• Protesters Against Israel Fail Key History Test

    From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 17 15:15:47 2024
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    from https://www.newsweek.com/protesters-against-israel-fail-key-history-test-opinion-1898994

    Only evil anti-Semitics would try claiming these people don't
    have a right to live somewhere.

    Protesters Against Israel Fail Key History Test | Opinion
    Published May 09, 2024 at 1:44 PM EDT

    00:59
    Americans' Support for Israel Aid Slides
    By Roya Hakakian
    Author
    63
    In the war between Israel and Hamas, there have been far too many casualties­—thousands of innocent civilians have died, primarily in
    Gaza. But this war has another less visible casualty: the hundreds of
    thousands of Jewish immigrants to Israel from the Middle East and North
    Africa known as Mizrahi, whose history is being erased from the popular narrative about Israel. My community is among them.

    When angry protesters hurl charges of apartheid and colonialism at
    Israel, they are, knowingly or not, repudiating the truth about Israel's
    origin and the vast racial and ethnic diversity of its nation.

    I was born and raised in Iran in a family of Jewish educators. I came of
    age during the tumultuous years of the Iranian revolution, just as
    Ayatollah Khomeini rose to power in 1979, and soon thereafter,
    annihilated his opposition­—feminists, leftists, even the Islamic
    Marxists who had long revered him as their spiritual leader. Until 1979,
    if anyone had told my observant Jewish family that we would someday
    leave Iran, we would have laughed. In fact, at our Passover seders, the
    words "next year in Jerusalem," were always followed by chuckles and
    quips, "oh, yeah, sure, Watch me pack!" all underlining our collective
    belief that we were exactly where we intended to remain. We loved
    Israel, but Israel was a Nirvana­—a place we revered but never expected
    to reach.

    False Understanding of History
    Protesters march with a sign "Paris mobilizes against genocide and
    colonialism" on Dec. 2, in Paris, France. OWEN FRANKEN - CORBIS/GETTY IMAGES The 30 years preceding the Islamic revolution had led the Jewish
    community to believe that the dark days of bigotry were behind them. And
    for good reason! When my father was a schoolboy in the late 1930s, he
    was not allowed to attend school on rainy days. In the highly
    conservative town where he grew up, in Khonsar, his Shiite neighbors
    considered Jews "unclean," or Najes. They barred them, among other
    things, from leaving their homes on rainy days, lest the rainwater
    splashed off the bodies of the Jews and onto the Muslim passersby, thus
    making them "unclean," too. Yet, that same boy grew up, left the insular
    town, attended college in Tehran, earned a master's degree, and served
    in the royal army as a second lieutenant. (To his last day, my father's
    photo in military uniform was among his most prized possessions.) After service, he became the principal of a school, purchased a home in what
    was then a relatively upscale neighborhood of Tehran. The distance
    between my father's childhood and adulthood far surpassed two decades.
    It was the distance between two eras­—between incivility and civility, bigotry and tolerance.

    Yet, as if on cue, the demon of antisemitism was unleashed again. The
    1979 Islamic revolution summoned all the prejudices my father thought
    had been irretrievably buried. One day, on the wall across our home,
    graffiti appeared, "Jews gets lost!" Soon thereafter, the residence and
    fabric store my aunt and her extended family owned in my father's
    childhood town were set on fire after a mob of protesters looted it.
    Within days, she and her family, whose entire life's savings had burned
    in that fire, left for Israel. As young as I was, I could see that the
    regime was indiscriminately brutal to all those it deemed a threat to
    its reign, especially secular Muslims. But the new laws were
    specifically designed so that non-Muslims, and women, all but became second-class citizens. Members of religious minorities, especially the
    Baha'i, could no longer eye top jobs in academia, government, the
    military, etc. Restaurateurs had to display signs in their windows
    making clear that "the establishment was operated by a non-Muslim." In a
    court of law, members of religious minorities could offer testimony in
    criminal trials, but theirs would only count as half that of a Muslim
    witness. Jews were once again reduced to Dhimmis­—tax-paying citizens
    who were allowed to live, but not thrive. Then came a handful of
    executions of prominent Jewish leaders in the early months after the revolution, which sent shockwaves through the community. Jewish schools
    were allowed to operate, but under the headmastership of Muslims who
    were officially appointed.

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    Within a few years after the rise of Ayatollah Khomeini to power, the
    Jewish population of Iran, which once stood at 100,000, shrank to a
    fraction of its size. Today, of the ancient community whose presence in
    Iran predates that of Muslims, only 8,000 remain. For centuries, Iran
    has been home to the most sacred Jewish sites in the Middle East outside
    of Israel. But those monuments have either fallen into disrepair or are
    targets of regular attacks by antisemitic mobs. Only last week, the tomb
    of Esther and Mordecai­—the memorial to the heroine and hero from the
    Book of Esther who saved the Jews from being massacred in ancient
    Persia, was set on fire.

    READ MORE
    President Joe Biden Is Good for the Jews and for Israel
    Hamas Is to Blame for Israel's Rafah Operation
    The Mainstream Media Is Biased Against Israel. I Know, I Was Part of It

    How is it that the 90,000-plus who left Iran, many for Israel, are now
    deemed as occupiers? How do Iranian refugees fleeing persecution become "colonizers" upon arrival in Israel? These families, my aunt among them,
    were not emissaries of any standing empire, nor were they returning to a
    place where they had no history. For them, Israel was not a home away
    from their real homeland. It was their only homeland. The vitriolic
    slogan that appeared across my home in 1979 demanded that we "get lost!"
    In 2024, once again, the same Jews are being called upon to leave, this
    time Israel. Where, then, are Jews allowed to live?

    Iranian Jews were not alone. Jews from Iraq, especially in the aftermath
    of the 1941 pogrom called Farhood, similarly fled their homeland. So did
    the Jews of Yemen, Tunisia, Egypt, Turkey, Syria, Morocco, Algeria,
    Ethiopia, Afghanistan, etc. All, destitute and dejected, they took
    refuge in Israel. Today, they make up nearly 50 percent of Israel's
    population. To call such a nation colonial GRAVELY misrepresents the
    facts about Jews and Israel.

    In his timeless essay, Looking Back on the Spanish Civil War, George
    Orwell said that in the Spain of 1937, he "saw history being written not
    in terms of what happened but of what ought to have happened according
    to various 'party lines.'" With the alarming rise of antisemitism around
    the world, and in light of the bloody attacks on Israel by Hamas on Oct.
    7, the greatest massacre of Jews since World War II, 2024 bears an
    uncanny resemblance to Orwell's 1937. But perhaps in no way more
    ominously than the way truth has been upended to serve an ideological narrative­—one in which Jews, who have lived uninterruptedly in that
    land for more than two millennia, are cast as white non-indigenous
    interlopers, with no roots in what has always been their ancient homeland.

    A public scholar at the Moynihan Center (CCNY), Roya Hakakian is the
    author of several books including, Journey from the Land of No: A
    Girlhood Caught in Revolutionary Iran (Crown, 2005).

    The views expressed in this article are the writer's own.

    Request Reprint & Licensing Submit Correction View Editorial Guidelines
    About the writer
    Roya Hakakian


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    Palestine must give up both the Hostages and Hamas, and condemn the
    behavior. Until then, they have not shown the ability to self-govern.


    Wyrd
    9 May, 2024

    ""Jews of Yemen, Tunisia, Egypt, Turkey, Syria, Morocco, Algeria,
    Ethiopia, Afghanistan, etc. All, destitute and dejected, they took
    refuge in Israel. Today, they make up nearly 50 percent of Israel's population."""

    Wow, I never knew that. Great article.

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  • From Rudy Crayola@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 22 22:51:20 2024
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    On 6/17/2024 5:15 PM, a425couple wrote:

    Cut the lying propaganda Bullshit. You know most of what you posted is absolute crap on this subject.

    American citizens have enough on their plate without having to protect
    the Jews from themselves. They have been thrown out of every country on
    earth at one time or another. They are still not learning to behave.
    We are borrowing massive amounts of resources just to feed and repair
    the horrible damages they have created. You say one word against a Jew
    in Germany and get locked up. Real Democratic of those people.

    Maybe you would like to speak at the next reunion of the USS Liberty?

    from https://www.newsweek.com/protesters-against-israel-fail-key-history-test-opinion-1898994

    Only evil anti-Semitics would try claiming these people don't
    have a right to live somewhere.

    Protesters Against Israel Fail Key History Test | Opinion
    Published May 09, 2024 at 1:44 PM EDT

    00:59
    Americans' Support for Israel Aid Slides
    By Roya Hakakian
    Author
    63
    In the war between Israel and Hamas, there have been far too many casualties­—thousands of innocent civilians have died, primarily in
    Gaza. But this war has another less visible casualty: the hundreds of thousands of Jewish immigrants to Israel from the Middle East and North Africa known as Mizrahi, whose history is being erased from the popular narrative about Israel. My community is among them.

    When angry protesters hurl charges of apartheid and colonialism at
    Israel, they are, knowingly or not, repudiating the truth about Israel's origin and the vast racial and ethnic diversity of its nation.

    I was born and raised in Iran in a family of Jewish educators. I came of
    age during the tumultuous years of the Iranian revolution, just as
    Ayatollah Khomeini rose to power in 1979, and soon thereafter,
    annihilated his opposition­—feminists, leftists, even the Islamic
    Marxists who had long revered him as their spiritual leader. Until 1979,
    if anyone had told my observant Jewish family that we would someday
    leave Iran, we would have laughed. In fact, at our Passover seders, the
    words "next year in Jerusalem," were always followed by chuckles and
    quips, "oh, yeah, sure, Watch me pack!" all underlining our collective
    belief that we were exactly where we intended to remain. We loved
    Israel, but Israel was a Nirvana­—a place we revered but never expected
    to reach.

    False Understanding of History
    Protesters march with a sign "Paris mobilizes against genocide and colonialism" on Dec. 2, in Paris, France. OWEN FRANKEN - CORBIS/GETTY
    IMAGES
    The 30 years preceding the Islamic revolution had led the Jewish
    community to believe that the dark days of bigotry were behind them. And
    for good reason! When my father was a schoolboy in the late 1930s, he
    was not allowed to attend school on rainy days. In the highly
    conservative town where he grew up, in Khonsar, his Shiite neighbors considered Jews "unclean," or Najes. They barred them, among other
    things, from leaving their homes on rainy days, lest the rainwater
    splashed off the bodies of the Jews and onto the Muslim passersby, thus making them "unclean," too. Yet, that same boy grew up, left the insular town, attended college in Tehran, earned a master's degree, and served
    in the royal army as a second lieutenant. (To his last day, my father's
    photo in military uniform was among his most prized possessions.) After service, he became the principal of a school, purchased a home in what
    was then a relatively upscale neighborhood of Tehran. The distance
    between my father's childhood and adulthood far surpassed two decades.
    It was the distance between two eras­—between incivility and civility, bigotry and tolerance.

    Yet, as if on cue, the demon of antisemitism was unleashed again. The
    1979 Islamic revolution summoned all the prejudices my father thought
    had been irretrievably buried. One day, on the wall across our home,
    graffiti appeared, "Jews gets lost!" Soon thereafter, the residence and fabric store my aunt and her extended family owned in my father's
    childhood town were set on fire after a mob of protesters looted it.
    Within days, she and her family, whose entire life's savings had burned
    in that fire, left for Israel. As young as I was, I could see that the
    regime was indiscriminately brutal to all those it deemed a threat to
    its reign, especially secular Muslims. But the new laws were
    specifically designed so that non-Muslims, and women, all but became second-class citizens. Members of religious minorities, especially the Baha'i, could no longer eye top jobs in academia, government, the
    military, etc. Restaurateurs had to display signs in their windows
    making clear that "the establishment was operated by a non-Muslim." In a court of law, members of religious minorities could offer testimony in criminal trials, but theirs would only count as half that of a Muslim witness. Jews were once again reduced to Dhimmis­—tax-paying citizens
    who were allowed to live, but not thrive. Then came a handful of
    executions of prominent Jewish leaders in the early months after the revolution, which sent shockwaves through the community. Jewish schools
    were allowed to operate, but under the headmastership of Muslims who
    were officially appointed.

    Sign up for Newsletter
    NEWSLETTER
    The Bulletin
    Your Morning Starts Here
    Begin your day with a curated outlook of top news around the world and
    why it matters.

    Within a few years after the rise of Ayatollah Khomeini to power, the
    Jewish population of Iran, which once stood at 100,000, shrank to a
    fraction of its size. Today, of the ancient community whose presence in
    Iran predates that of Muslims, only 8,000 remain. For centuries, Iran
    has been home to the most sacred Jewish sites in the Middle East outside
    of Israel. But those monuments have either fallen into disrepair or are targets of regular attacks by antisemitic mobs. Only last week, the tomb
    of Esther and Mordecai­—the memorial to the heroine and hero from the
    Book of Esther who saved the Jews from being massacred in ancient
    Persia, was set on fire.

    READ MORE
    President Joe Biden Is Good for the Jews and for Israel
    Hamas Is to Blame for Israel's Rafah Operation
    The Mainstream Media Is Biased Against Israel. I Know, I Was Part of It

    How is it that the 90,000-plus who left Iran, many for Israel, are now
    deemed as occupiers? How do Iranian refugees fleeing persecution become "colonizers" upon arrival in Israel? These families, my aunt among them,
    were not emissaries of any standing empire, nor were they returning to a place where they had no history. For them, Israel was not a home away
    from their real homeland. It was their only homeland. The vitriolic
    slogan that appeared across my home in 1979 demanded that we "get lost!"
    In 2024, once again, the same Jews are being called upon to leave, this
    time Israel. Where, then, are Jews allowed to live?

    Iranian Jews were not alone. Jews from Iraq, especially in the aftermath
    of the 1941 pogrom called Farhood, similarly fled their homeland. So did
    the Jews of Yemen, Tunisia, Egypt, Turkey, Syria, Morocco, Algeria,
    Ethiopia, Afghanistan, etc. All, destitute and dejected, they took
    refuge in Israel. Today, they make up nearly 50 percent of Israel's population. To call such a nation colonial GRAVELY misrepresents the
    facts about Jews and Israel.

    In his timeless essay, Looking Back on the Spanish Civil War, George
    Orwell said that in the Spain of 1937, he "saw history being written not
    in terms of what happened but of what ought to have happened according
    to various 'party lines.'" With the alarming rise of antisemitism around
    the world, and in light of the bloody attacks on Israel by Hamas on Oct.
    7, the greatest massacre of Jews since World War II, 2024 bears an
    uncanny resemblance to Orwell's 1937. But perhaps in no way more
    ominously than the way truth has been upended to serve an ideological narrative­—one in which Jews, who have lived uninterruptedly in that
    land for more than two millennia, are cast as white non-indigenous interlopers, with no roots in what has always been their ancient homeland.

    A public scholar at the Moynihan Center (CCNY), Roya Hakakian is the
    author of several books including, Journey from the Land of No: A
    Girlhood Caught in Revolutionary Iran (Crown, 2005).

    The views expressed in this article are the writer's own.

    Request Reprint & Licensing Submit Correction View Editorial Guidelines
    About the writer
    Roya Hakakian


    Building A
    10 May, 2024

    Palestine must give up both the Hostages and Hamas, and condemn the
    behavior. Until then, they have not shown the ability to self-govern.


    Wyrd
    9 May, 2024

    ""Jews of Yemen, Tunisia, Egypt, Turkey, Syria, Morocco, Algeria,
    Ethiopia, Afghanistan, etc. All, destitute and dejected, they took
    refuge in Israel. Today, they make up nearly 50 percent of Israel's population."""

    Wow, I never knew that.  Great article.



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  • From CaLaVeRa@21:1/5 to Rudy Crayola on Sun Jun 23 10:55:27 2024
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    On 6/22/2024 9:51 PM, Rudy Crayola wrote:
    Cut the lying propaganda Bullshit.


    Where'd your Sleazynews account go, little man Ball?

    Are you paying their SPAM cleanup fees?

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  • From Rudy Crayola@21:1/5 to CaLaVeRa on Wed Jun 26 06:00:34 2024
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    On 6/23/2024 11:55 AM, CaLaVeRa wrote:
    On 6/22/2024 9:51 PM, Rudy Crayola wrote:
    Cut the lying propaganda Bullshit.


    Where'd your Sleazynews account go, little man Ball?

    Are you paying their SPAM cleanup fees?

    Just goes to show how uninformed y0u really are. The real Rudy is still servicing his Neighbors Chihuahua in Sacramento. If you pet both
    Jonathon Ball and the Chihuahua, they might let you join them.


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