Adjustable automotive battery cable clamps get that white stuff on them. >https://www.amazon.com/Connectors-LYCARESUN-Terminals-Connector-Disconnect/dp/B097Y6ZZGB
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Quick-Release-Disconnect-Car-Battery-Terminal-Positive-Negative-for-SAE-JIS-Type-A-Posts-Kit-1Pair/858991319
On my generator, I have removable clamps so that I can swap and recharge >batteries outside of the generator making all that noise & smell.
I just want to periodically soak the clamps (they're separate items) that I >bought from the auto parts store in the right chemical to remove the >corrosion.
What is that whiteish substance, chemically, anyway?
What chemical can I soak the adjustable clamps in that will remove it.
Adjustable automotive battery cable clamps get that white stuff on them. https://www.amazon.com/Connectors-LYCARESUN-Terminals-Connector-Disconnect/dp/B097Y6ZZGB
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Quick-Release-Disconnect-Car-Battery-Terminal-Positive-Negative-for-SAE-JIS-Type-A-Posts-Kit-1Pair/858991319
On my generator, I have removable clamps so that I can swap and recharge batteries outside of the generator making all that noise & smell.
I just want to periodically soak the clamps (they're separate items)
that I bought from the auto parts store in the right chemical to remove
the corrosion.
What is that whiteish substance, chemically, anyway?
What chemical can I soak the adjustable clamps in that will remove it.
YOu should definitely get a set of felt washers that go under battery
clamps, one red for the positive terminal and one green for the
negative. They are soaked in some pair of chemicals that prevents the
white stuff in the first place.
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
YOu should definitely get a set of felt washers that go under battery
clamps, one red for the positive terminal and one green for the
negative. They are soaked in some pair of chemicals that prevents the
white stuff in the first place.
What chemical is that?
an anti-oxidant, like the NOX paper piston rings come in.
What is that whiteish substance, chemically, anyway?
What is that whiteish substance, chemically, anyway?
Lead II sulfate.
YOu should definitely get a set of felt washers that go under battery
clamps, one red for the positive terminal and one green for the
negative.
On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 10:39:53 AM, micky wrote:
YOu should definitely get a set of felt washers that go under battery
clamps, one red for the positive terminal and one green for the
negative.
Those felt washers are for a different purpose than for corrosion.
For corrosion protection, almost any grease on your shelf will work, some >better than others under various cold/hot temperature conditions.
Even K-Y Jelly will work but put the grease on AFTER you tighten the >connections because all but the graphite greases are non conductors.
In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 3 Feb 2022 16:45:11 -0800, Thomas <canope234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 10:39:53 AM, micky wrote:
YOu should definitely get a set of felt washers that go under battery
clamps, one red for the positive terminal and one green for the
negative.
Those felt washers are for a different purpose than for corrosion.
Not everyone agrees with that (and you don't say what that other
purpose would be).
Adjustable automotive battery cable clamps get that white stuff on them.
https://www.amazon.com/Battery-Terminal-Protector-Corrosion-Washers/dp/B085WCJCBZ
I ridiculed buying 10 pair, but here 10 pair are only %9.
In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 3 Feb 2022 10:48:53 -0700, Gronk <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Adjustable automotive battery cable clamps get that white stuff on them.
https://www.amazon.com/Connectors-LYCARESUN-Terminals-Connector-Disconnect/dp/B097Y6ZZGB
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Quick-Release-Disconnect-Car-Battery-Terminal-Positive-Negative-for-SAE-JIS-Type-A-Posts-Kit-1Pair/858991319
On my generator, I have removable clamps so that I can swap and recharge
batteries outside of the generator making all that noise& smell.
I just want to periodically soak the clamps (they're separate items) that I >> bought from the auto parts store in the right chemical to remove the
corrosion.
What is that whiteish substance, chemically, anyway?
It's some salt of sulfuric acid, I think.
What chemical can I soak the adjustable clamps in that will remove it.
Almost like Dean, I just use baking powder. (I usually don't have
baking soda.) I don't bother with the instructions I saw 50 years ago,
to iirc mix with water and brush it on. I just pour some on straight
from the box, then slowly pour on some water, slowly enough so that I
don't wash away the powder before it does its work. When it stops
bubbling, you're done.
The box of baking powder you can then put in the refrigerator to absorb smells. I think I went 25 years, maybe 40, on one box.
YOu should definitely get a set of felt washers that go under battery
clamps, one red for the positive terminal and one green for the
negative. They are soaked in some pair of chemicals that prevents the
white stuff in the first place.
On 2/3/2022 22:29, micky wrote:
https://www.amazon.com/Battery-Terminal-Protector-Corrosion-Washers/dp/B085WCJCBZ
I ridiculed buying 10 pair, but here 10 pair are only %9.
Ah, that won't do for me, I have 11 cars ;)
Then again, at best half of them have a battery.
Elswehere someone says "The felt washers when saturated with heavy oil
will wick oil onto the post and clamps to keep off the acid and oxygen
that cause the corrosion." but he doesn't say they come saturated with
oil, and they don't. They are dry or practically dry. All these ideas
with oil and vaseline are messy, imo, compared to the commercially-sold washers.
The magic ingredient is oily wax.
The wax would block the acid/liquid on top of the battery from reaching
the clamps.
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 04 Feb 2022 11:32:00 -0500, Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
On 2/3/2022 22:29, micky wrote:
https://www.amazon.com/Battery-Terminal-Protector-Corrosion-Washers/dp/B085WCJCBZ
I ridiculed buying 10 pair, but here 10 pair are only %9.
Ah, that won't do for me, I have 11 cars ;)
Then again, at best half of them have a battery.
If I had a bigger yard, and access from it to the street, I'd probably collect old cars like I collect old vcr's, old 12" crt tvs, and old PCs.
I miss having a bigger yard, but I'm probably better off without all
those cars.
On 2/4/2022 15:23, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 04 Feb 2022 11:32:00 -0500, Michael Trew
<michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
On 2/3/2022 22:29, micky wrote:
https://www.amazon.com/Battery-Terminal-Protector-Corrosion-Washers/dp/B085WCJCBZ
I ridiculed buying 10 pair, but here 10 pair are only %9.
Ah, that won't do for me, I have 11 cars ;)
Then again, at best half of them have a battery.
If I had a bigger yard, and access from it to the street, I'd probably
collect old cars like I collect old vcr's, old 12" crt tvs, and old PCs.
I miss having a bigger yard, but I'm probably better off without all
those cars.
I have a small city lot, and my entire back yard consists of 9 cars...
one is on-street parked at another property, and another is wedged into
a small storage unit. There isn't really room for anything else in my
back yard now. Would you like to buy a few cars? LOL
Latest edition: 1965 Galaxie: https://postimg.cc/WqF1WFjL
On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 7:29:46 PM, micky wrote:
Elswehere someone says "The felt washers when saturated with heavy oil
will wick oil onto the post and clamps to keep off the acid and oxygen
that cause the corrosion." but he doesn't say they come saturated with
oil, and they don't. They are dry or practically dry. All these ideas
with oil and vaseline are messy, imo, compared to the commercially-sold
washers.
When I took auto maintenance in the seventies, the teacher told us
(as I recall) the felt washers act as a barrier which is why they're dry.
He would keep a swatch of felt in the shop for when we worked on the >teachers' cars (which is how we learned how to do basic maintenance).
I could be wrong though, as they may serve some other unknown purpose.
We should probably search for references to figure what they do for sure.
I googled quickly but I don't know what thickness or "grade" felt to get.
https://www.etsy.com/market/felt_swatch
Do you?
It's possible that I just assumed they had some chemical poured on them,
that then dried, and they enocourage t he idea t hat there are two
chemicals because thy're different colors.
On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 10:39:53 AM, micky wrote:
YOu should definitely get a set of felt washers that go under battery
clamps, one red for the positive terminal and one green for the
negative.
It's possible that I just assumed they had some chemical poured on them,
that then dried, and they enocourage t he idea t hat there are two
chemicals because thy're different colors. If it was plain felt, they >wouldn't need different colors, but it's the kind of marketing a lot of >places do and they never say there are chemicals involved.
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 4 Feb 2022 13:26:31 -0800, Thomas <canope234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 7:29:46 PM, micky wrote:
Elswehere someone says "The felt washers when saturated with heavy oil
will wick oil onto the post and clamps to keep off the acid and oxygen
that cause the corrosion." but he doesn't say they come saturated with
oil, and they don't. They are dry or practically dry. All these ideas
with oil and vaseline are messy, imo, compared to the commercially-sold
washers.
When I took auto maintenance in the seventies, the teacher told us
(as I recall) the felt washers act as a barrier which is why they're dry.
He would keep a swatch of felt in the shop for when we worked on the
teachers' cars (which is how we learned how to do basic maintenance).
I could be wrong though, as they may serve some other unknown purpose.
We should probably search for references to figure what they do for sure.
I googled quickly but I don't know what thickness or "grade" felt to get.
https://www.etsy.com/market/felt_swatch
Do you?
It's possible that I just assumed they had some chemical poured on them,
that then dried, and they enocourage t he idea t hat there are two
chemicals because thy're different colors. If it was plain felt, they wouldn't need different colors, but it's the kind of marketing a lot of places do and they never say there are chemicals involved.
Still, I've found most manufacturers do go to some trouble to make a
good product, and even if they only made a solution of baking soda,
soaked them in that and dried them, i wold think that woudl be better
than plain felt. Next time I get a new pair, I will taste them, see if
I can tell what might be on them, and if there are 2 different things .
On Saturday, February 5, 2022 at 7:00:23 AM, micky wrote:
It's possible that I just assumed they had some chemical poured on them,
that then dried, and they enocourage t he idea t hat there are two
chemicals because thy're different colors.
You can guess all you want because everyone on the Internet is guessing.
Most of the guesses I found were self contradictory and so worthless.
My guess is whenever they claim it's a "special" oil "Invented in 1914", >they're expecting people to be stupid enough to believe that junk.
Nobody is that stupid.
(Well, most people are that stupid, but I'm not that stupid.)
I'm sure there's /something/ on them though, as otherwise they'd be a felt >sponge soaking up and retaining not only water, but acid, but as for a >"special" oil, I suspect it's no different than any regular basic thin oil.
It's just an oil.
What you need is anything but water.
Take a piece of felt and soak it in any "special" oil in your kitchen.
Olive oil is what I'd use.
Extra virgin is pretty special.
First cold pressed is the most special of them all.
Darn. Now I let out the secret of my super secret "special" oil. :->
On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 03:45:51 -0800, Thomas <canope234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, February 5, 2022 at 7:00:23 AM, micky wrote:
It's possible that I just assumed they had some chemical poured on them, >>> that then dried, and they enocourage t he idea t hat there are two
chemicals because thy're different colors.
You can guess all you want because everyone on the Internet is guessing.
Most of the guesses I found were self contradictory and so worthless.
My guess is whenever they claim it's a "special" oil "Invented in 1914",
they're expecting people to be stupid enough to believe that junk.
Nobody is that stupid.
(Well, most people are that stupid, but I'm not that stupid.)
I'm sure there's /something/ on them though, as otherwise they'd be a felt >> sponge soaking up and retaining not only water, but acid, but as for a
"special" oil, I suspect it's no different than any regular basic thin oil. >>
It's just an oil.
What you need is anything but water.
Take a piece of felt and soak it in any "special" oil in your kitchen.
Olive oil is what I'd use.
Extra virgin is pretty special.
First cold pressed is the most special of them all.
Darn. Now I let out the secret of my super secret "special" oil. :->
I thought you might have been talking about Marvel Mystery Oil, but that stuff didn't come about until 1923, 9 years after your 1914 reference.
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
It's possible that I just assumed they had some chemical poured on them, >>that then dried, and they enocourage t he idea t hat there are two >>chemicals because thy're different colors. If it was plain felt, they >>wouldn't need different colors, but it's the kind of marketing a lot of >>places do and they never say there are chemicals involved.
So ask for the MSDS when you buy them. If there's no MSDS on them, they
are likely pretty inert. If there is an MSDS, it will tell vaguely what
they are impregnated with.
I haven't used the felt pads in years, though, just the spray. The spray seems to work very well.
On 02/05/2022 05:52 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
It's possible that I just assumed they had some chemical poured on them, >>> that then dried, and they enocourage t he idea t hat there are two
chemicals because thy're different colors. If it was plain felt, they
wouldn't need different colors, but it's the kind of marketing a lot of
places do and they never say there are chemicals involved.
So ask for the MSDS when you buy them. If there's no MSDS on them, they
are likely pretty inert. If there is an MSDS, it will tell vaguely what
they are impregnated with.
I haven't used the felt pads in years, though, just the spray. The spray >> seems to work very well.
I used them once. No difference at all. I think I just washed the
battery off with water, although I seem to remember someone saying that
Coke would do a better job.
I once used a glass Coke bottle like a hammer to bash one of the cables
on tighter, but I don't think that was what was meant.
Looked at three MSDS all say 'oils'.
YOu should definitely get a set of felt washers that go under battery
clamps, one red for the positive terminal and one green for the
negative.
Certainly, and be sure to not reverse the felt washers by putting the
green on the positive and the red on the negative. Doing so will
certainly result in anti-depolarionization of accumulated non-ferrous
lead isotopes.
I seem to remember someone saying that
Coke would do a better job.
On Saturday, February 5, 2022 at 7:45:33 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
I seem to remember someone saying that
Coke would do a better job.
I googled until my fingers hurt on why coke (which is acidic, I believe) >would work given baking soda is basic and that is known to work well.
Only one article made a claim as to how the soda worked, and they said the >bubbles are a mechanical boost to cleaning the crud off of tight spaces.
Given the crud is a result of acid, I don't see that it would be removed
with an acid so if it works at all, I would tend to guess that's how.
So I think it's mechanical more than chemical, if it works at all.
But if you find out something chemical related, let me know.
On 2/5/2022 10:45 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
On 02/05/2022 05:52 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
It's possible that I just assumed they had some chemical poured on them, >>>> that then dried, and they enocourage t he idea t hat there are two
chemicals because thy're different colors. If it was plain felt, they >>>> wouldn't need different colors, but it's the kind of marketing a lot of >>>> places do and they never say there are chemicals involved.
So ask for the MSDS when you buy them. If there's no MSDS on them, they >>> are likely pretty inert. If there is an MSDS, it will tell vaguely what >>> they are impregnated with.
I haven't used the felt pads in years, though, just the spray. The spray >>> seems to work very well.
I used them once. No difference at all. I think I just washed the
battery off with water, although I seem to remember someone saying that
Coke would do a better job.
I once used a glass Coke bottle like a hammer to bash one of the cables
on tighter, but I don't think that was what was meant.
Women getting wild with bottles scares me.
On 02/05/2022 08:20 PM, Ken Olson wrote:
On 2/5/2022 10:45 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
On 02/05/2022 05:52 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
It's possible that I just assumed they had some chemical poured on
them,
that then dried, and they enocourage t he idea t hat there are two
chemicals because thy're different colors. If it was plain felt, they >>>>> wouldn't need different colors, but it's the kind of marketing a
lot of
places do and they never say there are chemicals involved.
So ask for the MSDS when you buy them. If there's no MSDS on them,
they
are likely pretty inert. If there is an MSDS, it will tell vaguely
what
they are impregnated with.
I haven't used the felt pads in years, though, just the spray. The
spray
seems to work very well.
I used them once. No difference at all. I think I just washed the
battery off with water, although I seem to remember someone saying that
Coke would do a better job.
I once used a glass Coke bottle like a hammer to bash one of the cables
on tighter, but I don't think that was what was meant.
Women getting wild with bottles scares me.
As long as you behave nicely you probably have nothing to fear. Probably.
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