• NASCAR Noose Incident

    From Heron@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 23 09:48:25 2020
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    Regarding the noose incident, anyone want to bet that
    any and all 'investigations' will prove 'inconclusive'
    and no one will be punished and nothing will happen.

    This is NASCAR after all, despite pretense otherwise,
    its entire history has always been southern redneck.

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  • From tin man@21:1/5 to Heron on Tue Jun 23 08:44:41 2020
    On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 10:48:31 AM UTC-4, Heron wrote:
    Regarding the noose incident, anyone want to bet that
    any and all 'investigations' will prove 'inconclusive'
    and no one will be punished and nothing will happen.

    This is NASCAR after all, despite pretense otherwise,
    its entire history has always been southern redneck.

    Tell that to Kyle Larson, I imagine he has a different opinion than you.

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  • From Dex@21:1/5 to Heron on Tue Jun 23 18:37:31 2020
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    On 23/06/2020 15:48, Heron wrote:
    Regarding the noose incident, anyone want to bet that
    any and all 'investigations' will prove 'inconclusive'
    and no one will be punished and nothing will happen.

    This is NASCAR after all, despite pretense otherwise,
    its entire history has always been southern redneck.

    You'd think the garage would be full of CCTV cameras for security, catch
    any competitors seeking in to take a peek.

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  • From Heron@21:1/5 to Heron on Tue Jun 23 16:55:07 2020
    XPost: rec.autos.sport.f1

    On 6/23/2020 9:48 AM, Heron wrote:
    Regarding the noose incident, anyone want to bet that
    any and all 'investigations' will prove 'inconclusive'
    and no one will be punished and nothing will happen.

    This is NASCAR after all, despite pretense otherwise,
    its entire history has always been southern redneck.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8453051/FBI-says-noose-Bubba-Wallaces-garage-misunderstanding.html
    Well that didn't take long. Yet another display of my
    usual prescience, it hardly required clairvoyance tho.

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  • From Heron@21:1/5 to Heron on Wed Jun 24 07:07:29 2020
    XPost: rec.autos.sport.f1

    On 6/24/2020 6:27 AM, Heron wrote:
    On 6/23/2020 4:55 PM, Heron wrote:
    On 6/23/2020 9:48 AM, Heron wrote:
    Regarding the noose incident, anyone want to bet that
    any and all 'investigations' will prove 'inconclusive'
    and no one will be punished and nothing will happen.

    This is NASCAR after all, despite pretense otherwise,
    its entire history has always been southern redneck.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8453051/FBI-says-noose-Bubba-Wallaces-garage-misunderstanding.html

    Well that didn't take long. Yet another display of my
    usual prescience, it hardly required clairvoyance tho.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8454261/Bubba-Wallace-insists-rope-NASCAR-garage-straight-noose.html


    They had to do an investigation for a door pull? Who but
    the know nothings would believe such unadulterated bullshit?
    Who uses a noose for a door pull? None of the other garages
    obviously. Maybe Wendell Scott could share some light.

    https://racer.com/2020/06/23/nascar-continuing-its-own-investigation-into-noose-incident/

    Even NASCAR realizes that this is a PR disaster and none
    but the dumbest these days buy 'there's simply nothing to
    see here, everyone just move along'. Regardless of where
    it's found, everyone understands the symbol of a noose
    and who it is directed at, particularly in a southern US
    setting. Great job there FBI for getting to the crux of
    the matter.

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  • From Heron@21:1/5 to max headroom on Thu Jun 25 06:45:09 2020
    XPost: rec.autos.sport.f1

    On 6/25/2020 1:10 AM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd154o$j9q$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:

    On 6/24/2020 7:51 PM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd0dte$sm2$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 3:29 PM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd0chs$9i3$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 1:22 PM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rcvqsp$1tbj$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 9:15 AM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rcvfm2$2ag$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 6:27 AM, Heron wrote:
    On 6/23/2020 4:55 PM, Heron wrote:
    On 6/23/2020 9:48 AM, Heron wrote:

    Regarding the noose incident, anyone want to bet that >>>>>>>>>>>>> any and all 'investigations' will prove 'inconclusive' >>>>>>>>>>>>> and no one will be punished and nothing will happen.

    This is NASCAR after all, despite pretense otherwise, >>>>>>>>>>>>> its entire history has always been southern redneck.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8453051/FBI-says-noose-Bubba-Wallaces-garage-misunderstanding.html

    Well that didn't take long. Yet another display of my
    usual prescience, it hardly required clairvoyance tho.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8454261/Bubba-Wallace-insists-rope-NASCAR-garage-straight-noose.html

    They had to do an investigation for a door pull? Who but >>>>>>>>>>> the know nothings would believe such unadulterated bullshit? >>>>>>>>>>> Who uses a noose for a door pull? None of the other garages >>>>>>>>>>> obviously. Maybe Wendell Scott could share some light.

    https://racer.com/2020/06/23/nascar-continuing-its-own-investigation-into-noose-incident/

    Even NASCAR realizes that this is a PR disaster and none
    but the dumbest these days buy 'there's simply nothing to
    see here, everyone just move along'. Regardless of where
    it's found, everyone understands the symbol of a noose
    and who it is directed at, particularly in a southern US
    setting. Great job there FBI for getting to the crux of
    the matter.

    So the photos from the past of that door pull are irrelevant, huh?

    You also quite undeniably have a reading comprehension issue.

    https://racingnews.co/2020/06/23/fbi-concludes-investigation-of-noose-at-nascar-race-in-talladega-its-been-there-since-october-2019/

    You can't comprehend what you don't read. The link above leads to more links that shows a
    similar door pull in another shop bay.

    Your empty, unsupported claim is as meaningless as are you.
    Too bad no one here can support your claims risible claims
    nor provide a convincing, cogent (or otherwise) argument
    about the obvious racist meaning and threat of the noose.

    There was no noose. There was a pull cord tied with a loop, as the photos clearly show.

    You should click the link and stop embarrassing yourself by admitting your mind is made up and
    facts don't matter to you.

    And yet you continue to not so much as provide a single supported fact.

    The link provided supports the facts.

    If that bothers you, that's a bonus.

    You've already admitted that it did not, and I quote:
    "The link above leads to more links that shows a similar
    door pull in another shop bay", but you haven't and won't
    provide those links because they're imaginary and you're
    delusional, at best.

    Ok, I didn't realize how inept you are.

    I don't have the least problem proving my case with actual
    support. You haven't and can't.

    When you go to the Racing News webpage via the link above, look for the link pic.twitter.com/5CUCnOc0mp.

    What's 'Racing News'? Is that a website? Still obviously too
    incompetent to post a link I see.

    If that's not enough, take a gander at https://nypost.com/2020/06/24/nascar-videos-show-multiple-nooses-before-bubba-wallace-incident/

    The New York Post? You might as well have referenced the Washington
    Examiner, The American Spectator, Fox News, Newsmax, Brietbart ...
    Each right wing site has as nearly as much credibility as you as a
    source of facts. In any case the pic on that site clearly depicts
    a noose anyway - the link you simply couldn't figure out how to post
    https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/06/Noose-10.jpg

    Want more? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN0ad_nS2Hw

    I'm not watching a 26 minute video. If you knew how to link
    (or had any credibility whatsoever), you'd have referenced
    the pertinent time period, of which there are multiple ways
    but you're even much too stupid a liar to do that. Even the
    FBI called it a noose. Door pulls are fashioned as loops,
    not in the style of a noose, a quite distinct difference.

    So in addition to being a clown, you're also clearly a liar.

    I don't know if you're obstinately stupid or stupidly obstinate.

    I'm already quite certain, and clearly proved, what you are,
    and there's nothing remotely positive to report.

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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 25 11:40:38 2020
    In news:rd2dnf$b94$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:

    On 6/25/2020 8:39 AM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd22o6$lo9$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed: >>> On 6/25/2020 1:10 AM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd154o$j9q$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 7:51 PM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd0dte$sm2$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 3:29 PM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd0chs$9i3$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 1:22 PM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rcvqsp$1tbj$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 9:15 AM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rcvfm2$2ag$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 6:27 AM, Heron wrote:
    On 6/23/2020 4:55 PM, Heron wrote:
    On 6/23/2020 9:48 AM, Heron wrote:

    Regarding the noose incident, anyone want to bet that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any and all 'investigations' will prove 'inconclusive' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and no one will be punished and nothing will happen.

    This is NASCAR after all, despite pretense otherwise, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its entire history has always been southern redneck.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8453051/FBI-says-noose-Bubba-Wallaces-garage-misunderstanding.html

    Well that didn't take long. Yet another display of my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usual prescience, it hardly required clairvoyance tho.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8454261/Bubba-Wallace-insists-rope-NASCAR-garage-straight-noose.html

    They had to do an investigation for a door pull? Who but >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the know nothings would believe such unadulterated bullshit? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who uses a noose for a door pull? None of the other garages >>>>>>>>>>>>>> obviously. Maybe Wendell Scott could share some light.

    https://racer.com/2020/06/23/nascar-continuing-its-own-investigation-into-noose-incident/

    Even NASCAR realizes that this is a PR disaster and none >>>>>>>>>>>>> but the dumbest these days buy 'there's simply nothing to >>>>>>>>>>>>> see here, everyone just move along'. Regardless of where >>>>>>>>>>>>> it's found, everyone understands the symbol of a noose >>>>>>>>>>>>> and who it is directed at, particularly in a southern US >>>>>>>>>>>>> setting. Great job there FBI for getting to the crux of >>>>>>>>>>>>> the matter.

    So the photos from the past of that door pull are irrelevant, huh?

    You also quite undeniably have a reading comprehension issue.

    https://racingnews.co/2020/06/23/fbi-concludes-investigation-of-noose-at-nascar-race-in-talladega-its-been-there-since-october-2019/

    You can't comprehend what you don't read. The link above leads to more links that shows a
    similar door pull in another shop bay.

    Your empty, unsupported claim is as meaningless as are you.
    Too bad no one here can support your claims risible claims
    nor provide a convincing, cogent (or otherwise) argument
    about the obvious racist meaning and threat of the noose.

    There was no noose. There was a pull cord tied with a loop, as the photos clearly show.

    You should click the link and stop embarrassing yourself by admitting your mind is made up
    and facts don't matter to you.

    And yet you continue to not so much as provide a single supported fact.

    The link provided supports the facts.

    If that bothers you, that's a bonus.

    You've already admitted that it did not, and I quote:
    "The link above leads to more links that shows a similar
    door pull in another shop bay", but you haven't and won't
    provide those links because they're imaginary and you're
    delusional, at best.

    Ok, I didn't realize how inept you are.

    I don't have the least problem proving my case with actual
    support. You haven't and can't.

    When you go to the Racing News webpage via the link above, look for the link
    pic.twitter.com/5CUCnOc0mp.

    What's 'Racing News'? Is that a website? Still obviously too
    incompetent to post a link I see.

    The link was posted. Here, I'll post it *again* so you can't keep pretending you don't see it--

    https://racingnews.co/2020/06/23/fbi-concludes-investigation-of-noose-at-nascar-race-in-talladega-its-been-there-since-october-2019/

    No news there. NO ONE has denied that the noose has been
    there for months....

    So we agree there's no story here.

    ... Eveyone knows what the noose represents
    and at whom it's directed. Any and all pretenses have been
    your own.

    And that link sheds no light whatsoever nor makes any claims
    regarding any additional nooses in the garage, so that TOO
    was a lie, wasn't it....

    No [?] key on your keyboard?

    But you conveniently ignored this--

    When you go to the Racing News webpage via the link above, look for the link
    pic.twitter.com/5CUCnOc0mp.

    ... If it were so simple, cut and dried
    that it was a known door pull why didn't anyone, including
    NASCAR or ANYONE else simply state that before calling in
    the FBI? Doesn't make sense does it.[sic]

    Social Justice Warriors got involved.

    If that's not enough, take a gander at
    https://nypost.com/2020/06/24/nascar-videos-show-multiple-nooses-before-bubba-wallace-incident/

    The New York Post? You might as well have referenced the Washington
    Examiner, The American Spectator, Fox News, Newsmax, Brietbart ...
    Each right wing site has as nearly as much credibility as you as a
    source of facts....

    Oh... you're a liberal.

    And you're a redneck, racist, race baiting, trump supporting, climate
    change and coronavirus denying (among other things no doubt), uneducated flat-earther. What a (non) shocking surprise. But one doesn't have to be
    a liberal to loathe stupid right wingers like yourself.

    Definite proof of your liberal bona fides: launch a slew of pejoratives against anyone who disagrees
    with the "correct" view.

    And here I thought you were just an annoying asshole. I should have known you are a SJW... all
    the signs are there.

    It's called intelligence married with a Liberal Arts education....

    That's how to create an annoying SJW asshole? So be it.

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  • From Heron@21:1/5 to max headroom on Thu Jun 25 14:42:21 2020
    On 6/25/2020 1:40 PM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd2dnf$b94$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:

    On 6/25/2020 8:39 AM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd22o6$lo9$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/25/2020 1:10 AM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd154o$j9q$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 7:51 PM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd0dte$sm2$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 3:29 PM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd0chs$9i3$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 1:22 PM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rcvqsp$1tbj$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 9:15 AM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rcvfm2$2ag$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 6:27 AM, Heron wrote:
    On 6/23/2020 4:55 PM, Heron wrote:
    On 6/23/2020 9:48 AM, Heron wrote:

    Regarding the noose incident, anyone want to bet that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any and all 'investigations' will prove 'inconclusive' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and no one will be punished and nothing will happen.

    This is NASCAR after all, despite pretense otherwise, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its entire history has always been southern redneck.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8453051/FBI-says-noose-Bubba-Wallaces-garage-misunderstanding.html

    Well that didn't take long. Yet another display of my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usual prescience, it hardly required clairvoyance tho.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8454261/Bubba-Wallace-insists-rope-NASCAR-garage-straight-noose.html

    They had to do an investigation for a door pull? Who but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the know nothings would believe such unadulterated bullshit? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who uses a noose for a door pull? None of the other garages >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obviously. Maybe Wendell Scott could share some light.

    https://racer.com/2020/06/23/nascar-continuing-its-own-investigation-into-noose-incident/

    Even NASCAR realizes that this is a PR disaster and none >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but the dumbest these days buy 'there's simply nothing to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> see here, everyone just move along'. Regardless of where >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's found, everyone understands the symbol of a noose >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and who it is directed at, particularly in a southern US >>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting. Great job there FBI for getting to the crux of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the matter.

    So the photos from the past of that door pull are irrelevant, huh?

    You also quite undeniably have a reading comprehension issue.

    https://racingnews.co/2020/06/23/fbi-concludes-investigation-of-noose-at-nascar-race-in-talladega-its-been-there-since-october-2019/

    You can't comprehend what you don't read. The link above leads to more links that shows a
    similar door pull in another shop bay.

    Your empty, unsupported claim is as meaningless as are you. >>>>>>>>>> Too bad no one here can support your claims risible claims >>>>>>>>>> nor provide a convincing, cogent (or otherwise) argument
    about the obvious racist meaning and threat of the noose.

    There was no noose. There was a pull cord tied with a loop, as the photos clearly show.

    You should click the link and stop embarrassing yourself by admitting your mind is made up
    and facts don't matter to you.

    And yet you continue to not so much as provide a single supported fact.

    The link provided supports the facts.

    If that bothers you, that's a bonus.

    You've already admitted that it did not, and I quote:
    "The link above leads to more links that shows a similar
    door pull in another shop bay", but you haven't and won't
    provide those links because they're imaginary and you're
    delusional, at best.

    Ok, I didn't realize how inept you are.

    I don't have the least problem proving my case with actual
    support. You haven't and can't.

    When you go to the Racing News webpage via the link above, look for the link
    pic.twitter.com/5CUCnOc0mp.

    What's 'Racing News'? Is that a website? Still obviously too
    incompetent to post a link I see.

    The link was posted. Here, I'll post it *again* so you can't keep pretending you don't see it--

    https://racingnews.co/2020/06/23/fbi-concludes-investigation-of-noose-at-nascar-race-in-talladega-its-been-there-since-october-2019/

    No news there. NO ONE has denied that the noose has been
    there for months....

    So we agree there's no story here.

    ... Eveyone knows what the noose represents
    and at whom it's directed. Any and all pretenses have been
    your own.

    And that link sheds no light whatsoever nor makes any claims
    regarding any additional nooses in the garage, so that TOO
    was a lie, wasn't it....

    No [?] key on your keyboard?

    But you conveniently ignored this--

    When you go to the Racing News webpage via the link above, look for the link
    pic.twitter.com/5CUCnOc0mp.

    ... If it were so simple, cut and dried
    that it was a known door pull why didn't anyone, including
    NASCAR or ANYONE else simply state that before calling in
    the FBI? Doesn't make sense does it.[sic]

    Social Justice Warriors got involved.

    If that's not enough, take a gander at
    https://nypost.com/2020/06/24/nascar-videos-show-multiple-nooses-before-bubba-wallace-incident/

    The New York Post? You might as well have referenced the Washington
    Examiner, The American Spectator, Fox News, Newsmax, Brietbart ...
    Each right wing site has as nearly as much credibility as you as a
    source of facts....

    Oh... you're a liberal.

    And you're a redneck, racist, race baiting, trump supporting, climate
    change and coronavirus denying (among other things no doubt), uneducated
    flat-earther. What a (non) shocking surprise. But one doesn't have to be
    a liberal to loathe stupid right wingers like yourself.

    Definite proof of your liberal bona fides: launch a slew of pejoratives against anyone who disagrees
    with the "correct" view.

    If it look like a duck, walks like a duck and quack likes
    a duck, what you've probably got there is a duck. So if
    the shoe fits, and it does, like a designer glove.
    And here I thought you were just an annoying asshole. I should have known you are a SJW... all
    the signs are there.

    It's called intelligence married with a Liberal Arts education....

    That's how to create an annoying SJW asshole? So be it.

    Wrong yet again. The fact of the matter is I'm an elderly,
    service connected, disabled Vietnam veteran who had always
    strongly opposed the war, but I was an involuntary conscript.
    That means draftee to a worthless illiterate like you.

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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 25 13:30:44 2020
    In news:rd2umu$oah$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:

    On 6/25/2020 1:40 PM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd2dnf$b94$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed: >>> On 6/25/2020 8:39 AM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd22o6$lo9$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/25/2020 1:10 AM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd154o$j9q$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 7:51 PM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd0dte$sm2$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 3:29 PM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd0chs$9i3$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 1:22 PM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rcvqsp$1tbj$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 9:15 AM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rcvfm2$2ag$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 6:27 AM, Heron wrote:
    On 6/23/2020 4:55 PM, Heron wrote:
    On 6/23/2020 9:48 AM, Heron wrote:

    Regarding the noose incident, anyone want to bet that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any and all 'investigations' will prove 'inconclusive' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and no one will be punished and nothing will happen.

    This is NASCAR after all, despite pretense otherwise, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its entire history has always been southern redneck.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8453051/FBI-says-noose-Bubba-Wallaces-garage-misunderstanding.html

    Well that didn't take long. Yet another display of my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usual prescience, it hardly required clairvoyance tho.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8454261/Bubba-Wallace-insists-rope-NASCAR-garage-straight-noose.html

    They had to do an investigation for a door pull? Who but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the know nothings would believe such unadulterated bullshit? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who uses a noose for a door pull? None of the other garages >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obviously. Maybe Wendell Scott could share some light.

    https://racer.com/2020/06/23/nascar-continuing-its-own-investigation-into-noose-incident/

    Even NASCAR realizes that this is a PR disaster and none >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but the dumbest these days buy 'there's simply nothing to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see here, everyone just move along'. Regardless of where >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's found, everyone understands the symbol of a noose >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and who it is directed at, particularly in a southern US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting. Great job there FBI for getting to the crux of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the matter.

    So the photos from the past of that door pull are irrelevant, huh?

    You also quite undeniably have a reading comprehension issue.

    https://racingnews.co/2020/06/23/fbi-concludes-investigation-of-noose-at-nascar-race-in-talladega-its-been-there-since-october-2019/

    You can't comprehend what you don't read. The link above leads to more links that
    shows a similar door pull in another shop bay.

    Your empty, unsupported claim is as meaningless as are you. >>>>>>>>>>> Too bad no one here can support your claims risible claims >>>>>>>>>>> nor provide a convincing, cogent (or otherwise) argument >>>>>>>>>>> about the obvious racist meaning and threat of the noose.

    There was no noose. There was a pull cord tied with a loop, as the photos clearly show.

    You should click the link and stop embarrassing yourself by admitting your mind is made
    up and facts don't matter to you.

    And yet you continue to not so much as provide a single supported fact.

    The link provided supports the facts.

    If that bothers you, that's a bonus.

    You've already admitted that it did not, and I quote:
    "The link above leads to more links that shows a similar
    door pull in another shop bay", but you haven't and won't
    provide those links because they're imaginary and you're
    delusional, at best.

    Ok, I didn't realize how inept you are.

    I don't have the least problem proving my case with actual
    support. You haven't and can't.

    When you go to the Racing News webpage via the link above, look for the link
    pic.twitter.com/5CUCnOc0mp.

    What's 'Racing News'? Is that a website? Still obviously too
    incompetent to post a link I see.

    The link was posted. Here, I'll post it *again* so you can't keep pretending you don't see it--

    https://racingnews.co/2020/06/23/fbi-concludes-investigation-of-noose-at-nascar-race-in-talladega-its-been-there-since-october-2019/

    No news there. NO ONE has denied that the noose has been
    there for months....

    So we agree there's no story here.

    ... Eveyone knows what the noose represents
    and at whom it's directed. Any and all pretenses have been
    your own.

    And that link sheds no light whatsoever nor makes any claims
    regarding any additional nooses in the garage, so that TOO
    was a lie, wasn't it....

    No [?] key on your keyboard?

    But you conveniently ignored this--

    When you go to the Racing News webpage via the link above, look for the link
    pic.twitter.com/5CUCnOc0mp.

    ... If it were so simple, cut and dried
    that it was a known door pull why didn't anyone, including
    NASCAR or ANYONE else simply state that before calling in
    the FBI? Doesn't make sense does it.[sic]

    Social Justice Warriors got involved.

    If that's not enough, take a gander at
    https://nypost.com/2020/06/24/nascar-videos-show-multiple-nooses-before-bubba-wallace-incident/

    The New York Post? You might as well have referenced the Washington
    Examiner, The American Spectator, Fox News, Newsmax, Brietbart ...
    Each right wing site has as nearly as much credibility as you as a
    source of facts....

    Oh... you're a liberal.

    And you're a redneck, racist, race baiting, trump supporting, climate
    change and coronavirus denying (among other things no doubt), uneducated >>> flat-earther. What a (non) shocking surprise. But one doesn't have to be >>> a liberal to loathe stupid right wingers like yourself.

    Definite proof of your liberal bona fides: launch a slew of pejoratives against anyone who
    disagrees with the "correct" view.

    If it look like a duck, walks like a duck and quack likes
    a duck, what you've probably got there is a duck. So if
    the shoe fits, and it does, like a designer glove.

    To the child with a hammer, the whole world looks like a nail. To the butt-hurt liberal, anyone who
    disagrees is a racist, Trump-loving, climate change and coronavirus denying ignorant fool,
    regardless of facts. His mind is made up and it's pointless to attempt to educate him.

    But we agree that there's no story here-- the "noose" was extant last year, well before the stall
    was assigned to the 43 team.

    And here I thought you were just an annoying asshole. I should have known you are a SJW... all
    the signs are there.

    It's called intelligence married with a Liberal Arts education....

    That's how to create an annoying SJW asshole? So be it.

    Wrong yet again. The fact of the matter is I'm an elderly,
    service connected, disabled Vietnam veteran who had always
    strongly opposed the war, but I was an involuntary conscript.
    That means draftee to a worthless illiterate like you.

    You're still an annoying SJW asshole, regardless of age--

    "If it look[sic] like a duck, walks like a duck and quack[sic] likes a duck, what you've probably
    got there is a duck. So if the shoe fits, and it does, like a designer glove."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Heron@21:1/5 to max headroom on Thu Jun 25 15:45:51 2020
    On 6/25/2020 3:30 PM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd2umu$oah$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:

    On 6/25/2020 1:40 PM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd2dnf$b94$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/25/2020 8:39 AM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd22o6$lo9$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/25/2020 1:10 AM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd154o$j9q$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 7:51 PM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd0dte$sm2$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 3:29 PM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd0chs$9i3$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 1:22 PM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rcvqsp$1tbj$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 9:15 AM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rcvfm2$2ag$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 6:27 AM, Heron wrote:
    On 6/23/2020 4:55 PM, Heron wrote:
    On 6/23/2020 9:48 AM, Heron wrote:

    Regarding the noose incident, anyone want to bet that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any and all 'investigations' will prove 'inconclusive' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and no one will be punished and nothing will happen.

    This is NASCAR after all, despite pretense otherwise, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its entire history has always been southern redneck.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8453051/FBI-says-noose-Bubba-Wallaces-garage-misunderstanding.html

    Well that didn't take long. Yet another display of my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usual prescience, it hardly required clairvoyance tho.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8454261/Bubba-Wallace-insists-rope-NASCAR-garage-straight-noose.html

    They had to do an investigation for a door pull? Who but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the know nothings would believe such unadulterated bullshit? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who uses a noose for a door pull? None of the other garages >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obviously. Maybe Wendell Scott could share some light.

    https://racer.com/2020/06/23/nascar-continuing-its-own-investigation-into-noose-incident/

    Even NASCAR realizes that this is a PR disaster and none >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but the dumbest these days buy 'there's simply nothing to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see here, everyone just move along'. Regardless of where >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's found, everyone understands the symbol of a noose >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and who it is directed at, particularly in a southern US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting. Great job there FBI for getting to the crux of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the matter.

    So the photos from the past of that door pull are irrelevant, huh?

    You also quite undeniably have a reading comprehension issue.

    https://racingnews.co/2020/06/23/fbi-concludes-investigation-of-noose-at-nascar-race-in-talladega-its-been-there-since-october-2019/

    You can't comprehend what you don't read. The link above leads to more links that
    shows a similar door pull in another shop bay.

    Your empty, unsupported claim is as meaningless as are you. >>>>>>>>>>>> Too bad no one here can support your claims risible claims >>>>>>>>>>>> nor provide a convincing, cogent (or otherwise) argument >>>>>>>>>>>> about the obvious racist meaning and threat of the noose.

    There was no noose. There was a pull cord tied with a loop, as the photos clearly show.

    You should click the link and stop embarrassing yourself by admitting your mind is made
    up and facts don't matter to you.

    And yet you continue to not so much as provide a single supported fact.

    The link provided supports the facts.

    If that bothers you, that's a bonus.

    You've already admitted that it did not, and I quote:
    "The link above leads to more links that shows a similar
    door pull in another shop bay", but you haven't and won't
    provide those links because they're imaginary and you're
    delusional, at best.

    Ok, I didn't realize how inept you are.

    I don't have the least problem proving my case with actual
    support. You haven't and can't.

    When you go to the Racing News webpage via the link above, look for the link
    pic.twitter.com/5CUCnOc0mp.

    What's 'Racing News'? Is that a website? Still obviously too
    incompetent to post a link I see.

    The link was posted. Here, I'll post it *again* so you can't keep pretending you don't see it--

    https://racingnews.co/2020/06/23/fbi-concludes-investigation-of-noose-at-nascar-race-in-talladega-its-been-there-since-october-2019/

    No news there. NO ONE has denied that the noose has been
    there for months....

    So we agree there's no story here.

    ... Eveyone knows what the noose represents
    and at whom it's directed. Any and all pretenses have been
    your own.

    And that link sheds no light whatsoever nor makes any claims
    regarding any additional nooses in the garage, so that TOO
    was a lie, wasn't it....

    No [?] key on your keyboard?

    But you conveniently ignored this--

    When you go to the Racing News webpage via the link above, look for the link
    pic.twitter.com/5CUCnOc0mp.

    ... If it were so simple, cut and dried
    that it was a known door pull why didn't anyone, including
    NASCAR or ANYONE else simply state that before calling in
    the FBI? Doesn't make sense does it.[sic]

    Social Justice Warriors got involved.

    If that's not enough, take a gander at
    https://nypost.com/2020/06/24/nascar-videos-show-multiple-nooses-before-bubba-wallace-incident/

    The New York Post? You might as well have referenced the Washington >>>>>> Examiner, The American Spectator, Fox News, Newsmax, Brietbart ... >>>>>> Each right wing site has as nearly as much credibility as you as a >>>>>> source of facts....

    Oh... you're a liberal.

    And you're a redneck, racist, race baiting, trump supporting, climate
    change and coronavirus denying (among other things no doubt), uneducated >>>> flat-earther. What a (non) shocking surprise. But one doesn't have to be >>>> a liberal to loathe stupid right wingers like yourself.

    Definite proof of your liberal bona fides: launch a slew of pejoratives against anyone who
    disagrees with the "correct" view.

    If it look like a duck, walks like a duck and quack likes
    a duck, what you've probably got there is a duck. So if
    the shoe fits, and it does, like a designer glove.

    To the child with a hammer, the whole world looks like a nail. To the butt-hurt liberal, anyone who
    disagrees is a racist, Trump-loving, climate change and coronavirus denying ignorant fool,
    regardless of facts. His mind is made up and it's pointless to attempt to educate him.

    But we agree that there's no story here-- the "noose" was extant last year, well before the stall
    was assigned to the 43 team.

    And here I thought you were just an annoying asshole. I should have known you are a SJW... all
    the signs are there.

    It's called intelligence married with a Liberal Arts education....

    That's how to create an annoying SJW asshole? So be it.

    Wrong yet again. The fact of the matter is I'm an elderly,
    service connected, disabled Vietnam veteran who had always
    strongly opposed the war, but I was an involuntary conscript.
    That means draftee to a worthless illiterate like you.

    You're still an annoying SJW asshole, regardless of age--

    "If it look[sic] like a duck, walks like a duck and quack[sic] likes a duck, what you've probably
    got there is a duck. So if the shoe fits, and it does, like a designer glove."

    As with everything else (as I'm sure you've heard many
    times before) you also make a very poor parrot without
    a mind or capability of possessing a thought of your own.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 25 14:21:43 2020
    In news:rd32dv$abv$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:

    On 6/25/2020 3:30 PM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd2umu$oah$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed: >>> On 6/25/2020 1:40 PM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd2dnf$b94$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/25/2020 8:39 AM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd22o6$lo9$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/25/2020 1:10 AM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd154o$j9q$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 7:51 PM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd0dte$sm2$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 3:29 PM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rd0chs$9i3$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 1:22 PM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rcvqsp$1tbj$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 9:15 AM, max headroom wrote:
    In news:rcvfm2$2ag$1@gioia.aioe.org, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> typed:
    On 6/24/2020 6:27 AM, Heron wrote:
    On 6/23/2020 4:55 PM, Heron wrote:
    On 6/23/2020 9:48 AM, Heron wrote:

    Regarding the noose incident, anyone want to bet that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any and all 'investigations' will prove 'inconclusive' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and no one will be punished and nothing will happen.

    This is NASCAR after all, despite pretense otherwise, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its entire history has always been southern redneck.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8453051/FBI-says-noose-Bubba-Wallaces-garage-misunderstanding.html

    Well that didn't take long. Yet another display of my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usual prescience, it hardly required clairvoyance tho.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8454261/Bubba-Wallace-insists-rope-NASCAR-garage-straight-noose.html

    They had to do an investigation for a door pull? Who but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the know nothings would believe such unadulterated bullshit? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who uses a noose for a door pull? None of the other garages >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obviously. Maybe Wendell Scott could share some light.

    https://racer.com/2020/06/23/nascar-continuing-its-own-investigation-into-noose-incident/

    Even NASCAR realizes that this is a PR disaster and none >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but the dumbest these days buy 'there's simply nothing to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see here, everyone just move along'. Regardless of where >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's found, everyone understands the symbol of a noose >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and who it is directed at, particularly in a southern US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting. Great job there FBI for getting to the crux of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the matter.

    So the photos from the past of that door pull are irrelevant, huh?

    You also quite undeniably have a reading comprehension issue.

    https://racingnews.co/2020/06/23/fbi-concludes-investigation-of-noose-at-nascar-race-in-talladega-its-been-there-since-october-2019/

    You can't comprehend what you don't read. The link above leads to more links that
    shows a similar door pull in another shop bay.

    Your empty, unsupported claim is as meaningless as are you. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Too bad no one here can support your claims risible claims >>>>>>>>>>>>> nor provide a convincing, cogent (or otherwise) argument >>>>>>>>>>>>> about the obvious racist meaning and threat of the noose.

    There was no noose. There was a pull cord tied with a loop, as the photos clearly show.

    You should click the link and stop embarrassing yourself by admitting your mind is made
    up and facts don't matter to you.

    And yet you continue to not so much as provide a single supported fact.

    The link provided supports the facts.

    If that bothers you, that's a bonus.

    You've already admitted that it did not, and I quote:
    "The link above leads to more links that shows a similar
    door pull in another shop bay", but you haven't and won't
    provide those links because they're imaginary and you're
    delusional, at best.

    Ok, I didn't realize how inept you are.

    I don't have the least problem proving my case with actual
    support. You haven't and can't.

    When you go to the Racing News webpage via the link above, look for the link
    pic.twitter.com/5CUCnOc0mp.

    What's 'Racing News'? Is that a website? Still obviously too
    incompetent to post a link I see.

    The link was posted. Here, I'll post it *again* so you can't keep pretending you don't see
    it--

    https://racingnews.co/2020/06/23/fbi-concludes-investigation-of-noose-at-nascar-race-in-talladega-its-been-there-since-october-2019/

    No news there. NO ONE has denied that the noose has been
    there for months....

    So we agree there's no story here.

    ... Eveyone knows what the noose represents
    and at whom it's directed. Any and all pretenses have been
    your own.

    And that link sheds no light whatsoever nor makes any claims
    regarding any additional nooses in the garage, so that TOO
    was a lie, wasn't it....

    No [?] key on your keyboard?

    But you conveniently ignored this--

    When you go to the Racing News webpage via the link above, look for the link
    pic.twitter.com/5CUCnOc0mp.

    ... If it were so simple, cut and dried
    that it was a known door pull why didn't anyone, including
    NASCAR or ANYONE else simply state that before calling in
    the FBI? Doesn't make sense does it.[sic]

    Social Justice Warriors got involved.

    If that's not enough, take a gander at
    https://nypost.com/2020/06/24/nascar-videos-show-multiple-nooses-before-bubba-wallace-incident/

    The New York Post? You might as well have referenced the Washington >>>>>>> Examiner, The American Spectator, Fox News, Newsmax, Brietbart ... >>>>>>> Each right wing site has as nearly as much credibility as you as a >>>>>>> source of facts....

    Oh... you're a liberal.

    And you're a redneck, racist, race baiting, trump supporting, climate >>>>> change and coronavirus denying (among other things no doubt), uneducated >>>>> flat-earther. What a (non) shocking surprise. But one doesn't have to be >>>>> a liberal to loathe stupid right wingers like yourself.

    Definite proof of your liberal bona fides: launch a slew of pejoratives against anyone who
    disagrees with the "correct" view.

    If it look like a duck, walks like a duck and quack likes
    a duck, what you've probably got there is a duck. So if
    the shoe fits, and it does, like a designer glove.

    To the child with a hammer, the whole world looks like a nail. To the butt-hurt liberal, anyone
    who disagrees is a racist, Trump-loving, climate change and coronavirus denying ignorant fool,
    regardless of facts. His mind is made up and it's pointless to attempt to educate him.

    But we agree that there's no story here-- the "noose" was extant last year, well before the stall
    was assigned to the 43 team.



    [crickets.wav]



    And here I thought you were just an annoying asshole. I should have known you are a SJW...
    all the signs are there.

    It's called intelligence married with a Liberal Arts education....

    That's how to create an annoying SJW asshole? So be it.

    Wrong yet again. The fact of the matter is I'm an elderly,
    service connected, disabled Vietnam veteran who had always
    strongly opposed the war, but I was an involuntary conscript.
    That means draftee to a worthless illiterate like you.

    You're still an annoying SJW asshole, regardless of age--

    "If it look[sic] like a duck, walks like a duck and quack[sic] likes a duck, what you've probably
    got there is a duck. So if the shoe fits, and it does, like a designer glove."

    As with everything else (as I'm sure you've heard many
    times before) you also make a very poor parrot without
    a mind or capability of possessing a thought of your own.

    It doesn't take *any* brainpower to deflate a stuffed shirt such as you. You're all bluff and
    bluster, running on emotion and feelings and no supporting facts, as is typical with SJWs.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)