• Re: Yo Baxter - Deluzio to Democrats: don't reject tariffs

    From Baxter@21:1/5 to a425couple@hotmail.com on Fri Mar 21 22:55:43 2025
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    a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote in news:vOlDP.17800$d51.16227@fx46.iad:

    Yo Baxter, we know you are so obsessed with your TDS that
    you can not think things through. Or even be honest, but:

    from
    https://www.wesa.fm/politics-government/2025-03-07/deluzio-tariffs-demo crats-trump

    Deluzio to Democrats: don't reject tariffs — despite misgivings
    about Trump 90.5 WESA | By Tom Riese
    Published March 7, 2025 at 5:47 PM EST
    /
    90.5 WESA
    U.S. Rep. Chris Deluzio on May 13, 2024.
    Western Pennsylvania Congressman Chris Deluzio says Democrats should
    use tariffs as an economic tool — despite misgivings that may stem
    from President Trump’s chaotic deployment of the policy.

    We've has tariffs before, we know how they work. Deluzio is either an
    idiot or is playing YOU for an idiot.

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 21 15:32:59 2025
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    Yo Baxter, we know you are so obsessed with your TDS that
    you can not think things through. Or even be honest, but:

    from https://www.wesa.fm/politics-government/2025-03-07/deluzio-tariffs-democrats-trump

    Deluzio to Democrats: don't reject tariffs — despite misgivings about Trump 90.5 WESA | By Tom Riese
    Published March 7, 2025 at 5:47 PM EST
    /
    90.5 WESA
    U.S. Rep. Chris Deluzio on May 13, 2024.
    Western Pennsylvania Congressman Chris Deluzio says Democrats should use tariffs as an economic tool — despite misgivings that may stem from
    President Trump’s chaotic deployment of the policy.

    After weeks of seeing Trump using tariffs as a threat and a bargaining
    chip, “We have some Democrats who are deciding that ‘All tariffs all the time are to be opposed,’ and I don't think that makes any sense,”
    Deluzio told WESA Friday.

    In a New York Times op-ed published earlier that day, Deluzio said
    tariffs can help U.S. manufacturing, even though President Trump's on-again/off-again use of them on Canada and Mexico has been damaging.

    “Democrats need to break free from the wrong-for-decades zombie horde of neoliberal economists who think tariffs are always bad,” the piece argued.

    Deluzio told WESA his constituents know a new approach is needed:
    “Tariffs are a piece of it. Industrial policy, incentivizing American companies to produce here, better trade enforcement, better trade deals
    — that's what we ought to be doing.”

    “I don't want folks to be confused. I think [Trump’s] approach has been wrong,” he said. “But I think Democrats ought to be a little more
    strategic in considering the effect of tariffs.”

    If they’re carefully thought out, Deluzio said, tariffs can encourage
    U.S. companies to produce more at home and prevent companies from
    exploiting cheap labor overseas. “Bad trade policies” such as the North American Free Trade Agreement enacted in the 1990s, he said, led to the
    decline of domestic manufacturing, especially in the Rust Belt.

    Deluzio said some Democratic colleagues agree with him, including those
    from Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin.

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    Groups like the Council on Foreign Relations note that U.S.
    manufacturing was on a downward trend as early as the 1970s.
    Pittsburgh’s own steel industry collapsed in the 1980s, well before the controversial NAFTA trade agreement with Canada and Mexico took effect.

    But Deluzio said such pacts didn’t help. Instead, those policies “led to the death of a lot of American manufacturing jobs, solid union jobs…
    [and] let Wall Street and the corporate-management class decide that it
    was more important to chase the cheapest and weakest labor rules… at the expense of American manufacturing.”

    For example, Mexican workers by some estimates make four times less than
    the average American worker. And Deluzio said that unless the U.S.
    ensures those workers are not exploited by trade deals, “we're not going
    to see tariffs alone fix our trade deficit,” as companies look to other countries for less expensive labor.

    “Places like Western Pennsylvania and the Rust Belt that saw bad trade
    deals for decades — we know what it is to see our country fail us on trade,” Deluzio said. “And I think Democrats should be wise to
    understand the importance of tariffs in our toolbox of how we grow
    American manufacturing jobs.”

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