• Europe Deserves Its Humiliation

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    Europe Deserves Its Humiliation

    A Polish Army soldier sits in a tank as a NATO flag flies behind during
    the NATO Noble Jump military exercises of the Very High Readiness Joint
    Task Force in Zagan, Poland, June 18, 2015.(Sean Gallup/Getty Images)
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    By Rich Lowry
    February 18, 2025 6:30 AM
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    It must spend more for its own defense, as American leaders have warned
    for years.
    Europe has been warned, and warned again.

    Still, it has been reduced to a near-fainting fit — and, in the case of
    one German official, actual tears — over the Trump administration’s
    tough words about its deficient military spending and its moves to begin negotiating on its own with Russia over the Ukraine war.

    In response, French President Emmanuel Macron called an emergency summit
    of European leaders, which his advisers insisted wasn’t an emergency
    summit at all, but merely a rapidly assembled informal meeting.

    Whatever the nomenclature, there are signs that Europe is beginning to
    get the memo — or, more precisely, beginning ...

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    jabster
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    The elephant in the room is that the economies in Canada, the EU, and
    the UK are in the toilet, thanks to proggy policies in each of those
    countries. They are scared scheißeless of the possibility of tariffs.
    Tariffs won't be good for the US in any multiverse, but they will be devastating to those countries.

    The GDPs of Canada and the EU have both flatlined since the election of
    Trudeau in the case of Canada, and the Great Recession coincident with
    the leadership of East German Merkel and Hot for Teacher Macron in the
    case of the EU.

    The biggest fear they have of Trump is that their own people may start
    to get dangerous ideas.

    The second biggest fear is that the welfare state gravy train will have
    to come to a screeching halt to Pay Their Fair Share(TM) for NATO to
    stay intact.


    DNW
    VIP
    The US should commit to no more than the lowest NATO contributor. I
    believe that’s Italy at around 1.5%

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    29 min ago • Edited

    livingrightfromtheleftcoast
    Top Commenter
    For how many years have we been told how amazing so and so leftist /
    socialist EU country is and why cant we have that? BECAUSE THEY DON'T
    PAY FOR THIER DEFENSE! They pay for their citizens to not work and have
    free health care. I don't see how they reverse course and suddenly tell
    their voters that all that welfare is going away. Welfare is a one way
    street. We see it here in the inner cities where we are 6 generations
    into a welfare system that has caused the cities to become unlivable.

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    38 min ago • Edited

    InkStained
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    If NATO = the U.S. continues to do most of the spending, building,
    bleeding and dying, while Europe continues to enjoy seven (or more) paid vacation weeks a year, then NATO is probably finished.

    If NATO means an actual alliance of serious, independent nations, let's
    talk.


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    48 min ago

    Wayfinder
    Conversation Starter
    There is no doubt that Europe needs to step up its defense spending and readiness. There is no doubt that some of the older NATO members such as
    France and Germany have thrived under the U.S. security umbrella since
    the end of WW II while being less than grateful for the hundreds of
    thousands of American lives lost to free Europe. Having said that, we
    need to make sure that we do not alienate our allies, friends, and
    partners, wherever they are. Our foreign policy needs to be both strong
    and smart, not strong and reckless. Let’s continue to work with
    Europeans and keep them on our side even if it means we have to tell
    them hard truths. Abandoning NATO and losing Europe to Russia would be a strategic mistake of colossal proportions.



    Wayfinder
    Conversation Starter
    I said that doing that would be a huge mistake.

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    13 min ago

    JimBob5881
    Legend
    Part of the dismantling of Europe that is the result of the E.U. is that
    Europe is made more easily invaded .....not by foreign powers like
    Russia...but a culture like Islam.

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    1 hour ago

    pabloabo
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    I agree with this article. Further, I think an amendment to the NATO
    charter should not make 2% of GDP spending a target, but a requirement
    to remain in NATO and to trigger Article 5.
    Now, countries like Luxembourg, Spain and Italy might think they are far
    enough away from the action to worry too much about Russian aggression.
    But non state actors, or non nuclear states pose a grave threat as well.
    They should care about this more than they do since the only time
    Article 5 was triggered in NATO history was after 9/11--and it was not
    due Russian/USSR aggression.


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