• Russia's New Combat Robots Blown Up by Drones Near Avdiivka: Video

    From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 1 11:44:46 2024
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    from https://www.newsweek.com/russia-combat-robots-ugvs-drones-avdiivka-ukraine-video-1885406

    Russia's New Combat Robots Blown Up by Drones Near Avdiivka: Video
    Published Mar 31, 2024 at 10:06 AM EDT
    Updated Apr 01, 2024 at 9:32 AM EDT

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    Russia To Test New Ground Drones With Mounted Guns
    By Ellie Cook
    Security & Defense Reporter
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    Explosive Ukrainian drones have taken out Russian combat robots close to
    the Moscow-controlled strategic eastern city of Avdiivka, new footage
    appears to show, with smaller ground drones likely to have a more
    prominent role in future fighting.

    Russian forces have started using ground-based robots with automatic
    grenade launchers in combat in Ukraine, Kyiv's 47th Mechanized Brigade
    said in a post to social media on Saturday.

    Ukraine used first-person-view drones to take out two of the combat
    robots close to Avdiivka, a hotspot of fighting in Ukraine's eastern
    Donetsk region, the brigade said. Moscow captured Avdiivka in
    mid-February, and clashes have since raged on west of the settlement.

    Ukraine FPV drones targeting Russian UGVs
    A screenshot of a video posted by Ukraine's military, appearing to show
    drones targeting Russian ground drones. Kyiv destroyed two of the combat
    robots close to Avdiivka, in the eastern Donetsk region, Ukraine's
    military said.
    TELEGRAM/ UKRAINE'S 47TH SEPARATE MECHANIZED BRIGADE
    In a brief video published on messaging app Telegram by the brigade,
    what appears to be at least one Russian uncrewed ground vehicle (UGV) is targeted by drone specialists belonging to the brigade.

    "So far, these are isolated cases of the Russians using such a
    technique," the brigade added.

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    Newsweek could not independently verify this footage and has reached out
    to the Russian Defense Ministry via email for comment.

    Moscow and Kyiv have invested heavily in uncrewed vehicles, most
    prominently in the air, but also on the ground and on water. Russia and
    Ukraine are both using ground drones in their war efforts, often
    designed to keep soldiers further away from hostilities as the uncrewed vehicles take on dangerous missions.

    Russia has developed several types of ground drones, including the
    AI-enabled "Marker" combat robot and the Zubilo UGV, designed to help
    with logistics. Ukraine, too, is forging ahead with developing and
    deploying UGVs.

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    More and more small, light combat and logistics ground drones are
    appearing across the front lines, many of which are made by troops or
    volunteer organizations and feature more rudimentary designs that can be quickly assembled, said Samuel Bendett, of the Center for Naval Analyses.

    The video published by Ukraine's 47th Mechanized Brigade shows UGVs that
    have been incapacitated then repeatedly targeted by Ukrainian drones,
    meaning the ground drones were likely swiftly identified and destroyed,
    Bendett said.

    "What we will witness is the use of many cheap, light UGVs like those in
    this video that can be quickly put together, potentially quickly lost if necessary, and quickly replaced," he told Newsweek.


    With the sheer number of reconnaissance and surveillance drones in the air—able to sniff out larger, more sophisticated UGVs that Moscow has developed, like the "Marker"—"it's unlikely that large UGVs can appear
    in this war, at least for the foreseeable future," Bendett evaluated.

    From the clip published by Ukraine's military, it is not clear what the circumstances around the targeting of the Russian UGVs were. It is hard
    to tell whether the UGVs were sent out instead of soldiers, or alongside troops, Bendett said.

    "As more UGVs will enter combat, both sides will try to develop tactics
    and concepts for integrating them in assault and battlefield operations"
    and take away some of the danger for human fighters, he continued.

    Both Russia and Ukraine are pushing to develop UGVs that can
    increasingly operate on their own, he added.

    In mid-September 2023, Ukraine's drone tsar and Digital Transformation Minister, Mykhailo Fedorov, said Ukraine was testing its "Ironclad"
    unmanned robot in combat missions on the front lines.

    It is equipped with a machine gun, or robotic combat turret, and is
    designed to help assault enemy positions, conduct reconnaissance
    missions and provide fire support, Fedorov said. It can reportedly
    travel at a speed of up to 12 miles per hour.

    At the start of 2024, Ukraine's ground forces said its 5th Separate
    Assault Brigade was using a ground-based combat drone to target Russian positions.

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 1 11:51:53 2024
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    On 4/1/24 11:44, a425couple wrote:
    from https://www.newsweek.com/russia-combat-robots-ugvs-drones-avdiivka-ukraine-video-1885406

    Russia's New Combat Robots Blown Up by Drones Near Avdiivka: Video
    Published Mar 31, 2024 at 10:06 AM EDT
    Updated Apr 01, 2024 at 9:32 AM EDT


    some comments

    marcprou
    1 day ago

    A robot is an object with no intelligence led by a human towards its destruction and whose loss is insignificant. This definition could be
    applied to common Russian conscripts under Putin's regime .


    Felix
    19 hours ago

    SKYNET is now operational. Putin's conscripts will be fighting the
    T-800 day and night.

    large GIF


    Hay Seuss
    1 day ago

    robot's, are becoming intelligent and learning on their own. maybe our definitions are differnt? do you only consider AI to be intelligent and
    that they do not qualify as robots? to me those things are not mutually exclusive and are liable to be integrated tech before too long, giving
    us the potent...

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    John
    1 day ago

    Land drones on wheels or tracks seem vulnerable as tanks or other
    vehicles. I am sure they will get better and get used, but in this type
    of all out war they may be of less value that you would guess.

    In a battle with an enemy without extensive electronic and guided
    weapons they would likely be qui...

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    Hay Seuss
    1 day ago

    what they should be working on, instead of mimiciing std military
    equipment, is nano -tech-- flying insects and the like, they need to
    figure a way to have lethal weaponry at a micronnic level, then these
    swarm drones will be barely detectableand capable of masssive
    destruction--it is just a matter...

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    Huey55
    1 day ago

    Russia's wining the war; over the past year, they've taken meters of
    territory.




    John
    1 day ago

    One of the R-fans here said Russians have conquered 193 sq km of land
    sine 2023. That would be a square of land 14 miles on a side, not much. Especially, considering the cost. Actually, the real problem is Russia
    has shown losses don't matter and they will keep coming until they've
    got nothing left...

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    Bill Bogus
    19 hours ago

    My goodness. Were the Russian robots programmed to be drunk like real
    Russian soldiers?




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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Mon Apr 1 16:13:02 2024
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    On 4/1/24 14:52, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "a425couple"  wrote in message news:enDON.755239$xHn7.733316@fx14.iad...

    On 4/1/24 11:44, a425couple wrote:
    from
    https://www.newsweek.com/russia-combat-robots-ugvs-drones-avdiivka-ukraine-video-1885406


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goliath_tracked_mine
    "Although a total of 7,564 Goliaths were produced, the single-use weapon
    was not considered a success due to high unit cost, low speed (just
    above 6 kilometres per hour (3.7 mph)), poor ground clearance (just 11.4
    cm (4.5 in)), the vulnerable control cable, and thin armour which could
    not protect the vehicle from small-arms fire. The Goliath was also too
    big and heavy to be easily man-portable. They mostly failed to reach
    their targets, although the effect was considerable when they did."

    At Segway I worked on a robot version with remarkable off-road speed and mobility.

    https://www.obsbot.com/blog/camera/tracking-camera
    "Face-tracking webcams identify and track individuals based on their
    facial features. They are excellent for security, access control, and personalized user experiences."

    Personalized termination experience.

    Interesting.
    I am wondering how much more is being done on small A.I. robot
    individual killers.

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