• Re: SS 101 - Krugman's lipstick on a pig

    From a425couple@21:1/5 to Baxter on Wed Mar 12 16:11:38 2025
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    On 3/12/25 08:10, Baxter wrote:
    "three key points:

    1. Social Security isn’t a Ponzi scheme or a scam; it’s just a government program supported by a dedicated tax, which is perfectly normal

    2. It’s a highly successful program, which has vastly improved older Americans’ lives

    3. It faces a financial shortfall, but the shortfall isn’t that big, and sustaining Social Security is well within America’s means."

    https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/the-clean-little-secret-of-social? utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

    Krugman is smart (although often wrong) and he does a pretty good
    job trying to put lipstick on a pig.

    Yes, Social Security is "a government
    program supported by a dedicated tax,

    That forces working age citizens to pay in, and gives their
    money, mostly to "baby boomers" who are retired.
    The love of youth, to give to their elders seems to
    me to be wearing a bit thin.

    Yes, Social Security "which has vastly improved older
    Americans’ lives", especially those who DID NOT properly
    invest and save for their older years.

    Have you checked the birth rates lately?

    Yes, it faces a shortfall. "but the shortfall isn’t
    that big, and sustaining Social Security is well within
    America’s means." OK, depending on your view of "means".

    Are the young workers, who are also voters, going to be
    willing to pay increasing amounts for the future payouts
    that are going to be reduced? (The starting age is
    going to have to be increased.)

    I hope they will. But I am very glad that the
    MRDs (Minimum Required Distributions) from my
    IRA (Individual Retirement Account) is a higher
    amount than my SS income.

    As the trust fund gets spent down, Social Security's
    similarity to a Ponzi Scheme will become more obvious
    to all. I note that even Krugman did not call it
    an "insurance plan".

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to a425couple@hotmail.com on Thu Mar 13 02:37:41 2025
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    a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote in news:KwoAP.814872$TBhc.560073@fx16.iad:

    On 3/12/25 08:10, Baxter wrote:
    "three key points:

    1. Social Security isn’t a Ponzi scheme or a scam; it’s just a
    government program supported by a dedicated tax, which is perfectly
    normal

    2. It’s a highly successful program, which has vastly improved
    older Americans’ lives

    3. It faces a financial shortfall, but the shortfall isn’t that
    big, and sustaining Social Security is well within America’s
    means."

    https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/the-clean-little-secret-of-social?
    utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

    Krugman is smart (although often wrong) and he does a pretty good
    job trying to put lipstick on a pig.

    Yes, Social Security is "a government
    program supported by a dedicated tax,

    That forces working age citizens to pay in, and gives their
    money, mostly to "baby boomers" who are retired.
    The love of youth, to give to their elders seems to
    me to be wearing a bit thin.

    Yes, Social Security "which has vastly improved older
    Americans’ lives", especially those who DID NOT properly
    invest and save for their older years.

    Have you checked the birth rates lately?

    Yes, it faces a shortfall. "but the shortfall isn’t
    that big, and sustaining Social Security is well within
    America’s means." OK, depending on your view of "means".

    Are the young workers, who are also voters, going to be
    willing to pay increasing amounts for the future payouts
    that are going to be reduced? (The starting age is
    going to have to be increased.)

    I hope they will. But I am very glad that the
    MRDs (Minimum Required Distributions) from my
    IRA (Individual Retirement Account) is a higher
    amount than my SS income.

    As the trust fund gets spent down, Social Security's
    similarity to a Ponzi Scheme will become more obvious
    to all. I note that even Krugman did not call it
    an "insurance plan".



    SS functions like insurance.

    And if the trust fund gets spent down, benefit payouts get reduced - it
    is a pay-as-you-go system.

    It is NOT a ponzi scheme.

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