Eternal September filtering is really good. Not only does it filter out
the Spam, but OBTP as well.

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I still see Bob's posts, Tim.  Or maybe it's email.

Hey Bob, post something here.  Trash me as a motor glider pilot. I can
take it without running to a safe space.

Dan 5J
On 12/30/23 04:46, Tim Newport-Peace wrote:

Eternal September filtering is really good. Not only does it filter
out the Spam, but OBTP as well.

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Thanks for posting that, Tim.  I got quite a chuckle out of "deGrinch"
and motorglider guys tolling...

Oh, and I witnessed that glider overshoot/crash landing at Moriarty. 
Pretty lame piloting, I'd say.

Dan 5J
On 12/30/23 15:39, Tim Newport-Peace wrote:

On 30/12/2023 16:55, Tom BravoMike wrote:

On 2023-12-30 09:37, Dan Marotta wrote:

I still see Bob's posts, Tim.  Or maybe it's email.

Hey Bob, post something here.  Trash me as a motor glider pilot. I
can take it without running to a safe space.

Dan 5J
On 12/30/23 04:46, Tim Newport-Peace wrote:

Eternal September filtering is really good. Not only does it filter
out the Spam, but OBTP as well.

You didn't get it, Dan. It was a sample of British sense of humor (or
humour) on part of Tim who is missing Bob's entertaining posts as
much as I am :-)

Happy New Year to All - with many great, long, safe flights!

Tom BravoMike

Not quite, at 20:39 GMT OBTP posted:

Tim is having withdrawals from the good side of RAS, it is pretty
evident that the Grinch brothers hate Santa and certainly go out of
their way to complain or maybe they did not complain and it was all fabricated by John DeGrinch. Speaking of John the last time I saw John
he was in Moriarty trying to land his glider on a 6k foot runway,
overshoot and went skidding off the =
runway and if not mistaken clipped one of the runway lights, so much
for his expertise!
I did tell one of the motorglider guys a while back that I smelled a
rat with the announcement of RAS Prime and they guy responded to me
with the prediction that Old Grinch will have a target on your back,
and it was all about Santa not flying a motorglider. I could of
understood his dislike if I had said something like motorglider guys
troll for fat chicks. I did place a LGBTQ sticker on a motorglider and
the owner kind of laughed about it and I consider us friends. So, what
is the big deal about motorglider guys complaining about Old Bob The
Purist, why such thin skin, they cannot even handle Santa being a
PURIST! Old Bob, The Purist

This did not appear when using eternal-september.ord as a server, but
did appear elsewhere.

Isn't technology wonderful?

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Well, shucky darn, Tom.  You're right.

And Happy New Year to the rest of the aviation community, and the world,
for that matter.

I flew my Cessna 180K today, did an instrument approach, two stop and
goes, and a full stop.  I flew the gyro a couple of days ago. Tomorrow
is the last day in annual for the Stemme but there's been no wave yet
this season.  I'll get the inspection done in the next week or so. 
Depends upon when the IA is available.

Dan 5J
On 12/30/23 09:55, Tom BravoMike wrote:

On 2023-12-30 09:37, Dan Marotta wrote:

I still see Bob's posts, Tim.  Or maybe it's email.

Hey Bob, post something here.  Trash me as a motor glider pilot. I
can take it without running to a safe space.

Dan 5J
On 12/30/23 04:46, Tim Newport-Peace wrote:

Eternal September filtering is really good. Not only does it filter
out the Spam, but OBTP as well.

You didn't get it, Dan. It was a sample of British sense of humor (or
humour) on part of Tim who is missing Bob's entertaining posts as much
as I am :-)

Happy New Year to All - with many great, long, safe flights!

Tom BravoMike

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On 30/12/2023 16:55, Tom BravoMike wrote:

On 2023-12-30 09:37, Dan Marotta wrote:

I still see Bob's posts, Tim.  Or maybe it's email.

Hey Bob, post something here.  Trash me as a motor glider pilot. I can
take it without running to a safe space.

Dan 5J
On 12/30/23 04:46, Tim Newport-Peace wrote:

Eternal September filtering is really good. Not only does it filter
out the Spam, but OBTP as well.

You didn't get it, Dan. It was a sample of British sense of humor (or
humour) on part of Tim who is missing Bob's entertaining posts as much
as I am :-)

Happy New Year to All - with many great, long, safe flights!

Tom BravoMike

Not quite, at 20:39 GMT OBTP posted:

Tim is having withdrawals from the good side of RAS, it is pretty
evident that the Grinch brothers hate Santa and certainly go out of
their way to complain or maybe they did not complain and it was all
fabricated by John DeGrinch. Speaking of John the last time I saw John
he was in Moriarty trying to land his glider on a 6k foot runway,
overshoot and went skidding off the =
runway and if not mistaken clipped one of the runway lights, so much for
his expertise!
I did tell one of the motorglider guys a while back that I smelled a rat
with the announcement of RAS Prime and they guy responded to me with the prediction that Old Grinch will have a target on your back, and it was
all about Santa not flying a motorglider. I could of understood his
dislike if I had said something like motorglider guys troll for fat
chicks. I did place a LGBTQ sticker on a motorglider and the owner kind
of laughed about it and I consider us friends. So, what is the big deal
about motorglider guys complaining about Old Bob The Purist, why such
thin skin, they cannot even handle Santa being a PURIST! Old Bob, The Purist

This did not appear when using eternal-september.ord as a server, but
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Isn't technology wonderful?

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On 12/30/2023 2:02 PM, Bill Tisdale wrote:

How to find RAS Prime? Or should I not bother.
With the banner at the top of the RAS page about changes in Feb 2024, It will not show me all of the last post and the bottom of the window.
Bill

I think you should bother. For me, only a portion of the banner shows when I'm looking at
the Home page, the one with all the threads listed. When I click on a thread, the banner
disappears, and the full page is available. I"m using Google Chrome - what are you using?
Eric G

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There's a lot of that going around these days... and to the detriment of
us all.

Dan 5J
On 12/31/23 10:20, Tim Newport-Peace wrote:

On 30/12/2023 16:55, Tom BravoMike wrote:

You didn't get it, Dan. It was a sample of British sense of humor (or
humour) on part of Tim who is missing Bob's entertaining posts as
much as I am 🙂

No quite. I infrequently read OBTP's postings as they are likely
express the same sentiments as the previous one, and the one before that.

But when I see him being filtered out, the words of Evelyn Beatrice
Hall (1906) spring to mind.

I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your
Right to Say It

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On 30/12/2023 16:55, Tom BravoMike wrote:

You didn't get it, Dan. It was a sample of British sense of humor (or
humour) on part of Tim who is missing Bob's entertaining posts as much
as I am 🙂

No quite. I infrequently read OBTP's postings as they are likely express
the same sentiments as the previous one, and the one before that.

But when I see him being filtered out, the words of Evelyn Beatrice Hall
(1906) spring to mind.

I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right
to Say It
--

"Postatem obscuri lateris nescitis."

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I mean, we don't all have to leave RAS newsgroup, I suspect once Google
disconnects from usenet the spam will go away. Either way, eternal
September is working well and RAS will remain for those of us who prefer
the old NNTP system.

On 12/31/23 11:14 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:

There's a lot of that going around these days... and to the detriment of
us all.

Dan 5J
On 12/31/23 10:20, Tim Newport-Peace wrote:

On 30/12/2023 16:55, Tom BravoMike wrote:

You didn't get it, Dan. It was a sample of British sense of humor (or
humour) on part of Tim who is missing Bob's entertaining posts as
much as I am 

No quite. I infrequently read OBTP's postings as they are likely
express the same sentiments as the previous one, and the one before that.

But when I see him being filtered out, the words of Evelyn Beatrice
Hall (1906) spring to mind.

I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your
Right to Say It

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I just don't understand all the talk about a deluge of spam on eternal-september.  I've seen precisely two spam messages in the past
month or so.  I'm using Ubuntu Linux as my operating system, Thunderbird
as my email client, and eternal-september as my news reader.  Could it
be something good about that combination or have the spammers just
ghosted me?

Anyway, I have no use for moderators or censorship of any kind and won't
be going to the google group.  If this news group withers and dies, so
be it.  I've got other forms of entertainment.

Dan 5J
On 1/1/24 00:22, GliderWobble wrote:

I mean, we don't all have to leave RAS newsgroup, I suspect once Google disconnects from usenet the spam will go away. Either way, eternal
September is working well and RAS will remain for those of us who prefer
the old NNTP system.
On 12/31/23 11:14 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:

There's a lot of that going around these days... and to the detriment
of us all.

Dan 5J
On 12/31/23 10:20, Tim Newport-Peace wrote:

On 30/12/2023 16:55, Tom BravoMike wrote:

You didn't get it, Dan. It was a sample of British sense of humor
(or humour) on part of Tim who is missing Bob's entertaining posts
as much as I am 

No quite. I infrequently read OBTP's postings as they are likely
express the same sentiments as the previous one, and the one before
that.

But when I see him being filtered out, the words of Evelyn Beatrice
Hall (1906) spring to mind.

I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your
Right to Say It

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On 1/1/2024 8:31 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:

and eternal-september as my news reader. ..

Anyway, I have no use for moderators or censorship of any kind and won't be going to the
google group.

I also use eternal-september, choosing it because it DOES censor rec.aviation.soaring!
It's the _Google_ RAS (not the Prime version), with the spam, that has the least
censorship of RAS. Ironic, eh?

Eric G 8^)

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Who'da thunk it?

I don't see why I don't see posts from OBTP here.  Maybe he quit posting...

Dan 5J
On 1/1/24 11:24, Eric G wrote:

On 1/1/2024 8:31 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:

and eternal-september as my news reader. ..
Anyway, I have no use for moderators or censorship of any kind and
won't be going to the google group.

I also use eternal-september, choosing it because it DOES censor rec.aviation.soaring! It's the _Google_ RAS (not the Prime version),
with the spam, that has the least censorship of RAS. Ironic, eh?

Eric G  8^)

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On 01/01/2024 19:02, Dan Marotta wrote:

Who'da thunk it?

I don't see why I don't see posts from OBTP here.  Maybe he quit posting...

Dan 5J

No. eternal-september.org treats him as spam! He is still posting.

It may be my imagination, but the volume of spam seems to be greatly
reduced lately?

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I wonder why I didn't see it...

Dan 5J
On 1/1/24 13:39, Charlie M. (UH, Pi & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:

On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 2:02:36 PM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:

Who'da thunk it?

I don't see why I don't see posts from OBTP here. Maybe he quit posting... >>
Dan 5J
On 1/1/24 11:24, Eric G wrote:

On 1/1/2024 8:31 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:

and eternal-september as my news reader. ..
Anyway, I have no use for moderators or censorship of any kind and
won't be going to the google group.

I also use eternal-september, choosing it because it DOES censor
rec.aviation.soaring! It's the _Google_ RAS (not the Prime version),
with the spam, that has the least censorship of RAS. Ironic, eh?

Eric G 8^)

OBTP posted in this thread early this morning.

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That's odd.

I've checked my filters and don't have him filtered out.  I've been
rummaging through news.eternal-september.org and haven't found anything
that would indicate why I don't see OBTP's postings.  Any ideas?

Dan 5J
On 1/1/24 13:50, Tim Newport-Peace wrote:

On 01/01/2024 19:02, Dan Marotta wrote:

Who'da thunk it?

I don't see why I don't see posts from OBTP here.  Maybe he quit
posting...

Dan 5J

No. eternal-september.org treats him as spam! He is still posting.

It may be my imagination, but the volume of spam seems to be greatly
reduced lately?

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On 1/4/2024 6:48 PM, Mark628CA wrote:

Mark, you just don't seem to get the big picture, it is not about free speech, it is about controlling content. Kind of reminds me of a school board meeting not allowing parents to voice their opinion of transgender restrooms. Although my situation

was a bit different, DeGrinch just doesn't like Santa. Even a guy from Skyline in Chicago called me and told me that he was a bad guy and very hateful. OBTP

Bob, it is you that doesn't get it. It isn't about the Santa post. It is the sum total of all of your ongoing anti-motorglider rants. They are insulting, childish and irrelevant, but you cannot seem to let it go. The fact is that many RAS readers,

after disagreeing with the theme and asking you to cease your repetitive dialogue, enough people complained when you indicated that you intended to continue on RAS_Prime. For that reason, the moderator, Mr. DeRosa, called and asked you to please not
start the same thing on the RAS_Prime group. Instead, you decided to not post on the forum. You were given the option to limit your posts to relevant topics, but you chose to go your own way and cease participation on RAS_Prime. Fine. Have a nice life.

+1 for Mark's post.
+2 for John DeRosa, who spends a lot of time helping people get things right on their
equipment. Including me.

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