filter?

    Now that the fuel tank is completely dry, should I run the engine with
    the
    water that must still be in the lines?

    Should I run only one gallon at first - and then when empty, add the rest
    of the 18 gallons?

    How do you approach this situation after pumping the fuel tank dry?

    One of those bush survival TV shows said put a litre of methylated
    spirits (denatured alcohol) in the tank, which blends with the water.
    Never tried it myself, sounds a little dodgy.

    Not dodgy at all , alcohol will blend with the water and while it
    won't burn well , it will burn well enough .
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    Snag
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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to suzyw0ng@outlook.com on Mon Mar 31 11:29:42 2025
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    Woozy Song <suzyw0ng@outlook.com> wrote:
    One of those bush survival TV shows said put a litre of methylated
    spirits (denatured alcohol) in the tank, which blends with the water.
    Never tried it myself, sounds a little dodgy.

    Yes, this works very well if you have small amounts of water in the gas, not
    so well if you have a whole lot of water in the gas.

    These days it's superfluous, though, since we have ethanol in the gasoline already and this will get water into solution. Unfortunately the original poster probably has gasohol that is already saturated with water, so the
    best thing to do is pump as much out as possible and then refill with clean gasoline, and hope the ethanol in the clean gasoline gets as much as possible of the water into solution.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Roger Rhino@21:1/5 to Woozy Song on Mon Mar 31 06:34:12 2025
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    Woozy Song wrote:
    Bill Powell wrote:
    My kid dumped a jug of water into the gas tank thinking it was gas.
    I disconnected the fuel filler hose and used the opening on the tank to pump  everything out where the last gallon was 90% water & about 10% gas.

    Since I've never done this before, what's a good way to proceed?
    Should I replace the fuel filter? What does water do to a fuel filter?

    Now that the fuel tank is completely dry, should I run the engine with the water that must still be in the lines?

    Should I run only one gallon at first - and then when empty, add the rest of the 18 gallons?

    How do you approach this situation after pumping the fuel tank dry?

    One of those bush survival TV shows said put a litre of methylated
    spirits (denatured alcohol) in the tank, which blends with the water.
    Never tried it myself, sounds a little dodgy.

    No, it's standard practice. There are fuel additives such as Heet and
    Ban-Ice that are composed of methanol, for exactly that purpose. If your
    area gets below-freezing temps, it's a good idea to add some to your gas
    at least every fall to dry out the tank and fuel lines of water and ice.
    A liter sounds a bit much. The additive label tells you how much to use
    for how much gas.

    If your gas contains ethanol, that may also accomplish the same purpose.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Mon Mar 31 12:05:25 2025
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    On 3/31/2025 11:29 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    Woozy Song <suzyw0ng@outlook.com> wrote:
    One of those bush survival TV shows said put a litre of methylated
    spirits (denatured alcohol) in the tank, which blends with the water.
    Never tried it myself, sounds a little dodgy.

    Yes, this works very well if you have small amounts of water in the gas, not so well if you have a whole lot of water in the gas.

    These days it's superfluous, though, since we have ethanol in the gasoline already and this will get water into solution. Unfortunately the original poster probably has gasohol that is already saturated with water, so the
    best thing to do is pump as much out as possible and then refill with clean gasoline, and hope the ethanol in the clean gasoline gets as much as possible of the water into solution.
    --scott


    I'd do a bit of both. Put in some alcohol and just a few gallons of
    clean gas. They will help purge an residual. Once you are sure it is
    running OK, then fill it up.

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  • From Paul in Houston TX@21:1/5 to Bill Powell on Mon Mar 31 12:48:26 2025
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    Bill Powell wrote:
    My kid dumped a jug of water into the gas tank thinking it was gas.
    I disconnected the fuel filler hose and used the opening on the tank to
    pump  everything out where the last gallon was 90% water & about 10% gas.

    Since I've never done this before, what's a good way to proceed?
    Should I replace the fuel filter? What does water do to a fuel filter?

    Now that the fuel tank is completely dry, should I run the engine with the water that must still be in the lines?

    Should I run only one gallon at first - and then when empty, add the rest
    of the 18 gallons?

    How do you approach this situation after pumping the fuel tank dry?

    My opinion:
    Put gas in the tank... does not matter how much.
    Disconnect the fuel line at the injector manifold then use the tank fuel
    pump to pump a gallon or so of new gas through the lines.
    In the USA we use ethanol blended gasoline in highway cars so no point
    in adding more ethanol. Too much H2O will cause the water already
    suspended in the ethanol blend gas to drop out of suspension potentially causing more issues.

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  • From Ralph Mowery@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 31 13:43:24 2025
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    In article <0r5lujteuaa8p1a5a0opkb2guqvv4jeej5@4ax.com>, not@my.usa
    says...

    One of those bush survival TV shows said put a litre of methylated
    spirits (denatured alcohol) in the tank, which blends with the water.
    Never tried it myself, sounds a little dodgy.

    No, it's standard practice. There are fuel additives such as Heet and
    Ban-Ice that are composed of methanol, for exactly that purpose. If your
    area gets below-freezing temps, it's a good idea to add some to your gas
    at least every fall to dry out the tank and fuel lines of water and ice.
    A liter sounds a bit much. The additive label tells you how much to use
    for how much gas.

    If your gas contains ethanol, that may also accomplish the same purpose.



    The water will mix with the ethanol and settle out. Mix in some Ethanol
    Shield to blend the water/ethanol back into the gas so it will burn.

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to The Real Bev on Wed Apr 2 15:40:37 2025
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    On 4/2/2025 1:07 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 3/31/25 4:45 AM, Woozy Song wrote:
    Bill Powell wrote:
    My kid dumped a jug of water into the gas tank thinking
    it was gas.
    I disconnected the fuel filler hose and used the opening
    on the tank to
    pump  everything out where the last gallon was 90% water
    & about 10% gas.

    Since I've never done this before, what's a good way to
    proceed?
    Should I replace the fuel filter? What does water do to a
    fuel filter?

    Now that the fuel tank is completely dry, should I run
    the engine with the
    water that must still be in the lines?

    Should I run only one gallon at first - and then when
    empty, add the rest
    of the 18 gallons?

    How do you approach this situation after pumping the fuel
    tank dry?

    One of those bush survival TV shows said put a litre of
    methylated
    spirits (denatured alcohol) in the tank, which blends with
    the water.
    Never tried it myself, sounds a little dodgy.

    Used to be standard.  I've done it.  I remember putting
    perhaps a gallon of the drained water/gas mixture in a glass
    bottle and taking it back to the gas station and screaming
    at the attendant.

    I don't remember how much denatured alcohol ("gas dryer") we
    used or how well it worked, but I know we drove that van
    across the country a couple of times afterward.  We still
    have it, in fact.  1960 Dodge van.


    Thank you so much!
    Seems like forever since I read one of your sigs.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Bill Powell@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 31 06:15:46 2025
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    My kid dumped a jug of water into the gas tank thinking it was gas.

    I disconnected the fuel filler hose and used the opening on the tank to
    pump everything out where the last gallon was 90% water & about 10% gas.

    Since I've never done this before, what's a good way to proceed?
    Should I replace the fuel filter? What does water do to a fuel filter?

    Now that the fuel tank is completely dry, should I run the engine with the water that must still be in the lines?

    Should I run only one gallon at first - and then when empty, add the rest
    of the 18 gallons?

    How do you approach this situation after pumping the fuel tank dry?

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to The Real Bev on Wed Apr 2 19:19:53 2025
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    On Wed, 2 Apr 2025 11:07:00 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:

    Used to be standard. I've done it. I remember putting perhaps a gallon
    of the drained water/gas mixture in a glass bottle and taking it back to
    the gas station and screaming at the attendant.

    I never found a problem but part of the pre-flight inspection on light
    planes was pulling a sample from a drain cock to make sure your Cessna
    wasn't flying on water.

    I had a '82 Yamaha Seca that had a graceful looking tank. The problem was
    all four corners were low spots that accumulated water and would
    eventually rust out.

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