• Re: the race for warp drive

    From a425couple@21:1/5 to kymhorsell@gmail.com on Tue Jul 2 10:47:09 2024
    XPost: alt.astronomy, alt.fan.heinlein

    On 6/27/24 06:50, kymhorsell@gmail.com wrote:
    Warp Theorists Say We've Entered an Exotic Propulsion Space Race to Build the World's First Working Warp Drive
    The Debrief, 27 Jun 2024
    An international team of physicists behind several revolutionary warp
    drive concepts, including the first to require no exotic matter, says
    that recent unprecedented breakthroughs in physics and propulsion have launched the world powers into a Cold War-style, 21st-century space
    race to build the world's first working warp drive.


    My opinion - Yes, we need better propulsion for space travel.
    But NO, we do not necessarily need to go faster than
    the Speed of Light. That feat, may indeed be impossible.
    But slower than the speed of light still allows great
    human exploration.

    I think it is just incredible what we are doing with
    robot machines and artificial intelligence in
    our exploring on Mars. Flying a helicopter!!

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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to R Kym Horsell on Wed Jul 3 16:21:11 2024
    XPost: alt.astronomy, alt.fan.heinlein

    R Kym Horsell wrote on 3/07/2024 2:38 pm:
    In alt.astronomy a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 6/27/24 06:50, kymhorsell@gmail.com wrote:
    Warp Theorists Say We've Entered an Exotic Propulsion Space Race
    to Build the World's First Working Warp Drive The Debrief, 27 Jun
    2024 An international team of physicists behind several
    revolutionary warp drive concepts, including the first to require
    no exotic matter, says that recent unprecedented breakthroughs in
    physics and propulsion have launched the world powers into a Cold
    War-style, 21st-century space race to build the world's first
    working warp drive.

    My opinion - Yes, we need better propulsion for space travel. But
    NO, we do not necessarily need to go faster than the Speed of
    Light. That feat, may indeed be impossible.
    ...

    Then you're in luck. The initial warp drives will likely be
    sub-light. The FTL version so far is only "just" possible using bags
    of energy and exotic matter.

    But the universe managed to go from 0 to 100 bn light years in only
    14 bn y so at least we have something to aim for because "anture did
    it first". ;)

    Sorry!! When did we determine that The Universe was '100 bn light years' across??
    --
    Daniel

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  • From Kualinar@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 4 11:57:16 2024
    XPost: alt.astronomy, alt.fan.heinlein

    Le 2024-07-03 à 00:38, R Kym Horsell a écrit :
    In alt.astronomy a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 6/27/24 06:50, kymhorsell@gmail.com wrote:
    Warp Theorists Say We've Entered an Exotic Propulsion Space Race to Build the
    World's First Working Warp Drive
    The Debrief, 27 Jun 2024
    An international team of physicists behind several revolutionary warp
    drive concepts, including the first to require no exotic matter, says
    that recent unprecedented breakthroughs in physics and propulsion have
    launched the world powers into a Cold War-style, 21st-century space
    race to build the world's first working warp drive.


    My opinion - Yes, we need better propulsion for space travel.
    But NO, we do not necessarily need to go faster than
    the Speed of Light. That feat, may indeed be impossible.
    ...

    Then you're in luck. The initial warp drives will likely be sub-light.
    The FTL version so far is only "just" possible using bags of energy
    and exotic matter.

    But the universe managed to go from 0 to 100 bn light years in only 14 bn y so at least we have something to aim for because "anture did it first". ;)

    The speed limit is for thing travelling through space. NOT for space itself. Going faster than light would imply manipulating the geometry of
    space-time locally in a controlled manner.

    You can't just say that the universe is 100 billion light year across.
    We don't know the actual size of the universe. We may never know. It may
    be impossible to know.

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