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    From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 19 10:35:34 2024
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    from https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/19/ukraine-says-it-shot-down-russian-strategic-bomber-after-strike-kills-nine

    Ukraine says it shot down Russian strategic bomber after strike kills nine Russian officials says the plane crashed over the southern Stavropol
    region due to a technical malfunction.

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    Published On 19 Apr 2024
    19 Apr 2024

    Ukraine’s air force says it shot down a Russian strategic bomber with antiaircraft missiles for the first time since the war began in 2022.

    The warplane was downed in Russian airspace, 300km (186 miles) from
    Ukraine’s border, on Friday after it took part in a long-range air
    strike that killed at least nine people in the central region of Dnipropetrovsk.

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    The Ministry of Defence said the plane was returning to its base in
    Russia after having fired missiles at Ukraine overnight.

    “For the first time, antiaircraft missile units of the air force, in cooperation with the defence intelligence of Ukraine, destroyed a
    Tu-22M3 long-range strategic bomber,” Ukraine’s military said in a statement on Friday.

    Russia commonly uses the bomber to fire cruise missiles at Ukrainian
    targets from inside its own airspace.

    Air Force Tu-22M3
    The Russian Air Force’s Tu-22M3 [File: Russian Defense Ministry Press
    Service via AP]
    Russian officials denied Ukraine’s attack and said the plane crashed
    over the southern Stavropol region due to a technical malfunction.

    “A Russian armed forces Tu-22M3 aircraft crashed in the Stavropol region while returning to its base aerodrome after performing a combat mission.
    The pilots ejected,” the state-run TASS news agency quoted Russia’s
    Defence Ministry as saying.

    “According to preliminary data, the cause of the accident was a
    technical malfunction,” it added.

    Stavropol Governor Vladimir Vladimirov said on Telegram that one of the
    four crew members died in the incident, and two were taken to hospital.
    He added that the search for the fourth member was continuing.

    Reporting from Ukraine’s capital, Kyiv, Al Jazeera’s Charles Stratford
    said Ukraine hit these bombers in August last year, but they were on the ground.

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    “It’s impossible to independently verify this, but it is an indication seemingly that Ukrainians, despite their demand for better air defences,
    still have the capability to be able to take down jets, bombers and
    missiles seemingly at quite a long distance,” he said.

    A Russian missile attack in Dnipro
    A destroyed car at a site of a Russian missile strike, in Dnipro,
    Ukraine [Mykola Synelnykov/Reuters]

    Russian strikes killed at least nine people in the eastern city of
    Dnipro and surrounding region and injured at least 28 others.

    The strikes damaged residential buildings and the main train station.

    “A child who was heavily wounded during a massive enemy attack on the Dnipropetrovsk region today died in hospital. The death toll had now
    risen to nine, including three children,” the Office of Ukraine’s Prosecutor General said in a statement on Telegram on Friday.

    Interior Minister Ihor Klymenko said in a separate Telegram post that
    the number of victims is expected to rise as rubble from the damaged
    buildings is being cleared.

    The region’s governor, Serhiy Lysak, told Ukrainian TV that air defences
    shot down 11 of 16 missiles and nine of 10 drones that attacked the area.

    Following the strike, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy repeated
    his urgent calls for the country’s Western allies to supply them with
    air defence systems.

    “Every country that provides air defence systems to Ukraine, every
    leader who helps persuade our partners that air defence systems should
    not be stored in warehouses but deployed in real cities and communities
    facing terror, and everyone who supports our defence is a life saver,” Zelenskyy said on social media.

    On Thursday, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg told reporters that
    the alliance was also seeking to send more air defence systems to
    Ukraine as soon as possible.

    “We are working at the possibility of [dispatching] more Patriot
    batteries to Ukraine. We are in dialogue with some specific countries,”
    he said.

    The United States, one of Ukraine’s biggest suppliers of military aid,
    is expected to vote on a long-stalled $61bn package this weekend.

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 19 11:08:06 2024
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    On 4/19/24 10:35, a425couple wrote:
    from https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/19/ukraine-says-it-shot-down-russian-strategic-bomber-after-strike-kills-nine

    Ukraine says it shot down Russian strategic bomber after strike kills nine Russian officials says the plane crashed over the southern Stavropol
    region due to a technical malfunction.

    This was one of the once highly feared "Backfire" bombers.
    from 1969 & 1972, one of 497 built.
    "As of 2021, there were 66 of the aircraft in service.[3][4]"

    from
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-22M

    "In 1962, after the introduction of the Tupolev Tu-22, it became
    increasingly clear that the aircraft was inadequate in its role as a
    bomber. In addition to widespread unserviceability and maintenance
    problems, the Tu-22's handling characteristics proved to be dangerous.
    Its landing speed was 100 km/h (60 mph) greater than previous bombers
    and it had a tendency to pitch up and strike its tail upon landing. It
    was difficult to fly, and had poor all-round visibility."

    "The Tu-22M suffered from widespread maintenance problems due to poor manufacturing quality during its service with the Soviet forces. The
    engines and airframes in particular had short service lives.[29] The Air
    Force at one point sought to prosecute Tupolev for allegedly rushing the inadequate designs of the Tu-22M and the Tu-160 into service.[30] This
    was compounded by the government bureaucracy, which hampered the
    provision of spare parts to allow the servicing of the Tu-22M. With some aircraft grounded for up to six months, the mission-capable rate of the aircraft in August 1991 was around 30–40%

    On 5 December 2022, a Russian Aerospace Forces Tu-22M3 bomber,
    identified as RF-34110, was shown damaged as a result of a long-range
    drone attack by the Armed Forces of Ukraine against the Dyagilevo air
    base. Images on social media showed at least the engine outputs and the trailing edge of the stabilizers damaged.[58][59][60]

    On 20 August 2023, the Russian government confirmed a drone attack on an airbase in Novgorod and BBC News subsequently published verified images
    of a Tu-22M3 engulfed in flames at Soltsy air base, Russia, which had
    been attacked by drones on the day before.[61][62][63][64][65]

    Accoring to Ukraine, one Tu-22M3 was destroyed, and two were disabled,
    in an operation of a Ukrainian intelligence unit led by Oleh Babiy in
    August 2023.[66]

    During the 29 December 2023 Russian strikes on Ukraine and other
    attacks, some 300 Kh-22 missiles have been launched at Ukraine by
    Russian forces, all by Tu-22M bombers. None have been shot down by
    Ukrainian forces, although it is suggested that Russia has been
    targeting areas where there are no MIM-104 Patriot or SAMP/T missile batteries.[67][68]

    On 19 April 2024, Ukraine claimed to have shot down a Russian Tu-22M3 long-range strategic bomber over Stavropol Krai. Ukraine claimed that
    the bomber was trying to return to base but crashed near Stavropol.
    Russian authorities claimed the aircraft crashed due to a technical malfunction, killing one crew member, with another missing.

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 19 13:54:09 2024
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    On 4/19/24 11:08, a425couple wrote:
    On 4/19/24 10:35, a425couple wrote:
    from
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/19/ukraine-says-it-shot-down-russian-strategic-bomber-after-strike-kills-nine

    Ukraine says it shot down Russian strategic bomber after strike kills
    nine
    Russian officials says the plane crashed over the southern Stavropol
    region due to a technical malfunction.

    This was one of the once highly feared "Backfire" bombers.
    from 1969 & 1972, one of 497 built.
    "As of 2021, there were 66 of the aircraft in service.[3][4]"

    from
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-22M


    The Sun even has video of the damaged plane going down.

    https://www.the-sun.com/news/11133728/russia-bomber-shot-down-ukraine/

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